What's happened...

emilyinchile

Wow Kiki, that link is just insane. So much money with so little taste.

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What's happened... : Yeah.  For me it was a combination of so many things.  That site, the whole E vs SB thing that I used to think wasn't real but now I know it is, people that I used to like who I don't like anymore and don't like me anymore, Knot Annie backing other people instead of us and banning regs without even telling me and Squirrly, me telling you guys who created the call-out site and nothing coming of it, SB denying the pretty clear evidence because it was it one of their own, posts that don't interest me enough to respond.  It's all too much.  Some days I open this board, skim the post titles and just close it and do something else instead.  I still love some of you, but it's just not too much fun around here for me anymore.
Posted by danieliza1127[/QUOTE]

Ah.  You said it way better than I did.  It's more than just the callout site, but it was a big part of it, added in with all the rest of this.

kikibaby

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[QUOTE]Imma rock the boat here, but god it would be so fun to have such bad taste, and to do whatever you wanted. There are far too many people in my life, FI included, that would snap me back to reality so fast if I ever even dreamed of the things that lady has accomplished.
Posted by Rosie109[/QUOTE]

There's no doubting that she lives in a fantasy land.

emilyinchile

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[QUOTE]Imma rock the boat here, but god it would be so fun to have such bad taste, and to do whatever you wanted. There are far too many people in my life, FI included, that would snap me back to reality so fast if I ever even dreamed of the things that lady has accomplished.
Posted by Rosie109[/QUOTE]

I know someone like this. Her husband goes along with it all, and if they had the money they really might end up with a house that looked like that girl's, now that I think about it. Girl LOVES pink like woah and seems to think she has impeccable taste. I politely declined her offer to help me design my wedding invitations.

danieliza1127

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[QUOTE]What really gets my goat is that the creator is free to roam about AND she's protected at the same time.  It's beyond ridic.  We were left out to dry and be shunned as the bad guys and it wasn't fair AT.ALL. 
Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]

Yep.

salt78

It's sad that people were left out to dry in the whole thing, but hey...at least we aren't the mentally illl ones.

ohwhynot

Dani and Moose . . . yep.  All of those things factored in.

And . . . I don't have time to keep up, really, with 2 boards: E and SB.  There are posters I like and poster I dislike on both boards.  I don't believe it has ever been accurate to say "Well, E says this" and "SB says that" because, again, each board is made up of individuals.  But with work gearing up again as summer ends, I've just been pulling back on all of TK rather than choosing a side or trying to keep up with both. 

(one example of something that drives me crazy about this whole thing:  the "SB board" didn't ignore evidence that futuremrs = the callout board.  Some people on the SB board ignored the evidence.  There's a big difference between those two statements.)

kikibaby

So, can I pay you guys (in GUM!) to come back? 

salt78

What kind of gum?

danieliza1127

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[QUOTE](one example of something that drives me crazy about this whole thing:  the "SB board" didn't ignore evidence that futuremrs = the callout board.  Some people on the SB board ignored the evidence.  There's a big difference between those two statements.)
Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]

You're totally right OWN.  I'm guilty of doing that.  I should be more careful.  Although in my defense, the one time I named exactly who I meant instead of saying "the SB board", Cew flipped her lid and got all bent out of shape.  Naming names is worse sometimes.

pumpkinpumpkin

For me, part of it was the callouts. I just decided I didn't want to be around during that time for a bunch of people that hate me anyway. Which is good, because with my new position at work, finding time for knotting is difficult.

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What's happened... : I am not sure what your point is.  I agree that posters on both boards contributed to that site.  I don't think either board is more or less guilty than the other.  But both boards (in my opinion) contain quite a few posters I like and a few I dislike.  I wasn't advocating choosing one over the other.  I completely agree that there must be some very vile posters on both boards who contributed to the callouts and that we really have no way of knowing who they are.  That is disturbing. 
Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]


My point is that I pretty much left the knot over the call out siteand what was posted on it.  As well as the reasons Dani posted.  So, when you look at it, swtiching to a board that used to be all the people on E isn't really any different than staying on E. 

Again, one person created the site.  Those two boards contributed a lot of the stuff posted on it.   I'm personally more upset about the crap that was posted on it than I am angry that someone gave it a home.  The call out site going away doesn't change the fact that people on E and SB thought it was a good idea to put pictures to absolutely vile thoughts and make them public.  It also doesn't change the fact that people thought those vile thoughts long enough to actually submit them.

I don't want to be associated with that so I post on neither board.

One is just as guilty as the other and saying, "oh, but I like people over there,"  is kinda lame when it comes right down to it.

I'm pretty sure some of the people over there you liked created vile call outs.  Just as I know some people I liked created vile call outs.  Regardless of which board they post on, they're vile.

emilyinchile

Wrkn, YGPM.

In general, I just try to enjoy what I enjoy and ignore anything else, but maybe I haven't been here long enough or forged strong enough relationships with people to get too upset about the possibility that someone who I like secretly hates me.

salt78

Psssst...Emily....

I secretly hate you. 

ohwhynot

In Response to Re: What's happened...:
[QUOTE One is just as guilty as the other and saying, "oh, but I like people over there,"  is kinda lame when it comes right down to it. I'm pretty sure some of the people over there you liked created vile call outs.  Just as I know some people I liked created vile call outs.  Regardless of which board they post on, they're vile.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

Well, yes, I suppose.  But here we are, having a conversation, and we're not vile.  We didn't contribute any of the callouts and really, most of the people here (and on SB) didn't, either. 

I think I can pretty safely guess who didn't post the vile ones.  I could be wrong.  But in real life, too, I could be wrong about the people I choose to be friendly with, so what am I gonna do?  Not talk to anyone, ever?  Seems to me that's throwing out the baby with the bathwater.  All sorts of people I like could have all sorts of dirty little secrets.  Here or in the real world.

ETA:  I realize, re-reading, that this doesn't make a lot of sense and kind of contradicts what I said about backing away from the boards because of (at least partially) the callout site.  But yeah - my thoughts on the whole matter are still a bit jumbled. 

emilyinchile

Salt, I said people I LIKED. Obviously that would not include you.



(lies. all lies.)

squirrly

All the stuff that Dani said is pretty relevant to me, too.  And, I've had some personal stuff going on lately that's made it tough to have a lot of time to post.  I'm reading, but I just don't have the energy to answer all that often right now.  Hopefully that will improve, but right now it's tough to say.

danieliza1127

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What's happened... : I think I can pretty safely guess who didn't post the vile ones.  I could be wrong.  But in real life, too, I could be wrong about the people I choose to be friendly with, so what am I gonna do?  Not talk to anyone, ever?  Seems to me that's throwing out the baby with the bathwater.  All sorts of people I like could have all sorts of dirty little secrets.  Here or in the real world.
Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]

Another good point.

I bet we would all be surprised one way or another if we ever found out who submitted things to that site.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What's happened... : My point is that I pretty much left the knot over the call out siteand what was posted on it.  As well as the reasons Dani posted.  So, when you look at it, swtiching to a board that used to be all the people on E isn't really any different than staying on E.  Again, one person created the site.  Those two boards contributed a lot of the stuff posted on it.  <strong> I'm personally more upset about the crap that was posted on it than I am angry that someone gave it a home.  The call out site going away doesn't change the fact that people on E and SB thought it was a good idea to put pictures to absolutely vile thoughts and make them public.  It also doesn't change the fact that people thought those vile thoughts long enough to actually submit them.</strong> I don't want to be associated with that so I post on neither board. One is just as guilty as the other and saying, "oh, but I like people over there,"  is kinda lame when it comes right down to it. I'm pretty sure some of the people over there you liked created vile call outs.  Just as I know some people I liked created vile call outs.  Regardless of which board they post on, they're vile.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

I agree. But at the same time, if the board hadn't existed, would those people still be here? Thinking those thoughts? And yet, we would have never know they thought those things? (And yes, I know we don't know WHO thought those things.) I'm not justifying the existance of that awful site (which I'm sure is what the creator does), but I dunno. Ignorance is bliss? If that hadn't happened, I think a lot of people would still be here, living in ignorance of the fact that some people here could be capable of that.

Like Kiki, I choose to believe the site was fueled by a very small minority of posters. And like OWN, I agree that I like who I like here and we just have to trust ourselves to be judges of character as much as you can be on the internet.

squirrly

I think MOST people think vile things about other people from time to time.  They're having a bad day, the other person pissed them off, they think something horrible.

But, the normal people keep their mouth shut.  They know they don't REALLY mean that.  They're venting via the dialogue in their head. 

It takes someone with something tweaked a little strangely to say it.  And the thing is, those people are all smart enough to know better than to "say" it to somebody's face on here.  They said it there, where they can be cowards and hide.  But, they NEVER would have done so without the opportunity.  So, I hate the creator for that much moreso than the people who submitted secrets.  They're all wrong, but the person who published it is the most wrong, in my opinion.

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What's happened... : And that's why I'm not trying to be bestie friends with everyone here. I don't trust most of the people here as far as I could throw them. :)
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]


Pretty much. :)

Bubbalub

I think I was busy with my wedding/mini-moon when the whole call-out site creator reveal happened. I remember reading about it at some point, though, and I was thoroughly disgusted that the creator was not only a mod but seemed to be protected by Knot Annie. Just as disgusted as I was by the site itself.

I like a lot of you; I like to read and I laugh quite a bit. But I try not to put too much of myself out there (here) because I've been around long enough to know what happens if you reveal too much of yourself. It gives that minority of vile people something to latch on to. Sadly, it means I censor a lot of what I want to say or think.

I don't blame anyone for leaving for the various reasons already listed. It's a bit sad because I enjoy reading what many of you post and the random discussions are entertaining. But I totally understand, as well, because things HAVE changed since the call-out site.

vallyhoo

oh hey Bubbalub I didn't know you got married. Did you post pics?

Bubbalub

I got married on the 18th! We only have a couple of pro pics so far, I'm waiting to AW until we get more. :P

laladypoet

I know i'm not here because it's dead. I liked it better when there was a call outs site.

ohwhynot

Bubbalub!  Congratulations - that sig picture is just beautiful; can't wait to see more. 

Bubbalub

Thank you! We had a blast.

vallyhoo

I understand waiting, when you do AW do it up! teehee
Congrats!

FutureMrsTR

Bubbalub - your sig pic is gorgeous so I can't wait to see more

I don't really have anything new to add to the call-out discussion that no one hasn't mentioned.  Wait...that was a lot of negatives, I'm not sure if it means what I meant to say.  And I can't figure out how it should be.  I guess I shouldn't have had a Coke at lunch.  Grammar FAIL.

Just ignore me.

[Deleted User]

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What's happened... : You're totally right OWN.  I'm guilty of doing that.  I should be more careful.  Although in my defense, the one time I named exactly who I meant instead of saying "the SB board", Cew flipped her lid and got all bent out of shape.  Naming names is worse sometimes.
Posted by danieliza1127[/QUOTE]

Oh. You're just mad because I told you to suck my tits. I meant it in the most loving way possible. Promise.