Marriage Poll

katiewhompus

But Daff, it wasn't specifically called Marriage, so the church gets dibs on that word. The rest of us will have to make up a term since no one recorded caveman vocabulary.

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Marriage Poll : I understand what you're saying. I'm not entirely sure I understand my argument. I acknowledge that I am conflicted. As I've tried to explain and am finding that I am failing at articulating, I can't pinpoint my aversion to gay marriage. I just try to acknowledge that I may not agree, but that I will neither support nor oppose gay marriage through voting. I don't feel right voting one way or the other on the issue (if given the chance) and so I choose to abstain. I understand and respect that people will not agree with how I choose to handle the issue.
Posted by brookelynpaisley[/QUOTE]
the way i'm reading you is that you have a gut feeling about gay marriage that doesn't sit well with you. which doesn't sit well with me, but we've covered that and i'm not going to belabor the point.

i see that as separate from your argument that a person shouldn't be forced to change their mind that "marriage is religious in nature" if that's what they think. what i'm arguing is that the existence of legal marriage doesn't actually force anyone to change their minds on that point, since legal marriage exists outside of religion.

lol katie

lil_miss_latinist

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[QUOTE]lil miss - thank you for the compliment. i just vehemently disagree with you. as far as the mesopotamian marriage being about selling a woman, i'd say that many modern-day marriages still include vows where the woman promises to honor and obey their husbands. and then there's that whole domestic discipline marriage thing that was discussed recently. i don't like any of that stuff, but it has no bearing on my marriage, and not all modern-day marriages have an equal relationship between the husband and the wife. otherwise your argument strikes me as a linguistic one. i doubt you'd agree that people who don't speak english shouldn't get married. so i don't see why linguistics even matter here. you say you're biased. you're allowed to be biased. but you're not allowed to insert your biases into law. and obviously here i'm extending "you" to anyone in the u.s. who'd want to do so.
Posted by daffodil_jill[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Again, I'm perfectly aware that most people think I'm stupid, ignorant, and flat-out wrong, and I'm okay with that. My religious beliefs are a big part of me, and I'm so lucky to have the right to base my opinion on them. I'm also quite glad I'm not a law-maker-- I know I would have to keep my biases out, and I can't do that because my biases are such a part of me. </div><div>
</div><div>I know I'm arguing semantics, and in the end I want the same thing as everyone else-- to give everyone the same rights. If I have to sacrifice my word, then so be it. But I'm allowed to voice my opinion, just like you have every right to vehemently disagree.  :)</div><div>
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flyjawn

i would like to point out there is also the option that even if marriage was a term with religious connotations, it no longer gets to claim that because as PP have stated, some of us got "married" with absolutely no religion involved whatsoever.  no one seems to trying to take away my right as an atheist to marry.  

my personal belief is that religions that object to homosexuality and same sex marriage are just flat out WRONG so frankly i don't care what their claim to the terminology is.  the logic is flawed from the start.