Can we talk about veils again???

butterflyjumper1 · March 2012

So I think I have decided on a really long veil....I really want one, especially for picture opportunities, so who cares if it seems a little excessive???

Question 1: My dress has a chapel length train. Do I get a chapel length veil? Or a cathedral length veil, so the veil would be longer than the dress train?

Question 2: Blusher or multiple levels on a chapel or cathedral length veil....yes or no? I can't really decide on this one....

ceglare4 · March 2012

What is a chapel length train or veil? What's the difference between that and cathedral?

colleenm18 · March 2012

I am not a fan of blushers at all so my vote would be bo blusher. I am also unsure of the difference between chapel and cathedral length

BmoreBride311 · March 2012

Cathedral is longer than chapel (essentially b/c cathedrals are larger than chapels).

I think you can do either. It would depend on the style of your dress and if the veil has lace or other designs on it that you want to show off. If it does, than you'd be better off with cathedral. Can you PIP your dress please?

bridetobe71412 · March 2012

Yes, if you PIP your dress, it'll be easier to help!

butterflyjumper1 · March 2012

here is a photo to show the difference between the lengths:

butterflyjumper1 · March 2012

dress:

butterflyjumper1 · March 2012

I am just planning on a simple tulle veil, no beading or lace or rhinestones, but with a ribbon going around the edge of the veil. I want it to be soft and floaty without being too much of a distraction from the dress (if that makse sense)....

Thanks for your help ladies sorry to be such a PW today

ajmom2two · March 2012

Chapel length falls to the floor and cathedral trails behind is my understanding. Here is a link the explains all the different veil types (Clicky). I LOVE the cathedral length veils so I say go for it. I am not into the blushers personally but sometimes they look really pretty. Sorry...not super helpful!

bridetobe71412 · March 2012

I'm the dissenting opinion here. I LOVE blushers - the photos with them are so fantastic, and you can push them back almost immediately, so why not?

With your dress, my vote is for cathedral length with blusher. If you go chapel, it may not be that visible because your dress has more volume at the bottom. I would do cathedral so that it shows behind your dress.

BmoreBride311 · March 2012

Love your dress! I agree that with that kind of train on your dress, you need cathedral length if you are going long.

butterflyjumper1 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]I'm the dissenting opinion here. I LOVE blushers - the photos with them are so fantastic, and you can push them back almost immediately, so why not? With your dress, my vote is for cathedral length with blusher. If you go chapel, it may not be that visible because your dress has more volume at the bottom. I would do cathedral so that it shows behind your dress.
Posted by bridetobe71412[/QUOTE]

This is exactly what my initial thought was too...it would be gorgeous for the veil to be visible on the floor behind the edge of the dress train. I just don't want it to be "too much!"

I am 100% torn on the blusher issue! I don't necessarily hate them and I know they would make for good photos, but it looks kind of strange to me to have one super short layer to go over my face that when pushed back is miles shorter than the rest of the veil...so I am just not sure!

colleenm18 · March 2012

Yes I agree with Bridetobe- I would go with the cathedral length since you have volume at the bottom of your dress!

ceglare4 · March 2012

I would do cathedral too, because your dress has a lot going on in the skirt, so I think a very simply veil like what you've described would get lost.

I am not a fan of blushers either, so I'd say no to that.

bells24412 · March 2012

My dress doesn't have a train, and I ended up going with a fingertip veil so I may not be of much help....
so i guess i would have to go with cathedral also to go with your dress.

bridetobe71412 · March 2012

Googled for image of cathedral with blusher pushed back: http://pics.classifieds.weddingbee.com/43922.veil2.jpg

I think it looks totally fine.

FWIW, I'm doing fingertip length with blusher, blusher doesn't have any embellishment whatsoever, but the fingertip length is like you're thinking - with a very, very thin ivory satin trim. The blusher will be shorter than the fingertip length when it's pushed back.

toddysnipes · March 2012

Butterfly jumper,

I am new here but Yippee!!!! We are getting married on the same day and I am trying to decide on the same thing. I have actually decided to do a two-tier cathedral. The issus is where to buy without spending too much. Help anyone?

BmoreBride311 · March 2012

Yeah, I think the blusher looks fine, especially if you have a light weight veil. I think you just need to think about if you want to have a veil over your face when you're walking down the aisle. If you don't, then I don't really think there is a reason to have a blusher.

butterflyjumper1 · March 2012

It is so much fun to talk to all of you guys about this. I tried to talk to my dad, and to a few of my friends, about veil opinions, and they basically all just said "what the hell is a blusher, and why does it matter how long your veil is?"

Yay for TK friends and our detail-oriented wedding discussions

My fiance told me he would love if it I wore one of those little birdcage veils...while I think they look awesome on some people, I think it would look RIDICULOUS on me (and I am already having my dress converted into a one-shoulder strap dress for him because that is what my fiance told me he prefers on me), so he is just going to have to live with my dramatic cathedral length veil

ceglare4 · March 2012

I like the look of the blusher pulled back, but I don't like the way it looks over your face. That would drive me totally insane. But if you do go with a blusher, I would definitely get a very thin one like on the picture that bridetobe posted.

ceglare4 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]I actually think the blusher would look good - back, like ceglare says, as I also don't like them in front - with your dress, because it'd give more volume to the veil. That would help balance out the volume of your dress. I think either length would work with your dress, but try the cathedral length first for reasons stated above. I also think that the cost of veils is generally a total ripoff. (Specialized item, etc.) The people on the Attire board list a few places where they've bought non-crazy-expensive veils from time to time. Those threads are easy to find in a search.
Posted by Schatzi13[/QUOTE]

I completely agree with you on this! It's essentially a comb with some gathered tulle sewn into it. My grandma made my aunt's cathedral length veil for her wedding and it was beautiful. I can't imagine how much it would've cost had she bought it in a store. My mom was contemplating making one for me too when I was having a hard time finding one that I liked.

bridetobe71412 · March 2012

From what I understand, blushers are only down for like, all of 1 min while you're walking down the aisle. . . . Right? I don't think I've ever seen anyone keep them in front for anything else -- other than some staged pictures beforehand.

Do people really wear them in front for longer than that? If so, I would understand why people have an issue with them being in their face. This is honestly a question - I really don't mean it to come off as b*tchy/defensive!

ceglare4 · March 2012

I thought that they stay in front of your face for the entire ceremony. I think that your dad might move it up to give you a kiss on the cheek when he gives you away, but then he puts it back down. I think the groom is the one that lifts it and pushes it back for good when he kisses you at the end of the ceremony.

ETA: although you can do whatever you want too. If you want it there just for walking down the aisle, have whomever gives you away push it back for the rest of the ceremony. I'm trying to remember what Kate Middleton did for her wedding...

butterflyjumper1 · March 2012

I always thought that you only wore it over your face for walking down the aisle (and obv for staged pictures), then whoever is giving you away pulls it away from your face and puts it behind you....at least this is the discussion I had with my mom when we were takling about blushers??

BmoreBride311 · March 2012

Yeah, I also thought your dad (or whoever is "giving you away") lifts your blusher off you after you get to the front of the church. But yeah, you can do it however you want... I think kind of anything goes these days.

Butterfly, I forget, is your ceremony in a church? I think of blushers as more formal, so they seem more common in church weddings, but of course you can have one in any setting. I'm just curious!

butterflyjumper1 · March 2012

Yes, our ceremony is in my church. It is where my parents got married

It is a very formal sanctuary so I think the long veil and the blusher will fit in well with the formality of everything

butterflyjumper1 · March 2012

sidenote: Thinking about my dad walking me down the aisle of our church and lifting a blusher off of my face just made me burst into tears. sorry for giving this thread ADD.

bridetobe71412 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]I always thought that you only wore it over your face for walking down the aisle (and obv for staged pictures), then whoever is giving you away pulls it away from your face and puts it behind you....at least this is the discussion I had with my mom when we were takling about blushers??
Posted by butterflyjumper1[/QUOTE]

That's what I was told, too. But I can see how some people would want it to be in place until the "You may now kiss the bride" or whatever the wording is. I was always under the impression the person "giving you away" removes it. I don't think either is right or wrong, it's personal preference. In any event, my mom will be pushing it back for me after she walks me down the aisle and it will not be replaced over my face. I think. Now I'm confused!

ceglare4 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Can we talk about veils again??? : That's what I was told, too. But I can see how some people would want it to be in place until the "You may now kiss the bride" or whatever the wording is. I was always under the impression the person "giving you away" removes it. I don't think either is right or wrong, it's personal preference. In any event, my mom will be pushing it back for me after she walks me down the aisle and it will not be replaced over my face. I think. Now I'm confused!
Posted by bridetobe71412[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't know what's the "right" or "wrong" way, if there is one, but if I were wearing a blusher, I would definitely do this, rather than have it cover my face for the whole ceremony. This way seems much better.

ceglare4 · March 2012

And now that I really think about it, Kate definitely didn't have the veil covering her face for the entire ceremony. I would've remembered if she did because they walked all over and it wasn't covering her face. Sorry for the royal wedding ref, that's the only wedding I've ever seen where the bride had a blusher!

BmoreBride311 · March 2012

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[QUOTE]sidenote: Thinking about my dad walking me down the aisle of our church and lifting a blusher off of my face just made me burst into tears. sorry for giving this thread ADD.
Posted by butterflyjumper1[/QUOTE]

Ha funny you should say that. I just read this thread (<a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_ceremony-ideas_how-do-you-not-cry_.1" target="_blank">clicky</a>) and it made me tear it up. What am I going to do at my wedding...??

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