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How would you feel?

A little background:  I'm deaf, grew up oral/speaking and learned ASL (American Sign Language) later on.  I now use a mix of both languages to communicate - speaking with my family members/friends from growing up, sign at work/with most of my friends here in DC.  FI is hearing but signs fluently.  We communicate primarily though ASL at home.

Our officiant is the priest from Gallaudet University.  He's hearing but also signs fluently.  He is performing our ceremony in ASL and we will have interpreters voicing what he is signing. FI and I are also planning to sign out vows with interpreters voicing for us. My mom recently realized this (we told her before, but she apparently misunderstood something) and seemed a little upset.  She kept saying that she was a little disappointed that she won't get to hear the priests own voice, or mine/FI's own voices.

We explained everything to her, and she says she feels better about it now, though I  so suspect that she's still a little put off. But it also ot me thinking... 90% of the  invited guests don't know ASL, including my entire family, FI's entire family, all the people I knew growing up, etc.  I'm starting to worry that people will be confused when they see the officiant moving his hands and hearing someone else's voice.  Aside from my deaf friends and friends who are interpreters, nobody really understands this part of my life and they've always just known me to speak to them.  I'm also worried that my mom has stronger feelings about it than she's letting on and will feel somehow left out or hurt that she couldn't hear me say my vows with my own voice.

Speaking and signing at the same time has been discussed, but I really would prefer not to..  ASL and English have very different grammar structures, and putting them together is kind of like trying to speak Spanish with English word order.  Usually when people try to do this, both languages end up sounding/looking very awkward.

I know I'm over anazlyzing things.  I know that everything will work out and we'll be married at the end of it.  But I can't stop worrying about how most of the guests might react to this.  We just sent out invitations to 248 people, and everything is just now hitting me.

Please be honest.  How would you feel as a guest who doesn't know ASL and never knew the bride/groom to communicate this way?  Confused?  Cheated somehow?  Fascinated?


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  • I don't think anyone would be confused if the officiant is signing and someone else is speaking.
    If someone is speaking, even if not you, I think it will be fine.

    I actually find it really sweet. I think your guest will understands because they do know your deaf (Right?)
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  • If I did not know you were deaf I may be a bit confused by this.  However, I certainly wouldn't feel "cheated" or disappointed at all.  If that is how you and FI are most comfortable/happy hearing and completing vows then I think by all means that is how it should be done!  As long as their is a translator like you described then I can't imagine anyone being bothered by this situation.
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  • Personally, I would think it was beautiful. People know that you are deaf, so I'm guessing that seeing you communicate in ASL won't be too much of a surprise. Also, your wedding is your time to incorporate aspects of your culture as you see fit, and ASL is a major part of your culture. I think you're overthinking.

    If anything, your mom might be a little more emotional than most people because she chose to raise you speaking, and you're choosing signing for your vows. But most people won't have such a personal investment in your choices.
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    [QUOTE]. If anything, your mom might be a little more emotional than most people because she chose to raise you speaking, and you're choosing signing for your vows. But most people won't have such a personal investment in your choices.
    Posted by sarah0725[/QUOTE]

    I think this is what I needed to hear.  I know I'm overthinking it.  I think the stress from being 2 months out is just getting to me.  Thanks for bringing me back down to earth a bit.
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    [QUOTE]I don't think anyone would be confused if the officiant is signing and someone else is speaking. If someone is speaking, even if not you, I think it will be fine. I actually find it really sweet. I think your guest will understands because they do know your deaf (Right?)
    Posted by kkchisholm[/QUOTE]

    They do know, but most of them have never actually communicated with me using ASL or an interpreter.  We just play the "what? I'm sorry, can you repeat that?" game a lot.  The vast majority of our guest list is family, friends from growing up, and parents friends.
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  • I'd love it. I have several deaf friends and I wouldn't feel bad/awkward/cheated about witnessing a ceremony held in ASL and translated into spoken word. I think you and your FI should hold your ceremony in your language of choice, providing interpretation is a courtesy for your guests.
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  • I think it makes sense that you would be signing. It seems to me that you are probably most comfortable with this method of communication, since it's how you and your FI communicate at home. That's what's meaningful to you, so I think it's what you should do. If I was someone who knew you as oral, I might be put off for a second, and then be completely fascinated to watch you sign. I certainly wouldn't feel cheated or upset that I'm not hearing your voice.
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    [QUOTE]Personally, I would think it was beautiful. People know that you are deaf, so I'm guessing that seeing you communicate in ASL won't be too much of a surprise. Also, your wedding is your time to incorporate aspects of your culture as you see fit, and ASL is a major part of your culture. I think you're overthinking. If anything, your mom might be a little more emotional than most people because she chose to raise you speaking, and you're choosing signing for your vows. But most people won't have such a personal investment in your choices.
    Posted by sarah0725[/QUOTE]

    This.


    I would be fascinated to see you sign your vows and have it translated for me to understand.
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  • Also, if you're worried about it, you cold put a blurb in your program that you anf FI have decided to have your ceremony in ASL because it's how you communicate primarily in your private lives.
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  • I'm veering away from the original question (ps, I'd be fascinated), but how does your FI feel? Since he is hearing, he's ok with nothing being spoken? I know I've asked you dumb questions before, becaue I am totally ignorant about deafness. But I think ASL is so beautiful.
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    [QUOTE]Also, if you're worried about it, you cold put a blurb in your program that you anf FI have decided to have your ceremony in ASL because it's how you communicate primarily in your private lives.
    Posted by brookelynpaisley[/QUOTE]

    This is a really good idea that I should have thought of but didn't.  And definitely makes me feel better.  Thanks!!
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    [QUOTE]I'm veering away from the original question (ps, I'd be fascinated), but how does your FI feel? Since he is hearing, he's ok with nothing being spoken? I know I've asked you dumb questions before, becaue I am totally ignorant about deafness. But I think ASL is so beautiful.
    Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

    FI is all for it.  He's actually the one who initially suggested asking the Gallaudet priest to perform the ceremony.

    And don't let yourself think your questions are dumb.  It's understandable to be curious/not know if you've never been exposed to it.  I'd much rather people ask than assume something incorrectly :)
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  • I think it would be an awesome experience to see this.  I also thinks it is something that is special for you and your future husband and in no way would I be put off or annoyed. 
    However, if you decided to could you maybe say 'I do' out loud and maybe have the priest announce you as Mr. and Mrs. out loud.  Not by any means saying it wouldn't be wonderful the way you have planned but just a suggestion.
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  • That's really great that you all are able to do something so meaningful to you two. My dad performed the ceremony and that was really amazing for us. I think it makes it that much more special when the person means something to you.
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  • I'm already feeling better.  I think I'm just stressed and putting way much more importance on this that I need to.  Thanks ladies! :)
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    [QUOTE]I think it would be an awesome experience to see this.  I also thinks it is something that is special for you and your future husband and in no way would I be put off or annoyed.  However, if you decided to could you maybe say 'I do' out loud and maybe have the priest announce you as Mr. and Mrs. out loud.  Not by any means saying it wouldn't be wonderful the way you have planned but just a suggestion.
    Posted by jamiefour[/QUOTE]

    Actually, I kind of like this idea.  I'll talk with FI and the priest about it.  Thanks!
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    [QUOTE]Personally, I would think it was beautiful. People know that you are deaf, so I'm guessing that seeing you communicate in ASL won't be too much of a surprise. Also, your wedding is your time to incorporate aspects of your culture as you see fit, and ASL is a major part of your culture. I think you're overthinking. If anything, your mom might be a little more emotional than most people because she chose to raise you speaking, and you're choosing signing for your vows. But most people won't have such a personal investment in your choices.
    Posted by sarah0725[/QUOTE]
    This, and since you and your FI agree to it, I think that is all that matters.<div>
    </div><div>You thought of your guests and are having a translator.  ASL is beautiful and I love that you and your FI are choosing to communicate your love without words.  I find this somehow more powerful.</div>
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  • I wouldn't think twice about it.  I think it's lovely.
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  • I would find it interesting, personally.  I've job shadowed with a court reporter who has done CART and I think its intersting.

    I also think its sweet because its special between you and your fi.  If your family knows you're deaf, I think they would understand.  I would anyway.
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  • no, i wouldn't feel cheated...do what you are most comfortable with...your mom loves you...she'll be ok with whatever you decide...really.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How would you feel? : Actually, I kind of like this idea.  I'll talk with FI and the priest about it.  Thanks!
    Posted by LP11509[/QUOTE]
    I am glad.  It will be awesome either way!
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  • I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. 

    I attended a memorial service for an old friend who was hearing but his sons were profoundly deaf.  There was a translator and i had a hard time keeping the tears away.  Your mom should chill, it's fine
  • Your vows are the most important words you will ever say to your fi and vice versa. While your wedding is also about sharing these words with your loved ones, this is ultimately between the two of you and is the most meaningful to the two of you. Speaking or signing, you should use the most comfortable, personal and meaningful form of communication for the two of you. Most if not all of your guests will understand, unless they did not previously know you were deaf, but it wouldn't take most people who did not previously know long to figure out what's going on.
  • I think this is one of those cases where you and your fiance should do what you feel comfortable doing. If you spoke primarily Spanish or Greek at home, I would have the same opinion...

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    [QUOTE]How would you feel as a guest who doesn't know ASL and never knew the bride/groom to communicate this way?  Confused?  Cheated somehow?  Fascinated?
    Posted by LP11509[/QUOTE]
    If they know you are deaf, as most of your guests will, I'm sure, then it shouldn't come as a surprise that you use sign language.
    If I were a guest and the bride and groom started popping out with sign language, then I wouldn't be confused and I certainly wouldn't feel cheated. I mean, for the most part, most people are aware of what sign language is, even if they don't know how to communicate that way.

    You said you'll be having translators, so no one is going to miss anything other than your voices, but they'll survive. Even without proper translators, sign language is such a beautiful language, it would be far from a waste of time to watch the fluid motions... and the emotions always show through.
    If you think your mother is hurting, it might not hurt to have a sit down with her and discuss that this is what you and your fiance have chosen because this is what makes you comfortable.
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  • everyone that is coming to the wedding knows you guys. they should understand i think it would be fine. Like others have said i think it is sweet!!
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  • I can't believe that I'm going to say this, but since it's your wedding, I think you should do what you want.  As a guest, I would thoroughly enjoy it and be happy that you had the wedding that fit you and your FI.

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  • you should communicate in the way that is most comfortable to you. 

    i do have to say though as a guest, if i had known you forever as a family member has and had never seen you use ASL, knew that you speak clearly, and knew that your FI is hearing, i would be slightly confused as to why you would choose to say your vows in a language that i had never witnessed you use. i wouldn't judge or feel cheated or anything like that, but i would wonder. the idea about a blurb about how that's the language that you and your Fi use at home would help to explain to your guests why you chose to say your vows in asl. 
  • I would LOVE to be part of a ceremony done in ASL.  Vows are special and sacred to the bride and groom.  They are the true point of the day and what you two share at that moment should be done in the way you feel the best and most comfortable.  I agree with the note in the program saying you chose to do it this way because this is how you two primarily communicate.  And ditto that other guests won't feel short-changed not hearing you speak.  If anything, I think a lot of people will feel special to have witnessed it :).
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    [QUOTE]I can't believe that I'm going to say this, but since it's your wedding, I think you should do what you want.  As a guest, I would thoroughly enjoy it and be happy that you had the wedding that fit you and your FI. How long will the ceremony be? 
    Posted by sucrets4[/QUOTE]

    Sorry, I missed this before.  Ceremony will be about 45 minutes - it's a Catholic ceremony, but without the communion part (FI's Catholic, but I'm not.  We decided not to have communion since I wouldn't be able to partipate in it).

    I'm heading to bed now. Goodnight everyone :)
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  • I think you should run with your original plan.I can't imagine that anyone will be confused.
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