Unpopular Opinions

GreenPepperBurger · August 2011

I see this on SB a lot, and it always turns into a juicy thread. Anyone up for a potential controversy? I need distraction from homework.

GreenPepperBurger · August 2011

Speaking of religion, I believe that the word "God" should be removed from our currency and from the Pledge of Allegiance. I say this not because I am a crazy liberal atheist, or the Anti-Christ, but because I firmly believe in the Constitution and the separation of Church and State. I consider myself to be somewhat spiritual and religious, but I do not impose this belief on anybody else. It's one of the biggest reasons I fiercely dislike the Tea Party. I don't care if you're an evangelical Christian, but keep it to yourself.

tuarceatha · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I'll go for it! It bothers me when people have religious weddings, when they aren't religious at any other part of their life. It seems fake to me.
Posted by yaga13[/QUOTE]

It bothers me that I have religious relatives that project their religion on me. So I was brought up Catholic, that doesn't matter because I don't practice it now. I think it is COMPLETELY innappropriate for me to have a Catholic wedding. Or go anywhere near a church on that day--I'm not a believer. And I can't fake it that day.

becunning2 · August 2011

It annoys me when people say "Jew them down" or make some blanket claim about Jews being good with money or only interested in makign money. Way to tap into long-held antisemitic beliefs, people.

tuarceatha · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I agree. I had a big fight with my mom one year when I was home for Easter and she wanted me to go to church with her. I go to church for weddings and funerals, that's it. I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school for 13 years, <strong>and got tired of being told what I believe. I think religious is 100% something you have to figure out on your own, and being raised being told you believe in something is not cool. I don't need a fear of god or a promise of the reward of heaven to live my life in a morally responsible way</strong>, and I think it sucks that that's what they teach. Religion is not part of my life, I won't get married in a church, and I don't plan to baptize my kids. If they want to participate in a religion when they are old enough to make that decision, I will support that, but I would never push it on them. Anyway, it annoys me when people make judgements about my character based on the fact that I identify myself as an agnostic and athiest. And it annoys me that my mother was more upset with me not going to church with her because she wanted her church friends to see me there. /endrant
Posted by buggle2[/QUOTE]

I agree with you 100%. Especially the part about being told what to believe, I've been told I am Catholic and nothing I can do/think/say can change that. Uh how about that I doubt there is a god? I have no faith and do not seek it. I do not find comfort in religion, and I do not need it to <strong> live my life in a morally responsible way</strong>.

motoLyn · August 2011

I believe if a person is here illegally that they should be deported back to their home country.

tuarceatha · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I mentioned to BF's mom one day that I won't be getting married in a church, and she was ready to lose it. She's Catholic, BF was baptized and had his first communion, but hasn't been to church in years. Religion has NO PLACE in our relationship. I'm pretty sure he believes in God, and I do not. That's a pretty individual thing, and there is no way I would have a wedding ceremony that has NOTHING to do with our relationship. Luckily BF agrees with me, even though he has said that he always figured he would get married in a church because his family would want him to. (I reminded him that he was going to be marrying me, not his family, and he realized pretty quickly that it didn't matter what anyone else thought.)
Posted by yaga13[/QUOTE]

FI wasn't baptized. I won't tell my gma that unless asked. I went through several saraments, but stopped participating in it after my... confirmation (8th? grade). Another unpopular idea is that I taught at a Catholic school... <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-surprised.gif" border="0" alt="Surprised" title="Surprised" /> I found it facinating to be the teacher of this religion, because I learned a lot about it. Things I didn't know/learn as a child. But of course I felt like a jerk for preaching and not believing it... So I left.

TheMutleys · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I believe if a person is here illegally that they should be deported back to their home country.
Posted by motoLyn[/QUOTE]
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I'll come back with an unpopular opinion that I actually feel like sharing, but I need some time to think about it. I have too many of them. Haha.

IrishDreamer · August 2011

I think Sex Education (more than just abstinence) needs to be taught more in school and more openly. I'm so sick of "no sex" being preached...the more you tell people not to do something, the more they want to do it. So let's educate them on the dangers...give them condoms, free STD testing....SOMETHING.

Moto, *claps* YAY! I totally agree. I also think that if you don't speak English - effing learn. English is the most common language around the world - you come to this country - you should learn to speak the language. Same as if you go to Germany/Netherlands - learn to speak the language!! I shouldn't have to conform to your standards

I also believe in the Death penalty. I agree and concede that it is more costly to taxpayers, but ...some people...it should be used upon.

I also am Pro-Choice. Not necessarily Pro Abortion, and I'm so over people saying that because you are Pro-Choice, you automatically agree with abortions. This is not the case. I belive every woman has the right to make that choice. Whether i agree with it or not, means nothing. As free American women, we should have that right to choose.

Hmmmm.... I'm sure there's more controversial issues I've got opinions on...but that's what I have come with right now...now my brain is screaming FOOOOOOOOOD LOL. So i will come back when I have a chance :-)

motoLyn · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I agree with everything written above, so they can't be THAT unpopular! My unpop op (happening right before my eyes as I get a pedi) is when people in a customer service oriented field that serves an English-speaking population have side conversations while working with a client in their native language. I don't give two shiits if people NOT working on me talk in their language, but when I'm mid-conversation with them and they interrupt me (and their service) to join in on a convo in a different language it makes me feel uncomfortable. It would make me just as uncomfortable if an English-speaking service provider held a whispered side convo while working with me. It just feels disrespectful and rude...and makes me totally paranoid they're talking about me.
Posted by LivLeighton[/QUOTE]

If they are Vietnamese I can promise you they are talking about you. I kid I kid. Well sort of. The few times that I went to get a manicure they ladies don't believe that I am Vietnamese so they talk in front of me. I sit listen and pretend like I don't know what they are saying. I caught a few convos about me. Its when I leave that I thank them in Viet that they realize I knew the whole time. Take that Bi@tches! But I do agree it is nothing but gossip.

Ollie08 · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I guess this is sort of a confession, but I only vote in presidential and gubernatorial elections. I don't follow politics super closely on a daily basis so it takes me awhile to research all the candidates and which I'd like to support (I'm Independent) and I don't take the time to do that for other elections.
Posted by LivLeighton[/QUOTE]

Ehhh, I'm the same way. I also believe that in order for you to complain about the state of the nation, or the state, or county or whatever, you need to have voted in the election. I don't care who you voted for, even if it's the person in office. I just refuse to listen to your opinion if you're not going to take an active role in changing it.

IrishDreamer · August 2011

Why the EFF did it switch my SN/Pic...but keep my siggy and post?? Stupid TK...quit glitching!!

Liv, It's okay...I got a confession too. I rarely vote... I don't bitch about the government or how it's being handled. I rarely get involved in anyway shape or form with politcs, and this is all MUCH to my BF's irritation. (his mother is a county commissioner and very politically involved, and he wants to be president one day)... I feel like it's usually choosing the lesser of two evils, so I just keep mute.

jemmini6 · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I agree. I had a big fight with my mom one year when I was home for Easter and she wanted me to go to church with her. I go to church for weddings and funerals, that's it.<strong> I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school for 13 years, and got tired of being told what I believe.</strong> I think religious is 100% something you have to figure out on your own, and being raised being told you believe in something is not cool. I don't need a fear of god or a promise of the reward of heaven to live my life in a morally responsible way, and I think it sucks that that's what they teach. Religion is not part of my life, I won't get married in a church, and I don't plan to baptize my kids. If they want to participate in a religion when they are old enough to make that decision, I will support that, but I would never push it on them. Anyway, it annoys me when people make judgements about my character based on the fact that I identify myself as an agnostic and athiest. And it annoys me that my mother was more upset with me not going to church with her because she wanted her church friends to see me there. /endrant
Posted by buggle2[/QUOTE]

This is exactly what happened to my dad. He went to Catholic school through high school and never went to church again after that (except my parents did get married in the Catholic church because my dad's mom wanted them to). We never grew up going to church (except when we stayed the night at my grandma's of course) and I've never been baptized and it pisses me off to no end that some people have told me I'm going to hell because I'm not baptized. I'm sorry, but any religion where good, honest people go to hell because some pedophile old man didn't splash water on my head, but a rapist can go to heaven as long as he confessed doesn't sound like a religion I want to believe in...

I always tell people, I believe in God, just not religion. To me, religion is made up by man and I believe in having a more personalized relationship with God that is what I think it should be, not what a bunch of men wrote down 2000 years ago.

motoLyn · August 2011

I think that driver's licenses should be harder to obtain than what we have now. There are TOO many people on the road that literally don't know how to drive. And to that if you DON'T have car insurance then you get your license taken away and your car impounded.

TheMutleys · August 2011

I think it is should be socially acceptable to tell someone that they suck at life. People that continually make the same choice and expect something to change do suck at life.

If your marriage/relationship is on the rocks, you shouldn't take any chances with getting pregnant. The slim chance of bringing a child into this world is completely irresponsible, and I honestly do feel bad for children brought into dysfunctional relationships because their parents couldn't wrap it before they tap it.

Not everyone should own a home. I don't belive that it should be looked at as part of the American Dream. Some people are just not meant to be homeowners. I think that part of the reason we are in this mess is that too many people got homeloans when they couldn't afford them.

Being a realist does not mean that someone is opposed to happiness/joy or that they don't have any in their life. It just means that the person doesn't sh!t puppies and rainbows. Someone can be completely fulfilled in a very exciting and joyous life without thinking that life is rolled in cotton candy.

Agree on the sex-ed. BIG TIME. Then again, I taught sex-ed to incoming college freshman athletes. Honestly, the lack of knowledge or straight up misinformation that many kids had was shocking. (Oh, look, I called college freshmen kids. Te he he.)

Also, agree on the pro-choice sentiments. I hate that it is pro-choice and pro-life. It should be pro-choice and anti-choice. Those are opposites. If there is a pro-life, then it is saying that the opposition is anti-life. I think that is so far from the pro-choice movement and what it stands for.

TheMutleys · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I think that driver's licenses should be harder to obtain than what we have now. There are TOO many people on the road that literally don't know how to drive. And to that if you DON'T have car insurance then you get your license taken away and your car impounded.
Posted by motoLyn[/QUOTE]

To tie into the illegal thing...

Have you heard about the DUI checkpoints in Los Angeles? This was a couple of years ago. However, the LAPD was blasted for having DUI checkpoints that caught a bunch of illegals without licenses and insurance. There was a big to-do because a bunch of them were mothers with kids and groceries in the cars. If you are going to live here, follow the d@mn f*cking law. You don't get to be exempt from the laws of the country because you are here illegally. And I am all for having 'DUI checkpoints' that may actually be meant to catch those who are breaking the law in any form.

TheMutleys · August 2011

I think that if you are on welfare, you should be drug tested and given the depo shot (obviously, only if you are a woman, haha.) If you don't want to agree to those terms, then don't be on welfare. The government should not be supporting you in any way while you continue to be irresponsible.

orangehills · August 2011

I pretty much agree with everything that's been said... except I did tear up at the Talks You should have article lol

Swazzle · August 2011

I agree with pretty much everything you gals have already said!

Mine is...

I hate the electric slide.

GreenPepperBurger · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I think that if you are on welfare, you should be drug tested and given the depo shot (obviously, only if you are a woman, haha.) If you don't want to agree to those terms, then don't be on welfare. The government should not be supporting you in any way while you continue to be irresponsible.
Posted by TheMutleys[/QUOTE]

YES.

sparkles88 · August 2011

The concept of prayer kind of irks and confuses me. It bugs me when a tragedy like a natural disaster occurs, and people say they'll pray for the victims. To me, it seems like a way for someone to feel good about their actions without actually helping. The damage is already done. What those victims need are donations; not words to a god they may not even believe in.

cu97tiger · August 2011

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[QUOTE]IAlso, agree on the pro-choice sentiments. <strong> I hate that it is pro-choice and pro-life. It should be pro-choice and anti-choice. </strong>Those are opposites. If there is a pro-life, then it is saying that the opposition is anti-life. I think that is so far from the pro-choice movement and what it stands for.
Posted by TheMutleys[/QUOTE]

<div>This! I am not anti-life, I just don't think that in America, a woman should be told what to do with her own body.</div><div>
</div><div>I am against the death penalty. I don't care how heinous the crime is, the death penalty is us as a society playing God. We're saying 'you don't deserve to live' and I don't think that is any person's right to say to another person. Regardless of how much it costs to keep them in prison for the rest of their life... if that's the argument, then we're killing someone over money. (I once got kicked off of a jury for this stance)</div><div>
</div><div>I think if you are here illegally, but making a positive contribution to society (i.e. earning a living), then there should be a route for you to remain here. However, if you are caught doing something illegal, I want you on the first train, plane or automobile back to where you came from.</div><div>
</div><div>I don't give a flying fig about Twilight or Hunger Games :)</div>

csousa1 · August 2011

I'm on the fence with the welfare thing. I TOTALLY agree about the drug testing, it is the depo shot I am not sure about. While I agree that something should be done about irresponsible mothers that just mooch off the government, I think the shot is getting into a grey area. My mother was on welfare for years when I was a child, because my deadbeat biological father ran up all of her credit cards, didn't pay any rent/untilities that were in both their names, and walked out and left her with two babies and zero child support. She busted her ass every way she knew how and hung her head in shame when she had to walk down to the welfare office every week. She got off it as soon as she could. I hate thinking of a woman like that being forced to inject themselves with something because they are automatically assumed as an a$$hole.

However, she was definitely the minority and most of them are a$$holes, so maybe a shot isn't such a bad idea.

I have to think of an unpop op - it doesn't seem like any of these are unpopular at all haha!

csousa1 · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I agree with pretty much everything you gals have already said! Mine is... <strong> I hate the electric slide. </strong>
Posted by rdr716[/QUOTE]

THIS! I absolutely abhor that freaking dance.

TheMutleys · August 2011

If you are still in undergrad, you shouldn't be engaged yet. Exception to the rule being someone who goes back to school when he/she is older and beyond traditional college age.

If you are under 20 years old, you shouldn't even be thinking about getting engaged yet. (And in reality, I think that for 99% of the population, you shouldn't really be thinking about it until you are at least 23.)

Let's get spicy!

desertsun · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I'll go for it! It bothers me when people have religious weddings, when they aren't religious at any other part of their life. It seems fake to me.
Posted by yaga13[/QUOTE]

<div>I used to agree. </div><div>
</div><div>But then I had to hire someone to officiate my wedding b/c my H and I do not go to church.</div><div>
</div><div>A minister and his wife were the owners of our venue, so we just had him do our ceremony.</div><div>
</div><div>It wasn't pretty. People were like, "We can tell you had nothing to do with writing your ceremony."</div><div>
</div><div>I tried to send the minister my ideas. And then he called me controlling in the first 5 minutes of our ceremony because of it.</div><div>
</div><div>Fabulous.</div><div>
</div><div>So yeah. Consider that sometimes people don't know their officiant and the officiant does things the couple don't like.</div><div>
</div><div>
</div>

cu97tiger · August 2011

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[QUOTE]If you are still in undergrad, you shouldn't be engaged yet. Exception to the rule being someone who goes back to school when he/she is older and beyond traditional college age. If you are under 20 years old, you shouldn't even be thinking about getting engaged yet. (And in reality, I think that for 99% of the population, you shouldn't really be thinking about it until you are at least 23.) Let's get spicy!
Posted by TheMutleys[/QUOTE]

<div>My parents were married at 19 (mom) and 20 (dad) and are still happily married 39 years later. However, they are the exceptions to the rule and I 100% agree with you.</div><div>
</div><div>PS Mutley, I'm so glad you are posting more these days... we missed you around here!</div>

GreenPepperBurger · August 2011

I don't believe in prayer in public schools (any type of prayer - Christianity, Judaism, Islam).

I believe that if you aren't allowed to legally drink at your wedding, you should not be allowed to get married (although this isn't unpopular on this board).

I believe that you must pass a test before you're allowed to become a parent.

TheMutleys · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : My parents were married at 19 (mom) and 20 (dad) and are still happily married 39 years later. However, they are the exceptions to the rule and I 100% agree with you.

PS Mutley, I'm so glad you are posting more these days... we missed you around here!
Posted by cu97tiger[/QUOTE]

I think that 39 years ago this country was a very different place.

Thanks. I feel like 95% of what I post is an unpopular opinion in itself, or at least I am in the minority for voicing it.

AudgiePodge · August 2011

I agree with drug testing for welfare. Florida already does.

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/98-welfare-applicants-pass-drug-test

csousa1 · August 2011

This could be a bad one...

A lot of (NOT ALL) mothers who have children early seem to get stuck at the age when they had their child. Sometimes they have children early intentionally, and sometimes it is unintentional, but many mothers I know that had children young (19 and 15) are now in their 40's, 50's and 60's and act like 19 and 15 year olds.

Obviously this does not happen for all, and I am not saying that no one should have kids young if they WANT to, but you should definitely be at a certain maturity level and sometimes that just comes with age. I'm just saying that I have seen evidence of the full-uterus-froze-my-maturity-level-in-time syndrome, and it really isn't pretty.

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