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Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)

Good morning ladies!  I've lurked on here for a while and I've posted once, the advice I got then was very helpful so I figured I'd give it another shot since the ring topic has been coming up so much on here lately.

BF and I had the timeline talk that was suggested in my last post.  He wants to be engaged by April.  He said the ring aspect of proposing is what stressed him out the most, so we agreed that I would go and look for specific pieces that I liked and he could pick from what I found.  I asked for a budget and he wouldn't give me one.  He said he just wanted me to pick what I liked and he asked that I go sooner rather than later.

I knew that spelled trouble, it's not like he's a Rockefeller or anything and I know he doesn't have a ton of extra money (he works in mortgages and on commission).  So when I went and I was looking for settings that were less expensive, around $1000.00 or less.  Low and behold I fell in love with this:

http://www.tacori.com/Engagement-Rings/2639RDP65

It's way more expensive than I'd want him to pay.  It's about $2600 for the setting.  I've asked him if he'd be ok with something other than a diamond because I was.  No go, it has to be a diamond, so now we're looking at something close to $5000.

So now, I'm wracked with guilt.  I love this ring.  When I put it on I got this feeling like, this is it.  However, I cannot for the life of me justify him paying that much for a ring. 

He asked me about how shopping went last night and I gave him all the information I had on every ring I liked, including much less expensive ones.  But then he asked me which one was my favorite.  I would be happy with anything he gave me, because it'd be from him, and it's that next step that we both want.  He's the kind of guy who will do anything he can to make me happy though.  I don't want that to include going into debt for a ring.  He's also the king of person where once he's made up his mind there's no stopping him. 

I've made it clear to him that I don't need that ring to be happy, but that's the one he kept going back to over and over again after he asked if it was my favorite.  He wants to take me to go look at it in person.

I did ask him if he'd let me help him pay for it, because I feel like it's something for us, not just me.  He said he'd think about it, but I know he's traditional and probably will pretend like I never said anything.

So, (after all of that) my question is, did any of you feel guilty?  How should I deal with this situation (how did you deal with this if you were there)?

Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)

  • HeartOverMindHeartOverMind member
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    edited December 2011
    Personally, I haven't gone through this kind of predicament. But it seems to me that you should just look for a cheaper setting that looks similar to the one you love, I'm sure if you look you could find one.

    The ring is beautiful, but it's just a ring and there's nothing to feel guilty about. Think about the step you and your BF are going to take and you'll get the right perspective.

    The ring is just a symbol. Yes, you will be wearing it forever and you want it to be awesome, but it's not the most important part of the step you are taking together.
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  • bethsmilesbethsmiles member
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    edited December 2011
    when bf and i talk about rings sometimes i feel guilty that they cost so much which is why we decided not to do a diamond. i think u should discuss that option more with your bf. the diamond engagement ring isnt tradition as much as it is a brilliantly executed marketing ploy. if u want the diamond look though there are cheaper options like cz and moissanite.


  • katanne9katanne9 member
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    edited December 2011
    I would look around more, especially online since you've found what you like, now you just need to find it in your price range.

    I would not buy a Tacori ring. It's a beautiful ring, but Tacori = name brand = jacked up price.

    Key words like "micro pave" and "milgrain" should help you find something similar.

    Many girls on here will recommend looking at BlueNile.com
  • Ana_2985Ana_2985 member
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    edited December 2011
    Yes, if you're really worried about it, you can EASILY find a nearly identical ring without a the jacked up name brand price.

    I don't know.  If I felt so guilty about it I probably would not have told my BF about that ring in the first place.  So I really don't know what else to say except keep looking.  This is pretty much the most popular setting right not so you find it at almost any store  in any price range.

    There's one at bluenile for $1700.
    http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-engagement-ring-platinum_7814

    Here's one from Adiamor for under $1000.  Actually there are at least 5 from that store.
    http://www.adiamor.com/R-1382-R2848-1.htm

    One at whiteflash for $1500.
    www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/halo-prong-diamond-engagement-ring-521.htm">http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/halo-prong-diamond-engagement-ring-521.htm

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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:4842d3b4-9e29-4a67-8f67-79b03f4f6499">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I would not buy a Tacori ring. It's a beautiful ring, but Tacori = name brand = jacked up price.
    Posted by katanne9[/QUOTE]

    This!  I fell in love with a ring, not a famous brand but something totally within our price limits.  Sadly, it sold, and it's discontinued, so I'm probably not going to get that ring.  But the girls on here have convinced me that custom rings can look just as awesome as designer rings, with a few small twists (they can't be exactly the same for copyright reason) but you can make it everything you want in a ring.

    So print out a picture of the ring you love (ideally from multiple angles) and write down what you love about it.  Then print out pictures of any other rings you like with aspects you love.  Then give them to your BF and trust that he'll figure out something you love within his budget.

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  • alyzzle11alyzzle11 member
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    edited December 2011
    Thanks ladies.  I've talked to him about the moissanite, (because I think it's excellent) and he's just not having it. 

    Ana, some of those I had given to BF as well! 

    I've checked out bluenile.com and Simon G and other brands/sites, and to me they're all more modern looking.  It's unfortunate that, like with most things, you pay for the name.  And you're all right, I'm just going to have to keep at it so I don't feel icky about it.
  • desertsundesertsun member
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    edited December 2011
    It is just plain SILLY not to talk about budget.

    You both NEED to be able to discuss money NOW. The e-ring is only the first of many discussions about finances.

    He doesn't have to tell you exactly what he spends.

    But you do need to discuss in round figures what you BOTH agree is a reasonable budget.

    I don't recommend exceeding 10% of his average yearly income over the past 3-4 years.

    Talk about a timeline for saving.

    THEN shop. Cart, then horse.
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  • Elle1036Elle1036 member
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    edited December 2011
    I was going to tell you that you could probably find a ring very similar to the Tacori ring for half the price, but I see that a couple people have beat me to it.  Sigh.

    It's true, though.  I love Tacori stuff, but the prices are inflated because of the brand name.  You could probably look into a custom design (like we convinced Cate to do!) and get the same thing for about $1400.  If you pursue that option, you could even look into getting it made with moissanite for the accent stones ONLY to save a little more.  Would your BF be ok with that as long as the big center stone was still diamond?
  • leia1979leia1979 member
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    edited December 2011
    Don't worry. You have options.

    1) Bring photos to a local jeweler and ask if they could recreate the ring.

    2) Shop around. Mine's a Simon G, and the first store wanted $2500 for the setting. Another store wanted about $1780 for the same setting. We purchased from the second store.

    3) Ask your BF why he's set on a diamond. My BF wanted to get me a diamond, but I explained to him why that made me uncomfortable and I educated him about other choices, such as Moissanite. We ended up choosing a Lannyte, which I think is basically a name-brand CZ, but the company will replace the stone if it gets scratched or broken, and my jeweler recommended it for the setting we chose.
  • alyzzle11alyzzle11 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:2d811fd1-ac42-47a8-a9d1-2cfb30792422">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I was going to tell you that you could probably find a ring very similar to the Tacori ring for half the price, but I see that a couple people have beat me to it.  Sigh. It's true, though.  I love Tacori stuff, but the prices are inflated because of the brand name.  You could probably look into a custom design (like we convinced Cate to do!) and get the same thing for about $1400.  If you pursue that option, you could even look into getting it made with moissanite for the accent stones ONLY to save a little more.  Would your BF be ok with that as long as the big center stone was still diamond?
    Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]

    The moissanite accent stone idea is BRILLIANT!  I hadn't even thought of that.  And to both you and Cate I posted on my local board looking for a jeweler who does custom pieces.  Thank you!
  • kathleenmaevekathleenmaeve member
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    edited December 2011
    Hey Alyzzle,

    I am in a similar situation in terms of ring cost/availability guilt and a boyfriend who just wants to get what I love (tough having guys who constantly want to make us happy, huh? <sarcasm />).  I, too, tried to convince him to go the moissanite route but he was sticking to the diamond-only argument like your BF is.  Ultimately, I gave him a few options from which to choose (some of which were cheaper and in his price range) and left the decision up to him.

     I think you'll be fine if you follow all of these other ladies' great advice about shopping around at different jewelers, finding cheaper rings in similar styles, and talking about alternative stones with your BF (but don't beat a dead horse if he's set against it).  Ultimately, do not feel guilty about loving a ring...there are many, many options here and if you provide him with do-able alternatives, then the decision will be his, NOT yours.  I'm excited to see what my BF comes up with since I'm not 100% sure he got THE ring I loved...it adds a bit more suspense to the process (as if it weren't suspenseful enough)!  Hopefully, that will be your experience too :)

    P.S. saw you were posting from Lansing so I assume you and your BF are Michiganders?  My BF is from Michigan too so maybe that's where all the good ones are hiding on a regular basis :)


  • alyzzle11alyzzle11 member
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    edited December 2011
    Kathleen, my BF was born and raised in Michigan (the Lansing area more specifically) and I have been here since I was eleven.  Maybe there is something to that Michigan theory (though we do have our share of losers).

    I did just what you did and gave him about six different rings.  The Tacori is the most expensive and they go lower to about $900.00.  It is ultimately up to him, and when we discuss it next I'll tell him about all the options there are for us/him. 
  • desertsundesertsun member
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    edited December 2011
    I LOVE the way you're continuing to focus on the ring and completely ignoring my point about how important it is to be able to openly talk about finances.

    Are my posts disappearing? Hello? Can anyone see me?
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  • PandaBurrPandaBurr member
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    edited December 2011
    I can see you desert. :)

    About the moissanite side stones, depending on the size of the stone, it may actually be the same price, if not cheaper for diamonds. At least that's what my jeweler told me.
  • alyzzle11alyzzle11 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:3715e02a-41bd-48f5-9ac4-2e96a526ab35">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I LOVE the way you're continuing to focus on the ring and completely ignoring my point about how important it is to be able to openly talk about finances. Are my posts disappearing? Hello? Can anyone see me?
    Posted by desertsun[/QUOTE]

    I am not ignoring you.  I saw what you said and I appreciate your opinion.  I also did the math based on what he makes (he's open about his salary, so I have a pretty good general idea) and according to your formula that ring fits into what he could budget. 

    I agree that the budget it crucial, I asked him multiple, multiple times about it BEFORE I went to look around.  He said every time, "I don't know, go find things you like."  I didn't appreciate this route, but I don't really want to badger him about it either. 

    Last night when we spoke about it I was stressing out and feeling guilty, he on the other hand was cool as a cucumber.  So my issue isn't really about whether or not he can afford it because for all I know he can.  And we have talked about finances, we've talked about the mortgage, car payments, debts, etc. but I don't know what he's saved, I don't know what he's made this summer.  It's not like he gets an hourly wage, it can change from month to month because he does work on commission. 

    My entire issue is that I feel guilty (and I would feel guilty even if he had money falling out of his behind) because it is such a significant amount of money for something only I will be using and I'm not contributing ANYTHING to. 

    Panda, thanks for that insight!  I'll have to go talk to a jeweler in the area (when I find one).
  • edited December 2011
    If he can afford AND he's comfortable spending that amount, what's the problem?  

    Personally, I agree with desert.  The two of you need to have a heart to heart.  If either of you are uncomfortable, then it's a problem.  I told FI that I would be uncomfortable with an expensive ring because it really didn't fit in with our financial goals.  He respected that and chose what I consider to be a modest price for a ring. If I really wanted a more expensive ring, he probably would have gotten it for me.  It just would have taken him longer to save up for it.  

    As much as I love my ring, most of the engaged and married girls will tell you that the newness and excitement wears off.  As much as I stressed over picking the right one, I now realize how much the ring doesn't matter.  The symbolism is what's important.  Pick something that makes both of you happy.  
  • desertsundesertsun member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:e512329e-d32b-4fce-be26-34b4c42bf20c">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.) : I am not ignoring you.  I saw what you said and I appreciate your opinion.  I also did the math based on what he makes (he's open about his salary, so I have a pretty good general idea) and according to your formula that ring fits into what he could budget.  I agree that the budget it crucial, <strong>I asked him multiple, multiple times about it BEFORE I went to look around.  He said every time, "I don't know, go find things you like."</strong>  I didn't appreciate this route, but I don't really want to badger him about it either.  Last night when we spoke about it I was stressing out and feeling guilty, he on the other hand was cool as a cucumber.  So my issue isn't really about whether or not he can afford it <strong>because for all I know he can.</strong>  And we have talked about finances, we've talked about the mortgage, car payments, debts, etc. but <strong>I don't know what he's saved, I don't know what he's made this summer.</strong>  It's not like he gets an hourly wage, it can change from month to month because he does work on commission.  My entire issue is that I feel guilty (and I would feel guilty even if he had money falling out of his behind) because it is such a significant amount of money for something only I will be using and I'm not contributing ANYTHING to.  Panda, thanks for that insight!  I'll have to go talk to a jeweler in the area (when I find one).
    Posted by alyzzle11[/QUOTE]

    <div>I do completely understand not wanting to badger him about it.</div><div>
    </div><div>I also think it's to your credit that you're not taking it for granted that he would spend x amount on an engagement ring and that you're aware of what it means for him to spend such a large amount of his own money for a tiny thing that goes on your hand.</div><div>
    </div><div>That said, I maintain that knowing the details of where you as a couple stand financially is a good habit to start practicing now. If he's resistant, just explain to him how important it is to you and why you're doing it. I think it's so, SO important to listen to each other and find what works for BOTH of you.</div><div>
    </div><div>I just don't think you should have to feel so guilty and worry about it so much. I have to think that he wouldn't want you to feel this way, either. That's all.</div><div>
    </div><div>GL! I always love vicarious ring shopping, so please keep us updated!</div>
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  • alyzzle11alyzzle11 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:8b0ca094-1b50-4249-953e-b3a1278f24d7">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.) : I just don't think you should have to feel so guilty and worry about it so much. I have to think that he wouldn't want you to feel this way, either. That's all. GL! I always love vicarious ring shopping, so please keep us updated!
    Posted by desertsun[/QUOTE]

    I think you're right.  I'm going to stop feeling guilty about it.  It is totally up to him right now.  And you're also right in saying he wouldn't want me to feel this way, he told me as much last night when I was feeling guilty then too. 

    I will do my best to keep you updated on rings!  And I do want to thank you for taking the time to even comment on what I've said, I do appreciate it.
  • edited December 2011
    I came into this waaaay late but whatever I'm here now.

    Alyzzle - I can't in good conscience**thanks Elle** allow you to completely ignore desert's very well thought out points. Yes rings are exciting and fun, yes they are "forever", but it really is just something on your hand. You ignored her bold parts in the last post and THAT is the important stuff -  you went right into not feeling guilty.

    I don't know how old you are or how long you've been with your BF but I think you'd be better off not worrying about ring shopping/obsessing until you've talked about exactly what your finances are. Not the "well i have an idea of what he made/makes but I'm not sure."

    Not sure= recipe for disaster in my book. Flame away if you want to and I'm not saying anything negative about you ---  just the way you seem to be going about things.

    Cart is definitely way before horse here. You're trying to decide on settings and stones when you don't even know how much he made last month. Money is the number one cause of divorce and I can tell you- knowing exactly how much he makes month to month, his exact debt, exact everything... is the only way (IMHO) that a relationship can last.

    If he's resistant to discuss it, I'd be resistant to getting engaged period. But that's just me. Finances can quickly drown a relationship and I don't want that for anyone. I may be the lone wolf but I think toning it down on the ring discussion and turning it up on the actual financial discussion might be the best thing you can do now -- maybe then you won't feel guilty. I wish you the best of luck and hell I love looking at rings too!

    ETA: why are my posts centered now? Ugh.
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  • edited December 2011
    I apologize for my tardiness.

    I think the girls gave you some good advice:  1) You can find a similar style that's not Tacori and save $$$.  2) You need to tell your BF that this isn't 1950 and you're not the little woman.  He NEEDS to discuss finances with you, respect your opinion, and stop being so thick headed about this.  Honestly, how does he plan on having a healthy marriage with you if he can't respect your opinion about finances?

    To answer your other question, I did feel guilty about what FI spent on my ring.  He ended up spending $7200 before taxes.  He makes a decent amount of money and is quite a saver, but I still think that's a lot of money.  He saved all of the money up and paid cash for my ring.  However, we did look at rings for months together and did come up with a price range.  He was actually prepared to pay a lot more than this, but we ended up buying my ring in Mexico and got a really good deal on it thanks to FI's negotiation abilities.
  • Elle1036Elle1036 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:5e1c8d79-6cb5-42e0-9a81-2b524c1a993e">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I came into this waaaay late but whatever I'm here now. Alyzzle - I can't in good <strong>conscious</strong> allow you...
    Posted by nottheonlydreamer44[/QUOTE]

    *conscience
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:f580dea4-b8aa-46f0-868a-f333838fac79">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.) : *conscience
    Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]


    LOL Elle --- I spell checked that too! I will blame it on fast typing and my own inability to pay attention. Thank you for catching it though!
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  • alyzzle11alyzzle11 member
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    edited December 2011

    You all have valid points, the budget it a huge aspect of it.  We do discuss our finances, but I suppose there's always room for improvement.  He's a huge accounting nut so he makes out little notebooks that say what he's spent, what's he's saved, assets vs. liabilities and all that financial stuff (why he just doesn't do it on a computer, the world will never know) and he has asked me to look at them before, but then again that was months ago and I haven't asked since.  I guess I've always felt that was his business.  But you are all right, if we are going to be together and this is going to be us, it's our business.

    I'm not trying to put the cart before the horse, but I suppose in all actuality that's what's occuring.  This weekend I will try to have a talk with him and actually get a budget and try to start being more open about both of our finances. I won't try to force him into anything but I will explain that this is important to me and to us as a couple.  

    I guess the biggest question I had in all of this was if anyone felt guilty.  Like I said, regardless of whether or not he had the money, engagement rings are costly.  So there's a big chunk of change being spent on something for my finger, and I am wrestling with my conscience about that.  I would feel much better going dutch, but I know how unlikely that is. Wink

    I'm not going to try to flame anyone.  I realize that each woman here is entitled to their own opinion, so I'm doing my best not to take anything too personally.  I'm the one that asked for all of your advice afterall.  If I didn't want to hear it, I shouldn't have asked right? 

  • Elle1036Elle1036 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:2be1e8ed-f84f-41ab-bf2a-108be914de6c">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.) : LOL Elle --- I spell checked that too! I will blame it on fast typing and my own inability to pay attention. Thank you for catching it though!
    Posted by nottheonlydreamer44[/QUOTE]

    Anytime!
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:55cce178-101f-4654-8393-731991892e02">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I guess the biggest question I had in all of this was if anyone felt guilty.  Like I said, regardless of whether or not he had the money, engagement rings are costly.  So there's a big chunk of change being spent on something for my finger, and I am wrestling with my conscience about that.  I would feel much better going dutch, but I know how unlikely that is.
    Posted by alyzzle11[/QUOTE]

    I was somewhat concerned over the cost of my engagement ring. I told DH "not over $1,000." I just couldn't fathom wearing something on my hand every day that cost so much money. Not to mention he had recently graduated college and I had just gone back to school. We were by no means made of money (and still aren't, although I'm really happy at how well we live within our means).

    We had a joint bank account before we were engaged, so I suppose in essence we did "go dutch" on the ring. It was already "our" money, regardless of who made more of it.

    I don't know if I felt guilty... I can't remember. Maybe one of my longtime buddies here will recall if I posted anything about feeling guilty. If I did, it didn't stick with me. I trusted him to stay within our agreed-upon budget (not over $1k), and to spend only what we could afford. He spent just under $1k and got me a beautiful ring that I hadn't even seen. After all the time we spent looking together, in the end he just got what he thought was the right ring for me at a price he was comfortable with.

    And, it's beautiful.
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  • Elle1036Elle1036 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_rings-guilt-question-kind-of-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:960f9df6-35d2-4878-964d-8ead6ee15cabPost:55cce178-101f-4654-8393-731991892e02">Re: Rings and guilt question (kind of long.)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I guess the biggest question I had in all of this was if anyone felt guilty.  Like I said, regardless of whether or not he had the money, engagement rings are costly.  So there's a big chunk of change being spent on something for my finger, and I am wrestling with my conscience about that.  I would feel much better going dutch, but I know how unlikely that is.
    Posted by alyzzle11[/QUOTE]

    Like Jeana mentioned, BF and I are, in essence, "going dutch" on the ring, because our finances are so tied up at this point that it really doesn't matter who's name is on the purchase.

    As far as feeling guilty, I would have felt extremely guilty if I felt like we had gone beyond our means to pay for the ring.   I wouldn't want either of us to have to sacrifice any of the things we have or want because of a piece of jewelry.  When we first went ring shopping, we encountered a fabulously perfect, 3.1 carat (I'm guilty of being attracted to larger stones), natural yellow cushion cut diamond that we both thought was "the ring".  Of course, being in love with it didn't change the fact that we would both have to give up a lot of other things to afford the $30,000 price tag.  Not worth it.

    So we found a way to bring some of the things we loved about it into a ring that we can afford, and we're spending about $2500.  For a lot of people, that's a tiny amount to spend on an engagement ring.  For others, it's a lot.  It's all relative.  For us, $2500 is an amount that's enough to get us just what we want, but not so much that we're missing that money.  I think that's just right.
  • deburnindeburnin member
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    edited December 2011
    Little late here. I agree definitely agree with what PPs have said, but going with the guilt thing and how he's spending a significant amount of money on you... Why not get him an engagement present so that you're not the only one receiving something? Once BF and I started looking seriously at rings I started saving to get him the cooking knife set that he really wants. Knowing that you're going to be able to give him something as well might help alleviate the guilt (along with PPs suggestions of course).
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  • Starlight KelStarlight Kel member
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    edited December 2011
    If you feel this guilty about it you probably shouldn't have even brought that ring to his attention.  You could have printed it out and said "Here, I want something like this" and played dumb on the brand.  I don't know, maybe I missed something somewhere in your posts but I would think this would be the easy route.  I try not to look at things I don't want to spend the money on because if I LOVE it that just makes it even harder.

    The ladies here offer great suggestions and rings similar so I hope you find what you want and spend the money you want without the guilt.  This is a HAPPY TIME!  Not guilty time! 


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