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**silent scream**

As God is my witness, I will decline any and all future invitations to be in someone's wedding.  This gem landed in my inbox today:


"If you need a hard copy of this let me know and I'll print you one! _______ & ________’s Wedding Bridal PartyWomen’s FAQ and Schedule The Basics! What You are paying for:  Dressing Yourself, including Jewelry (other than said Bridal Party gift), alterations, $30 towards the Party Bus, Nails (Mani/Pedi if so desired, *is NOT required!*), and any drinks (including BYOB on the party bus, other than the champagne toast they provide) you consume.  In addition, you will be paying for your participation in the Bridal Shower & Bachelorette Party. What I am Paying for that is related to your partcipation:  Everything else!! Including but not limited to, florist services, hair service (thanks to __________), and aforementioned gift of jewelry. Wedding Week begins on Monday June 27th!!! I will be receiving the keys to the hall on that day, and we will begin arranging and decorating ASAP. I am taking the entire week off after Sunday night (except Tues Night for ___________), to stay focused and organized. Wedding Rehearsal will be on Friday, July 1st at 4:00pm, with BBQ to follow!  Your significant others and/or children are welcome to come, as they are also to the wedding. (Don’t forget to specify that on your RSVP Card! I need to keep a solid headcount!) Projects: Things I would love help with preparing in advance:Centerpieces (25 of them: sand, shells, sea glass & candle)24 into 12 Table runners (sew 2 into 1 long runner per dbl table)Big bows (to be attached @ every other chair down the aisle)  General Schedule for Wedding Week: Monday through Thursday (10am-ish – 8pm-ish): I thought I’d give a rough range of time in which I’ll need to accomplish things. Those times on different days will be specified as we get closer, and we have a better idea of our needs. We’ll need to transport all decorations & miscellaneous equipment to the Hall on those days.  Then arrange and set up. This includes table dressings and pre-assembled décor (mentioned on first page). *I encourage anyone investing in Mani/Pedies Waxings, etc. to get them done on Thursday, as Friday will be busy with chair set-up and decorating at _________ house, followed by the rehearsal and BBQ!* REHEARSAL DAY: Depending on the time the chairs arrive (I should know this earlier on in the week), we will need to set up 170ish of them, and decorate the aisle and the trellis by 3:30pm, so we’re ready for Rehearsal at 4pm. WEDDING DAY: I want us all to meet at the ________________ for 8:30amDo your showering in advance and just bring all your gowns, jewelry, make up, & optional *ahem* “beverages” ;) (etc.)And please, for the love of all things Matrimonial, be on time! Clean/clear out your cars at least the day before, as we will be carpooling in 2-3 cars back to ____________ house.  Whoever volunteers to leave their car at ______________ house will just have to arrange in advance for a ride back up to _________ with someone, which shouldn't be a big deal as many people will be heading back up that way.  Girls (including flower girls) are gathering at ___________________.Boys (including ring bearer) are at ______________. I’m putting the guys in charge of setting up the PA and band equipment that day so we won’t need to worry about that. I will know better, as we get closer, when things like the flowers and cake will be delivered. HAIR!  I need your decision as to whether or not you want your hair done by _________ that day. If you feel you can do your own hair the way you like it, that’s fine with me. I would like to give __________ a head count, so she knows whether she needs an assistant or not. Early Photo Session: I would like to be ready for photos for 1pm, so we can save some time later, and take “Girls” photos before the ceremony, in and around the garden (This idea was strongly advised to me by __________).  Then head back inside for a quick toast before the ceremony. O.o There will be baked goods, juice, coffee, etc., in case we get hungry. After Party Clean Up! After the reception, we are responsible for the clean up of the place.  I need all hands on deck, as we have the place till midnight, then keys go back in the morning. So, as not to lay it all on _________ the next day, and to get out of there as quickly as possible (_______ and I have a very early flight), we’ll all work together to do what we need to do as efficiently as possible. PS. Being “too drunk” is NOT an excuse to not help. I’ve gotten that one before. Just keep it in mind, as you go through the evening: Water is your friend."  I just want to run as far away as possible from this wedding.  :(

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Re: **silent scream**

  • I would be backing out as a BM.
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    [QUOTE]I would be backing out as a BM.
    Posted by dnbeach12[/QUOTE]

    <div>I would really like to :(  </div>
  • That is absolutely insane.  I hope you're really good at setting up chairs :/
  • You just made all that up, right?? Please tell me you made it up! Is it too late to drop out? A few words come to mind....ungrateful, entitled, and a few others I can't post here. 

    Sorry....so sorry...
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: **silent scream** : I would really like to :(  
    Posted by katieisawesome[/QUOTE]

    <div>Then do it.  </div>
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    [QUOTE]That is absolutely insane.  I hope you're really good at setting up chairs :/
    Posted by vicki0508[/QUOTE]

    <div>I really don't want any part of it anymore.  I am so disappointed in her for all of this.  </div>
  • I agree with PPs. I would definitely be stepping down as a bridesmaid.
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  • OMG! That sounds almost like my sister when I was her BM! Fortunately, I lived out of state, and "conveniently" could not be available until 2 days before her wedding and was "conveniently" not available after the reception since I was driving other family members back to the hotel :)  Good luck!

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    [QUOTE]You just made all that up, right?? Please tell me you made it up! Is it too late to drop out? A few words come to mind....ungrateful, entitled, and a few others I can't post here.  Sorry....so sorry...
    Posted by Brandiewine11[/QUOTE]

    <div>I really wish I had made it up.  Other than taking out the names and locations, this is exactly what she sent.  I am sitting here right now wondering what I could trade $220 worth of dresses for at DB...</div><div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: **silent scream** : Then do it.  
    Posted by dnbeach12[/QUOTE]

    <div>My only reason for not backing out already is that I am 75% sure it will end the friendship and we have been friends for over a decade.</div>
  • End the friendship. Get out. I wouldn't be friends with a person like that.
    If you are still in it, I would be "too drunk" to help clean help. Wink
  • em01092em01092 member
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    Holy moly. That is NUTS. She is micromanaging to the extreme. Demanding money for the party bus, shower, and bachelorette? wow. But hey, at least the mani/pedi is optional right? *barfs.*

    I mean, I plan on giving my BMs a ONE PAGE, brief sheet that says:

    Dress-David's Bridal Rose Petal, your choice of style and fabric. 
    Hotel rooms-Group rate has been locked in for $52/night if you would like a room (all BMs are OOT but FMIL offered her home-I doubt they will stay there though).
    Hair/make up: Do your own, or we'll help each other out. Have done professionally only if you wish. 
    Shoes: Silver sandals, pumps, or flats of your choice. 

    That's all, because I thought it'd be courteous to let the ladies know I am not picking one dress or specific shoes or any other "requirements". I also thought they might like to know the cost of the awesome hotel deal we scored. I was definitely not planning on making a schedule and demanding their help with set up and take down! Man! 
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  • mkruparmkrupar member
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    Re: Untitled Email
    From: katieisawesome
    To: BSC Bride

    I regret to inform you that I will no longer be able to be a part of your wedding party on account of you going off the deep end.

    (You can copy and past that if you'd like)
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  • If you stay in your a better person than me as I would backout. Shocking just shocking.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: **silent scream** : My only reason for not backing out already is that I am 75% sure it will end the friendship and we have been friends for over a decade.
    Posted by katieisawesome[/QUOTE]

    <div>Well I don't think I would want to be friends with someone who considered me to be slave labor anyways.</div><div>
    </div><div>Just tell her after reading her letter you realized that you don't have nearly enough time to commit to the wedding, and you feel it's only fair that you step down.</div>
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    [QUOTE]Re: Untitled Email From: katieisawesome To: BSC Bride I regret to inform you that I will no longer be able to be a part of your wedding party on account of you going off the deep end. (You can copy and past that if you'd like)
    Posted by mkrupar[/QUOTE]

    <div>Thanks :)  I may actually back out now because I am just exhausted by even listening to it much less actually doing it.  She has lost it, if she ever had it, which I am now starting to doubt.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: **silent scream** : Thanks :)  I may actually back out now because I am just exhausted by even listening to it much less actually doing it.  She has lost it, if she ever had it, which I am now starting to doubt.
    Posted by katieisawesome[/QUOTE]

    Well Good Luck too you and if you do step down you will get your long weekend back!
  • I say drop out and suggest she hire a wedding planner. It is totally rude, obnoxious, and insane to TELL your friends what they are going to do as if no one has a life/job/etc. It's one thing to ask for help, but to demand it? No way. I would not want to be friends with someone like that. Either (A) explain to her all that is wrong and that her wedding is not everyone else's top priority (and that you don't plan to take a week off work to help) or (B) just provide a plausible excuse (as in, "I'm sorry but I plan to be too drunk to help") and drop out. 


  • em01092em01092 member
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    Just tell her you charge $30/hour for set up and take down. 

    In all seriousness, should you want to still be a part, talk to her and tell her you did not realize she had so many demands. Tell her while you are glad to lend a hand, which is what friends are for, you feel like maybe she should hire some crews to do this and a coordinator to see that it gets done. Tell her you are worried about being able to get yourself ready and not be overly stressed that day with all these demands. Hopefully once she sees how she is making you feel pressured, she will back off.

    Best of luck.
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  • omg. My DH read it over my shoulder and his first response was that he would be dropping out! But I kinda 'get it' when you say you would be ending the friendship. I don't think my MOH is going to go to that length when she is a bride but it will be her show for sure.

    I would be bringing a lot of money to drink (since apparently it is a cash bar other than the one toast you get?) and I would be getting really really really drunk to show her that yes, there is such a thing as too drunk to clean up (in fact, that would of been my SIL the night of my wedding, however, she wasn't expected to clean up so it really wasn't a big deal).
  • Am I the only one who doesn't think it's all that bad? Yeah some of it is lame, (jewelry, party bus?) but a lot of it just sounds like she wants to be organized and have everyone on the same page. 
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    [QUOTE]<strong>Am I the only one who doesn't think it's all that bad?</strong> Yeah some of it is lame, (jewelry, party bus?) but a lot of it just sounds like she wants to be organized and have everyone on the same page. 
    Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]

    <div>Um, yes.,</div>
  • I never sent an email like that to my BMs and I am one of the most organized (and anal) people I know. I had shitt like that for my eyes only, but I would never have sent that to anybody. Ever.
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    [QUOTE]Am I the only one who doesn't think it's all that bad? Yeah some of it is lame, (jewelry, party bus?) but a lot of it just sounds like she wants to be organized and have everyone on the same page. 
    Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]

    <div>You don't see anything wrong with expecting your BM's to dedicate the entire week before your wedding to helping you set up and decorate your venue?  </div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: **silent scream** : You don't see anything wrong with expecting your BM's to dedicate the entire week before your wedding to helping you set up and decorate your venue?  
    Posted by dnbeach12[/QUOTE]
    I don't see her requiring or saying she expects them to be there. I see her saying she will be there, and we I took for her and her hubby to be. Like "yay it's wedding week! I'll get the keys on this day, and we'll start decorating, i'd love whatever help you want to offer". 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: **silent scream** : I don't see her requiring or saying she expects them to be there. I see her saying she will be there, and we I took for her and her hubby to be. Like "yay it's wedding week! I'll get the keys on this day, and we'll start decorating, i'd love whatever help you want to offer". 
    Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]
    She blatantly expects them to take off work on Friday to help her have the ceremony location ready by 4pm. 
  • Since when it is appropriate to command your bridesmaids to pay for the party bus, the bach, and the shower and then demand that they stay and clean up? I didn't even hear a "pretty please with sugar on top if you can help." There is a demand for them to arrive to set up chairs, etc. So innappropriate.
  • The last part alone about being drunk not being excuse for not helping to clean up was enough to make the rest of it look equally bad. That being reminded that water is a good idea...hmmmmmmmmm, thanks MOM. 

    That email was much too long and the tone was ridiculous. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: **silent scream** : I don't see her requiring or saying she expects them to be there. I see her saying she will be there, and we I took for her and her hubby to be. Like "yay it's wedding week! I'll get the keys on this day, and we'll start decorating, i'd love whatever help you want to offer". 
    Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]
    <em>
    </em><div><em>"<span style="color:#333333;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;line-height:16px;" class="Apple-style-span">Monday through Thursday (10am-ish – 8pm-ish):</span></em></div><span style="color:#333333;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;line-height:16px;" class="Apple-style-span"><p style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:transparent;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11px;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;vertical-align:baseline;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;text-align:left;line-height:1.5em;border-width:0px;padding:0px;margin:0px;"><em> </em></p><p style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:transparent;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11px;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;vertical-align:baseline;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;text-align:left;line-height:1.5em;border-width:0px;padding:0px;margin:0px;"><em>I thought I’d give a rough range of time in which I’ll need to accomplish things. Those times on different days will be specified as we get closer, and we have a better idea of our needs."</em></p><p style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:transparent;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11px;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;vertical-align:baseline;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;text-align:left;line-height:1.5em;border-width:0px;padding:0px;margin:0px;"> </p><p style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:transparent;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11px;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;vertical-align:baseline;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;text-align:left;line-height:1.5em;border-width:0px;padding:0px;margin:0px;">That to me means "we expect you to be available during those times for whatever want."</p><p style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:transparent;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11px;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;vertical-align:baseline;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;text-align:left;line-height:1.5em;border-width:0px;padding:0px;margin:0px;"> </p><p style="background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:transparent;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11px;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;vertical-align:baseline;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;text-align:left;line-height:1.5em;border-width:0px;padding:0px;margin:0px;">Also, I love that she says she will be covering the floral expenses.</p></span>
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