'Gay Marriage'

SugarFoote · June 2012

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[QUOTE]Just because someone's born a certain way doesn't mean I have to agree with it - that's just silly and completely irrelevant actually.
Posted by jenningz[/QUOTE]

Actually no its not irrelevant. Why would you disagree with something a person couldn't help?

SugarFoote · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 'Gay Marriage' : I'm going to ignore the rest of your post because that wasn't part of my question, at all. <strong>So if you can just decide that you aren't attracted to the opposite sex that means any one of us could do that at any time? Is that what you're saying? That I could just decide tomorrow that I like women? </strong>
Posted by mrandmrsbrist[/QUOTE]

A question for a question. I asked you several, you didn't feel the need to answer so therefore I feel zero need to answer yours :)

cwill6212 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]Equal rights by all means ... but did you miss the memo from 1 Corithians ?
Posted by GunzNRoses213[/QUOTE]

No, I didn't miss the memo from I Cor. Did you miss the scripture in Matthew that said "Do not judge, or you too will be judged..." (Matt 7:1) or the one in John that said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..." (John 8:7)<strong> </strong>

I feel it isn't my place to judge someone based on their sexual orientation or skin color or religion or the career path they choose. We will all have to answer to God for our sin and indiscretions on the day of judgment... I don't see why people feel that the gay community has to answer to judgment now based on the lifestyle they lead.

cwill6212 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]I don't think anyone's trying to say that homosexuality isn't a sin. The point I'm trying to make is that we all are born with a sinful nature, and it's not our place to judge. I really struggle with the whole honor mother and father thing, but that doesn't mean I'm not (or shouldn't be) welcome in a church. Others struggle with using inappropriate language, or modesty, or pride etc. It seems that those struggles are acceptable, but osexuality automatically means rejection. 1 Corinth. tells us that it's wrong, but it doesn't tell us to turn our backs. Just stating facts, not telling us what others who don't sin that way what they should do about it. What we ARE told to do by the Bible is to love God and our neighbor.
Posted by ochemjenn[/QUOTE]

Totally agree...

mrandmrsbrist · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 'Gay Marriage' : A question for a question. I asked you several, you didn't feel the need to answer so therefore I feel zero need to answer yours :)
Posted by SugarFoote[/QUOTE]

Haha, alright. Whatevs. It didn't sound like anyone was going to be changing your mind, anyway.

SugarFoote · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 'Gay Marriage' : Haha, alright. Whatevs. It didn't sound like anyone was going to be changing your mind, anyway.
Posted by mrandmrsbrist[/QUOTE]

lol I don't think my mind is only one not being changed. But like you said, "whatevs".

jenningz · June 2012

*chuckles*

RyansBelovedBride · June 2012

I came late to all this and only read like the first dozen responses but I thought I'd put my thoughts out there.

I grew up in a small, rural Bible Belt town where I saw gay people truly hated on by so called Christians, so I befriended them because I thought loving them trumped their sins. I wasn't sure where I came down on it being a sin because I had only sort of studied the Bible, on my own, and so I was wishy washy and quiet about it.

My freshman year of college I joined FLAG (Friends of Lesbians and Gays) and really did have several gay friends and heard their side of the story. I also however joined a wonderful Bible Study and started having a deeper relationship with God.

God himself drew my opinions in line with His Truth, and illuminated the subject of homosexuality for me. I saw it in the light of Romans 1, and realized without a doubt homosexuality was a sin, and I didn't join FLAG again sophomore year.

I was still friends with several gay people, and didn't want to judge or hate on them for their sin, but I also couldn't deny God's truth. I tried to be loving and a friend and take a Biblical stance, but they wouldn't allow that. I never publically announced my convictions, but I had several private and respectful conversations, and I think word spread through the campus gay community and the next thing I knew they avoided me.

What I discovered was that members of the gay community would not let it be a nuetral issue between us (ie I'll be your friend, but I don't approve of you having sex with other women.) Instead it was "accept my lifestyle or obviously you hate me." This was sad, but a pattern I have seen repeated and entrenched. Honestly, it didn't have to be that way, because I did have friends whose lifestyle I ddn't approve of who I remained very close with even though they knew I disapproved of some of their choices (ie we're friends but I don't approve of the fact you're living with your boyfriend).

One thing I discovered from friendships and conversations with bi and homosexual people is very few of them are born that way, but some are. This doesn't surprise me though, because all humans are born with a sinful nature.

I also think the whole issue is a SEXUAL one, not a CIVIL RIGHTS one. Do I believe one woman can love another woman or one man can love another man intensley and as strongly as a man can love a woman or vice versa? Heck yeah. Don't you think the 12 disciples loved Jesus? I know I ADORE some of my girl friends. But the issue is NOT love, like so many homosexual rights groups claim (God is love, so he'd have no issue with any form of it) but instead it's about lust and sexuality. And because it's a sexual issue, I believe that children should not be exposed to the concept of homosexuality before they're taught about normal sexuality. When I moved to my Bible Belt town I was 7, and where I came from I'd never heard of homosexuality. Every other kid in my class had (primarily from Christian parents speaking against it) and I noticed a disproportionate amount of same sex sexual experimentation in high school then the estimated national average. This is a sexual issue, and should be treated that way, and not foisted on children.

I have more I could say, but this is long. As a Christian community, I think we have failed to show love and compassion to homosexuals, but also, I think that no matter the love and compassion shown something about either homosexuality or culture propagated by their community (I'm not sure which) makes a lack of accept= lack of love in their eyes. So there is only so much a Biblical Christian can do. I still care about my homosexual friends of the past, but we haven't stayed in touch.

loves2shop4shoes · June 2012

I lurk on this board quite a bit, and I had to put my thoughts out there.

Homosexuality is NOT a choice. You can't choose who you're attracted to. You CAN choose whether or not to be sexual with a person you're attracted to, but you can't help if you find them attractive. It's a personal preference. Some guys like blondes; some guys like brunettes. And some guys like guys. That's just how it is.

The only "choice" a homosexual, or any person, has is whether
to be open about his/her sexuality and whether or not to be sexually active.

Also, since homosexuals are BORN with these preferences, do you really think God would create someone with sexual preferences that, if acted upon, would be sinful (even in the confines of marriage)?

Also, I think the government should not legislate according to what any religion believes. Everyone has basic human rights (like the right to marry, procreate, pursue happiness, etc.) The government has absolutely no right to tell two people they can't marry because the Bible says it's wrong.

mrandmrsbrist · June 2012

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[QUOTE]I lurk on this board quite a bit, and I had to put my thoughts out there. Homosexuality is NOT a choice. You can't choose who you're attracted to. You CAN choose whether or not to be sexual with a person you're attracted to, but you can't help if you find them attractive. It's a personal preference. Some guys like blondes; some guys like brunettes. And some guys like guys. That's just how it is. The only "choice" a homosexual, or any person, has is whether to be open about his/her sexuality and whether or not to be sexually active. Also, since homosexuals are BORN with these preferences, do you really think God would create someone with sexual preferences that, if acted upon, would be sinful (even in the confines of marriage)? Also, I think the government should not legislate according to what any religion believes. Everyone has basic human rights (like the right to marry, procreate, pursue happiness, etc.) The government has absolutely no right to tell two people they can't marry because the Bible says it's wrong.
Posted by loves2shop4shoes[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>You are so much more eloquent than I am.

</div>

agape1cor813 · June 2012

OK, I have been trying to stay out of things like this save for one post, but I've seen this thread devolve into something ugly.

Please stop sniping at each other. We've had problems like this before, and for a time we were doing so well with being respectful. I care about you all.

runpipparun · June 2012

I truly do feel that, just as we now we slavery as evil and indefensible (despite the MANY mentions of it in the Bible), we will one day look at the persecution of and discrimination against gays and lesbians as evil and indefensible. You can say that it is different all you want, but the truth is, it's not. People prior to and during the Civil War used the Bible to defend their rights to use black slave labor on their farms, just as people now use the Bible to defend their rights to discriminate against people who have a different sexual orientation. Some very racist people in small pockets of the country still use the Bible to defend their negative opinions of people who are of different races from their own.

I say it again. The Bible is an acient text that is not meant to be read literally and applied to modern times as such --- morally, civilly, or judgicially. God gave us brains, people. Considering that the Bible is a tiny sampling of everything that was written so long ago, and has been translated and re-translated and mis-translated and re-translated again, we would be fools to take it as THE ONLY TRUTH WORD-FOR-WORD, without questioning and opening ourselves to the possibility that God might speak to us in other ways more relevant to the times we live in now, in the troubles and challenges we face now that the Israelites could never even imagined. What we should remember is that Jesus was kind, gentle, forgiving, passive, generous, moderate in his behavior, and yes, kind of a socialist hippie...

BMcLeodTeam · June 2012

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[QUOTE]I believe it is a sin, but I also believe that all sin is equal. So my lack of control over my tounge is no different than their gay lifestyle. As for them not seeing it as a sin...it's the same thing as me recognizing that my lack of control over my tounge is a sin and my neighbor not realizing it. We're both still sinners. And while I believe it's a sin, I live in a country where freedom and rights are granted to all. I don't agree with the government making laws based on my religious beliefs. Separation of church and state is just fine with me and I prefer it stayed that way. If they want to get married, I think they should be able to do that. I also believe they were born that way. Just like I was born with a sin nature, so were they. I struggle with things you don't necessarily struggle with and they struggle with things (like homosexuality) that neither of us struggle with. The bible is pretty clear about us all being born with a sin nature.
Posted by mrandmrsbrist[/QUOTE]

I want to cosign this in its entirity!

naomikb · June 2012

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[QUOTE]OK, I have been trying to stay out of things like this save for one post, but I've seen this thread devolve into something ugly. Please stop sniping at each other. We've had problems like this before, and for a time we were doing so well with being respectful. I care about you all.
Posted by agape1cor813[/QUOTE]
FWIW I don't see this as sniping. I see this as a pretty interesting discussion between people with differing opinions on one (very controversial) subject. Anyone could have told you from the OP that this thread would initiate conversation. Personally, I'm glad it did - it's good to see other peoples' opinions and viewpoints, particularly those that aren't my own and try to understand where people come from and how they develop their opinions. That is what I like about this board.

naomikb · June 2012

Also, I'd like to add this. After watching Milk this weeked it just totally rings true for me.

daffydillie · June 2012

I read a few of these posts and I am going to drop my thoughts here.

"The State has already redefined marriage by taking it over. Marriage was once a religious institution. Now it's an instrument used to tax and regulate our social behavior..." A quote that resonates with me when I think of gay marriage, polygomy, etc.

From a legal standpoint, I do not support any state sanctioned marriage. Everyone, regardless of their lifestyle, should be allowed to live their lives as they so choose as long as they do not infringe of someone else's rights.

As far as the church, I feel that marriage is a commitment between two people. God does not make mistakes. And if a person was born that way and has made peace with God, why should I argue with their belief system? I feel that it is a congregation and the clergy's decision if they honor gay marriage, or any marriage at all for that matter. If Adam and Steve get married, it does not make my marriage any less full of faith and love.

runpipparun · June 2012

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[QUOTE]Also, I'd like to add this. After watching Milk this weeked it just totally rings true for me.
Posted by naomikb[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>My point exactly.

</div>

runpipparun · June 2012

PS - Why does this board get tons of action, when as Christians, we are supposed to be stewards of the God's creation, and the Eco-Friendly Wedding board gets NO action? More Christians should be concerned about what they SHOULD be doing but fail to do, rather than telling others what they are doing wrong.

mrandmrsbrist · June 2012

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[QUOTE]PS - Why does this board get tons of action, when as Christians, we are supposed to be stewards of the God's creation, and the Eco-Friendly Wedding board gets NO action? More Christians should be concerned about what they SHOULD be doing but fail to do, rather than telling others what they are doing wrong.
Posted by runpipparun[/QUOTE]

<div>...what? This board gets action because a ton of people plan Christian Weddings. The Eco-Friendly Wedding board gets no action because that's a strange place for a bunch of people to hang out. And I didn't even know there was an Eco-Friendly Wedding board....</div>

fpaemp2011 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 'Gay Marriage' : ...what? This board gets action because a ton of people plan Christian Weddings. The Eco-Friendly Wedding board gets no action because that's a strange place for a bunch of people to hang out. And I didn't even know there was an Eco-Friendly Wedding board....
Posted by mrandmrsbrist[/QUOTE]
Yep. And you said it much better than the O.o I was going to contribute.

jenningz · June 2012

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[QUOTE]I came late to all this and only read like the first dozen responses but I thought I'd put my thoughts out there. I grew up in a small, rural Bible Belt town where I saw gay people truly hated on by so called Christians, so I befriended them because I thought loving them trumped their sins. I wasn't sure where I came down on it being a sin because I had only sort of studied the Bible, on my own, and so I was wishy washy and quiet about it. My freshman year of college I joined FLAG (Friends of Lesbians and Gays) and really did have several gay friends and heard their side of the story. I also however joined a wonderful Bible Study and started having a deeper relationship with God. God himself drew my opinions in line with His Truth, and illuminated the subject of homosexuality for me. I saw it in the light of Romans 1, and realized without a doubt homosexuality was a sin, and I didn't join FLAG again sophomore year. I was still friends with several gay people, and didn't want to judge or hate on them for their sin, but I also couldn't deny God's truth. I tried to be loving and a friend and take a Biblical stance, but they wouldn't allow that. I never publically announced my convictions, but I had several private and respectful conversations, and I think word spread through the campus gay community and the next thing I knew they avoided me. What I discovered was that members of the gay community would not let it be a nuetral issue between us (ie I'll be your friend, but I don't approve of you having sex with other women.) Instead it was "accept my lifestyle or obviously you hate me." This was sad, but a pattern I have seen repeated and entrenched. Honestly, it didn't have to be that way, because I did have friends whose lifestyle I ddn't approve of who I remained very close with even though they knew I disapproved of some of their choices (ie we're friends but I don't approve of the fact you're living with your boyfriend). One thing I discovered from friendships and conversations with bi and homosexual people is very few of them are born that way, but some are. This doesn't surprise me though, because all humans are born with a sinful nature. I also think the whole issue is a SEXUAL one, not a CIVIL RIGHTS one. Do I believe one woman can love another woman or one man can love another man intensley and as strongly as a man can love a woman or vice versa? Heck yeah. Don't you think the 12 disciples loved Jesus? I know I ADORE some of my girl friends. But the issue is NOT love, like so many homosexual rights groups claim (God is love, so he'd have no issue with any form of it) but instead it's about lust and sexuality. And because it's a sexual issue, I believe that children should not be exposed to the concept of homosexuality before they're taught about normal sexuality. When I moved to my Bible Belt town I was 7, and where I came from I'd never heard of homosexuality. Every other kid in my class had (primarily from Christian parents speaking against it) and I noticed a disproportionate amount of same sex sexual experimentation in high school then the estimated national average. This is a sexual issue, and should be treated that way, and not foisted on children. I have more I could say, but this is long. As a Christian community, I think we have failed to show love and compassion to homosexuals, but also, I think that no matter the love and compassion shown something about either homosexuality or culture propagated by their community (I'm not sure which) makes a lack of accept= lack of love in their eyes. So there is only so much a Biblical Christian can do. I still care about my homosexual friends of the past, but we haven't stayed in touch.
Posted by RyansBelovedBride[/QUOTE]

This is fab, go girl! Like I said earlier, there are a proportion that are born that way.... but there are a whole lot of people these days who just decide to be gay for the thrills.

GunzNRoses213 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 'Gay Marriage' : No, I didn't miss the memo from I Cor. Did you miss the scripture in Matthew that said "Do not judge, or you too will be judged..." (Matt 7:1) or the one in John that said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..." (John 8:7) I feel it isn't my place to judge someone based on their sexual orientation or skin color or religion or the career path they choose. We will all have to answer to God for our sin and indiscretions on the day of judgment... I don't see why people feel that the gay community has to answer to judgment now based on the lifestyle they lead.
Posted by cwill6212[/QUOTE]

I never said I judge them ... As Christians we are told to alert others of what is sinful are we not ? NOT in a judmental way .

I have gay friends... I do not judge them at all ..... It's simple scripture... I didnt write it ...

GunzNRoses213 · June 2012

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[QUOTE]I truly do feel that, just as we now we slavery as evil and indefensible (despite the MANY mentions of it in the Bible), we will one day look at the persecution of and discrimination against gays and lesbians as evil and indefensible. You can say that it is different all you want, but the truth is, it's not. People prior to and during the Civil War used the Bible to defend their rights to use black slave labor on their farms, just as people now use the Bible to defend their rights to discriminate against people who have a different sexual orientation. Some very racist people in small pockets of the country still use the Bible to defend their negative opinions of people who are of different races from their own. I say it again. The Bible is an acient text that is not meant to be read literally and applied to modern times as such --- morally, civilly, or judgicially. God gave us brains, people. Considering that the Bible is a tiny sampling of everything that was written so long ago, and has been translated and re-translated and mis-translated and re-translated again, we would be fools to take it as THE ONLY TRUTH WORD-FOR-WORD, without questioning and opening ourselves to the possibility that God might speak to us in other ways more relevant to the times we live in now, in the troubles and challenges we face now that the Israelites could never even imagined. What we should remember is that Jesus was kind, gentle, forgiving, passive, generous, moderate in his behavior, and yes, kind of a socialist hippie...
Posted by runpipparun[/QUOTE]

I pretty much disagree here... There was a post earlier on how to interpret the New/Old Test and the laws and procedures etc...

runpipparun · June 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 'Gay Marriage' : I pretty much disagree here... There was a post earlier on how to interpret the New/Old Test and the laws and procedures etc...
Posted by GunzNRoses213[/QUOTE]

<div>Way to make a point by point argument. Tremendous. Defend the way man used Scripture to deny human rights to African Americans and how that is different from today. Or how the KKK views interracial relationships in light of the Bible. I would say that is a "moral" argument derived from the Bible. Would you like to take that one on? Are you going to tell me I cannot date an Asian man? Or a black man? Or a Latino man? There is a documentary called "The Bible Tells Me So." Perhaps you should watch it.</div>

runpipparun · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_gay-marriage?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:4ecaee0f-373a-4133-8b57-0e8dc6579b65Post:752fdc41-1574-4fd3-bc87-41e0c3d6740a">Re: 'Gay Marriage'</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 'Gay Marriage' : ...what? This board gets action because a ton of people plan Christian Weddings. The Eco-Friendly Wedding board gets no action because that's a strange place for a bunch of people to hang out. And I didn't even know there was an Eco-Friendly Wedding board....
Posted by mrandmrsbrist[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Oh. My. Gosh. You missed my entire point, which goes to show how lost we are as a faith. God calls us to take care of his creation, and as human beings, the only sentient species on the planet, we do nothing to take care of it for the coming generations. We do not live moderate lives. We are wasteful. What is it going to be like for our great-great-great grandchildren? Weddings are at the TOP of the list of waste, when you consider the flowers that get shipped from other countries, the out-of-season food that gets shipped in, the travel of guests, the ridiculous light displays, the decorations that get thrown away, the gems that are mined out of the earth causing tons of waste. It's one of the WORST industries there is in terms of ridiculous wastefulness, considering they are one day parties. If we are good Christians, we ought to be looking for ways to cut down on the footprint our weddings will leave. Considering this board gets SOOOOO much action from "Christians," why are there not more of us finding our way over to Eco-Friendly board in an attempt to figure out what we can do to protect God's creation from the harm this industry does to it EVERY SINGLE DAY. For the love of all that is Holy.</div><div>
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DramaGeek · June 2012

I think part of the reason the eco-friendly board doesn't get much action is that 1) it's pretty well hidden - most of those theme boards are extremely slow - and 2) all those questions also fit into other categories. We already have a flowers board, so people ask about that stuff there. We have an attire board, so things get asked there. Plus, in trying to be eco-friendly, a lot of things are going to be location specific (which flowers to use, places to shop for pre-owned garments, etc) making an international board pretty pointless.

However, I agree that we abuse our earth. H and I have argued with his parents time and time again over their use of gas. Doesn't make a difference though. According to them, only liberals worry about the earth. MIL told us once that God would never have created an earth without enough resources to support us all until the end.

GunzNRoses213 · June 2012

OK i disagree with taking parts of the bible and not others..

I'm not going to get into the race thing because honestly I dont see how it has any bearing on the Gay thing ... To me the only thing similar is that it was at one time controversial ... Other then that I dont understand why it's being brought up ... And no i'm not racist by any means and would never say people of one race cant marry another the entire US is full of races being mixed....

I'm honestly trying to understand how people are taking parts of scripture to defend and walk around scripture stating against gays/homosexuals... Honestly it just does not make sense to me at all ...

DramaGeek · June 2012

The reason interracial marriage is relevant is because people used the Bible to prove that it was immora when the US was dealing with segregation. I'll have to do some research to find the passages that were used in that way...hold please!

SugarFoote · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_gay-marriage?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:4ecaee0f-373a-4133-8b57-0e8dc6579b65Post:ae3c8047-610a-4d11-8779-b220eb54b8b8">Re: 'Gay Marriage'</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 'Gay Marriage' : Oh. My. Gosh. You missed my entire point, which goes to show how lost we are as a faith. God calls us to take care of his creation, and as human beings, the only sentient species on the planet, we do nothing to take care of it for the coming generations. We do not live moderate lives. We are wasteful. What is it going to be like for our great-great-great grandchildren? Weddings are at the TOP of the list of waste, when you consider the flowers that get shipped from other countries, the out-of-season food that gets shipped in, the travel of guests, the ridiculous light displays, the decorations that get thrown away, the gems that are mined out of the earth causing tons of waste. It's one of the WORST industries there is in terms of ridiculous wastefulness, considering they are one day parties. If we are good Christians, we ought to be looking for ways to cut down on the footprint our weddings will leave. Considering this board gets SOOOOO much action from "Christians," why are there not more of us finding our way over to Eco-Friendly board in an attempt to figure out what we can do to protect God's creation from the harm this industry does to it EVERY SINGLE DAY. For the love of all that is Holy.
Posted by runpipparun[/QUOTE]

I am on the Christian wedding board because I am Christian who is marrying a Christian.

Going to the Eco-Friendly Board isn't going to help me. How do you suppose I fix the world's "footprint"? Attack people who don't recycle? I didn't even know that was a board. And as a Christian, MY calling is help guide people to Christ...not a recycle bin.

SugarFoote · June 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_gay-marriage?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:4ecaee0f-373a-4133-8b57-0e8dc6579b65Post:212b21d0-4b94-4fee-a3ca-6576c116c2bc">Re: 'Gay Marriage'</a>:
[QUOTE]OK i disagree with taking parts of the bible and not others.. I'm not going to get into the race thing because honestly I dont see how it has any bearing on the Gay thing ... To me the only thing similar is that it was at one time controversial ... Other then that I dont understand why it's being brought up ... And no i'm not racist by any means and would never say people of one race cant marry another the entire US is full of races being mixed.... I'm honestly trying to understand how people are taking parts of scripture to defend and walk around scripture stating against gays/homosexuals... Honestly it just does not make sense to me at all ...
Posted by GunzNRoses213[/QUOTE]

I think we share a brain lol :)

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