If you ladies don't mind my starting a discussion, was looking for thoughts on this.
I've seen a lot of discussion here about the evils of moral relativism. However I have never been able to see certain issues as black and white. On the abortion issue for example, isn't this is a situation where an abortion should be tolerated?
The woman's fetus is anencephalic, and will be born with half a brain and no consciousness, with a likely "life"span (with reflexive breathing and circulation) of 2 days. Here's a wikipedia entry on the condition:
Why must the child be born at risk to the mother's life? Is the only argument a "slippery slope" argument? Couldn't any issue be subject to a "slippery slope" argument?
Re: NWR Discussion Topic: This is why I don't believe social issues are black and white
Even if the baby's diagnosis is correct, it is not up to humans to decide when ANY other human's life ends. One or two days outside the womb (along with the roughly 280 inside) is better than no days at all.
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abortion to me is black and white. i believe that there is never a reason to abort.
from a non-catholic standpoint i can see how this would be a gray area OR be black in white in that it would make sense to abort the baby.
but as a catholic, abortion to me would still not be a choice in this situation. for me personally, id want to give birth, allow my child to be baptized during its incredibly short life span, and then hope and pray that ive prepared myself for whatever god's plan is with regard to my personal medical situation. i would hope that i would be rewarded in my own illness for not killing my child to save myself, but if god wants me to join my child then that's the plan.
I loathe abortion.
However, I think that in certain cases it could be necessary. I hate the idea of "playing God" (Euthaniasia is about to be legalized in my state and I'm SOOOO mad), but when the mother is at risk, that's when it gets into the gray area for me.
Ponder this: My sister has special needs. What happens if she is raped and gets pregnant? She is not physically capable of surviving a pregnancy. What then? Does my family have a "wait and see if nature takes its course" attitude? HECK NO. We would do whatever we could to protect her.
I believe that there's gray area for every social issue once it becomes personal. Life isn't black and white.
so what if the person in the article simply proceeded with her medical treatment? if the fetus is so badly ill that it will die from its current disease/disabilty shortly after birth, then does it matter? i have heard of stories where some women have proceeded with cancer treatments while pregnant with mixed results - but in those cases they were usually carrying a perfectly healthy child.
would she be considered to be having an abortion if she opts for treatment for herself that may kill her child, given that her intent isnt to kill the child but rather treat her lupus/kidney problem?
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One of my best friends had an anencephalic baby. Obviously (as cfas stated, there is ZERO chance of survival) the baby passed within hours. Is that because they didn't pray hard enough? Because this whole statement is incredibly uneducated and offensive to the thousands of parents who didn't deserve the miracle they so prayed for.
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I would love to hear you try to explain that to a child who lost his or her mother because she was denied the procedure that could have saved her life, and see how that child reacts to "Well, it's God's will, maybe some good will come out of it."
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People can take offense to my statement if they want to, but I never said people who don't get miracles didn't pray hard enough . I'm just saying that nothing is 100%, and if there's even the tiniest chance of a miracle, then it's worth a shot to me.
But see, thats the thing. Some things absolutely are 100%. I am 100% a woman. A human 100% cant live without certain body parts or certain bodily functions. The sky today is 100% blue.
There's nothing wrong with prayer and hope for a miracle. I pray frequently for guidance. But sometimes miracles just arent going to happen, and you just have to be realistic about that.
I am really not trying to pick on you, Lalaith, but this is really not the way to make your point or back it up. It's akin to "Well, I disagree, so I'm taking my ball and going home."
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But what bothers me is judging or condemning or otherwise "schooling" the woman that her decision is wrong. In her world, she doesn't believe a miracle is going to happen and is presumably weighing her personal beliefs and opinions with that of her medical providers and making a decision that's best for her. It's not yours, mine, or anyone's decision to make for her, and her decision is something that is between her, her family, her medical providers, and her version of God. The rest of the world needs to stay the heck out of it.
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