Michelle Duggar Miscarries

musicalsunlight · December 2011

I agree Sarah, it is really sad that it had to be a public announcement. There are really awful people out there who will say really crappy things even to news like this.

Megbo2012 · December 2011

Tide, those pictures are precious.

tidetravel · December 2011

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[QUOTE]I hate that this happened to them, and that they have to greive publically. They seem like a strong family, but this is devastating and I wish they didn't have to announce on national television, you know?
Posted by SarahPLiz[/QUOTE]
To be fair, I think you open yourself up to it when you agree to let TV crews into your house.

sleblanc72 · December 2011

I agree Sarah. Not only is it such a hard time to go through but I can't imagine having to grieve in front of millions of people.

SarahPLiz · December 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Michelle Duggar Miscarries : To be fair, I think you open yourself up to it when you agree to let TV crews into your house.
Posted by tidetravel[/QUOTE]
Oh, I know you do. Its just sad for me to think about having to do that publically, even if they asked for it.

KatePlusNate04 · December 2011

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[QUOTE]I also wondered what would happen with the next pregnancy(ies) after Josie's birth. As far as I understand it, once a woman develops pre-e during a pregnancy, she's at high risk for having it on subsequent pregnancies. IMO, it's irresponsible for them to continue to get pregnant, based on the risk to Michelle, alone. Unfortunately,<strong> I don't think they will stop until she naturally stops having viable pregancies, or she dies from complications.</strong>
Posted by tidetravel[/QUOTE]

That's what I'm thinking. It's so sad; I wouldn't wish this upon anyone.
However, I am also concerned about Michelle. Like you pointed out, I really think if she continues getting pregnant, it won't just be the baby's life at risk, but hers also.

I get why they continue having kids and everyone is entitled to their own opinions about that (faith and children, etc.), but at some point, I think they have to realize that people's lives are at danger here (hers and their future childrens').

tidetravel · December 2011

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[QUOTE]Tide, those pictures are precious.
Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

Thank you!

midgetthemighty · December 2011

How incredibly sad for them. I was afraid something like this may happen after the complications in the prior pregnancy.

adamar15 · December 2011

A miscarriage is always sad, but come on. When are they going open their eyes and see that the risks drastically increase every time they let God "give them a child"? I'm sorry she miscarried, but enough is enough already.

jenajjthr · December 2011

One of the articles I read when they announced she was pregnant was that the time interval between giving birth to Josie and this pregnancy was close to 2 years which had been the longest she had gone without getting pregnant. I know that some of that time frame dealt with her being alone to raise Josie until her immune system was stronger, but hopefully that trend will continue and this will be her last pregnancy.

MattsPenguin · December 2011

Adamar, I think I'm with you. When I read the title of the thread, many cynical thoughts crossed my mind.

I do hate that she had to go through it during the second trimester. That is super tough.

Simply Fated · December 2011

Regardless of how I feel about her and her determination to produce a whole football league, I wouldn't wish a miscarriage on anyone. My heart goes out to her family.

adamar15 · December 2011

No one is wishing a miscarriage on anyone.

crash2729 · December 2011

I don't think anyone was wishing a miscarriage but I don't think they're ignorant to the risks they are facing with each subsequent pregnancy.

I think that with their faith they believe that "what will be, will be" and that it will be that way for a reason that they may not understand.

adamar15 · December 2011

I guess I just have an issue with that kind of blind faith, then. I think it's irresponsible to have that attitude when you know that it could end up killing you.

crash2729 · December 2011

Personally, I wouldn't call their faith irresponsible because I feel like that's a way of telling them that they're wrong.

They aren't going to change their ways. I just hope she doesn't get pregnant again because I can only imagine what would happen if she died. That would leave Jim Bob a single father to the 18 kids left in his house. Yikes.

Simply Fated · December 2011

crash and adamar, I didn't say anyone was. It's just an expression. I meant that I wouldn't mind something bad happening to them, like one of their sons rebelling and converting to Judaism or one of their daughters admitting she hates children and would rather be a lingerie model. Something amusing. But not dying or miscarrying. I wouldn't wish THAT on them. ETA: I mean, something THEY would think was bad. Judaism and modeling isn't bad, IMO, but they'd probably feel devastated.

Birdie1483 · December 2011

I think I have more empathy to THIS particular situation because it was in the second trimester. This might be splitting hairs, but if it was in her first tri I would think it was sad, but as a result of her age. The fact that she was going to find out the sex of the baby and ended up finding out it was dead made me sad. That's no longer just cells trying to come together the right way.

tidetravel · December 2011

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[QUOTE]I think I have more empathy to THIS particular situation because it was in the second trimester. This might be splitting hairs, but if it was in her first tri I would think it was sad, but as a result of her age. <strong>The fact that she was going to find out the sex of the baby and ended up finding out it was dead made me sad</strong>. That's no longer just cells trying to come together the right way.
Posted by Birdie1483[/QUOTE]

That is really sad.

BTW - I love your dress. That pic is beautiful.

Birdie1483 · December 2011

Thanks tide! You make cute babies

Simply Fated · December 2011

Oh I totes agree! Imagine going to find out if it's going to be a boy or a girl... only to find out it's not even alive? So heartbreaking!

mica178 · December 2011

That's sad. Not unexpected but still sad.

nhahn2206 · December 2011

WTF? TK is so wonky. I just tried to quote Mrs. B and it took me to Lynchburg Weddings? Weird.

Anyway, I had the same thought about her doing pretty well to have only had two miscarriages at this point. Statistically, that's pretty amazing. It doesn't make this situation any less tragic, though. My heart goes out to her, especially with having to now deliver.

I just feel like their religious beliefs are impossible to work around in any way. Even devout Catholics practice natural family planning! At some point, you have to realize that you're creating more harm than good. They need to be thankful for what they have and figure out a new strategy for not getting pregnant in the meantime.

LittleMonkey1 · December 2011

I know some people think that with the complications with Josie, that they should have known better and stopped. But one thing Michelle did say was that she had the same complications with one of the older girls (not that early in the pregnancy but still). And the girl was, I think, kid 4 or 5 or something. And she said, if we took those complications as a sign to stop, we wouldn't of had any of our other healthy children that we do have. Pregnancy complications can happen with anyone, even if they haven't had any previous pregnancies. I'm not trying to single any one out here, I just know a lot of people in general think she shouldn't be having children anymore. And with the older children helping raise the younger children... a lot of people say the parent's should be doing the raising. But really, almost all the teenage children I know, including myself when I was a teenager, help raise their siblings. You help babysit, you help them get dressed, maybe you walk with them to school or help them with homework. This is a normal thing for teenagers to do with younger children, regardless of if a family has 3 children or 19. It is just shown more on a larger scale but all the children in my area at least, help with raising their younger siblings, some more than others.

Simply Fated · December 2011

LittleMonkey, A lot of people are saying she should stop because her age makes her high risk and after what happened with Josie there is a chance she could end up leaving those children motherless. She probably should try focusing more on the children she has rather than the children she could have. It's one thing to have older siblings help out with the younger siblings, but in the Duggar's case she has the older siblings literally raising the younger ones. Its not just occasionally changing diapers and baby sitting, the kids don't have some chores, they have ALL the chores.

Meghannsix · December 2011

While I don't agree with their methods (or lack thereof) it's always sad to lose a child.

toothpastechica · December 2011

It is sad, but realistically, shes getting older, there are more risks, and I know they talk about thier beleifs and such, but last i checked, there are natural methods (time of month ect) that make the likelyhood of getting preggers less likely, and no one is going to know if your activitly abstaining, and im pretty sure God knows that the risks go up as a woman ages and wont hold it against someone, its more a personal choice thing then its a religious thing for them no matter how much they say its religious.

Having said that i just found out this week that my friends mom just found out shes pregnant and shes 50! The whole family is in shock...she had started menopause and thought it wasnt possible so stopped b/c....I feel way more for that family who are now in the throws of a extremely high risk pregnanacy (and huge chances of down syndrome etc) and if it goes as plan will then be parenting until they are 70 years old, then i do for the duggers.

annakb8 · December 2011

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[QUOTE]It is sad, but realistically, shes getting older, there are more risks, and I know they talk about thier beleifs and such, but last i checked, there are natural methods (time of month ect) that make the likelyhood of getting preggers less likely, and no one is going to know if your activitly abstaining, and im pretty sure God knows that the risks go up as a woman ages and wont hold it against someone,<strong> its more a personal choice thing then its a religious thing for them no matter how much they say its religious</strong>. Having said that i just found out this week that my friends mom just found out shes pregnant and shes 50! The whole family is in shock...she had started menopause and thought it wasnt possible so stopped b/c....I feel way more for that family who are now in the throws of a extremely high risk pregnanacy (and huge chances of down syndrome etc) and if it goes as plan will then be parenting until they are 70 years old, then i do for the duggers.
Posted by toothpastechica[/QUOTE]

<div>Most religious things are personal choices. </div><div>
</div><div>And I don't really know much about them, but I'd bet that even things like NFP are against their beliefs. </div>

ahhhitsshannyn · December 2011

They are "quiverfull Christian" which does not believe in any sort BC or even NFP. So their choice IS due to religion, not just that they think babies are just so cute. I guess its like any persons religion- if you had to kill someone to save yourself, some people would not do it due to their religion, right, even if they had a chance to save themselves. So if something goes wrong in her pregnancy- that is just Gods way and they have to go with it.

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