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telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding

I am sure this sounds horrible from the Subject line, but it had to be done.  One of my fiance's best friends was asked to be a groomsman in our wedding.  I get along with him, but his wife on the other hand, well let's just say we are not best friends... not even close.  We have had our differences, and I tried to extend an olive branch back in January to smooth things over, but she pretty much threw it back in my face.  this past weekend, my fiance and i attended a wedding where this groomsman and his wife were also guests.  lucky for me, we all were seated at the same table.  at one point during the night, my fiance approach the wife and said he wanted things to be fine between us and she said it was not going to happen.  at that point in time, even though i do not like this woman and she clearly does not like me, i was going to still invite her to the wedding because her husband was in our wedding party.  as the night went on, the tension between this woman and myself grew and grew, even though we did not exchange words.  at the end of the evening, my fiance and I left the wedding a little early and as we were leaving this woman yelled the C-Word at me.  I cannot make this up.  my fiance even heard it.  at that point my fiance and i decided that we could not invite her to our wedding.  if she is going to yell such an offensive word to me at her own friend's wedding, what would she do to me at mine?  my fiance called his friend the next day and told him that his wife would not be invited, and as a result his friend said he could not be in the wedding.  the whole thing is a mess, but I felt that there was no way we could now invite this woman.  guests are supposed to be happy for the bride and groom on the day of their wedding, and not wish either of them ill will.  would other brides have done the same thing?  blah...  Undecided
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Re: telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding

  • I'm curious about the backstory on this.  I mean, it sounds like it's not just a case of not hitting it off with this woman.  Do share why there is so much animosity here.

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  • Yeah, who goes around yelling c#nt at people?  Tell us more OP, but remember to use paragraphs.


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  • You can't not invite her.  She's his wife, so they're considered a social unit.

    I know you don't like her, but take the high road and invite her.  If the two of you really don't get along, she'll likely decline the invitation.  Even if she's there, you'll probably be off on a cloud of newly-wedded bliss and not notice her.
  • WTF happened between you two? The C-Word yelling is enough for me to not invite her, but unfortunately my life lacks the entertainment yours apparently does, so I can't begin to imagine not getting along with someone this much! Sounds like even if she was invited she wouldn't come, so don't waste the invite, but seriously, I want to know more about the not getting along!!
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_telling-groomsman-his-wife-not-invited-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:d3c4ed31-7b33-4350-b5f5-e31e428a9188Post:4b009a27-348f-4546-a725-f19f1ff69371">telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding</a>:
    [QUOTE]  guests are supposed to be happy for the bride and groom on the day of their wedding, and not wish either of them ill will.  would other brides have done the same thing?  blah... 
    Posted by aral2003[/QUOTE]

    There's no way to agree or even answer your question without knowing the backstory here and what has caused such ill will between you two.
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  • If I were her husband, I'd have backed out too.

    You all sound classy. Bless your hearts.

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    [QUOTE]I am sure this sounds horrible from the Subject line, but it had to be done.  One of my fiance's best friends was asked to be a groomsman in our wedding.  I get along with him, but his wife on the other hand, well let's just say we are not best friends... not even close.  We have had our differences, and I tried to extend an olive branch back in January to smooth things over, but she pretty much threw it back in my face.  this past weekend, my fiance and i attended a wedding where this groomsman and his wife were also guests.  lucky for me, we all were seated at the same table.  at one point during the night, my fiance approach the wife and said he wanted things to be fine between us and she said it was not going to happen.  at that point in time, even though i do not like this woman and she clearly does not like me, i was going to still invite her to the wedding because her husband was in our wedding party.  as the night went on, the tension between this woman and myself grew and grew, even though we did not exchange words.  at the end of the evening, my fiance and I left the wedding a little early and as we were leaving this woman yelled the C-Word at me.  I cannot make this up.  my fiance even heard it.  at that point my fiance and i decided that we could not invite her to our wedding.  if she is going to yell such an offensive word to me at her own friend's wedding, what would she do to me at mine?  <strong>my fiance called his friend the next day and told him that his wife would not be invited, and as a result his friend said he could not be in the wedding.</strong>  the whole thing is a mess, but I felt that there was no way we could now invite this woman.  guests are supposed to be happy for the bride and groom on the day of their wedding, and not wish either of them ill will.  would other brides have done the same thing?  blah... 
    Posted by aral2003[/QUOTE]

    I'm curious about the backstory too.

    I would not have done the same thing, but I'm not in your position. My instinct is that if she hates you so much, she'd simply decline the invitation anyway. But I'm baffled by how your FI remained close with this friend while his wife is so hateful to you.
  • Also, the advice usually given here includes the suggestion that if someone were invited to a wedding without their SO, they would not attend.

    Looks like that's the choice your good friend made.

    I guess he didn't choose you, huh?

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    [QUOTE]You can't not invite her.  She's his wife, so they're considered a social unit. I know you don't like her, but take the high road and invite her.  If the two of you really don't get along, she'll likely decline the invitation.  Even if she's there, you'll probably be off on a cloud of newly-wedded bliss and not notice her.
    Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]

    <div>I disagree, don't even give her that satisfaction.</div>
  • Stackeye210Stackeye210 member
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    Tension doesn't grow without verbal exchanges unless there's more to the story.  I'm not sure how a person could accept being a GM when his wife obviously hates you.  It also sounds like you guys tried to smooth things over with her, meaning you were the start of the problem to begin with.  Just going out on a limb because you sound like you're trying hard to be innocent.  I picture someone saying, 'what? who me?'
  • well first off, i'm sorry that this woman is such a witch to you but you had to anticipate the groomsman dropping out when you told him that his wife couldn't come to your wedding.  Did you FI ask why his GM wife called you the Cword? (not that there's any good excuse or reason for that but I'm just wondering).

    if your FI is willing to lose his GM over this then I say stick by what you've already done, but if he wants to try and keep this friendship then you're going to have to suck it up some way. 

    Its going to be one way or the other b/c there's no way your FI can keep this friendship and not have them in the wedding
  • I can understand why you don't want her at your wedding - but if you're prepared to exclude her, you can probably count on her husband not being there either.
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  • I think you need to accept your friend's choice to not be involved in the wedding. He won't attend without his wife, and you don't want her there. I think it would cause you far less stress to just let him bow out.
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  • OP did you sleep with this woman's husband? Because that's the story I'm going with if you don't come back.
  • wow so many responses.  the background story is pretty basic.  this woman's sister told a friend of mine that a guy she was seeing was only using her for sex.  i got pretty upset and told her sister how inappropriate that was and we got into a bit of a yelling match.  the uninvited wife then called me (we used to be friends) and got mad that i snapped at her sister.  and ever since then she has hated me.  oh, and she used to be attracted to me fiance... maybe that has something to do with it too.  but that is it... really!!!
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  • AATB, the husband already backed out. Keep up!!


    I'm with Stacks. It's probably all your fault, OP.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_telling-groomsman-his-wife-not-invited-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:d3c4ed31-7b33-4350-b5f5-e31e428a9188Post:11746314-1576-4535-be0a-fefa9ad3ec58">Re: telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding : I disagree, don't even give her that satisfaction.
    Posted by scurtis07[/QUOTE]


    What satisfaction?

    I, personally, don't like attending the weddings of people I don't like.  I get no "satisfaction," from that.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
  • how old is this woman?
  • If somebody yelled the c-word at me, I wouldn't have to worry about them attending the wedding unless it was going to be held in the hospital they would shortly be at.  But I'm just klassy like that.
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  • Sounds like you were putting your nose where it didn't belong in the first place, OP. And you really pulled the "she's attracted to my FI" card? Cute.
  • So she got mad that you stuck your nose in business that wasn't even yours?  Well then you're both wrong, and sound like 19 year olds fighting. 

    I'd let both of them go at this point and just be down a GM.  I agree that I wouldn't want someone who called me a c*nt sitting in a church faking being happy for me.
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    [QUOTE]how old is this woman?
    Posted by Lapontoona6[/QUOTE]


    ditto and how old are you?
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_telling-groomsman-his-wife-not-invited-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:d3c4ed31-7b33-4350-b5f5-e31e428a9188Post:98d60f03-0668-4cec-bd22-5fbdd91edea5">Re: telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding</a>:
    [QUOTE]OP did you sleep with this woman's husband? Because that's the story I'm going with if you don't come back.
    Posted by jnic0319[/QUOTE]


    I like you.  You tell my kind of stories.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_telling-groomsman-his-wife-not-invited-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:d3c4ed31-7b33-4350-b5f5-e31e428a9188Post:890fdb16-fa43-4e57-9d5b-400811964153">Re: telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding</a>:
    [QUOTE]wow so many responses.  the background story is <strong>pretty basic</strong>.  this woman's sister told a friend of mine that a guy she was seeing was only using her for sex.  i got pretty upset and told her sister how inappropriate that was and we got into a bit of a yelling match.  the uninvited wife then called me (we used to be friends) and got mad that i snapped at her sister.  and ever since then she has hated me.  oh, and she used to be attracted to me fiance... maybe that has something to do with it too.  but that is it... really!!!
    Posted by aral2003[/QUOTE]
    This is not basic. This is an episode of Maury. Were there DNA tests involved?
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    [QUOTE]wow so many responses.  the background story is pretty basic.  this woman's sister told a friend of mine that a guy she was seeing was only using her for sex.  i got pretty upset and told her sister how inappropriate that was and we got into a bit of a yelling match.  the uninvited wife then called me (we used to be friends) and got mad that i snapped at her sister.  and ever since then she has hated me.  oh, and she used to be attracted to me fiance... maybe that has something to do with it too.  but that is it... really!!!
    Posted by aral2003[/QUOTE]


    That's even more confusing than your first post.  Who was using who for sex and why is that bad?  And why did you feel the need to tell anyone that something was inappropriate?

    but really, the only logical answer here is she's pissed you're marrying him and she's stuck with your friend.    Obviously.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding : This is not basic. This is an episode of Maury. Were there DNA tests involved?
    Posted by laurenclaire1386[/QUOTE]

    No DNA tests - but she did get a bag of chips for that s*x
  • yeah, i did pull the "she used to be atracted to my fiance" card because it is true.  this woman is 30 and a new mother.  i am 29.  other girls that run in this same circle have told me she is notorious for being a troublemaker.   oh, and when my fiance told her husband about her yelling the C-word, he said she claimed to have never said that... even though we both heard it. 

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  • Sounds like to me OP is taking the high road, though I feel she has yada yada yada'd over the best parts...but I wouldn't give in to that behavior, the other woman is being straight forward with her anger, and sounds like OP is ignoring/trying to smooth over, if it hasn't worked thus far, don't reward that girl with continuing to pretend it will all be okay with an invite. I think the satisfaction would be chickening out yet again and acting nice to this girl/acknowledging her.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_telling-groomsman-his-wife-not-invited-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:d3c4ed31-7b33-4350-b5f5-e31e428a9188Post:edb92830-f2f7-45ab-8153-9cb494e2f9ff">Re: telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: telling a groomsman his wife is not invited to the wedding : This is not basic. This is an episode of Maury. Were there DNA tests involved?
    Posted by laurenclaire1386[/QUOTE]


    You whore!  He's my baby daddy!  MINE!

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
  • So the GM chose his wife, the person he swore to love forever, over a friend who dislikes the wife so much that he decided to throw etiquette and manners out the window.

    That sounds like the appropriate choice to me. Good for him.
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