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So last night i spoke to FSIL. I basically figured she wouldnt be a BM and she said at this time, she is going to have to talk to her husband, but she doesn't think that she is going to be able to swing paying for coming out here and also being in the wedding. Which is fine with me! I wanted her to tell me, so i didn't have to order extra bouquet, order an extra BM gift, etc.

she told me the email i sent (to  her and all bms) made it seem like i expected them to be at my shower-which she wouldnt be able to attend. I said, well that's not really the case- because she lives far away- but the rest of my bridesmaids are all throwing me the shower with my mom and aunts. I didn't know HOW to say "well no, you don't have to come obvisusly but right now all my other bridesmaids are in the midst of planning a "surprise" shower for me, and becuse you didint write back to their emails they just figured you didnt want to partipate. because i am technically not "supposed" to know that. They basically asked her for feedback on invitations, cake , etc to "include" her- since she wouldnt be able to attend.

finally, she brought up teh dresses. I don't mean to get all bridesziilla on her. But we all picked out online a few dresses that they all like and I like as well. and she said "oh so we aren't just wearing something we already own- you are doing something really Formal, royal weddingy". 
I am not doing something really formal royal weddingy, we basically are going to davids bridal, like i think much of the country does- and are picking out dresses...

 I DO feel super awkward to make people buy dresses. I know thats what you do. I've been a BM before and everyone else in my wedding has- and i know thats just the way ti is. But it is kind of an awkward thing anyway. I mean am i the only one that feels that way? I know my friends are willing to pay for the dresses, etc but it still feels slightly uncomfortable to be liek "ok so is this the one you guys like, because I like this one...so go ahead, you buy it?"
i guess I am just not the type to put people out- so it does make me feel super awkward.
but now i tink i am getting to the point that i am being almost TOO considerate. I have sent numerous emails about styles people like, pricing, budgets, places they want to shop etc. And Now I am considering actually throwing anything i want out the window in favor of them picking whatever color or style they want. I don't really want to do that. but i know if I DO do that that then my FSIL can just wear "something she already owns"

i dont mean to be a b*tch- but i feel liek its my wedding, and ive worn an ugly bridesmaids dress for everyone else, and I sould get to pick what I like- based on how i want my photos to look etc that day.
Am I asking too much?
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  • thanks ladies! I went to bed last night thinking I was being "so demanding" and a real prissy bride. and I woke up thinking "i think I am pretty normal"

    i understand that her social circle does things different as amethyst says. And i am by no means "fancy" but i want a nice formal wedding. That is my taste. and I think if all my other bridesmaids are willng to wear a long chiffon dress for one day my FSIL could too. but she made me feel like crapola for wanting that.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: feeling awkward about BM stuff- anyone else? :<strong> I would let them wear whatever shoes they want to wear.</strong> Technically if you dictate a specific shoe like that, you should be paying for them. Taking into consideration their comfort is best, as well. There's no way I could walk in 4" heels. Absolutely no way. If you insisted I must, I would probably drop out of the WP which would therefore most likely end our friendship. Totally sucks over a pair of shoes that are worn 1 day, right?
    Posted by AmethystMSU[/QUOTE]

    That is what I told them to do, because frankly I could care less. I just threw out to them that It would be neat if they DID have matching shoes, then my sister and I found really cheap awesome ones at Payless that were also on sale so I had told all the girls about them. I didn't realize they were 4" heels at the time because my sister (who does not wear heels) and my mother both tried them on and thought they were comfortable and manageable.
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    [QUOTE]So last night i spoke to FSIL. I basically figured she wouldnt be a BM and she said at this time, she is going to have to talk to her husband, but <strong>she doesn't think that she is going to be able to swing paying for coming out here and also being in the wedding.</strong> Which is fine with me! I wanted her to tell me, so i didn't have to order extra bouquet, order an extra BM gift, etc. she told me the email i sent (to  her and all bms) made it seem like i expected them to be at my shower-which she wouldnt be able to attend. I said, well that's not really the case- because she lives far away- but the rest of my bridesmaids are all throwing me the shower with my mom and aunts. I didn't know HOW to say "well no, you don't have to come obvisusly but right now all my other bridesmaids are in the midst of planning a "surprise" shower for me, and becuse you didint write back to their emails they just figured you didnt want to partipate. because i am technically not "supposed" to know that. They basically asked her for feedback on invitations, cake , etc to "include" her- since she wouldnt be able to attend. finally, she brought up teh dresses. I don't mean to get all bridesziilla on her. But we all picked out online a few dresses that they all like and I like as well. and she said "oh so we aren't just wearing something we already own- you are doing something really Formal, royal weddingy".  <strong>I am not doing something really formal royal weddingy, we basically are going to davids bridal, like i think much of the country does- and are picking out dresses...</strong>  I DO feel super awkward to make people buy dresses. I know thats what you do. I've been a BM before and everyone else in my wedding has- and i know thats just the way ti is. <strong>But it is kind of an awkward thing anyway. I mean am i the only one that feels that way? I know my friends are willing to pay for the dresses, etc but it still feels slightly uncomfortable to be liek "ok so is this the one you guys like, because I like this one...so go ahead, you buy it?"</strong> i guess I am just not the type to put people out- so it does make me feel super awkward. but now i tink i am getting to the point that i am being almost TOO considerate. I have sent numerous emails about styles people like, pricing, budgets, places they want to shop etc. And Now I am considering actually throwing anything i want out the window in favor of them picking whatever color or style they want. I don't really want to do that. but i know if I DO do that that then my FSIL can just wear "something she already owns" i dont mean to be a b*tch- but i feel liek its my wedding, and ive worn an ugly bridesmaids dress for everyone else, and I sould get to pick what I like- based on how i want my photos to look etc that day. <strong>Am I asking too much?
    </strong>Posted by i2012do[/QUOTE]
    1.) I think this is her way of getting out of it. If I remember correctly, you've been having issues with her for awhile regarding BM stuff, so here's your out. Be understanding and let her know it's more important for her and her H to be there and you understand if the cost is too much to also be in the wedding.

    2.) Even on TK, where posters in general disagree that the WP has set "duties", most/all posters feel as a BM your one main duty is to wear and pay the dress that was chosen for you. This is the norm in most social circles and should be expected. It is not "formal royal weddingy" as your FSIL said.

    3.) I agree, it is a little awkward to be like, "OK here ya go, here is this $125 ($150, $175, what have you) dress I picked out, go buy it!!" One option is to pick a designer, fabric, color, and length and then let them choose. I did this, my BFF did it a year ago, and it's a popular option right now, especially if you have BMs of various sizes, etc. This also enables the BMs to find out prices of styles that meet those criteria; they can then choose a cheaper dress if price is important to them.

    4.) You are not asking too much. I really don't think your FSIL wants to be in your wedding, since she's putting up a fight about everything. Do NOT kick her out, but if she comes back after talking to her husband and says they can't swing the extra cost, graciously accept her resignation and thank your lucky stars you don't have to deal with her anymore wedding-wise!!! :)
  • Ha! I def. think this is true that its her way out. I secretly wouldnt mind if she backed out- I mean I don't feel like having a struggle the entire way through the wedding on every single thing.

    Thanks for pointing out that most people agree that it is basically the one thing you have to do. Buy the dress and wear it. She was making me feel like I was so "out of the ordinary" and being super pretentious. Part of this is that where they are from ,weddings are typically done very differently...

    I mean I don't mean to be rude, I hear everyones complaints about flying out here being expensive. But I feel like no one is acknowedling the cost to FI and I to have a wedding, treat them to drinks, dinner, a rehearsel dinner etc- is much LARGER than the cost of a plane ticket etc.
    Plus we fly out there all the time to visit them, and no one EVER comes to visit us and we've lived here for almost 3 years.

    I kind of feel relieved that this is  her way out of the wedding party.
    But it totally is awk to be like "heres the dress. like it, pull out your credit card"
    but hey, i';ve done it for all these girls- i guess its my turn :)

    She actually, was the only one i was worried about with the price point etc. Everyone else told me their budget was about $200 so I have been finding dresses under this price point.
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    [QUOTE]Ha! I def. think this is true that its her way out. I secretly wouldnt mind if she backed out- I mean I don't feel like having a struggle the entire way through the wedding on every single thing. Thanks for pointing out that most people agree that it is basically the one thing you have to do. Buy the dress and wear it. <strong>She was making me feel like I was so "out of the ordinary" and being super pretentious. Part of this is that where they are from ,weddings are typically done very differently</strong>... I mean I don't mean to be rude, I hear everyones complaints about flying out here being expensive. But I feel like no one is acknowedling the cost to FI and I to have a wedding, treat them to drinks, dinner, a rehearsel dinner etc- is much LARGER than the cost of a plane ticket etc. Plus we fly out there all the time to visit them, and no one EVER comes to visit us and we've lived here for almost 3 years. I kind of feel relieved that this is  her way out of the wedding party. But it totally is awk to be like "heres the dress. like it, pull out your credit card" but hey, i';ve done it for all these girls- i guess its my turn :) She actually, was the only one i was worried about with the price point etc. Everyone else told me their budget was about $200 so I have been finding dresses under this price point.
    Posted by i2012do[/QUOTE]
    If buying a special dress chosen by the bride is not what is normally done in FSIL's social circle, then I can better understand where she is coming from. I disagree with her that you're being pretentious, but that's probably because my social circle does the same thing as yours does for BM dresses. The bride chooses, the BM orders and pays, end of story. It's just expected.

    It was nice of you to ask your BMs for their budget :)
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    [QUOTE] I mean I don't mean to be rude, I hear everyones complaints about flying out here being expensive. But I feel like no one is acknowedling the cost to FI and I to have a wedding, treat them to drinks, dinner, a rehearsel dinner etc- is much LARGER than the cost of a plane ticket etc. Plus we fly out there all the time to visit them, and no one EVER comes to visit us and we've lived here for almost 3 years.Posted by i2012do[/QUOTE]

    FI and I have that exact issue, though we haven't gotten much pushback on cost yet - we're always the one to go visit my family save for my Mom coming to us.  Heck, his family rarely drives the 30 minutes to come to us and when we were looking for venues his sister even remarked about the potential of having to drive to the south end for the wedding! 

    I think if you're staying in price point and getting BM feedback, then you're fine.  My intention is to have my BMs choose a dress they all like and agree on (as I might be in the minority of wanting my BMs to all have the same dress) - I hope I can get them all together to do so - we've offered to fly my Sister and SIL out for a weekend to pick out dresses and have a girl's weekend for that purpose.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: feeling awkward about BM stuff- anyone else? : FI and I have that exact issue, though we haven't gotten much pushback on cost yet - we're always the one to go visit my family save for my Mom coming to us.  Heck, his family rarely drives the 30 minutes to come to us and when we were looking for venues his sister even remarked about the potential of having to drive to the south end for the wedding!  I think if you're staying in price point and getting BM feedback, then you're fine.  My intention is to have my BMs choose a dress they all like and agree on (<strong>as I might be in the minority of wanting my BMs to all have the same dress</strong>) - I hope I can get them all together to do so - we've offered to fly my Sister and SIL out for a weekend to pick out dresses and have a girl's weekend for that purpose.
    Posted by LGM22[/QUOTE]

    then i guess i am too. :)  i'm lucky that everyone loved the dress I chose. it's classy and it can be worn again too
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    [QUOTE]I initially told all my BMs to just pick any dress they wanted so long as it was black and not full-length, but it just so happened that when I was at the dress shop one of my BMs found a dress she loved and she sent pictures of it to the rest of the BMs and they all agreed they loved it! Now i'm getting a lot of flak for shoes though. I thought it would be cool if they all wore matching red shoes but they're bickering about heel height - two of them think 4" heels are fine and the other two claim I'm trying to kill them.
    Posted by entropicbeauty[/QUOTE]

    At first I wanted them all to wear the same shoe, and none of them expected me to buy them for them, but I scratched the idea because not everyone likes the same shoe, and since I love shoes so so much I'd prefer the variety in pictures. Plus I want them all to be comfortable. Now I'm just like find pink shoes that you like, show me a picture, and I'll let you know if the color is ok. (I don't want them to wear hot pink or fuschia.)
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  • I initially told all my BMs to just pick any dress they wanted so long as it was black and not full-length, but it just so happened that when I was at the dress shop one of my BMs found a dress she loved and she sent pictures of it to the rest of the BMs and they all agreed they loved it!

    Now i'm getting a lot of flak for shoes though. I thought it would be cool if they all wore matching red shoes but they're bickering about heel height - two of them think 4" heels are fine and the other two claim I'm trying to kill them.
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    [QUOTE]I initially told all my BMs to just pick any dress they wanted so long as it was black and not full-length, but it just so happened that when I was at the dress shop one of my BMs found a dress she loved and she sent pictures of it to the rest of the BMs and they all agreed they loved it! Now i'm getting a lot of flak for shoes though. I thought it would be cool if they all wore matching red shoes but they're bickering about heel height - two of them think 4" heels are fine and the other two claim I'm trying to kill them.
    Posted by entropicbeauty[/QUOTE]
    I would let them wear whatever shoes they want to wear. Technically if you dictate a specific shoe like that, you should be paying for them. Taking into consideration their comfort is best, as well. There's no way I could walk in 4" heels. Absolutely no way. If you insisted I must, I would probably drop out of the WP which would therefore most likely end our friendship. Totally sucks over a pair of shoes that are worn 1 day, right?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: feeling awkward about BM stuff- anyone else? : That is what I told them to do, because frankly I could care less. I just threw out to them that It would be neat if they DID have matching shoes, then my sister and I found really cheap awesome ones at Payless that were also on sale so I had told all the girls about them. I didn't realize they were 4" heels at the time because my sister (who does not wear heels) and my mother both tried them on and thought they were comfortable and manageable.
    Posted by entropicbeauty[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>If you're wanting the BMs to wear all the same shoe, you should be paying for them.  The only thing BMs need to pay for is the dress.</div><div>
    </div><div>Also, 4" heels are not something I would be comfortable in.  I don't wear heels at all, so even the slightest heels are super uncomfortable to me, partially due to some lingering hip issues.</div><div>
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    [QUOTEAnd i am by no means "fancy" but i want a nice formal wedding. That is my taste. and I think if all my other bridesmaids are willng to wear a long chiffon dress for one day my FSIL could too. but she made me feel like crapola for wanting that.
    Posted by i2012do[/QUOTE]

    Totally Know how you feel!! my FSIL makes me feel like CRAPOLA too!

    My wedding dress is halter and I fell in love with a halter bridesmaid dress all from Davids Bridal to match my dress because I think it would be cute. The color of the dress is Persimmon with a Plum sash that ties in a bow in the back and plum shoes. Im getting married next October and I think those colors will go great with the dress. Yes I know its 9 months away and We arent going shopping till February, and I was going to let them pick out the shoes but kinda like the idea of them matching the plum sash. WIith that being said...

    my FI's one sister that im really close to keeps telling me she cant wear the halter dress or a strapless because her boobs sag to low from having 3 kids and she just cannot wear a strapless bra! I told her they had halter bras we could try and she insists she's looked at them ONLINE and they are still to low so her boobs will still pop out when she bends over. *sigh* There is sooo much more about her I could go on forever...which I have kinda on the other Post...lol

    My other friend thats in the wedding is 6'4 and with 4' inch heals! They Make her look like amazon woman! and the bad thing about it is..she insists on wearing the heals but complains because the guy shes walking with is going to be really much shorter then her!! WELL DUH! she also said if she has to wear the "ugly" persimmon color then shes putting the dress up on ebay the day after the wedding ASAP..(wow. really? Thanks!)


    Ive tried being super nice about the whole thing but Im afraid Im about to turn into a "bridezilla" very soon! AND I don't want that at all!!! The thing is they all keep saying I dont care what  you wana do for dresses or what color but this is what I think..and its so annoying because they really arent being supportive like they think they are. or at least saying they are!

    I love them and I don't want to have to sit down and talk to all 4 of them and tell them how I feel but I don't know what else to do!?!? my FI keeps telling me "you just need to tell them, this is the dress this is the color, end of story" and my FI, Mother and maid of honor thinks I need to have a sit down with everyone and get things straight. I just don't know if I can do that?

    Here is the bridesmaid dress Im looking at from Davids Bridal style number. Its Persimmon dress with the add on plum sash:
    Satin Empire Ball Gown with Illusion Halter Style 81441
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: feeling awkward about BM stuff- anyone else? : [QUOTEAnd i am by no means "fancy" but i want a nice formal wedding. That is my taste. and I think if all my other bridesmaids are willng to wear a long chiffon dress for one day my FSIL could too. but she made me feel like crapola for wanting that. Posted by i2012do[/QUOTE] Totally Know how you feel!! my FSIL makes me feel like CRAPOLA too! My wedding dress is halter and I fell in love with a halter bridesmaid dress all from Davids Bridal to match my dress because I think it would be cute. The color of the dress is Persimmon with a Plum sash that ties in a bow in the back and plum shoes. Im getting married next October and I think those colors will go great with the dress. Yes I know its 9 months away and We arent going shopping till February, and I was going to let them pick out the shoes but kinda like the idea of them matching the plum sash. WIith that being said... my FI's one sister that im really close to keeps telling me she cant wear the halter dress or a strapless because her boobs sag to low from having 3 kids and she just cannot wear a strapless bra! I told her they had halter bras we could try and she insists she's looked at them ONLINE and they are still to low so her boobs will still pop out when she bends over. *sigh* There is sooo much more about her I could go on forever...which I have kinda on the other Post...lol My other friend thats in the wedding is 6'4 and with 4' inch heals!<strong> They Make her look like amazon woman! and the bad thing about it is..she insists on wearing the heals but complains because the guy shes walking with is going to be really much shorter then her!!</strong> WELL DUH! she also said if she has to wear the "ugly" persimmon color then shes putting the dress up on ebay the day after the wedding ASAP..(wow. really? Thanks!) Ive tried being super nice about the whole thing but Im afraid Im about to turn into a "bridezilla" very soon! AND I don't want that at all!!! The thing is they all keep saying I dont care what  you wana do for dresses or what color but this is what I think..and its so annoying because they really arent being supportive like they think they are. or at least saying they are! I love them and I don't want to have to sit down and talk to all 4 of them and tell them how I feel but I don't know what else to do!?!? my FI keeps telling me "you just need to tell them, this is the dress this is the color, end of story" and my FI, Mother and maid of honor thinks I need to have a sit down with everyone and get things straight. I just don't know if I can do that? Here is the bridesmaid dress Im looking at from Davids Bridal style number. Its Persimmon dress with the add on plum sash: Satin Empire Ball Gown with Illusion Halter Style 81441
    Posted by Mattia12[/QUOTE]

    All of my BMs are going to be taller than the groomsmen!! (except my brother & SIL) All of FIs friends are short LOL
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