I am very new to planning, so I apologize if this has been discussed here before. I am really interested in the Renault Winery. However, I'm a little dissappointed that their per person rates don't include a full liquor open bar. So when it's all said and done, the rate is closer to $100/pp and not $75 like I had hoped. Does anyone know if their rates are negotiable? I would really like to have the full liquor open bar. Has anyone instead done the wine cocktails and been happy with them?