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TurtlesAllTheWayDown

Are we doing this today? Please tell me is IS, in fact, Friday. If not, I might kill myself.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-35?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:db7d3cab-8d77-4536-a41c-0b0f293d23b8Post:aba26bc1-1884-46e6-b58a-8ff9f212dc10">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]I also flame the posters in the thread about the girl who doesn't own a little black dress who said that she shouldn't have to buy one and that it was ridiculous for the hostess to ask her to wear one.  <strong>I'm sorry, but if you don't own a LBD as an adult woman then you need to just go buy one.  It's a frickin' wardrobe essential.</strong>
Posted by Femlin[/QUOTE]

I really don't agree with that. I can certainly picture people who don't need an LBD, as long as you have other cocktail dresses. I'm pretty sure my mom doesn't have one and she's made it almost 56 years without being a complete social outcast. She just doesn't like to wear black.

As long as you have some versatile pieces (casual pants, dressy pants, t-shirt, blouses, skirts, dresses) and underwear, I wouldn't call any specific wardrobe item an "essential." It depends on the person.

However, I would ASSUME most people would own a black dress, a pair of jeans, etc. More so than, say, red pumps or a hot pink skirt. Similar to how certain jobs or volunteer positions ask people to wear black or khaki pants and white blouses - something most people own.

Femlin

My opinion stays the same, as I'm sure yours does on the LBD thread.

But why agree to pay for a hotel and male entertainer and then complain about potentially having to buy an item that can be bought for way cheap? Or borrowed even?

Nebb

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : My guess would be the sig pic. She seems sweet but that pic grates on my damn nerves.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]
Agreed 100%

shellydiane820

I flame that newb AliandDan for giving awful advice not once, but twice.  She isn't the first one to do so either.  There was another one a few weeks ago that I felt the need to call out.  I can't remember who though.

Its just weird, the advice that is given just seems like bad advice.  How can taking out a loan (from a bank, bc apparently she thought I didn't realize that's what a loan was) be a good idea.  Its just nonsense.

shannonalise

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[QUOTE]Sorry for the novel. I think I'm just sensitive to this because I went to a Catholic school with a strict dress code, so my normal school attire was worlds away from what most people probbaly wore to high school. I usually only own 1 or 2 pairs of jeans at a time, to this day. I met a girl once with 30+ pairs of jeans and I was dumbfounded.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

Same here. I went to Catholic school for 9 and a half years and I have never felt like I've had a normal wardrobe since, even though that was almost 14 years ago. I usually only shop for clothes when I need something (khaki pants, for example, I do not own) and maybe once a year after that. I usually only own one or two dresses at a time, one or two pairs of jeans, and then a wardrobe for work, which doesn't always transfer to other occassions.

So I'm right there with you. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />

tidetravel

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I really don't agree with that. I can certainly picture people who don't need an LBD, as long as you have other cocktail dresses. I'm pretty sure my mom doesn't have one and she's made it almost 56 years without being a complete social outcast. She just doesn't like to wear black. As long as you have some versatile pieces (casual pants, dressy pants, t-shirt, blouses, skirts, dresses)<strong> and</strong> <strong>underwear, I wouldn't call any specific wardrobe item an "essential." </strong>It depends on the person. However, I would ASSUME mose people would own a black dress, a pair of jeans, etc. More so than, say, red pumps or a hot pink skirt. Similar to how certain jobs or volunteer positions ask people to wear black or khaki pants and white blouses - something most people own.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

Well, crap.  Guess I'm not going partying.<img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" title="Tongue out" />

shellydiane820

I don't mind hensley but her signature freaks me out.  I hate character drawings.

MISSCOURTNEY20

I flame the thug bride on my thread who said that professional prom pics probably won't cost more that $20!! WTH!!!??

I also flame the knottie who said that the bride should pay for the BM's shoes and jewelry.

Femlin

Oh, Shelly reminded me of the girl who suggested a bride take out a loan for her wedding. I flame that poster, too.

danieliza1127

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Well, crap.  Guess I'm not going partying.
Posted by tidetravel[/QUOTE]

Are you the KPS who doesn't see the point in wearing underwear?  ;)

tidetravel

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[QUOTE]I flame the thug bride on my thread who said that professional prom pics probably won't cost more that $20!! WTH!!!?? <strong>I also flame the knottie who said that the bride should pay for the BM's shoes and jewelry</strong>.
Posted by MISSCOURTNEY20[/QUOTE]

If the bride is requiring specific shoes and jewelry, then she should pay.

shellydiane820

I flame MissCourtney and all her punctuation.

sarabellam

Misscourtney, if the bride is requiring particular shoes and/or jewelry, she needs to pony up the funds. Period. Just like if she is requiring an updo or professional makeup.

tidetravel

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Are you the KPS who doesn't see the point in wearing underwear?  ;)
Posted by danieliza1127[/QUOTE]

Hmm.  Missed that one.

KatyRoseM

I flame everyone who flips out when a bride doesn't like what her mother is wearing to the wedding but thinks its okay to tell people what to wear to a B-party.  Are they not also grown ups?  Why do you get to dictate that?  

Its not about the fact that not everyone has a LBD, its about them being adults and her not being allowed to tell them what to wear.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Are you the KPS who doesn't see the point in wearing underwear?  ;)
Posted by danieliza1127[/QUOTE]

Is that what Tide meant?! I was assuming she meant she doesn't have cocktail dresses. Or work pieces, since I guess she has a work uniform.

Shannon, in my school we didn't have uniforms, but we had to wear skirts or dresses. So to this day I like wearing them and wear skirts to work at least 3 times a week even though I work in a casual office (basically anything goes except shorts and flip flops). I've never understood people who REFUSE to wear skirts. I had a friend who worked the prime time Emmys one year (her boss produced them) and she found dressy black pants to wear because she couldn't fathom wearing anything else.

Celles

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[QUOTE]I flame people in the bestiality thread for not grasping that people weren't necessarily shocked by the fantasy (though I think it is gross), but by this girl's desire to act on it.  Seriously considering having sex with a dog is way different than just something you fantasize about.
Posted by Moneypenny424[/QUOTE]

Oh, I grasp that just fine.  I was just surprised that people are still shocked by sexual deviance in the Internet age.  As Calumet and others pointed out, there are entire communities of people online who DO act on this particular fantasy.  No one condones it, but many of us are at least peripherally aware that it exists.  If it's news to you, then it's okay to be shocked.  But it's also okay to be shocked that people are shocked, because -- hey, that's news too!  ;)

That said, I can totally understand being shocked and appalled that a close friend is into this kind of thing.  Even if you know that bestiality exists, it's easier to -- not <em>accept</em>, because that isn't the right word at all, but kind of "come to terms with the existence of..."? -- when it's anonymous strangers on teh Internets and not your long-term BFF.

Also: I flame Calypso for admitting that she steals from bathroom baskets. 

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-35?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:db7d3cab-8d77-4536-a41c-0b0f293d23b8Post:d1a3fac8-cac7-41dc-9b7e-fc258b543ef3">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]I flame the thug bride on my thread who said that professional prom pics probably won't cost more that $20!! WTH!!!?? I also flame the knottie who said that the bride should pay for the BM's shoes and jewelry.
Posted by MISSCOURTNEY20[/QUOTE]

I mini-flame people who make their BMs wear the same shoes. And to a lesser extent jewelry. But I'm not a jewelry person and really couldn't give a crap about that.

jasmineh7777

Calypso steals from bathroom baskets? I'm telling my priest!
Actually, I think that makes me like her better.

tidetravel

That is what I meant, Mery.  But I was joking.  Totally joking. 

Femlin

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[QUOTE]I flame everyone who flips out when a <strong>bride doesn't like what her mother is wearing to the wedding but thinks its okay to tell people what to wear to a B-party. </strong> Are they not also grown ups?  Why do you get to dictate that?   Its not about the fact that not everyone has a LBD, its about them being adults and her not being allowed to tell them what to wear.
Posted by KatyRoseM[/QUOTE]

Actually, now that you make this comparison, I can see why people would be upset over the idea of a dress code, whether or not she already owns a LBD...  but it's a common thing in my area and I would still do it to humor her for the B-Party. But I do get the general outrage now over the dress code.

Calypso1977

well, is it stealing if they are there for the taking?   :-)

jasmineh7777

Yes Calypso, it's stealing. Embrace your inner rebel!

emilyinchile

I also feel like my wardrobe is still way smaller than other people's due to having a uniform for 7 years in middle/high school. I just never caught up to the sheer amount of stuff that everyone else has.

I also now flame a whole bunch of people in the ouija board thread who believe not only in ghosts but that something that is basically a board game has magical powers to talk to said ghosts. I just don't see how normal, smart people believe in things like that (although apparently they do?).

MISSCOURTNEY20

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : If the bride is requiring specific shoes and jewelry, then she should pay.
Posted by tidetravel[/QUOTE

So, if I don't care what shoes they wear, I don't have to pay for them? This is really boggling my mind. I'm not paying for the dresses and we picked those together. I'm not really picking their shoes either. I'm just asking for a certain color.

arbolita

One of the smartest people I know makes a living as a ghost hunter.  Intelligence has nothing to do with belief in the paranormal.

andyandhillary

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[QUOTE]I also now flame a whole bunch of people in the ouija board thread who believe not only in ghosts but that something that is basically a board game has magical powers to talk to said ghosts. I just don't see how normal, smart people believe in things like that (although apparently they do?).
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]

I really hope nothing horrible happens to your or your loved ones that isn't able to be proven by science.  Maybe people, like myself, believe in it for a reason.

JessAndTrav

One word: Kikipania.

When she posts, I feel like I'm in high school all over again watching someone trying to prove just how "hardcore" they are.

georgia_bride09

[QUOTE]I've never understood people who REFUSE to wear skirts. I had a friend who worked the prime time Emmys one year (her boss produced them) and she found dressy black pants to wear because she couldn't fathom wearing anything else.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

I don't like to wear skirts because my thighs chafe. I get around it by wearing biker shorts, basically, but I prefer pants because of that.

eastunder1

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[QUOTE]I flame the people in the personalized hanger thread yesterday who said things along the line of, "I hope that's not the ONLY gift you're getting your bridesmaids" and other things that implied that they wouldn't be pleased to get JUST that or something along those lines. Seriously? I hope that's not how you really react when given a gift. Just like the couple isn't ENTITLED to wedding gifts, the wedding party gifts are just that - GIFTS. It's not payment.
Posted by temerityjane[/QUOTE]

I would be completely irritated if that was the only "gift" I received from a bride.  BECAUSE ITS NOT A GIFT.  It's a photo prop for getting ready pictures.  Thats no different then trying to pass off the wedding jewelry as a gift to me.  If you want to get me a gift, that's great and I will be appreciative.  But if you're going to give me something YOU (you being bride) want and try to act like it's for me as a token of your thanks, I'd prefer you just didn't bother.   Just have them there and call it what it is. 

Also - Is the knot running at a turtle crawl for anyone else?