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Re: NWR...Restaurant tipping

  • edited July 2012
    We tip at least 20 percent of the grand total.  I will leave 15 if the service is bad.  I have very rarely left 10 percent.  I would never, ever not tip at all.  I would ask to speak to a manager and ask for a gift card or new food before I would just not tip.  This is probably my bleeding heart coming out, but servers have bad days, and they make their living on tips.  I just couldn't not tip, but here servers make $2.13 an hour. 
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  • I won't leave no tip if I plan on going back again.
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  • We start at 2025. We don't include tax because taxes here are about 220, I might be exagerating.
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  • In Response to Re:NWR...Restaurant tipping:[QUOTE]We start at 20 to 25percent. We don't include tax because taxes here are about 220 percent, I might be exagerating. Posted by HandBanana[/QUOTE]

    Fixed. Also, I am very aware of how busy it is. We used a Groupon and it was the last night before it expired. Of course the tiny restaraunt was packed but the service was amazing. We had to wait 45 minutes to get a table but the passed out appetizers and let us try wine while we waited, for free. On top of it, the couple next to us, also using a Groupon on the last night it expired started complaining to the waitress who had to get the owner. They were upset they had to wait 45 minutes for a table. I think they were also kind of drunk. That kind of stuff drives me nuts. Your server can only do so much.
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  • I wouldn't have left no tip if she was just not very good or forgot a few things, but she was EXTREMELY rude.  She did do several things wrong like not refilling waters and forgetting to bring our side dishes.  However, the kicker was when I very politely told her I thought I had been given the wrong dish (baked fish instead of fried), she actually YELLED that I had the right thing.  When I asked her to check with the cook about it, she snapped me the kitchen had run out of breadcrumbs, and that is why the fish looked odd.  (Later, after speaking to the manager, I learned that I was in fact served the wrong food.)  After this, she slammed everything down on the table and didn't speak to us.  Like I said, I've never not tipped before, so it has to be pretty extreme.  I can tolerate someone making a mistake at their job or forgetting something, but someone who is downright rude doesn't deserve a tip in my opinion.
  • I once left no tip.  I never got my beverage, despite asking for it SEVEN TIMES (and it just being water, so it's not like it was difficult or time consuming), she gave me the wrong food and insisted that's what I ordered, gave me a bill for the wrong food, "corrected" it incorrectly, argued with me about it being wrong still, and got pissed when I wouldn't just give her my card and trust her to change it before she ran it.

    When I asked her to speak to the manager, she said "I'm the closest thing to a manager we have here right now and there's nothing I can do for you."

    Yup, I haven't been back there.

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  • I usually tip 20% on the total, including tax (I never really thought about tipping pre-tax).  That's average, and I'll leave more if it was really excellent service, or less if it was really bad.

    I also try and leave more, like 25-30% if it was just a really low total.  Just because I'm cheap and only spent $7 on my meal doesn't mean the waiter didn't have to work at all, and I feel weird leaving $1.00 tip, at a real restaurant, you know?

    I've never not tipped, but I don't think I've ever had ridiculously absurd service before.  Usually the problems were because of an understaffed/busy kitchen, and therefore not the waiter's fault. 

    I have walked out of a couple restaurants in which it had been like 20 minutes and a server hadn't even stopped by to take a drink order.

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  • @J&K if she was a manager, which she seems to pretending to be then you didn't have to tip her, anyway.

    @monkey I walked out of a restaurant before I was even sat. Servers walked passed us as though we were invisible. For a good 5 minutes. No one came to greet us or anything. 
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  • Okay, I'll revise the "never, ever not tip" comment haha.  I tend to exagerate from time to time.  :)  I would consider not tipping if someone was truly rude and terrible.  It would have to be really bad, which some of these situations sound like they were.  I have left before being seated, too.  I've also left because it took so long for a server to come after being seated.
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  • We left once after ordering because we waited 45 minutes for our food.  It was breakfast at a Denny's, not very busy, and all I ordered was oatmeal!

    I can only recall one time that we didn't tip, but that was a case of an extremely rude waitress.  She spilled water all over all of us and never apologized, just threw a towel at us and said "here, clean it up."  We were all in shock over that one.  Accidents happen, sure, but to not apologize?
  • I really want to live in the Cook Islands where tipping is frowned upon and seen as an insult.
  • Swedes get really uncomfortable if you tip them. Granted, they don't do anything really worth tipping (they have better wages and days off and vacation time than most people in regular jobs in the US). But in general, in Europe, they don't expect or even need tips. We're totally out of the habit of tipping.
  • Total plus tax, and 20-30% depending on the service.
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  • I was a waitress for years and my husband is a waiter so this might color my experience, but I always tip at least 20% on the grand total; usually more at lunch or breakfast if the meal is under 10 dollars.   

    I've never had a service experience so bad that it justified completely stiffing the person, but maybe I've been lucky. I wouldn't object to someone stiffing a waiter who is outright rude or lies like the in examples above.  But even crappy service (long wait times, waiting for refills, etc.) are often not the server's fault and as long as I can tell that they're busy and doing the best they can I just let that go and still tip 20%.   

    It's really, really crappy to "not tip on drinks."  From a server's perspective, they try to build up checks because that's how you make your money.  If you choose to order a 200 dollar bottle of wine and then not tip on it, you just look like a cheapskate.  It's the same thing as saying "I'll only tip on the cost of a cheeseburger despite ordering the lobster because dropping off a plate is the same amount of work."   
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    [QUOTE]I was a waitress for years and my husband is a waiter so this might color my experience, but I always tip at least 20% on the grand total; usually more at lunch or breakfast if the meal is under 10 dollars.    I've never had a service experience so bad that it justified completely stiffing the person, but maybe I've been lucky. I wouldn't object to someone stiffing a waiter who is outright rude or lies like the in examples above.  But even crappy service (long wait times, waiting for refills, etc.) are often not the server's fault and as long as I can tell that they're busy and doing the best they can I just let that go and still tip 20%.    It's really, really crappy to "not tip on drinks."  From a server's perspective, they try to build up checks because that's how you make your money.  I<strong>f you choose to order a 200 dollar bottle of wine and then not tip on it, you just look like a cheapskate.</strong>  It's the same thing as saying "I'll only tip on the cost of a cheeseburger despite ordering the lobster because dropping off a plate is the same amount of work."   
    Posted by NOLAbridealmost[/QUOTE]

    <div>People do this?  </div><div>
    </div><div>I did ask in the past if people tipped less if they got expensive wine, but ultimately, H and I decided that if we can afford the $200 bottle of wine, we can afford the tip on that bottle (and you'd better believe that in general, when we order a nice bottle of wine, the service usually matches since the server is anticipating a pretty darned nice tip).  Because when you do the math, the difference between a meh tip and a good tip is a few dollars, and part of eating out is the decadence, so I don't see the point to trying to save money by tipping less.</div>
  • We usually tip 15-20%, more if it's breakfast or lunch or the bill was really low. Very rarely have I tipped less than that.

    We don't order $200 bottles of wine. In fact, we don''t usually order a bottle at all. H is not a huge wine fan, and romantic dinners out get less romantic when I drink the whole thing myself. However, if we did order expensive wine, we'd tip on it. I think it's silly not to.
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    [QUOTE]It's really, really crappy to "not tip on drinks."  From a server's perspective, they try to build up checks because that's how you make your money.  If you choose to order a 200 dollar bottle of wine and then not tip on it, you just look like a cheapskate.  It's the same thing as saying "I'll only tip on the cost of a cheeseburger despite ordering the lobster because dropping off a plate is the same amount of work."   
    Posted by NOLAbridealmost[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>Of course it's crappy from a server's perspective.  I'm not saying we do it, and we certainly never order $200 bottles of wine, but there are times we think about it.  It all comes down to the servers though, and if you are fantastic and friendly we go above 20% anyways.  But the whole "building up a check" thing pisses me off because it's basically like being in a store who works on commission and bugs the fvck out of you to buy more.  I waitressed for 6 years and never once tried to force more food on people to make more money.  And I get annoyed as hell when a server recommends or insists that the $40 bottle of pinot is much better than the $20 bottle.  

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NWR...Restaurant tipping : Of course it's crappy from a server's perspective.  I'm not saying we do it, and we certainly never order $200 bottles of wine, but there are times we think about it.  It all comes down to the server's though, and if you are fantastic and friendly we go above 20% anyways.  But the whole "building up a check" thing pisses me off because it's basically like being in a store who works on commission and bugs the fvck out of you to buy more.  I waitressed for 6 years and never once tried to force more food on people to make more money.  And I get annoyed as hell when a server recommends or insists that the $40 bottle of pinot is much better than the $20 bottle.  
    Posted by Beachy730[/QUOTE]

    <div>I agree.  I mean, it's one thing to offer the dessert menu after the end of the meal.  It's another thing when I feel like the server is judging me for not ordering the most expensive entree or wine on the menu.  There are times when the restaurant has been out of the wine or entree that I ordered, and the waiter recommended a much more expensive replacement, and I cringed inside.   Or when H and I already ordered two appetizers and two entrees, and the server asks if we want a salad too.  Um, your restaurant is already going to bring us a ridiculous amount of food, let's not become offensively gluttonous with our ordering.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NWR...Restaurant tipping : Of course it's crappy from a server's perspective.  I'm not saying we do it, and we certainly never order $200 bottles of wine, but there are times we think about it.  It all comes down to the server's though, and if you are fantastic and friendly we go above 20% anyways.  But the whole "building up a check" thing pisses me off because it's basically like being in a store who works on commission and bugs the fvck out of you to buy more.  I waitressed for 6 years and never once tried to force more food on people to make more money.  And I get annoyed as hell when a server recommends or insists that the $40 bottle of pinot is much better than the $20 bottle.  
    Posted by Beachy730[/QUOTE]

    <div>I agree with NOLA.  To think of not tipping on alcoholic beverages just because they're more expensive than soda is ridiculous and shitty.  Whether you order a $200 bottle of wine or a $40 bottle of wine, you're still ordering the wine and getting bottle service on it.  Which means that the server is opening the bottle, pouring the first taste to see if the bottle is to your liking and not off, and keeping your glasses poured throughout the night.  Opening and pouring the taste alone takes about 5 minutes depending on whether or not the guests have questions about the wine.  </div><div>
    </div><div>Also, your justification that alcoholic drinks are no more work than refilling a soda glass is equally ridiculous.  If you're ordering a drink, it's either coming from the bar or the server is making it themselves.  If it's coming from the bar, the bartender is spending time making your cocktail and the server is typically required by their management to "tip out" the bartender a percentage of their total tips at the end of the night.  So you not tipping because your cocktail is more expensive for what you see as not any more work is also just as shitty.  </div><div>
    </div><div>I hope at some point whatever you do for a living is subject to judgment and people are allowed to determine whether you should get paid for certain aspects of your job over others.  If you don't want to tip, don't go out to eat or go get fast food.  I'm sure the restaurant industry won't miss you. </div>
  • Also, servers are often required by their management to ask if you want to add things to your meal. If all they're doing is asking once or twice, what exactly is the harm? It's a business for a reason. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NWR...Restaurant tipping : I agree with NOLA.  To think of not tipping on alcoholic beverages just because they're more expensive than soda is ridiculous and shitty.  Whether you order a $200 bottle of wine or a $40 bottle of wine, you're still ordering the wine and getting bottle service on it.  Which means that the server is opening the bottle, pouring the first taste to see if the bottle is to your liking and not off, and keeping your glasses poured throughout the night.  Opening and pouring the taste alone takes about 5 minutes depending on whether or not the guests have questions about the wine.   Also, your justification that alcoholic drinks are no more work than refilling a soda glass is equally ridiculous.  If you're ordering a drink, it's either coming from the bar or the server is making it themselves.  If it's coming from the bar, the bartender is spending time making your cocktail and the server is typically required by their management to "tip out" the bartender a percentage of their total tips at the end of the night.  So you not tipping because your cocktail is more expensive for what you see as not any more work is also just as shitty.   I hope at some point whatever you do for a living is subject to judgment and people are allowed to determine whether you should get paid for certain aspects of your job over others.  If you don't want to tip, don't go out to eat or go get fast food.  I'm sure the restaurant industry won't miss you. 
    Posted by chirpchirp[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>So... what time does your waitressing shift start?</div><div>
    </div><div>And yes, if we're at a restaurant that charges $12 for martinis or some other tall amount, it kills me how much we spend on our bill in drinks.  But if we couldn't afford it then we wouldn't order them or go out to eat.  We know what we drink and we know what we are spending.  I already fvcking said I tip at least 20%.  But if $50 of our bill was drinks then I'm probably not going much above 20%.</div><div>
    </div><div>If you would calm the fvck down and read my posts I said I waitressed for 6 years.  I know exactly how it works.  And I don't think any server that I've ever had would say I'm cheap or not a good tipper.  So get off your high fvcking waitressing horse and calm down.  </div><div>
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    [QUOTE]we tip on the pre-tax total, and use 20% as a base point.  It will occassionally go down if the service sucked (but it has to be pretty particularly bad), we usually round up to an even dollar amount, and will go up even more if the server went above and beyond. <strong>I've always disliked the idea that a server in a nicer restaurant gets significantly larger tips than a server who does the same amount of work in a cheap restaurant just because the steak one brought you was more expensive than the burger the other brought you.</strong>  Especially since the waiter in the nicer restaurant is probably being paid more anyway.  But I've never really done anything to rectify it - the pressure of the social norm I suppose
    Posted by Kate61487[/QUOTE]

    <div>In my experience, this sort of works itself out by quantity.  I worked at a semi-upscale place for about 5 years, and made pretty good money.  I remember talking to a friend who worked at Chilis who made about the same, although my per person average was nearly double hers.  The difference was that she usually had a 5 table section, and her tables usually turned in less than an hour.  I usually had a 3-4 table section, and my tables were usually there for much longer.  I'm sure that's not the same for everyone, and I'm sure she'd have taken a much harder hit than I would on a slow night, but there is still some benefit to a less expensive place.  I think this is how people survive Waffle House.  The tips may only be $2 at a time, but you get a lot of them.  </div><div>
    </div><div>FWIW, I also found that most fine dining and super upscale places were much more selective about hiring.  You had to have a couple of years experience, be polished, have substantial wine and food knowledge, etc.  </div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NWR...Restaurant tipping : In my experience, this sort of works itself out by quantity.  I worked at a semi-upscale place for about 5 years, and made pretty good money.  I remember talking to a friend who worked at Chilis who made about the same, although my per person average was nearly double hers. <strong> The difference was that she usually had a 5 table section, and her tables usually turned in less than an hour.  I usually had a 3-4 table section, and my tables were usually there for much longer.  </strong>I'm sure that's not the same for everyone, and I'm sure she'd have taken a much harder hit than I would on a slow night, but there is still some benefit to a less expensive place.  I think this is how people survive Waffle House.  The tips may only be $2 at a time, but you get a lot of them.   FWIW, I also found that most fine dining and super upscale places were much more selective about hiring.  You had to have a couple of years experience, be polished, have substantial wine and food knowledge, etc.  
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    </div><div>I always take that into consideration too.  H and I rarely go to really nice places just the 2 of us, and we usually go with another couple or a group of people.  That leads into sitting around talking for longer, and I know that's less tables the server can get.  I take that into consideration no matter the caliber of the restaurant though.  If we sat for an extra half hour or whatever I know that it's another table that the server didn't get so I tip more.  

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  • LOLZ!  That was a good burn- asking what time my waitressing shift starts.  

    It's pretty apparent how you feel about servers considering you think that anyone who defends their work must be one.

    If you served for 6 years then I don't understand your attitude.  It wasn't a question of whether or not you could afford it- I don't give a shitt whether or not you can afford $12 martinis or the tip on them.  I said if you don't want to tip, don't go out to eat; I took issue with your attitude about it. If you tip 20% and then bittch about the deservedness of it I think it's pretty shitty.  

    I also don't understand how you think it's your server's responsibility that you're paying $12 for some vodka and vermouth.  I'm sure you don't think that they decide to charge you and only you that price for whatever you order, right? 

     
  • Yes, I absolutely think that the restaurants print out special menus for just when I walk in the door that doubles the price.  

    For fvcks sake, a tip is EARNED, not a guarantee.  The mentality that a server should automatically get a fantastic tip regardless of their service pisses me off to no end.  Yes I know they survive on tips, but that doesn't mean you deserve 20% or more just because you brought me my food. 

    I never said I don't want to tip, or that I don't.  The whole point is the ridiculous amount of upcharging a restaurant does for alcohol.  A bottle of wine thats $8 in the stores is at least $25 in a restaurant.  And God forbid you tell the waiter you want to the $25 bottle instead of the $50 bottle he offers you, because then they act like you just asked for fucking dishwater.  And if you're up my ass trying to force me to spend more money I'm going to get pissed and know you only care about how much money you're making off me.  

    When I waitressed I cared more about the people.  I would even tell people if they were probably ordering too much food for their table, or tell them the best deal for what they were ordering.  That is why I respect a server more for treating me like a person not just dollar signs.  
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  • Also, my point about the wine price affecting a tip still goes along with the quality of service.  If you just open the bottle and pour it, but then I always refill my own glass then that's no different than just handing me any other drink.  But you can be sure as shiiit those servers are usually there right away trying to bring you another bottle as soon as its empty.  If you're attentive though and pour more wine and actually pay attention to the table then you absolutely deserve more of a tip.  Again, it's all about earning the tip, not just "deserving" it.
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    [QUOTE]LOLZ!  That was a good burn- asking what time my waitressing shift starts.   It's pretty apparent how you feel about servers considering you think that anyone who defends their work must be one. If you served for 6 years then I don't understand your attitude.  It wasn't a question of whether or not you could afford it- I don't give a shitt whether or not you can afford $12 martinis or the tip on them.  I said if you don't want to tip, don't go out to eat; I took issue with your attitude about it.<strong> If you tip 20% and then bittch about the deservedness of it I think it's pretty shitty</strong>.   I also don't understand how you think it's your server's responsibility that you're paying $12 for some vodka and vermouth.  I'm sure you don't think that they decide to charge you and only you that price for whatever you order, right?   
    Posted by chirpchirp[/QUOTE]<div>So you're pissed if someone tips well but then biiitches about it later to someone else? I'm sorry, but that makes no sense. I can biiitch about what I want, even if I do tip well. It's not like beachy or someone would biiitch to the server about it. And no where did Beachy say that she doesn't tip at least 20%, just that she gets annoyed about it sometimes. Which, I would think, some people would agree with. Yes, the server doesn't set the prices and we all know that, but that doesn't mean someone can't get irritated by it after the fact. 

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    [QUOTE]Also, my point about the wine price affecting a tip still goes along with the quality of service.  If you just open the bottle and pour it, but then I always refill my own glass then that's no different than just handing me any other drink.  But you can be sure as shiiit those servers are usually there right away trying to bring you another bottle as soon as its empty.  If you're attentive though and pour more wine and actually pay attention to the table then you absolutely deserve more of a tip.  Again, it's all about earning the tip, not just "deserving" it.
    Posted by Beachy730[/QUOTE]

    <div>Well, for the sake of consistency, we're not in disagreement about whether or not a tip is earned.  If the service is terrible, by all means tip accordingly.  I never said a tip was automatically deserved and I don't have a problem with tipping a server less if they're shitty at their job or an asshole.  But that's a different conversation.</div><div>
    </div><div>What I disagreed with was you said that you tip 20%, meaning you thought that the server was deserving of a tip- especially one that is considered earned for giving excellent service.  So if you think the server did an excellent job, your point is kind of moot, right?  And if the server is being an asshole and treating you like you ordered dishwater for choosing the less expensive wine, how is that earning a good tip?  </div><div>
    </div><div>Regardless, I have to go get ready for my waitressing shift or something so we'll just say we feel differently about it.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NWR...Restaurant tipping : So you're pissed if someone tips well but then biiitches about it later to someone else? I'm sorry, but that makes no sense. I can biiitch about what I want, even if I do tip well. <strong>It's not like beachy or someone would biiitch to the server about it. And no where did Beachy say that she doesn't tip at least 20%, just that she gets annoyed about it sometimes.</strong> Which, I would think, some people would agree with. Yes, the server doesn't set the prices and we all know that, but that doesn't mean someone can't get irritated by it after the fact. 
    Posted by ggirl2001[/QUOTE]

    <div>Thanks for the insight- it's not like Beachy has been replying and able to expand upon what she meant in her original post.</div>
  • Because as a former waitress I have made 20% my standard for tipping.  If they do amazing I tip more.  If they do horrible I tip less.  So if they do their job they got what they see is a good tip.  I don't understand what's so bad about what I said.  If you treat me like shiiit (like side eyeing all the choices and what we spend) I'm probably going to tip you like 15-18%.  And if you sucked I'm not going to tip you 20% of a bottle of wine just becuase you set that on the table.  
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