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Re: booking a place without the ring?

  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:f3573a9f-10eb-4ac2-8fab-de8f42d0b714">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]I will never understand this. The world is full of great venues. Is one really SO MUCH BETTER ZOMBWTFBBQ that you MUST BOOK IT NOOOOOOOOWWWW? And how do you know if you haven't visited other places? Really? There is nowhere else that would work? NO OTHER DATE WOULD DO? I humbly suggest that if truly no other place or date will do, then your priorities are completely FUBAR, and you shouldn't be getting married or procreating. Also, I think if there were fewer BSC girls out there booking things before they're engaged, venues wouldn't book up so fast. It's a vicious cycle of insanity.
    Posted by desertsun[/QUOTE]<div>
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    </div><div>Wooooowwwwwwww....what crawled up your butt? FIRST of all, I don't know where it is where you live, but there aren't a million venues around me, especially that I can afford, and that you can bring your own alcohol, something important to us.  There are total about 5 possible venues around our church, and we'd prefer to not make our guests drive an hour. Also, we've been to most of the locations for other people's weddings, just not visited it ourselves.  AND it's not ONE date, it's the ENTIRE SPRING that is getting booked up.  

    NOT TO MENTION we are planning to get married and are just waiting on the ring to get crafted.  If you want to call that engaged,call it that.  This isn't 1950. If you think that just because I don't have a ring we can't possibly be engaged then maybe YOUR priorities are out of order.  </div><div>
    </div><div>We have a budget, a guest list, both our parents know and our best friends.  AND I decided not to book it anyway and to just let things happen, even though he really loves this place.  So get off your high horse. </div><div>

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  • heyimbrenheyimbren member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:6a00ebc8-7e67-41d2-9107-ac426bf442d8">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : Wooooowwwwwwww....what crawled up your butt? FIRST of all, I don't know where it is where you live, but there aren't a million venues around me, especially that I can afford, and that you can bring your own alcohol, something important to us.  There are total about 5 possible venues around our church, and we'd prefer to not make our guests drive an hour. Also, we've been to most of the locations for other people's weddings, just not visited it ourselves.  AND it's not ONE date, it's the ENTIRE SPRING that is getting booked up.   NOT TO MENTION we are planning to get married and are just waiting on the ring to get crafted.  If you want to call that engaged,call it that.  <strong>This isn't 1950. If you think that just because I don't have a ring we can't possibly be engaged then maybe YOUR priorities are out of order. </strong>  We have a budget, a guest list, both our parents know and our best friends.  <strong>AND I decided not to book it anyway and to just let things happen, even though he really loves this place.  So get off your high horse.</strong> 
    Posted by leslieherrel[/QUOTE]

    That isn't what Desert was saying- she never made a comment that you need a ring to be engaged.
    The point is that there are many things that can happen, and one venue is not the only one. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I didn't see Desert's comment as a direct comment to you, OP rather than the other comments that came up later.
  • peekaboo2011peekaboo2011 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:6a00ebc8-7e67-41d2-9107-ac426bf442d8">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : Wooooowwwwwwww....what crawled up your butt? FIRST of all, I don't know where it is where you live, but there aren't a million venues around me, especially that I can afford, and that you can bring your own alcohol, something important to us.  There are total about 5 possible venues around our church, and we'd prefer to not make our guests drive an hour. Also, we've been to most of the locations for other people's weddings, just not visited it ourselves.  AND it's not ONE date, it's the ENTIRE SPRING that is getting booked up.   NOT TO MENTION we are planning to get married and are just waiting on the ring to get crafted.  If you want to call that engaged,call it that.  This isn't 1950. If you think that just because I don't have a ring we can't possibly be engaged then maybe YOUR priorities are out of order.   We have a budget, a guest list, both our parents know and our best friends.  AND I decided not to book it anyway and to just let things happen, even though he really loves this place.  So get off your high horse. 
    Posted by leslieherrel[/QUOTE]

    <div>I don't think that was about you.  I think that was in reference to Kimberly, who's not engaged, isn't going to be engaged for a few more months, doesn't consider herself engaged and has booked all of her vendors.  Relax.  We get a lot of posters on here who are like "OMG IF I DON'T BOOK RIGHT NOW, I'LL NEVER GET MARRIED!!! AND HE HASN'T PROPOSED YET, BUT IT'S COMING!!!!"  And to that, we say, chill.  Don't book.  Don't put money down.  The same thing we told you.  Periodically we get the BSC people who book before being engaged.  And then we get worked up.</div>
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:6a00ebc8-7e67-41d2-9107-ac426bf442d8">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : Wooooowwwwwwww....what crawled up your butt? FIRST of all, I don't know where it is where you live, but there aren't a million venues around me, especially that I can afford, and that you can bring your own alcohol, something important to us.  There are total about 5 possible venues around our church, and we'd prefer to not make our guests drive an hour. Also, we've been to most of the locations for other people's weddings, just not visited it ourselves.  AND it's not ONE date, it's the ENTIRE SPRING that is getting booked up.   NOT TO MENTION we are planning to get married and are just waiting on the ring to get crafted.  If you want to call that engaged,call it that.  This isn't 1950. If you think that just because I don't have a ring we can't possibly be engaged then maybe YOUR priorities are out of order.   We have a budget, a guest list, both our parents know and our best friends.  AND I decided not to book it anyway and to just let things happen, even though he really loves this place.  So get off your high horse. 
    Posted by leslieherrel[/QUOTE]

    You make me want to pat you on the head and lay you down for a nap. And desert, correct me if I'm wrong, but leslie, her response was to the BSC that posted about already having her venue booked without being engaged.
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  • heyimbrenheyimbren member
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    edited December 2011
    I do think there is a lot of truth to what Desert said about it being a venue- it's a big part of the wedding, but the wedding will find a way to go on regardless.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:b7468a11-9a6a-499f-b6b2-6f59d3fdb658">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : You make me want to pat you on the head and lay you down for a nap. And desert, correct me if I'm wrong, but leslie, her response was to the BSC that posted about already having her venue booked without being engaged.
    Posted by AudgiePodge[/QUOTE]

    <div>lol. to be fair I DID say I have quite a high level of snark on occasion in my intro bio. ;)</div>
  • desertsundesertsun member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:6a00ebc8-7e67-41d2-9107-ac426bf442d8">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : Wooooowwwwwwww....what crawled up your butt? FIRST of all, I don't know where it is where you live, but there aren't a million venues around me, especially that I can afford, and that you can bring your own alcohol, something important to us.  There are total about 5 possible venues around our church, and we'd prefer to not make our guests drive an hour. Also, we've been to most of the locations for other people's weddings, just not visited it ourselves.  AND it's not ONE date, it's the ENTIRE SPRING that is getting booked up.   NOT TO MENTION we are planning to get married and are just waiting on the ring to get crafted.  If you want to call that engaged,call it that.  This isn't 1950. If you think that just because I don't have a ring we can't possibly be engaged then maybe YOUR priorities are out of order.   We have a budget, a guest list, both our parents know and our best friends.  AND I decided not to book it anyway and to just let things happen, even though he really loves this place.  So get off your high horse. 
    Posted by leslieherrel[/QUOTE]


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    ETA: By which ^^ I mean you're responding like a spoiled brat throwing a temper tantrum, completely refusing to consider what I said. You took it personally (though the other girls have it right and my comments were certainly not aimed at you specifically) and responded in a defensive and insulting way. It doesn't reflect well on you.
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  • edited December 2011
    Seriously? You are ridiculous. Why do people feel they have to have a specific month/season or even year. Calm you damn jets down, wtf is the rush?

    Wait let me guess, you want to start your lives together.... 

    and one more thing 


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  • SassyFlatsSassyFlats member
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    edited December 2011
    Wow, that spun around right quick.
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  • SKP82SKP82 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:3bd08cc2-1c8d-4be5-a734-f7f13df47822">booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Hi ladies, quick question for you all! I<u>'m with a wonderful, amazing guy and we're defintely on the marriage track. We've been ring shopping, and I happen to know that the ring is in the works</u> <strong> (THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE ENGAGED) </strong>(but takes at least 6 weeks to get hand crafted).  The actual proposal will be a surprise, but we're both 30 so it seems a little silly to expect the engagement to be a TOTAL surprise, right?
    Posted by leslieherrel[/QUOTE]

    Thanks guys, your advice was exactly what I needed! (Well, most of yours. Haha).  I guess I hadn't really considered the thought that engagement doesn't necessarily need a ring, so I guess you could say we're engaged without the ring.  <u>We do have a budget, a tentative guest list and all tha</u>t <strong>(THAT STILL DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE ENGAGED)</strong> but I think it's good advice for me to not get too sold on a place before I really explore--that spoke to me because I *might* have done things like that once or twice in my life.<div>
    </div><div><font face="Arial" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:13px;" class="Apple-style-span">After reading everyone's comments <u>I'm thinking I will wait for the ring and just figure it out from there</u><strong> (WHY WOULD THAT BE IF YOU WERE ENGAGED?)</strong>.  Now I<span style="text-decoration:underline;"> have to convince </span>BF that we don't need to book the place yet.  He has emailed me three times today about the venue and telling me to book an appointment...and he wants to come along. Go figure.  Ah! :)

    </span></font>In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_introduce-yourself-here?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:08787e48-8a3e-4792-8700-ef1d66b164fbPost:9cff8e21-2731-4581-8085-26b0ce03a312">Re: Introduce Yourself Here!</a>:
    [QUOTE]Age: 29 Significant Other's Age: 30 (31 in a couple weeks! bday present anxiety! :) ) What You Do: sales rep for premium, natural pet food and treat company What SO Does: insurance claims manager <u>State of Relationship: living together </u><strong>(IF YOU WERE ENGAGED, YOUR STATE OF RELATIONSHIP WOULD BE "ENGAGED") </strong>
    Posted by leslieherrel[/QUOTE]

    Sounds to me that you're NOT ENGAGED.  Do you call him your FI?  Not in these posts.  SO STOP PLANNING AND STOP YELLING AT THE GIRLS HERE WHO TELL YOU TO STOP PLANNING!

    ETA: TK posts are F*ed up. And my quotes are all messed up, too.
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:b7468a11-9a6a-499f-b6b2-6f59d3fdb658">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : You make me want to pat you on the head and lay you down for a nap. And desert, correct me if I'm wrong, but leslie, her response was to the BSC that posted about already having her venue booked without being engaged.
    Posted by AudgiePodge[/QUOTE]

    She makes me want to slap her and say "What the hell happened to this board???"

    The harsh words to the girls who were planning weddings but NEY is what made me realise I was being a complete dumbass and turn some sh!t around in my life.

    I'm not sure this "well, from what you say, it seems like you're engaged, so you can plan" stuff is healthy.

    Never ANYWHERE does she say that she and her BF agree that they are engaged.
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  • SKP82SKP82 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:70fff6fa-b55a-49ca-b780-27af722d7a68">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Honestly, it's not uncommon to book the place before the ring. My cousin did it. I did it. There are only so many Saturdays in July and they go quick. We booked the place, band, church, and photographer in February and I'm still not engaged. It's coming, but probably not until May or June. We just haven't announced anything to anyone with the exception of my two cousins (who recently got engaged) we told them the date and nothing else for fear that they would book their wedding on the same weekend as ours and that would be terrible for our family to have to "choose".
    Posted by Kimberly0402[/QUOTE]

    ZZZOMG!!  I'm not engaged (but we both definitely know we want to get married one day), and I'm not pregly (but I want to be ASAP after we get married), so I have booked the venue, reception hall, photographer (for the weeding [sic], and birth) and planned our weeding and baby showers (I don't want them to be on the same day so we can get more stuff)!  I have already bought the crib, diapers, and clothes and painted the baby room!!!  We can't wait!

















    Sounds crazy?  Because it is.
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  • SKP82SKP82 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:70fff6fa-b55a-49ca-b780-27af722d7a68">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Honestly, <strong>it's not uncommon to book the place before the ring. My cousin did it. I did it. </strong>There are only so many Saturdays in July and they go quick. We booked the place, band, church, and photographer in February and I'm still not engaged. It's coming, but probably not until May or June. We just haven't announced anything to anyone with the exception of my two cousins (who recently got engaged) we told them the date and nothing else for fear that they would book their wedding on the same weekend as ours and that would be terrible for our family to have to "choose".
    Posted by Kimberly0402[/QUOTE]

    Is it also not "uncommon" to book a photographer before being engaged?

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_july-2012-weddings_photog-budget?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:066005ef-215f-48b1-8655-328b41e07c52Discussion:776e5fd9-382a-4d1b-9fc6-2c82bd44ffc5Post:521a4c3e-b93f-485f-a47a-b776be4034a0">Re: PHOTOG budget</a>:
    [QUOTE]Our budget is $3000. The average photographer in our area runs roughly $4500-$5000. <strong>We booked out photographer for $2999 +tax.</strong> This includes 2 photgraphers for 8 hours, complete rights, engagement session, CD of all pics, and the 40 page wedding album.
    Posted by Kimberly0402[/QUOTE]

    Is it "uncommon" to have a wedding file before being engaged?

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_just-engaged-proposals_need-starting-planning-binder?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:683Discussion:60128fa1-4317-428e-9790-f3953ba1c7eePost:93c655e4-16ea-4e58-a529-20ee2df993ae">Re: Need help starting my planning binder</a>:
    [QUOTE]I have a system to my planning ( I'm a teacher and have to be over organized).<strong> I have a protable file box for ideas ext and then I have a Wedding Workbook my girlfriends got me to put everything that is booked/decided upon in. It has worked out wonderfully.</strong>
    Posted by Kimberly0402[/QUOTE]

    Or to pick a date before the engagement?

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_new-york-upstate_monday-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:124Discussion:93fd53b4-5d08-4c24-8d20-4afb6337f1a3Post:b02ccbac-863c-48a2-80f3-b109f6313124">Re: Monday Wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]<strong>We picked our date together. I picked the month, he picked the date.</strong>
    Posted by Kimberly0402[/QUOTE]

    What about deciding which address RSVPs should go?

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_new-york-upstate_reply-cards-should?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:124Discussion:393dbc35-49cb-468e-ba07-aaf0afd71efcPost:77556855-029f-49be-a1bd-b0fb2139942d">Re: Reply Cards - where should they go?</a>:
    [QUOTE]<strong>We will be using my mom's address as the RSVP address. </strong>While I am doing most of the planning, it is easier for us to have the RSVPs sent to mom.
    Posted by Kimberly0402[/QUOTE]

    Wow.  And you know where you're (maybe) honeymooning and you're not even engaged yet?

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_july-2012-weddings_honeymoonwhere-going?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:066005ef-215f-48b1-8655-328b41e07c52Discussion:30d29aaf-9f17-4944-9e42-b6c04f3d1e8aPost:189f11b9-6749-42d8-9812-74010de027d7">Re: Honeymoon...where are you going?</a>:
    [QUOTE]<strong>We are hoping to spend 10 days in Hawaii, but we are also looking into St. Thomas for a week</strong>. It will all depend on cost and whatnot.
    Posted by Kimberly0402[/QUOTE]

    *WHEW* Well thank <span style="text-decoration:underline;">GOD </span>you've been ring shopping, even though you "don't feel engaged yet."

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_just-engaged-proposals_ring-shopping-2?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:683Discussion:84939468-b20d-4b7b-ae97-f1af4e5ea263Post:2e981794-ccab-487d-b4fb-ed0998a0ce89">Re: Ring Shopping</a>:
    [QUOTE]<strong>My boyfriend and I are not yet engaged either. We have the date, reception site, band, photographer, and church booked, but we aren't engaged just yet. (Don't get me started.) </strong>We went out ring shopping to get an idea of what I wanted. It got to the point that I was harping on the ring, the ring, the ring. Now that I know that it's gonna happen and he knows what ring both he and I like, it's not that big of a deal. It'll happen when it happens. It might also have to do with the fact that we have the reception site ect already booked, but still. <strong>I don't feel really engaged yet.</strong>
    Posted by Kimberly0402[/QUOTE]

    Oh, gosh, I hope he's not just going along with it because you pressured him.

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_long-would-wait-proposal?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:86369a7a-f414-4048-8d41-39715ce58d05Post:5c327008-3bf6-42e4-9901-d1ad9d52b511">Re: How long would you wait for proposal?</a>:
    [QUOTE]My BF and I have been together for 3 years (today actually!) and we've already set a wedding date even though there hasn't been the official proposal. <strong>I was more antz when there wasn't anything going on, anything planned ect. Now that I know we are getting married next summer, I feel like it's less of an elephant in the room. I</strong>t'll happen when it happens.....
    Posted by Kimberly0402[/QUOTE]

    GOOD LUCK!!!!


    ETA: Sorry for all the posts back-to-back.  BF is out of town and I can't sleep when he's not here.  <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-frown.gif" border="0" alt="Frown" title="Frown" />
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  • peekaboo2011peekaboo2011 member
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    edited December 2011
    SKP, that's a whole crap ton of BSC.  I was going to quote you, but then realized that that would require a page to itself...

    Kimberly, whoever you are, CHILL THE EFF OUT.  You're an idiot.  And the facefloor kitty I posted, still applies.  It's people like you who make it a bajillion times harder for the engaged ones to find venues and such because you booked without being engaged.  Seriously, what if it doesn't happen?

    *headdeskheaddeskheaddeskheaddesk*

    Girls who aren't engaged should come talk to us before they do this nonsense.  This is out of control.
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  • edited December 2011
    Had a pretty awful, stressful day at work yesterday, and I do think I took this a little personally.  I reread today and decided I owed you an apology. Sorry! I probably shouldn't interact with people I don't know via the internet when I'm so cranky and stressed because it's so easy to get snippy. 
    You can still hate me if you want. :)
  • heyimbrenheyimbren member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:639045d0-77d5-4dcf-aabf-d2c09710a999">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : She makes me want to slap her and say "What the hell happened to this board???" The harsh words to the girls who were planning weddings but NEY is what made me realise I was being a complete dumbass and turn some sh!t around in my life.<strong> I'm not sure this "well, from what you say, it seems like you're engaged, so you can plan" stuff is healthy. </strong>Never ANYWHERE does she say that she and her BF agree that they are engaged.
    Posted by SKP82[/QUOTE]

    Some girls seem to think that if they don't have a ring then they aren't engaged yet, and post questions wondering if they can plan since he asked and she agreed, and they call each other FI but there isn't a ring on her finger yet. There is a fine line between engaged without a ring, and pre-planning before there's an actual engagement. And since no one on here knows which one a poster falls into, that perspective is often given as well.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:2e51e5ec-8a19-43cc-b268-24febb36d01d">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to booking a place without the ring? : Thanks guys, your advice was exactly what I needed! (Well, most of yours. Haha).  I guess I hadn't really considered the thought that engagement doesn't necessarily need a ring, so I guess you could say we're engaged without the ring.   We do have a budget, a tentative guest list and all tha t (THAT STILL DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE ENGAGED) but I think it's good advice for me to not get too sold on a place before I really explore--that spoke to me because I *might* have done things like that once or twice in my life. After reading everyone's comments I'm thinking I will wait for the ring and just figure it out from there (WHY WOULD THAT BE IF YOU WERE ENGAGED?) .  Now I have to convince BF that we don't need to book the place yet.  He has emailed me three times today about the venue and telling me to book an appointment...and he wants to come along. Go figure.  Ah! :) In Response to Re: Introduce Yourself Here! : Sounds to me that you're NOT ENGAGED.  Do you call him your FI?  Not in these posts.  SO STOP PLANNING AND STOP YELLING AT THE GIRLS HERE WHO TELL YOU TO STOP PLANNING! ETA: TK posts are F*ed up. And my quotes are all messed up, too.
    Posted by SKP82[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>Wow, you're thorough! Haha. I guess I'm going back and forth a little because even though BF (you're right, I don't call him my fiance) considers us engaged I have a hard time until I actually have a ring on my finger.  </div><div>
    </div><div>And I'm not yelling at alll the girls who tell me to stop planning! In fact I appreciated most of the responses on here--because ultimately if I don't feel a hundred percent sure that I should be planning yet, even if parents and BF are on board, I should wait.  And I feel good about that now. I was having a hard time deciding between logic and tradition (BF kept saying, the logical thing is to book the date etc etc), so I am choosing faith and the belief that everything will turn out how it's meant to.   </div><div>
    </div><div>And I apologized to Desert anyway.  I will readily admit that I suck sometimes,but I usually realize it pretty quickly. </div>
  • SKP82SKP82 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:65a84f7d-7381-4510-bfb9-4416d1074d11">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : Wow, you're thorough! Haha. I guess I'm going back and forth a little because even though BF (you're right, I don't call him my fiance) considers us engaged I have a hard time until I actually have a ring on my finger.   <strong>And I'm not yelling at alll the girls who tell me to stop planning!</strong> In fact I appreciated most of the responses on here--because ultimately if I don't feel a hundred percent sure that I should be planning yet, even if parents and BF are on board, I should wait.  And I feel good about that now. I was having a hard time deciding between logic and tradition (BF kept saying, the logical thing is to book the date etc etc), so I am choosing faith and the belief that everything will turn out how it's meant to.    And I apologized to Desert anyway.  <strong>I will readily admit that I suck sometimes,but I usually realize it pretty quickly. </strong>
    Posted by leslieherrel[/QUOTE]

    I was being a bit dramatic.  I know you weren't yelling.

    I'm glad that you've found a place that you're comfortable now. 

    Don't be so hard on yourself.  I'm sure you don't suck.  I think you handled yourself better than most who have been in your situation. 
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  • edited December 2011
    If a woman or man still wants to do a big formal proposal you are not engaged. You know why? Because he wouldn't have to ASK if you were already engaged. 

    Yes, you can get engaged without a ring, because ti was mutually agreed upon. Keeping it a secret (from anyone, FI, parents, friends, co-workers) and planning while continuing to expect some grand gesture to make it "official" means you are not engaged.

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  • jerseydeviljerseydevil member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:a71a0043-ae9e-41be-953b-f34307c1a76e">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]If a woman or man still wants to do a big formal proposal you are not engaged. You know why? Because he wouldn't have to ASK if you were already engaged.  Yes, you can get engaged without a ring, because ti was mutually agreed upon. Keeping it a secret (from anyone, FI, parents, friends, co-workers) and planning while continuing to expect some grand gesture to make it "official" means you are not engaged.
    Posted by SeaTea02[/QUOTE]

    This. So this.
  • Wrkn925Wrkn925 member
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    SKP:  Good job.  That's quite a few levels of crazy you unearthed.
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  • desertsundesertsun member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:273512a5-7273-4bc0-8497-62972ed2eab0">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Had a pretty awful, stressful day at work yesterday, and I do think I took this a little personally.  I reread today and decided I owed you an apology. Sorry! I probably shouldn't interact with people I don't know via the internet when I'm so cranky and stressed because it's so easy to get snippy.  You can still hate me if you want. :)
    Posted by leslieherrel[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>I don't hate you! I just thought you responded inappropriately. But I'm glad that after taking a step back, you can realize it and apologize. Apology accepted! </div><div>
    </div><div>I also hope you can realize that there were some good points made in this thread about why pre-planning can be unhealthy. And also why you should try to adopt an attitude now that focuses on getting married as being the most important thing about your wedding, not when, where, what photographer, the food, etc. Everything is negotiable EXCEPT actually getting married. Please trust me when I tell you that that kind of attitude will make your planning so much less stressful and so much more enjoyable. But for now, STOP planning and just enjoy this special time, b/c it will pass quickly and you can never get it back.</div><div>
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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:351e358f-43f5-4eb0-b2fa-3852ca8e0784">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : Is it also not "uncommon" to book a photographer before being engaged? In Response to Re: PHOTOG budget : Is it "uncommon" to have a wedding file before being engaged? In Response to Re: Need help starting my planning binder : Or to pick a date before the engagement? In Response to Re: Monday Wedding? : What about deciding which address RSVPs should go? In Response to Re: Reply Cards - where should they go? : Wow.  And you know where you're (maybe) honeymooning and you're not even engaged yet? In Response to Re: Honeymoon...where are you going? : *WHEW* Well thank GOD you've been ring shopping, even though you "don't feel engaged yet." In Response to Re: Ring Shopping : Oh, gosh, I hope he's not just going along with it because you pressured him. In Response to Re: How long would you wait for proposal? : GOOD LUCK!!!! ETA: Sorry for all the posts back-to-back.  BF is out of town and I can't sleep when he's not here. 
    Posted by SKP82[/QUOTE]

    Oh wow.  So she's basically sitting on TK all day planning her wedding.  Her BF probably doesn't even know about all of this.
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  • heyimbrenheyimbren member
    2500 Comments
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:1e5789f1-2087-42a1-8c3a-fe7ee8a86dbc">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : Oh wow.  So she's basically sitting on TK all day planning her wedding.  Her BF probably doesn't even know about all of this.
    Posted by ADTonk[/QUOTE]

    Pffffft, whatever!

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  • peekaboo2011peekaboo2011 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_booking-place-ring?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:94538209-ca48-40f1-a404-1d172be05986Post:648c8e0e-2ff5-4fd0-b64b-027a9bb1f006">Re: booking a place without the ring?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: booking a place without the ring? : Pffffft, whatever! Surprise weddings are the BEST!
    Posted by heyimbren[/QUOTE]

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