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Advice Needed. Kind of Long. - NWR

So, FI has a 12 yr old daughter, J. She was born when he was a Junior in HS. His ex, S and J moved in with FI's family  and lived there for 6-8 months. S moved out with J when J was 6 months old, and moved back home. S's family is raising J to feel inferior to men. She can't speak unless spoken to. J is homeschooled, and will be until she "graduates" HS, and then will marry and have a family. No futher schooling for her.

FI has not seen J since they moved out. S sent pictures until J was 2. J thinks another man is her Father, so she has no idea that FI even exists.

FI pays Child Support, and has the entire time, so he's doing his part, legally at least. My question is: Should we fight for visitation? Or wait until J figures it out, and possibly contacts us?

FI's thinking: He doesn't want to fight now, and confuse or scare the shiit out of J, because, as I said, she doesn't know he exists. He's scared, and confused himself.

My thinking: If I found out someone who I thought was my Bio-Dad, wasn't, and that the man who WAS hadn't tried to contact me, I think I would hate everyone. I wouldn't want a relationship, and I would be so angry, and hurt. I don't want that for FI.

Our biggest problem is, that we can barely afford what we're paying now, and we're afraid that if he fights it, he'll end up having to pay more. We would fgure out a way to pay more, if that meant he could see her, obviously, but that's what FI says his is biggest deterrent. I think he's using it as an excuse.

He saw them today, in a Parking Lot he was driving through, and called me crying, saying he felt like he was having a Heart Attack. It breaks my heart to see him this way. I just don't know what to do for him.
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  • Why is he just now thinking about fighting for visitation? Just curious.

    I think he should say something. She needs to know that her father cares for her and has been supporting her the best way that he was able to given the restrictions his mother put on him. He should have done that long ago, but I think it is never too late to add another loving person to your life. 
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  • I think your FI needs to contact a lawyer.  It's not right for him to pay full child support and have no visitation rights, if he wants them. 

  • Wow.  What a mess.  It's not right that the daughter doesn't know FI exists.  Who does she think is her bio dad?  Is this person a real father figure in her life?  Why is FI paying CS with no visitaiton at all?  This child is going to have real issues when she learns the truth - and she will learn the truth someday.

    FI needs an attorney.  He might also need a therapist to help determine the best course of action now, if he really wants contact with his daughter.
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  • I could make all the excuses I want for why it's taken him this long to want to be involved. Her father is horrible, the kind of man that makes your skin crawl. S is a bad person. FI didn't have money, no one to support him, etc.. None of the excuses really matter, nor will they make a difference..

    FI is sort of a scaredy-cat for not pushing this issue as soon as S moved out, and sometimes I feel like I'm the bad guy, for pushing the issue with him. But I knew, the moment we got together, that I could be a Step-Mom to someone someday, so I guess I've just been waiting..
  • I'm going to say you should give more weight to KD's response, because she has been on the other side of things. 
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  • Well, KD makes a good point, which I wouldn't have through of myself, since I'm not a parent.  I do find it interesting that he knows so much about S's lifestyle, but hasn't initiated contact with the child (I'm not implicating anything, just saying).  Also, is he absolutely sure that this child is his?
  • CCF - Making an appointment with a laywer won't automatically mean he sees his daughter.  If he's curious about his options, it's a good idea to see what those options really are.  He doesn't have to act on them.
  • Oh, he had a DNA test done as soon as J was born. S cheated on him, with C, then man who J thinks is her biological dad.

    FI is definitely her dad, but S raised her thinking C was.
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    [QUOTE]Has he never fought for visitation rights, or are there other circumstances that led to him being completely cut off from his daughter? Has he consulted a lawyer about this at all?
    Posted by gottahavashorti[/QUOTE]

    That's what I was wondering. You can't really get much advice on here (besides whether or not he should talk to a lawyer) because what he really needs is legal advice.

    Family law isn't fun, it isn't pretty. But if he chooses to not make a decision, I feel that that is making one.
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    [QUOTE]I could make all the excuses I want for why it's taken him this long to want to be involved. Her father is horrible, the kind of man that makes your skin crawl. S is a bad person. FI didn't have money, no one to support him, etc.. None of the excuses really matter, nor will they make a difference.. <strong>FI is sort of a scaredy-cat for not pushing this issue as soon as S moved out, and sometimes I feel like I'm the bad guy, for pushing the issue with him. But I knew, the moment we got together, that I could be a Step-Mom to someone someday, so I guess I've just been waiting..</strong>
    Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

    Well, now, how much of this is FI wanting to see the daughter and how much is you pushing him towards this?
  • Honestly, I can't say what your FI should do.

    But what I do think you need to really consider is J. Not to be harsh, but how this will affect her, developmentally and at her age, is more important than your Fi's feelings of guilt. Once again, not to be harsh, but she is an innocent child, and the most imporant factor in this situation.

    I think you are looking out for you FI right now, because you love him and want him to be happy. You don't know this girl, and the information you are getting is through other people's eyes. I would obviously consult a lawyer, but also a family therapist if you seriously consider contacting her.

    If you do decide to become involved in her life, I would say that family therapy is a very good idea. I can't imagine how this girl will feel, but I think you need a capable professional helping all of you through it.

    I think your heart is in the right place, but this is a tough and complex situation.
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    [QUOTE]Wow.  What a mess.  It's not right that the daughter doesn't know FI exists.  Who does she think is her bio dad?  Is this person a real father figure in her life?  Why is FI paying CS with no visitaiton at all? <strong> This child is going to have real issues when she learns the truth - and she will learn the truth someday. FI needs an attorney.  He might also need a therapist to help determine the best course of action now, if he really wants contact with his daughter.
    </strong>Posted by LesPaul[/QUOTE]

    You added more while I was posting, but this too.

    This whole situation can easily cost a lot of money on your FI's part, on top of the child support he's already paying. Be prepared for that since you two are engaged and, presumably, planning a wedding.

    If he's worried about seeing her for the first time, that might not happen for a while. His first step will have to be seeing a lawyer to discuss the circumstances and best course of action.

    Things like this can take a while too. It'll be time consuming and emotionally/financially draining, most likely. I commend you for enouraging him to follow through on this, but it will be hard planning a wedding too.
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    [QUOTE]So, FI has a 12 yr old daughter, J. She was born when he was a Junior in HS. His ex, S and J moved in with FI's family  and lived there for 6-8 months. S moved out with J when J was 6 months old, and moved back home. S's family is raising J to feel inferior to men. She can't speak unless spoken to. J is homeschooled, and will be until she "graduates" HS, and then will marry and have a family. No futher schooling for her. FI has not seen J since they moved out. S sent pictures until J was 2. J thinks another man is her Father, so she has no idea that FI even exists. FI pays Child Support, and has the entire time, so he's doing his part, legally at least. My question is: Should we fight for visitation? Or wait until J figures it out, and possibly contacts us? FI's thinking: He doesn't want to fight now, and confuse or scare the shiit out of J, because, as I said, she doesn't know he exists. He's scared, and confused himself. My thinking: If I found out someone who I thought was my Bio-Dad, wasn't, and that the man who WAS hadn't tried to contact me, I think I would hate everyone. I wouldn't want a relationship, and I would be so angry, and hurt. I don't want that for FI. Our biggest problem is, that we can barely afford what we're paying now, and we're afraid that if he fights it, he'll end up having to pay more. We would fgure out a way to pay more, if that meant he could see her, obviously, but that's what FI says his is biggest deterrent.<strong> I think he's using it as an excuse. </strong>He saw them today, in a Parking Lot he was driving through, and called me crying, saying he felt like he was having a Heart Attack. It breaks my heart to see him this way. I just don't know what to do for him.
    <p>Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]</p><p> </p><p>It sounds like he's really scared about the whole thing, and, yes- I find it hard to believe that the biggest deterrent to initiating contact with his daughter is money (and when she is older, I'm sure she'd find that equally difficult to stomach).</p><p> </p><p>Other than supporting him and encouraging him to contact her, I'm not sure what you can do. Does he have mutual friends he can use to get the mother's details? Rather than automatically going to court to fight for visitation, he could contact her and explain that he'd like to see his daughter and see where that leads... it may be that she wants nothing to do with him which will leave mediation as the only option, but surely it's worth a shot (if money is truly the only thing stopping him...). </p><p> </p><p>How does he know that she's been raised that way if he hasn't had contact with her? *nevermind, I see you answered this one while I was writing a reply.</p>
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    [QUOTE]I could make all the excuses I want for why it's taken him this long to want to be involved. Her father is horrible, the kind of man that makes your skin crawl. S is a bad person. FI didn't have money, no one to support him, etc.. None of the excuses really matter, nor will they make a difference.. FI is sort of a scaredy-cat for not pushing this issue as soon as S moved out, and sometimes I feel like I'm the bad guy, for pushing the issue with him. <strong>But I knew, the moment we got together, that I could be a Step-Mom to someone someday, so I guess I've just been waiting..</strong>
    Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

    Gah, this thread is moving too fast for me to keep up!

    Realistically, you probably won't earn the title of step-mom for a long time, if ever. The girl is 12 now. It may take months-a year to finally have some sort of contact with her and your FI. Then he'll need to introduce you as well, which could be later on. Even then, at 12 years old she needs to get used to the idea that a complete stranger is her father. She could well be an adult by the time any real sort of familial relationship is established.
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    [QUOTE]I could make all the excuses I want for why it's taken him this long to want to be involved. Her father is horrible, the kind of man that makes your skin crawl. S is a bad person. FI didn't have money, no one to support him, etc.. None of the excuses really matter, nor will they make a difference.. FI is sort of a scaredy-cat for not pushing this issue as soon as S moved out, and sometimes I feel like I'm the bad guy, for pushing the issue with him. But I knew, the moment we got together, that I could be a Step-Mom to someone someday, so I guess I've just been waiting..
    Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

    I understand where you're coming from cupcake. This is just a hot spot for me. And I think you are just trying to make a right out of a wrong. And I respect you for this.

    My son's father left when I was 5 months pregnant, and made it clear he wanted nothing to do with me or my son. Three years later when he is forced to pay CS, he decides if he has to pay then he wants visitation. So starts the mess.
    After trying for custody and totally damaging my son along the way, he screws up one too many times with visitation, and my son hadn't seen him since he was 9.

    But we cant go back now. If you FI is so worried about this child's welfare, and plans to be there (not chickenshit out as you call it) I'd say call a lawyer, establish paternity and go for visitation with a therapist. But this process isn't going to be cheap be prepared. And Good luck to all concerned.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Advice Needed. Kind of Long. - NWR : Well, now, how much of this is FI wanting to see the daughter and how much is you pushing him towards this?
    Posted by NatesGirl16[/QUOTE]

    I honestly don't know. I'm trying to be as supportive as I can, either way. He says he wants to fight, but doesn't take any initiative to do so, such as seeing a lawyer.. I guess in a way, I'm sort of pushing him to do it. All I really want him to do, is see a lawyer. LIke you all said, he doesn't have to anything further than that, if he doesn't want to, or doesn't feel he's ready.

    I know I'm not going to get legal advice here. </p>
    <p>KD, I'll tell him what you said, about being on the other side, and that you think he should do something now.

    Basically, I think, if S won't let him see her, and it's not court-ordered of course, I don't think we should pay Child Support to someone who doesn't know he exists. I know how wrong that is, and of course we would never refuse, but I'm just saying.. It's frustrating.

    Nates, we have friends / acquaintances who let us know how they're doing when they see S and J. </p>
  • I think it would be a good idea to ask yourselves some questions.

    What do you hope to achieve from this?

    What obstacles do you anticipate?

    How far are you willing to fight?

    How involved do you want to be, if visitation is granted?

    If your goal is to get to know this girl, just realize she will be heartbroken when she finds out that her whole life has been a lie. I'm not saying that as a detterent, just be prepared that this is not good news to her.

    Do you want to change how she is being raised? It sounds like you do, which is commendable if she is indeed being brought up as an inferior to men.

    Just some questions to really consider. I sincerely hope you come to a resolution that works for all of you.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Advice Needed. Kind of Long. - NWR : I honestly don't know. I'm trying to be as supportive as I can, either way. He says he wants to fight, but doesn't take any initiative to do so, such as seeing a lawyer.. I guess in a way, I'm sort of pushing him to do it. All I really want him to do, is see a lawyer. LIke you all said, he doesn't have to anything further than that, if he doesn't want to, or doesn't feel he's ready. I know I'm not going to get legal advice here. KD, I'll tell him what you said, about being on the other side, and that you think he should do something now. Basically, I think, if S won't let him see her, and it's not court-ordered of course, I don't think we should pay Child Support to someone who doesn't know he exists. I know how wrong that is, and of course we would never refuse, but I'm just saying.. It's frustrating. Nates, we have friends / acquaintances who let us know how they're doing when they see S and J.
    Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

    Again, I think KD said it better than I probably will, but I'll try.  I do think you're being as supportive and involved as you can be and I think it's great that you are so willing to opn your life to a little girl you don't know.

    At the same time, just from what you're described and explained, it seems like you've been a major impetus in FI's interest in seeing his daughter.  I know you said that no one else has been supportive when he's thought about it in the past, but, to put it bluntly, if he wanted to see her, I don't think a few naysayers or a lack of support would have stopped him. 

    The only reason why I question motives (like do you want this more than he does?) is because of what other girls have pointed out.  Once he enters this kid's life, he can't back out.  It's a big commitment.

    I agree also that he should at least speak to a lawyer and get an idea of his rights, etc, before he does anything else.  And I think he should think on that information for a decent amount of time before (if) he decides to make contact with her.

    Good luck!
  • I grew up without my Dad around.  He paid child support, but I had never met him and had gotten exactly one card and one letter from him in my life.  I did research when I was 15, found him, and sent him an ultimatum - tell me he wants no part in my life, or step up.  It's the best thing I've ever done.  Now, nearly ten years later, I have the best relationship with my dad.  I can't imagine how that poor girl will feel when she finds out that her "dad" isn't her biological father.  She will find out one day, I'm sure.  She'll notice the child support checks or someday, when she sees her birth certificate, she'll know.

    I agree, if your FI wants, with starting written contact first.  She's going to be angry and upset (with him and with her mom/grandparents) at first.  It won't be easy.  I'll be the first person to admit that I didn't treat my dad the best at first.  I didn't know how to react to him, what to say to him.  It was hard.  I don't think I've ever quite forgotten the pain I felt while growing up, but I know unreservedly that he loves and and truly wants to be in my life.  That is the best feeling in the world.
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    [QUOTE]Basically, I think, if S won't let him see her, and it's not court-ordered of course, I don't think we should pay Child Support to someone who doesn't know he exists. I know how wrong that is, and of course we would never refuse, but I'm just saying.. It's frustrating.
    Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

    That is frustrating, but the courts (at least here in Ontario) never look at it that way. The judges do not see it that way, regardless of even how much money the mother makes. It's a losing argument, but I can understand why you feel he should see a lawyer about some contact with her, seeing as he is still legally responsible for her regarding CS.
  • We've basically stopped planning our wedding. My Grandmother was diagnosed with Breast Cancer, and I've been taking care of her a lot. She'll be starting chemo soon, and if that doesn't work, then FI and I will be having a backyard ceremony, to ensure she'll be there.

    We have established paternity, and for me, money isn't the issue. We're saving a lot by not getting married, as sad as that makes me, and I'd be willing to forgo a wedding if it meant getting closer to having a relationship with J, and making sure my Grandma will be there.

    And I didn't mean, Step-Mom in that way. I just meant, well, I guess I don't really know..

    I would take out loan after loan, and go bankrupt, if it meant FI would be happy, and content with his relationship with his daughter. Or lack of. I don't think he knows what he wants, and until he explicitly tells me, he doesn't want to do anything until she's 18, I'm going to continue to do everything I can to be supportive and openminded.
  • I don't know though, her situation sounds pretty horrid (from what you've heard/said) so she might have a more positive reaction. I'm imagining the 12 year old going "Wait, you mean this douch isn't my real dad? I'm saved!"
    I don't even know where to start with advice so I'll just let the other ladies give it. I can't even imagine being in your position right now.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Advice Needed. Kind of Long. - NWR : I honestly don't know. I'm trying to be as supportive as I can, either way. He says he wants to fight, but doesn't take any initiative to do so, such as seeing a lawyer.. I guess in a way, I'm sort of pushing him to do it. All I really want him to do, is see a lawyer. LIke you all said, he doesn't have to anything further than that, if he doesn't want to, or doesn't feel he's ready. I know I'm not going to get legal advice here. KD, I'll tell him what you said, about being on the other side, and that you think he should do something now. Basically, I think, if S won't let him see her, and it's not court-ordered of course, <strong>I don't think we should pay Child Support to </strong>someone who doesn't know he exists. I know how wrong that is, and of course we would never refuse, but I'm just saying.. It's frustrating. Nates, we have friends / acquaintances who let us know how they're doing when they see S and J.
    Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

    This is why in our state at least CS and visitation are separate. A custodial parent cant hold visitation over the other non-custodial parents head if they are not paying. And he will continue to pay because he is legally obligated unless he signs over his rights. And the fact that he hasn't pressed for visitation is on him which no court would have denied him. So this is on him, and he has to be the one to do this, if he starts this process then backs out the real loser is this poor child. Think about that, because that's the bottom line here.
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  • Cupcake- I'm so sorry about your grandmother. You've certainly got a lot of stress right now. :( It sounds to me that you are doing everything you can to be supportive, and I think that is enough. The ball is in his court, so to speak, because you will help him in whatever he chooses.

    I think the worst possible thing would be for you FI to contact her, and then not step up.(not saying he would do this, but this is why he needs to be sure.)
     I think she would feel terribly betrayed by her parents, and then rejected by her biological father.
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    [QUOTE]Cupcake- I'm so sorry about your grandmother. You've certainly got a lot of stress right now. :( It sounds to me that you are doing everything you can to be supportive, and I think that is enough. The ball is in his court, so to speak, because you will help him in whatever he chooses. I think the worst possible thing would be for you FI to contact her, and then not step up.(not saying he would do this, but this is why he needs to be sure.)  I think she would feel terribly betrayed by her parents, and then rejected by her biological father.
    Posted by jasmineh7777[/QUOTE]
    All of this.

    And I'm so sorry to hear about your grandmother.  I know you mentioned some family issues in the past regarding your wedding.  I hope everything works out for you guys, and as quickly as possible.
  • He would DEFINITELY step up. There would be no way he would start the process, and then back out. He's not the kind of guy, and I wouldn't let him be, no matter how scared he got.

    We (sort of) celebrate Father's Day, and we acknowledge her Birthday every year. He wants to be a Dad, so bad. He can't wait for us to have kids, because he missed out on a lot. I think he feels kind of like a dead-beat, because he hasn't fought for her.

    KD, I don't really know how to explain how I feel about it CS / Visitation. I'm not biologically a mother, although I raised my two younger brothers, so my thinking is a little skewed.

    And yes, I want to get her out of that situation more than anything. She needs to know, she can be whatever she wants to be, and she can be more than who they're allowed / forcing her to be. I've never met them, and I hate them for doing that to her.

  • I may get flamed for this... but I think its unfair to the child for him to step in now. Clearly he knows her situation. Its her daughter. If her circumstances are so bad I dont understand how he could have stayed silent for TEN YEARS. However.. I have to wonder if he only thinks its that bad. I couldnt read every post here so maybe u explained this. How does he know her circumstances when he hasn't seen her at all in a decade?! She has parents who have cared for her. While the care doesn't sound like the most positive experience from what you've said- how do you guys even know that is all true? Isn't it incredibly damaging now to confuse her and tear apart the life she knows just to ease his own conscious?

    I am really really not trying to be mean. I just think that if he decides to step in to make himself happy ... he really should consider what he will be doing to her sense of her own world. He's going to blow it wide open.... He's had ten years...

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  • Cupcake, I really think that a counselor or even a religious figure, if you are religious, could give you some guidance. Perhaps, that could be your first step before you contact a lawyer?

    It sounds like your FI has some feelings of his own that he needs to sort out. Whether or not you contact her, he could probably use some help and guidance. It also sounds like you are being very level headed about everything. That's very commendable considering everything you are dealing with. Your FI is lucky to be marrying such a strong woman.
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  • This is a horrible situation to be in. I have two older half brothers (my dad's kids) and one lived with us when I was young and one lived with his mom. My mom pushed my dad to take a more active approach in the situation with both of my brothers for their sake since their mom was horrible (to say the least). He didn't he was scared, lazy and didn't want to spend more money on the situation. He ended up paying thousands of dollars is some crazy back child support law suit and my brother that lived with his mom has had a ROUGH life. I have always felt if my dad had just stepped up and been a better dad or at least tried to change the situation, my brothers would have had way different lives. It was hard on us, my dad lives with tons of regret and my brothers barely have what resembles a life.

    I think that before he starts with lawyers and court proceeding he should seek some kind of counseling and decide what he wants to accomplish with the whole situation. If he finds that he really is interested and can handle being in her life then he should move forward with trying to see her. He should really be sure before he causes waves in the kid’s life.

  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_advice-needed-kind-of-long-nwr?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:d49d3852-405e-4040-9934-acccb06662a1Post:2e9e7e13-20cc-4ff0-8053-fe4869a49211">Re: Advice Needed. Kind of Long. - NWR</a>:
    [QUOTE]JI just know, fighting will not up his support, that is based on his income. 
    <p>Posted by playtnteppg27[/QUOTE]</p><p> </p><p>This is probably a good point- isn't child support based on income alone? Here, it is- but obviously I live in a different country so I have no clue if it is the same there!</p>
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