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I Don't Get It
So, I know we just did "I dislike," but I was watching TV last night and had a huge sudden disconnect with the wedding shows. So, I'd never seen a full episode of My Fair Wedding until this week, I think I'd always seen the last half of them or something. I watched a marathon, and here's what I don't get: He comes in 3 weeks before the wedding and changes everything, sometimes even the city or state (I realize things in New England are closer together, but still). I know the brides get their "dream" wedding, but 3 weeks beforehand I hop to have it all mapped out, I'd hate to put that kind of inconvenience on my family and friends who were coming. Also, does he or the production company pay for the lost deposits and such or reimburse for the dress or the centerpiece stuff they already bought and paid for? I can't see FI being totally thrilled that even though we had this ridiculous-over-the-top wedding that we were still paying the places we originally booked.
I was reminded of this watching an episode of How Do I Look? where the nominee was a bride, and they asked her and her FI that if money was no object, when would they have gotten married,and they said "yesterday," so the host girl said that the show was marrying them "tomorrow." I know that productions can pull out a lot, but, honestly, how would you get your people there, let along get your dress to actually fit you, plus if there were other things you needed to do before the wedding. I am probably over-thinking this, but it seems just so ridiculous.
I was reminded of this watching an episode of How Do I Look? where the nominee was a bride, and they asked her and her FI that if money was no object, when would they have gotten married,and they said "yesterday," so the host girl said that the show was marrying them "tomorrow." I know that productions can pull out a lot, but, honestly, how would you get your people there, let along get your dress to actually fit you, plus if there were other things you needed to do before the wedding. I am probably over-thinking this, but it seems just so ridiculous.
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Re: I Don't Get It
I dislike that show because it isn't like he helps them have a better wedding - he basically just gifts them a dream wedding way out of their budget. I think I'd like it a lot better if he helped a bride create her dream wedding within her own budget (even if they cover the cost, at least it wouldn't be going from a $5k wedding to a $50k wedding overnight - it makes it more realistic to viewers at home to come up with ideas for how to stretch their own budgets).
They can tailor a gown in one day if you have the money. I don't know about the guests, but I suppose that's not so important to the show if Great Aunt Rose can travel from Ireland in time for the wedding as much as it might be to the bride & groom, rather the TV show wants the 'wow' factor of pulling off a wedding (that was probably already mostly planned before even telling the bride) in one day.
Not a fan of SYTTD. I’m sorry, but how they brain wash brides that they can’t find a dress for$1,000 is a little on the crazy side. I get they are high end, and expensive… but I don’t like how some of the brides practically sell a kidney to get a 10,000 dress. Plus the woman (man?) that paints on her lips scares me, I don’t remember the consultant’s name, but I can’t figure her out… is it a man? A woman?
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[QUOTE]I'm a big fan of My Fair Wedding. I see it helping most of the brides because they seem very overwhelmed with their planning. It seems like most aren't in love with their ideas but settle. My favorite one so far was where the kid was granted a wish from Make a Wish and he wished that David Tutera would come plan his mom's wedding. They put it on hold because they found out he had cancer. They were less than 3 weeks out from the day and she didn't have a caterer yet. <strong>I also didn't think about what happened to the couple's money but think most of the stuff David uses is free to him or very discounted so the company can get the advertising. At least that's what I've always thought because he says the company name of every product but I could be wrong haha</strong>
Posted by Zimsgirl[/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right - the stuff he uses is definitely comped for the marketing. And due to actors unions and stuff, they're required to pay people who appear on the show, so maybe that's how they pay them back for the lost deposits? My brother was on the Jay Leno show once-upon-a-time and they paid him a few hundred dollars and he had to go to school during the day, even though he was only there one day, due to all the union regulations and such.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Don't Get It : You're absolutely right - the stuff he uses is definitely comped for the marketing. And due to actors unions and stuff, they're required to pay people who appear on the show, so maybe that's how they pay them back for the lost deposits? My brother was on the Jay Leno show once-upon-a-time and they paid him a few hundred dollars and he had to go to school during the day, even though he was only there one day, due to all the union regulations and such.
Posted by calindi[/QUOTE]
I've noticed him having more performers lately. There was one I think it was Alice and Wonderland themed he had different dancers. Personally it's not my taste but it's nice they do get paid and get some time on TV
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[QUOTE]Yeah, they definitely pay for everything, including lost deposits. I can't imagine it happening otherwise. You often see brides who still don't have it together, which is rather odd 3 weeks before the wedding, or don't have a venue or something ridiculous like 200 people for a venue that fits 90 or something. <strong> I dislike that show because it isn't like he helps them have a better wedding - he basically just gifts them a dream wedding way out of their budget. I think I'd like it a lot better if he helped a bride create her dream wedding within her own budget (even if they cover the cost, at least it wouldn't be going from a $5k wedding to a $50k wedding overnight - it makes it more realistic to viewers at home to come up with ideas for how to stretch their own budgets).</strong> They can tailor a gown in one day if you have the money. I don't know about the guests, but I suppose that's not so important to the show if Great Aunt Rose can travel from Ireland in time for the wedding as much as it might be to the bride & groom, rather the TV show wants the 'wow' factor of pulling off a wedding (that was probably already mostly planned before even telling the bride) in one day.
Posted by calindi[/QUOTE]
Yeah, this. I seem to remember seeing an episode a couple of years ago (has it been on that long? maybe it was last year), and it looked like then he kind of worked within their space or used things they had done and infused a bit more cash, but they weren't all these crazy themed weddings with 12 foot trees of roses and special entertainment dancers in them. I do think that everyone seems really grateful, and they pick up people with some real sob stories (I don't mean that in a mean way, it just seems like everyone on the marathon I watched had overcome something), it just seems odd to me to have put that much into a wedding and then just let it go.
Oh, there's definitely product and company placement. You see logos all over the place for either the companies that are providing the lighting or cakes or for companies like ProFlowers that are donating the flowers. It does go to show that if you have enough money and connections you can plan pretty much anything at any time.
As far as SYTTD goes, the pricing is part of why I like the Atlanta one just a bit more. It seems like most brides who come in there are working with at least under $2000; saw a bunch that were looking at under $1200. It seems like they have quite a few under that, so it seems slightly more relatable.
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[QUOTE]I agree divinemsbee. The Atlanta girls seem more modest with their pricing. Obviously it's Kleinfeld so you get people from all over that come just because it's Kleinfelds. My dress was $1300 including alterations. Even if I was given an unlimited budget today I wouldn't change it because I love it
Posted by Zimsgirl[/QUOTE]
Since I'm getting married in Connecticut, I post on that local board quite a bit. You'd be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't) how many girls think having an appointment at Kleinfeld's is an essential part of wedding planning. Usually it's their mothers pushing it. To be honest, if it was up to my Mom, she'd probably drag me there but my Dad would have a fit and there was no way she could justify flying me up just for that. I'm glad we didn't go, it's not my scene. I love my little bridal salon!
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Don't Get It : Since I'm getting married in Connecticut, I post on that local board quite a bit. You'd be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't) how many girls think having an appointment at Kleinfeld's is an essential part of wedding planning. Usually it's their mothers pushing it. To be honest, if it was up to my Mom, she'd probably drag me there but my Dad would have a fit and there was no way she could justify flying me up just for that. I'm glad we didn't go, it's not my scene. I love my little bridal salon!
Posted by calindi[/QUOTE]
Coming out of the woodwork...my mom wouldn't even know what Kleinfeld's is lol.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Don't Get It : Since I'm getting married in Connecticut, I post on that local board quite a bit. You'd be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't) how many girls think having an appointment at Kleinfeld's is an essential part of wedding planning. Usually it's their mothers pushing it. To be honest, if it was up to my Mom, she'd probably drag me there but my Dad would have a fit and there was no way she could justify flying me up just for that. I'm glad we didn't go, it's not my scene. I love my little bridal salon!
Posted by calindi[/QUOTE]
I love mine too! It's an hour and a half away from my parent's but it carried the dress I wanted to try on and turned out being mine. It used to be a church not it's a bridal salon and the confessionals are the fitting rooms! They do a great job so it's nice to support them
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And SYTTD...I can't imagine going into a salon, trying on a dress and falling in love with it, only to have it completely trashed by my (presumably) close friends/family, and then decide against the dress. I don't surround myself with "yes men" by any means, but to cave to that kind of pressure when you so obviously love a dress, I just don't get.
I confess I watch Bridezillas occasionally, only because I hope that one day one of those guys will see the light and leave her at the altar. Or before, don't really care which.
The newer episodes of My Fair Wedding seem to have more of a story - but a lot of them are still, oh I have crappy planning skills and want someone else to give me a huge fantasy wedding. I did really like the one with the Make A Wish family, that was really touching, just because of the story. Ugh - I saw one last week where he did a wedding in Austin, TX and didn't want the bride to drink beer, wear cowboy boots or doing anything improper by snoody etiquitte rules. He even had her eating fried chicken and BBQ ribs with a fork and knife! I laughed when I saw the photographer, or a family friend with a really nice camera standing along the isle taking pics, was wearing denim bib overalls! Take that David!
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[QUOTE]<strong>I want to know how big of a train wreck you have to plan to get David Tutera to come in and take over your wedding. "Yeah, the wedding is in three weeks, and we don't have a caterer or a venue, but we have all these adorable little Adirondak chairs/bananas/empty diet Coke cans!"</strong> And SYTTD...I can't imagine going into a salon, trying on a dress and falling in love with it, only to have it completely trashed by my (presumably) close friends/family, and then decide against the dress. I don't surround myself with "yes men" by any means, but to cave to that kind of pressure when you so obviously love a dress, I just don't get. I confess I watch Bridezillas occasionally, only because I hope that one day one of those guys will see the light and leave her at the altar. Or before, don't really care which.
Posted by kellieinkc[/QUOTE]
Ha Hahahahahahahahahaha. Love it.
It's also weird when it's the opposite, this one girl had made these absolutely jaw-dropping centerpieces herself and they were never used. I mean, it must have taken her days and they were just trashed, I guess? The rest of her wedding looked pretty awesome, too, at that point why do you call this guy? Your wedding would have been really nice, I mean, not circus performers and a customized dance floor nice, but still really pretty.
[QUOTE]I want to know how big of a train wreck you have to plan to get David Tutera to come in and take over your wedding. "Yeah, the wedding is in three weeks, and we don't have a caterer or a venue, but we have all these adorable little Adirondak chairs/bananas/empty diet Coke cans!" And SYTTD...I can't imagine going into a salon, trying on a dress and falling in love with it, only to have it completely trashed by my (presumably) close friends/family, and then decide against the dress. I don't surround myself with "yes men" by any means, but to cave to that kind of pressure when you so obviously love a dress, I just don't get. I<strong> confess I watch Bridezillas occasionally, only because I hope that one day one of those guys will see the light and leave her at the altar. Or before, don't really care which.
</strong>Posted by kellieinkc[/QUOTE]
YES! me too!!! The season on Netflix is Hi-larious. I'm pretty sure half of them are divorced before the end of the month. I watch it when I feel like I am over reacting aobut a wedding detail... Then I see those cray-crays and rest assured that I am not a Bridezilla.
Zims- I laughed so hard when she tried the wine! I wish he would have let her relax a little.
(If you can't tell, I kind of watch this show, a lot. And SYTTD - all three, the original, Big Bliss and Atlanta. I've been a wedding show addict for years. I know, it's probably not healthy and I should seek help, but I can't find a local meeting that doesn't conflict with the shows! My little sis really wants to go to Kleinfelds just so she can say she did it, but totally plans to buy a dress elsewhere.)
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There was one bride who wanted a 1920's wedding and the end result just looked like a fancy party. I didn't see anything that said 20's to me...
My photographer actually has worked with David Tutera and knows him (apparently) and she asked me to contact him and see if he would help with my wedding. I was so scared and nervous but after watching a few episodes I decided that even if he picked me I wouldn't trust him completely to go with the idea in my head.
Although it would be nice for someone to throw together basically a scene from Sofia Coppola's Marie Antoinette.
And my dress is Vera Wang but I only spent about $799 on it.
The Zen girl didn't have a reception space, right? She only could fit like 10 people in one room and 5 in another and couldn't afford wine. That was when I was like, "Oh, okay, so he's just boosting their budget. Whatever. What bride wouldn't want an extra $50k worth of stuff for their wedding?!"
Bridezillas is on Netflix??!!! That's one show I've missed since we cancelled cable (over a year ago). There was a girl from the NEY boards who was on there... she was a nut job, though apparently a bunch of girls on NEY were her buddies. One was apparently even in her wedding party! I never got to see the episode, but I'd love to at some point.
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[QUOTE]I just saw the Texas bride one, too. I thought he was a bit snotty, but whatever. She's the one who wanted him to plan her wedding! It made for good TV. The Zen girl didn't have a reception space, right? She only could fit like 10 people in one room and 5 in another and couldn't afford wine. That was when I was like, "Oh, okay, so he's just boosting their budget. Whatever. What bride wouldn't want an extra $50k worth of stuff for their wedding?!" <strong>Bridezillas is on Netflix??!!! That's one show I've missed since we cancelled cable (over a year ago). There was a girl from the NEY boards who was on there... she was a nut job, though apparently a bunch of girls on NEY were her buddies. One was apparently even in her wedding party! I never got to see the episode, but I'd love to at some point.
</strong>Posted by calindi[/QUOTE]
One season..season 7 I think...
SHUT UP! I saw that episode... Not on netflix... on a website that is totally illegal (eh... shhh)... She was crazzzyyy...
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Don't Get It : One season..season 7 I think... SHUT UP! I saw that episode... Not on netflix... on a website that is totally illegal (eh... shhh)... She was crazzzyyy...
Posted by AmandaSC1988[/QUOTE]
I might have to find this totally illegal website because I MUST see this episode! She was all about zen and butterflies or something. Dark hair, big nose, petite. Totally verbally abusive towards her FI. I was told it was all an act, but I don't believe it based on how she acted on NEY. Some of the worst confrontations we've had on here look like child's play compared to that nutjob.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Don't Get It : I might have to find this totally illegal website because I MUST see this episode! She was all about zen and butterflies or something. Dark hair, big nose, petite. Totally verbally abusive towards her FI. <strong>I was told it was all an act,</strong> but I don't believe it based on how she acted on NEY. Some of the worst confrontations we've had on here look like child's play compared to that nutjob.
Posted by calindi[/QUOTE]
That's what I don't get about that show. A lot of people say that "It must all be an act for the cameras" and I think that's pretty crappy. It's a sad comment on society when, just to be on camera on a show on a less than highly rated basic cable channel, you will act like a total rhymes-with-runt. I can't imagine wanting anything a show would give me badly enough to do that to my friends and family, let alone my own self image. Also, there must be heavy editing because, surely, they must slip up and be at least a little nice sometimes.
I also hate that that show has brought "bridezilla" into the voabulary of people. Now, there are girls that it richly applies to (I've read their questions on Chit-Chat), but for most people wanting some amount of control or stating a preference over a day that will probably be one of the most expensive and photographed in your life doesn't mean you're a total bridezilla. It means you're a bride. Or groom. I definitely made a promise to myself to be open to what comes and work with it; I feel as though a lot of brides let people walk all over them for fear of being called the b-word.
[QUOTE]Yep... pretty sure that is her..If you tell me her first l name, I might be able to help you out.
Posted by AmandaSC1988[/QUOTE]
Begins with a "B". And her FI-turned-DH (and that "D" stans for "damned") starts with "M".
ETA: I totally agree on 'bridezilla' being an over-used term. So many of FI's classmates have asked him if I'm being a bridezilla. Um, wtf? Where did that become an appropriate question? I'm not even remotely a bridezilla, which FI quickly informs them, but seriously - where do these people get off thinking that's an acceptable thing to ask? Why do girls think it's acceptable to turn into a psycho selfish brat because you're getting married? And why do other girls fear sharing their opinion on anything for fear they be labeled a 'bridezilla'? Horrible term. Call a b*tch a b*tch, whether she's getting married or not.
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