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Re: Starving children.

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    [QUOTE]Yeah, I honestly don't understand how anyone says one is "more important" than the other.  We are born where we are born by sheer accident; it has nothing to do with our (or their) value or importance.  That kind of baffles me.  I can understand based on things like the level of corruption, the percentage of $$ that actually goes to help folks v. advertising or management, that kind of stuff.  But to say it's more important to help our own is . . . strange to me. 
    Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]


    Yes! This so much. It's cool to live in a Democracy and all, but it's not like I DESERVE to live in a peaceful place more than anyone else. Accident of birth, I suppose.
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    [QUOTE]Then the starving children steal food.. then they go to juvey... then they meet other street kids... then they learn other crimes... and then it perpetuates a vicious circle.  Happens all the time.  WHY THE FUUCK DO MY POSTS KEEP CENTERING?  HALP!
    Posted by mandysmear[/QUOTE]


    It's part of the Viscious Circle Conspiracy.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
  • MANDY IS STARVING, WHAT?!
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  • I'm starving. I'm going to lunch.
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    [QUOTE]aaaactually Feed My Starving Children does operate in the U.S. but nice try.
    Posted by golden1215[/QUOTE]


    I was sure that you indicated in your post in the other thread that it could help starving children in other countries, no?  Whatever, I don't really care that much.  I just thought it was a ridiculous argument.

    My rather popular opinion is that what I do with my money is none of anyone's business.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
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  • Also? The last time I had Timbits:




    *cries* I miss them.
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    [QUOTE]Yeah, I honestly don't understand how anyone says one is "more important" than the other.  We are born where we are born by sheer accident; it has nothing to do with our (or their) value or importance.  That kind of baffles me.  I can understand based on things like the level of corruption, the percentage of $$ that actually goes to help folks v. advertising or management, that kind of stuff.  But to say it's more important to help our own is . . . strange to me. 
    Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]


    I actually see helping the people in my community as a higher priority than helping people, even in other provinces.  Why?  Because anything that benefits charities in my communities benefits my community.  Why wouldn't I want the kids living in my city to have proper nutrition?  Why wouldn't I donate money to my local children's hospital?

    I value the community and the people I live with.  I even tend to try as much as possible to shop locally.  I see far greater benefit to doing that than sending my money elsewhere.  Maybe I'm selfish, but why would I ignore the local problems in search of greater problems elsewhere?

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
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    [QUOTE]My company is heavily involved in the United Way in our city.  There ARE children in the US and Canada who don't get a proper breakfast and lunch.  Who knows what they get when they get home. Honestly, feeding children is low on my list of charities to donate to, but since it's my money, I really can use or donate it in whatever way I want.  I just thought it was ridiculous that someone would determine that $1000 shoes are bad and that money should be used for a specific charity - particularly when that charity is one that isn't even in her own country.
    Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

    Woah.

    First off, I dislike the United Way, they are super forceful in the way they ask for donations, way more than me putting up an I don't want gifts thing on my registry.

    Secondly, I'm not saying that is good news that they do not recieve proper meals, but they are not dying on the streets from starvation like they are in other countries. I work at food banks all the time, and I know that seeing people in that state is not comforting, but I have a feeling if we saw people in other countries, it be simply terrifying.

    Third, 1000 on shoes is totally ridiculous.  But I doubt she will wear them for only one day, and hopefully since they can afford things like that, they can also afford to donate more money, and all we can hope is that they do. If you had a million dollars, you'd probably buy a few nice unecessary things to, like maybe a trip to france, or nice car, or something that is more up your alley.

    Don't knock my charity requesting, at least I'm not asking for $1000 shoes. I want some money to go somewhere to do something for good.
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    [QUOTE]GOD DAMMIT MOOSE READ MY POSTS.
    Posted by crfische[/QUOTE]


    I'm behind.  I caught up too late.  I suppose this is where I should say that you should be fully aware of where your money is going when you donate to any charity?

    Yeah.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
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    [QUOTE] My rather popular opinion is that what I do with my money is none of anyone's business.
    Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

    But... you opened a forum to see what we wanted to do with our money???? Huh?
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  • H and I sponsor a child in Nicaragua and have for a few years now.

    As far as helping kids in the US, I do think it's important.

    H and I do food donations through our church and things like that.
  • Moose opened a forum? Holy shiit.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Starving children. : Woah. First off, I dislike the United Way, they are super forceful in the way they ask for donations, way more than me putting up an I don't want gifts thing on my registry. Secondly, I'm not saying that is good news that they do not recieve proper meals, but they are not dying on the streets from starvation like they are in other countries. I work at food banks all the time, and I know that seeing people in that state is not comforting, but I have a feeling if we saw people in other countries, it be simply terrifying. Third, 1000 on shoes is totally ridiculous.  But I doubt she will wear them for only one day, and hopefully since they can afford things like that, they can also afford to donate more money, and all we can hope is that they do. If you had a million dollars, you'd probably buy a few nice unecessary things to, like maybe a trip to france, or nice car, or something that is more up your alley. Don't knock my charity requesting, at least I'm not asking for $1000 shoes. I want some money to go somewhere to do something for good.
    Posted by PirateintheSky[/QUOTE]


    My point about the united way is not that it's a great charity.  It's that through my company's involvement with them, I've seen the situation in my own city - from the youth emergency shelter to poorly funded schools.  If anyone is aware of what is going on in a local area, it's probably the United Way.

    I do find them ridiculously obnoxious.  Especially this year when our campaign seems to be running for a bloody year rather than a couple of weeks.  I'm done with it and it hasn't even officially started.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Starving children. : But... you opened a forum to see what we wanted to do with our money???? Huh?
    Posted by PirateintheSky[/QUOTE]


    I was making a point.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Starving children. : Woah. First off, I dislike the United Way, they are super forceful in the way they ask for donations, way more than me putting up an I don't want gifts thing on my registry. Secondly, I'm not saying that is good news that they do not recieve proper meals, but they are not dying on the streets from starvation like they are in other countries. I work at food banks all the time, and I know that seeing people in that state is not comforting, but I have a feeling if we saw people in other countries, it be simply terrifying. Third, 1000 on shoes is totally ridiculous.  But I doubt she will wear them for only one day, and hopefully since they can afford things like that, they can also afford to donate more money, and all we can hope is that they do. If you had a million dollars, you'd probably buy a few nice unecessary things to, like maybe a trip to france, or nice car, or something that is more up your alley. Don't knock my charity requesting, at least I'm not asking for $1000 shoes. I want some money to go somewhere to do something for good.
    Posted by PirateintheSky[/QUOTE]


    Ahhhh so you're one of those people. I bet you think anyone who makes more than a comfortable living should give their hard earned money away and live like the lowest class right? 
    Your posts seriously leave a bad taste in my mouth, I can't believe anyone who has access to the internet can be so ignorant and closed-minded.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Starving children. : I actually see helping the people in my community as a higher priority than helping people, even in other provinces.  Why?  Because anything that benefits charities in my communities benefits my community.  Why wouldn't I want the kids living in my city to have proper nutrition?  Why wouldn't I donate money to my local children's hospital? I value the community and the people I live with.  I even tend to try as much as possible to shop locally.  I see far greater benefit to doing that than sending my money elsewhere.  Maybe I'm selfish, but why would I ignore the local problems in search of greater problems elsewhere?
    Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

    I don't think anyone is trying to say you are selfish.  I am inspired and commend you on your efforts and passion when it comes to this matter.  It is a good and marvelous thing that you are so willing to help other people.  I know a lot of people in this world think that giving quarters to the salvation army at Christmas means they have done their part.

    But, you asked us which we thought was preferable according to us.  You obviously are for the good of your community before others. That is reasonable, you want your money to help others, but not to go too far. Some of us just feel who needs it most should have it first.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Starving children. : Ahhhh so you're one of those people. I bet you think anyone who makes more than a comfortable living should give their hard earned money away and live like the lowest class right?  Your posts seriously leave a bad taste in my mouth, I can't believe anyone who has access to the internet can be so ignorant and closed-minded.
    Posted by Belle2Be[/QUOTE]

    Hells NO!

    I said I was a libertarian.  I totally believe people earn what they make and should live the life they deserve. I just think if you do have the money, you should be aware of others who might be dying on the streets and babies born to crack moms. 

    I'm sorry if that makes me the ignorant one.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Starving children. : I actually see helping the people in my community as a higher priority than helping people, even in other provinces.  Why?  Because anything that benefits charities in my communities benefits my community.  Why wouldn't I want the kids living in my city to have proper nutrition?  Why wouldn't I donate money to my local children's hospital? I value the community and the people I live with.  I even tend to try as much as possible to shop locally.  I see far greater benefit to doing that than sending my money elsewhere.  Maybe I'm selfish, but why would I ignore the local problems in search of greater problems elsewhere?
    Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

    I like the idea that in 5-10 years I will be able to see the results of the money and time I donated to my community.  Maybe it's a little naive; I know there's corruption and inefficiency everywhere, but that idea is what causes me to support my local community instead of donating/volunteering for wider-reaching organizations.
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    [QUOTE]Moose opened a forum? Holy shiit.
    Posted by crfische[/QUOTE]

    OMG OFFBOARD!
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  • I feed my own kid and call it a day.

    Seriously, I know the moral thing to do is to donate to charity, but I have enough financial shiit on my own plate to start worrying about other peoples kids.  I know that's selfish, but oh well.

    As far as government aid goes, I think Canada should allocate a $$ amount to go to foreign aid, and once it's used up, too bad. 
  • Hey, no one tell Pirate about my dislike of the Salvation Army, cause that'll start something else...
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  • I like that this thread created an interesting discussion.

    And that Amysmomma appears to be a canuck.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
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    [QUOTE]I like that this thread created an interesting discussion. And that Amysmomma appears to be a canuck.
    Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

    Yes I am.  :)  I think I saw somewhere you're from Alberta?  I'm from Ontario.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Starving children. : Yes I am.  :)  I think I saw somewhere you're from Alberta?  I'm from Ontario.
    Posted by amysmomma[/QUOTE]


    Yup, I"m from Alberta.  Also, I may have already known that about you and forgotten.  There are clearly too many Canadians here if I can't remember who is who.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
  • Um, I'm from Buffalo? It's like almost-Canada, but without the free healthcare. It's an accident of birth that I was born on this side of the border! *cries* But I like Labatt Blue and Timbits, so does that count?
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    [QUOTE]Um, I'm from Buffalo? It's like almost-Canada, but without the free healthcare. It's an accident of birth that I was born on this side of the border! *cries* But I like Labatt Blue and Timbits, so does that count?
    Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

    Anyone who likes timbits is an honorary canadian in my book!  Welcome to Canada eh?
  • Also: hockey. I'm a big fan of hockey.
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  • Speaking of timbits and starving, there was a point in my life (not too long ago) where I could eat a box of 20 timbits to myself.  Ugh, you do not feel too good after that let me tell ya.

    But they're so darned delicious, the only flavour I don't like is plain.
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