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S/O Atheist/Agnostic Question and Poll

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Re: S/O Atheist/Agnostic Question and Poll

  • But LVB, that implies that the person who knows that feeling is superior to me, that they've reached an enlightenment that I haven't and I don't agree with that, nor will I cowtow to someone and seem like a rube when I'm not.

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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_atheistagnostic-question-poll?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:dae04e66-42aa-4bf8-b09d-e8fb8df0294dPost:65ddda99-9915-4a55-a5e9-3dde6edfe3c2">Re: S/O Atheist/Agnostic Question and Poll</a>:
    [QUOTE]You just can't relate to that feeling and that's fine. Just because you can't relate, doesn't mean it's a "cop out" on my part. I don't have better words to explain it because it's not empirical. I wouldn't say "cop out' because to me it sounds like, "well, that's bullshit." It's tough to articulate yourself on a message board sometimes. Apparently, we're both offending people, and we're on opposite sides of the spectrum.
    Posted by jasmineh7777[/QUOTE]

    Ok, very fair.  I get it now.  I wouldn't want someone telling me that something I believe is bullshit, I wasn't grasping that.  Somehow "cop out" and "bullshit" weren't equating as synonymous to me.  Thanks, Jasmine :)
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  • Um...huh? I've never experienced lots of things, but that doesn't mean I think those that have are better than me? You're projecting your feelings onto that statement and that's fine. But don't try to act like you don't sound supieor when you call it a cop out. I wasn't upset but now I am. I'm going to step out of this thread. I refuse to actually argue religion with someone. I'm good discussing it, but I'm not going to argue.
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  • It happens. Kind of like Poli's use of "Ridiculous" the other day.
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  • I haven't read all the responses yet (that's what she said) but I celebrate the pagan aspects of the holidays.
    I put up my tree and cover it with lights to create happiness and light during the darkest of times. I exchange presents with my loved ones during a time when people generally were in dire need of supplies. I do not attend a mass because that is the Christian aspect and I am not. Nor do I pray or have a birthday party for someone who was believed to have born in April anyways.

    I also celebrate the coming of spring by hiding eggs with goodies for children to find as well as celebrating the annual pagan festival of fertility and rebirth. The fact that it often occurs during Easter week/end is just a perk because I don't have to take a day off to do so.

    I also celebrate the pagan aspect of Halloween (thanking the spirits of the dead for their protection) as well as giving thanks to those who have given so much on Turkey Day.
  • And my only thing I will contribute to the religious conversation...

    Spirituality is not "The way of the Christian church" or "nothing". There are many faiths that meet in the middle or go on their own tangent. I may not believe in the Christian God, Christ as my personal savior, etc, but I do believe in a greater force that is in charge of things and an afterlife. Similarly I do think you can believe in the teachings of Jesus while not adhering to the human element of "the church".
    There is a wide variety and I've seen many extremes. I was the president of our Athiest/Agnostic/Humanist club in college even though I was none listed. I've heard Christians who use the phrase "God said so" to every arguement in the book, even "Why was my mother murdered?" and I've heard athiests say they would not believe in God even if he reached down and smacked them.
    I think the key is to being open to that which is good and creates love, and sorting through what creates terror and hatred. I think it's also important that people realize that religions, ANY religion which is organized has a current political agenda. They need to feel what is good in their hearts and do what is best for humanity as a whole, and this does not mean killing those who don't believe the way they do.
    My Hindu professor once said "There is only one "Truth", and no one will know it until they have left this world. But we humans have many "truths", many paths to take us through this journey of the soul. And as long as we are good, loving people who do no harm we will all one day touch the one Truth, and go "hey, fancy meeting you here."
  • I think I've mentioned this before, but I had a friend who was sihk who celbrated Christmas when she was a kid. Why? Because her parents were immigrants and they wanted the kids to fit in with their new American culture and not be austricized in school because they were "weird."

    Ironically, she spent much of her childhood in a largely Jewish area outside Philadelphia.
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  • And there should have been an "other" option in the post ;) I celebrate my religious aspects of the holidays, but those are not the Christian ones. I picked yes anyways.
  • Sparrow, I got married May 1st ;) Only 2 of my friends picked up that it was a Beltane wedding. And yes, we had May Poles as decoration (they weren't as great as I wanted them to be though)

  • Even though we don't practice religion, the celebration of holidays are very special memories. I'm not justifying the commercialization of these holidays, but there are plenty of people who don't recognize the religious aspect of Christmas and Easter. I couldn't care less about Easter, but I will continue to celebrate Christmas with our children and create new traditions and memories.
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  • Just as I celebrate thanksgiving with my American friend even though I'm not American, I celebrate Christmas and Easter with my religious family. 

     

    Christmas, to me, is a time of appreciating loved ones. My lack of belief in God doesn't preclude such celebration. 

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