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AmoroAgain
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It's that time again!
Hey there US morning! I've been waiting on you!
What's on the plate today?
And, for a bit of a change, what does the American Dream mean to you? Do you think it's more or less obtainable now than it was 10 years ago?
What's on the plate today?
And, for a bit of a change, what does the American Dream mean to you? Do you think it's more or less obtainable now than it was 10 years ago?
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Re: It's that time again!
Amoro - why'd you have to go and get all deep in the early morning!?!?!
To me, the American dream is more of a simple life. It's raising kids in a house with lots of land for them to explore and be a kid. It's stepping out from your safe haven home and meeting neighbors who accept you and watch out for you. It's stepping out further then that and loving your community, free of violence, crime and hatred. To me the American dream is like "If you really knew me" but with everyone. Everyone would care to listen before they judged. I just think things have gotten too complicated - nobody slows down to see what right in front of their face.
Do I think we're closer to obtaining it? Well like I said, my American dream is probably much different then someone elses. I think in my city racism is at an all time high - it has nothing to do with black and white, but has moved on to Somalis and Mexicans. The builders are taking up all the land stretching out of the city and forgetting to keep the inner city in their thoughts for development. Towns are popping up all over and nobody cares to know their neighbor because it's not like they're putting permanent roots down there anyhow. Mom and Pops are replaced by corporations and the people that lose everything are the elderly.
I just think people have forgotten what compassion is and how it can impact a life. So no - I don't think the American dream is close to be obtained by a lot of people - however, I do think my American dream that I have set is very obtainable if I work at it.
For today, more of the same - trying to get ready for the new school year. Even though today we are focused on lesson planning instead of staff meetings and sitting through bunches of boring lectures.
Gosh, this is kinda a hard set of questions. For me the American dream is owning your own home, having very little to no debt and still be able to save for retirement, emergencies and our future children's college funds. It also means raising my kids where everyone is treated the same and you are not judged on your skin tone. But unfortunately I hate to sound pessismistic, but I don't think it is getting any better and won't anytime soon.
I think I am going to have to say today the American dream is more attainable now bc people are making more money on average, but jobs are harder to come by. And the economy is not so great. But for the big picture, I think things are going to get worse if something doesn't change soon.
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I'm trying to onvine H to rent me a chain saw. I need to kill a LOT more (bigger) stuff.
The American dream huh? Well, I voluntarily left, so I guess that answers if I think it's obtainable or not... ;-)
[QUOTE]Morning. I'm trying to onvine H to rent me a chain saw. I need to kill a LOT more (bigger) stuff. The American dream huh? Well, I voluntarily left, so I guess that answers if I think it's obtainable or not... ;-)
Posted by aMrsin09[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but don't lie. You compare everything to how it was in the US. :)
Interesting responses so far. I read an article this morning about it, and it surprised the hell out of me.
I can't think deep until the coffee is done, lol.
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My American Dream is just being able to support myself and family. Not necessarily being rich, but knowing we can cover all the bills and still afford groceries without going negative. Along with this, not having to work crazy hours to make extra money, so H and I can actually sit down to dinner together every night and maybe take a few vacations now and then.
But I don't see this happening any time soon, so no, I don't think it's easier to obtain now than before. For us, anyway, it might be totally different for someone else.
to me the American dream is to have the bills paid, 3-6 months of expenses in the bank and be able to go on vacation without touching the emergency fund.
The ULTIMATE American Dream would be to have all of that on only one salary.
Well, I juuuust started my coffee so this may make no sense, but to me the American Dream is just being free to do whatever it is that you want to do (provided it doesn't hurt anyone else). For me, that would be to own a home and a little land that's ours and no one else's. To have our own small business where we can have our (hypothetical future) dog and toddler walking around and the people who come in know us and we know them. Nothing fancy, but I would like to feel secure that we're taking care of our family and leaving something for future generations.
More or less attainable than 10 years ago? For me, in a way yes, because I'm older, taking the first step (getting married) in mine and in a way no because this economy is making it hard to imagine the small business thing. In general, as far as personal freedoms go, I think we've gained and lost some. We're making progress in the way society thinks, but the government isn't catching on as quick.
Like I said, that may not even make sense, I'm not caffeinated yet.
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And I'm livin' the dream, obvsies.
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The American Dream means to me that (1) I can get PAID and (2) a middle class girl from Kalamazoo, Michigan can become President.
This may make no sense: To me, the American dream is having the freedom to pursue happiness. Happiness is obviously very subjective so it differs for everyone. Be it having a house, being able to climb the career ladder, having an SUV, whatever. As long as no one is keeping you from being able to get those things (i.e., discrimination).
I think it is always attainable but I personally think people are too busy to bitch and moan these days to work for happiness. People have an entitlement issue and feel like everything should just be given to them but part of this is that people are also very materialistic. You don't have to have the new Escalade to be happy but no one seems to be grateful for the small things anymore.
[QUOTE]Damn Amoro, I feel like I'm in school ;) Well, I juuuust started my coffee so this may make no sense, but to me the American Dream is just being free to do whatever it is that you want to do (provided it doesn't hurt anyone else). For me, that would be to own a home and a little land that's ours and no one else's. To have our own small business where we can have our (hypothetical future) dog and toddler walking around and the people who come in know us and we know them. Nothing fancy, but I would like to feel secure that we're taking care of our family and leaving something for future generations. More or less attainable than 10 years ago? <strong>For me, in a way yes, because I'm older, taking the first step (getting married) in mine and in a way no because this economy is making it hard to imagine the small business thing. In general, as far as personal freedoms go, I think we've gained and lost some. We're making progress in the way society thinks, but the government isn't catching on as quick. Like I said, that may not even make sense, I'm not caffeinated yet.</strong>
Posted by FutureMrsTR[/QUOTE]
I meant, is it easier or harder for people who were in our same age group/etc ten years ago. Though perhaps it would be better to say 20 years ago.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: It's that time again! : I meant, is it easier or harder for people who were in our same age group/etc ten years ago. Though perhaps it would be better to say 20 years ago.
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]
Yep, yep, that's obvious to me now, haha. Lack of caffeine. Um, yes I think it is. More and more lifestyles are being accepted and I think it's getting easier to be whatever or whoever you want to be in society without being shunned. Not saying it's perfect, it's just easier.
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The only thing I know about American Dreams is that it was a crappy TV show from a few years ago.
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[QUOTE] ETA: I picture the 'American Dream' as life in the 50's for some reason. Families eat dinner together, go on vacations, your neighborhoods are safe, everyone is friendly to each other, etc.
Posted by lovethebeach16[/QUOTE]
this. and I'm sad because I think its becoming harder and harder to obtain.
Wow, you guys have put a lot of thought into what the American Dream means. I've really never thought about it. I just figured the basics, the American Dream is to have jobs and a family and a house and live a nice life, a better life than your parents had maybe. I've never really thought about it beyond that.
For me, the "American dream" is pretty much what PP listed above...having a (permanent) home to call my own (doesn't have to be a house, although I'd prefer it), a steady job, and enough money in the bank to live comfortably. Oh, and the ability to retire when I'm able to enjoy it.
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[QUOTE]A&H - throw your head forward and then shake it to the side the water is at. Gets it out almost every time
Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
Well the pickle is that it's in both ears. I've tried that, the kicking the opposite leg thing, hairdyer. I've had this happen every time I go into a pool lately and it leaves at some point the next day but it sure does suck in the meantime.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: It's that time again! : Well the pickle is that it's in both ears. I've tried that, the kicking the opposite leg thing, hairdyer. I've had this happen every time I go into a pool lately and it leaves at some point the next day but it sure does suck in the meantime.
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
Ew. Well you can do it for both sides. Also, if it does it a lot you should put a cap full of rubbing alcohol in your ears after you get out of the water to help dry it out.
I don't have the energy to think about the American Dream this early in the morning, but if you ask my IL's, we've been living since we got our first wedding gift and got our house. /sarcasm