Patriots and scoreboard "error"?

chelseamb11 · January 2012

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Has anyone heard about this? When that last kick of the game happened for the Ravens (that was missed), the scoreboard was messed up, which caused him to rush. He knows he messed up the kick and he takes responsibility for it, but he also feels like the scoreboard contributed to it. They have verified that the scoreboard was indeed off for that entire set of downs. Now there are people theorizing that it was done on purpose to mess him up, because it apparently isn't the first time the Patriots have messed with stuff on their home turf.

Obviously at this point, unless there is something written or a conversation that was recorded, there's no way to prove someone intentionally messed with the board. Plus it's not like they can do a re-kick. What do you think should be done in a situation where it could be proven? Should the Patriots as a whole team have to forefeit? Or just the people involved? What if the operator did it on his own accord to help the team?

Idk how I feel about it at all.

beckyboo27 · January 2012

I heard about this. I've been very disappointed in the officiating this season. Roger Goodell needs to get off his ass and hire some new officials, because the ones the NFL has now SUCK!

dumdumfroggie · January 2012

How exactly do the downs being wrong effect your kicking or cause you to rush? That would be caused by the time being wrong.

Regardless of whether this happened or not, it's just dumb.

GeauxTigers17 · January 2012

dumdum, I assume she means the scoreboard's clock was off? Otherwise, no idea.

froggatt.clare · January 2012

If the scoreboard was off for the entire set of downs then surely he would have seen it beforehand. Soreboards should not have any affect on doing your job correctly.

froggatt.clare · January 2012

I agree dumbdumb, there have been a sh!tton of craptastic calls this season. Someone needs to improve ref training camp.

beckyboo27 · January 2012

I can see if the play clock was wrong, because if you don't snap the ball before the play clock hits zero, you get a delay of game and give the other team extra yards. If the game clock was wrong, I'm not sure how that would work.

Rosie109 · January 2012

He needed more time to warm up. Our coach SHOULD have called a time out to give Cundiff more time to prepare. So yeah.

[Deleted User] · January 2012

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[QUOTE]Should the Patriots as a whole team have to forefeit?
Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]
Pfft, you gotta be kidding me. *I* knew what down it is. If these highly paid coaches couldn't keep track, they deserve to lose.

I have no beef with the Ravens, and thought they played a great game overall, but gimme a break. This is sour grapes.

hatters gonna hat

chumlee7478 · January 2012

The officiating as a whole has been atrocious this season. The 49s/Giants game was a mess too.

If he rushed of his own accord, that's his problem. If it was intentionally off, that makes an entire organization look like a bunch of cheaters, and I'm a huge Pats fan. It would be a disgrace to say the least.

If the clock had been off for a series of downs (or more) why didn't the Ravens coach bring it up to the officials? He's got sets of eyes on the clock, it could have been caught long before the last kick.

allisong23 · January 2012

Please, they are professional football players. They knew what down it was. And there are a ton of other ways to see what down it is besides the scoreboard.

GeauxTigers17 · January 2012

The link isn't working for me - he is saying the fact that he didn't know what DOWN it was messed him up? How does that affect your kick? You know what you have to do to kick it whether it's 1st down or 4th, what would change about that?

whonamesthemselvessnippybetches · January 2012

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[QUOTE]CLICK HERE FOR LINK Has anyone heard about this? When that last kick of the game happened for the Ravens (that was missed), the scoreboard was messed up, which caused him to rush. He knows he messed up the kick and he takes responsibility for it, but he also feels like the scoreboard contributed to it. They have verified that the scoreboard was indeed off for that entire set of downs. Now there are people theorizing that it was done on purpose to mess him up, because it apparently isn't the first time the Patriots have messed with stuff on their home turf. Obviously at this point, unless there is something written or a conversation that was recorded, there's no way to prove someone intentionally messed with the board. Plus it's not like they can do a re-kick. What do you think should be done in a situation where it could be proven? Should the Patriots as a whole team have to forefeit? Or just the people involved? What if the operator did it on his own accord to help the team? Idk how I feel about it at all.
Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

Didn't you get flamed not too long ago for continuously posting about articles? Doesn't seem like you've slowed that one down.

allisong23 · January 2012

From what I understand, it wasn't the clock, The downs were off on the scoreboard (marked that it was 1st down, not 2nd, then 3rd, not 4th).

beckyboo27 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]The officiating as a whole has been atrocious this season. The 49s/Giants game was a mess too.[/QUOTE]

<div>Yep! I'm not a fan of either team, but the officiating on that game was garbage!</div>

froggatt.clare · January 2012

I can see the clock being an issue, but not knowing what DOWN it was? What down do you normally kick field goals during, dude?

froggatt.clare · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Patriots and scoreboard "error"? : Didn't you get flamed not too long ago for continuously posting about articles? Doesn't seem like you've slowed that one down.
Posted by whonamesthemselvessnippybetches[/QUOTE]

Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine today?

annakb8 · January 2012

It's just a football game. I don't think anything should be done. Well maybe they should fire the scoreboard guy if he was taking bribes or something, but other than that it would be silly to replay a whole game for this. And I'm a big football fan too, I just wouldn't want to go though all the hooplah to redo a game that was already over. Shiit happens, get over it.

juliebug1997 · January 2012

I haven't read the article but I think she means that play clock was off--the 25 seconds that they have from the time the referee blows his whistle until it hits zero (they have to get a play off in 25 seconds).

allisong23 · January 2012

He is a kicker,and his team was down by 3 points at the end of the game. He knew what down it was, and if he didn't, it is his own damn fault.

dumdumfroggie · January 2012

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[QUOTE]The link isn't working for me - he is saying the fact that he didn't know what DOWN it was messed him up? How does that affect your kick? You know what you have to do to kick it whether it's 1st down or 4th, what would change about that?
Posted by GeauxTigers17[/QUOTE]

<div>Exactly, which is why I don't understand the thing. Knowing what down it is doesn't affect how much time is left on the play clock. </div><div>
</div><div>I don't like the Patriots, but this whole thing is ridiculous and whiny.</div>

MattsPenguin · January 2012

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[QUOTE]Also, I agree with Rosie. I think they should have called a TO. People need time to prepare for things. And the FG was huge.
Posted by crfb87[/QUOTE]

Isn't that a clock management issue and why you KEEP a time out at the end of the game? (or attempt to. I'm talking to YOU Wisconsin!)

EDITED: I mean time out not field goal. DUH! Idiot.

chelseamb11 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Patriots and scoreboard "error"? : Didn't you get flamed not too long ago for continuously posting about articles? Doesn't seem like you've slowed that one down.
Posted by whonamesthemselvessnippybetches[/QUOTE]

And who are you? I didn't realize going from 2-3/week down to 1/week wasn't slowing down.

Bubbalub · January 2012

Dude, it's a game. Shiit happens. If Cundiff was cofused because he thought he had one more down during which he could warm up then it was his fault or the fault of the special teams staff that should be keeping better track of those things. No, the Pats should not have to forfeit. That is ridiculous. People make mistakes. It happens.

Now, if you want to talk about the shitty refs in international soccer, that's something I could get on board with.Teams have goals taken away from them after the fact due to shitty refs. And soccer doesn't use instant replay. I like it that way because it would just slow the game down to have to stop everything so the ref could go watch a replay, but it puts a lot of pressure on the refs to make the right call. And oftentimes they just don't. But it's all part of the game.

MattsPenguin · January 2012

So if it weren't for clock management, you'd be all over it? I would have thought it would be the long hours and constant stress.

[Deleted User] · January 2012

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[QUOTE]He is a kicker,and his team was down by 3 points at the end of the game. He knew what down it was, and if he didn't, it is his own damn fault.
Posted by allisong23[/QUOTE]
This. And furthermore, when a game is close, especially in the 2nd half, I usually see kickers warming up well before 3rd or 4th down. Dude should've been ready to GO, and he was wandering around the sidelines in sweats during the series. Less than a minute to go, down by 3, in the championship game, that's just preposterous.

beckyboo27 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Patriots and scoreboard "error"? : Isn't that a clock management issue and why you KEEP a time out at the end of the game? (or attempt to. I'm talking to YOU Wisconsin!) EDITED: I mean time out not field goal. DUH! Idiot.
Posted by MattsPenguin[/QUOTE]

<div>Poor clock management will kill a team in the end. A lot of coaches need to take a class on that. If I were the commish, I'd make it mandatory before every training camp. That's just me though... ;)</div>

FutureMrsTR · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Patriots and scoreboard "error"? : And who are you? I didn't realize going from 2-3/week down to 1/week wasn't slowing down.
Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

Are you counting?

froggatt.clare · January 2012

I'm sorry for the subject change (not that sorry, otherwise I wouldn't do it), but what's the big deal that Chels likes to post articles and talk about them? Its a discussion forum. If you don't want to participate in them, then don't. What's the big deal?

chelseamb11 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Patriots and scoreboard "error"? : Are you counting?
Posted by FutureMrsTR[/QUOTE]

Yep. I keep a journal of every time I post a news story, date, time, and how much of a discussion it got.

froggatt.clare · January 2012

Exactly. Why was the kicker NOT warming up the entire posession in a 3-point game?

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