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FMIL & FSIL HELL!!! Vent

Ever since my FI and I got engaged in May, my FMIL and FSIL have been thorns in my side. When we first started planning our wedding, we were going to have an afternoon reception, starting at 1pm and ending at 6pm.  She DEMANDED that we have an evening reception that started at 6pm and went to 11pm.  She then said that she would pay the difference (about 2500) so she could have her evening reception.  FI and I said fine, if you are going to pay for the difference, we will have the evening reception.  We brought my Mom and FMIL to see the reception venue.  My Mom fell in love with the space and all that it had to offer.  FMIL was a grump and said that she wasn't thrilled with it and we should change our venue to a different venue.  To which we said NO because we had already booked and paid the deposit for the venue, not to mention we were getting a good discount, etc.  She didn't like our answer, but of course FI said that this is OUR wedding and all she did was pay for the difference.  She backed off.  HOWEVER, after we saw the venue with her, she started demanding that we use FSIL's centerpieces (silk flowers - different shades of blue) and use her bouquets for the wedding.  We said that we would think about it - which turned into me booking a florist ASAP because I was not going to be carrying FSIL's flowers on my wedding day.  Not to mention, the colors are NO WHERE near my color scheme.  Yes, I have blue but not that cornflower blue (or whatever the name of that god forsaken color is).  Then after booking the florist, FMIL and FSIL started asking me if I was going to use the centerpieces and bouquets.  They had pulled them out of the storage box in the basement of FMIL's house and had them out in the dining room one day that I went over.  I apologized and said that FI and I had booked a florist to do our flowers and that while I would have loved to use her flowers, the venue supplies the centerpieces (to which FMIL was FULLY aware of) and that I wanted different flowers all together for my bouquets.  

A few weeks after all of this, we went bridesmaid dress shopping.  I had asked FSIL to be a bridesmaid because I felt it would be nice to include FI's sister.  The entire time that FSIL and FMIL were with me and my girls, including my Mom, they sat off to the side, talking with each other and not talking with the other girls or my Mom.  First, I consider that rude and completely disrespectful.  Someone invites you to be apart of their day, you agree and then shut yourself off from the other girls involved in the wedding party? Seriously?  My sister, who is my MOH, thought it was odd but chalked it up to them not knowing my girls, even though we introduced them at lunch that same day......and I thought they were getting along smoothly then.  Hah. FSIL and FMIL complained that the dress that all of the girls decided and agreed upon was too "sexy."  How in the hell is a full length satin halter gown, too "sexy?"  I don't get it....

My sister planned my surprise bridal shower with my SIL who is also a BM.  My sister asked FMIL and FSIL what they would like to do to contribute and their response was "Bake some brownies and some cupcakes."  My sister was looking for more help than that....like help with setting up the night before, etc.  No, they couldn't be bothered because they had to work....HELLO!!!! MY entire bridal party works for a living and has requested time off to be apart of my special day, and don't complain one bit.  I'm sure they do complain, but it's not like I'm demanding them to take multiple days off.  I always schedule things when I know that the girls all have off.  None of the other BM's complain about anything AT ALL.  I guess it's because I have mostly family as apart of my bridal party...I have one very good girl friend of 20+ years as a bridesmaid but my side consists of my sister, SIL, cousin, FSIL and my girlfriend.  

Anyhow...to continue.  I am going to have my nephew (SIL's son) as a ring bearer.  FI and I decided that we would also include his nephew (FSIL's son) to be a ring bearer as well.  We hadn't discussed this with FSIL as we were going to wait until Christmas and ask then. That way we can see how our nephews responded off one another, etc.  My nephew is 3 and is extremely bright...he talks and has conversations with you...where as his nephew turns 2 on Oct. 31st and doesn't talk at all.  There is a definite learning curve between the two of them.  But that's besides the point.  FSIL constantly brings up the ring bearers and says that she can't wait to have her son walk down the aisle as our ring bearer.  We haven't even asked them if he could be a ring bearer yet!!!!!  She keeps saying that she knows he's going to be a ring bearer because her brother wouldn't let her down like that.  Um, hello, it's not just HIS decision!  My SIL isn't like that but she already knows my nephew will be a ring bearer because I had discussed it with her already (which FI is fully aware of) since we wanted her to be ready for that expense as well.  We have a feeling that FSIL is going to flip a lid when she realizes she has to shell out even more money for this wedding. 

On top of everything else FMIL and FSIL think we should introduce FMIL as she is walking into the reception.  FI and I already decided to save on time, and not to hurt anyone's feelings, we would only have the bridal party introduced as they are walking in...we would introduce the parents while they were at their tables.  See, FMIL and FFIL are divorced.  FFIL is remarried and FMIL #2 (who is AWESOME by the way) are not liked by FSIL or FMIL.  So, we are making it so I don't have to worry about FMIL's feelings getting hurt when I say that I want FMIL and FFIL to walk in together and be introduced as "Mother and Father of the groom." With having them already seated we can point out Mom & Dad of groom and Step mother as well.  Makes sense to FI and I.  

FMIL also has demanded that she sit with her brother and NOT with FFIL and FMIL#2.  I originally wanted my parents to sit with FMIL, FFIL and FMIL#2 at one table.  But NOOOO because FMIL can't be a GROWN UP for one day, put aside her negative feelings (which I completely understand why she has them but seriously, get over yourself for one friggin day!) and sit with the people I want you to sit with, she gets her way....AGAIN! She pulled the "I'm paying for part of the reception" card...when in reality the $ she is giving us is going to taxes/service charge and gratuity.  

To top everything off, FMIL wants us to ORDER our invites from an outside source and have these imprinted flowers on them, with her name listed on the invitation.  I said NO to FI and FI I agreed with me, thank god.  FI and I are hosting our wedding, as we are paying for 95% of the wedding ourselves.  So no parents names are going to be on the invites.  She will be recognized in the program, but not on the invite.  Not to mention FMIL is basically wanting me to do everything HER way.  She doesn't like where we plan to have our rehearsal dinner, but she isn't paying for it so it's not her decision.  We are getting a great price from our local bar/grill/bowling alley as FI works there part time (aside from his FT job) and the owner's son is in the wedding party, so it was an easy decision.  She doesn't like it and wants us to have it at the local polish/american club across the street from the church.  NO thank you.  Only way that will change is if she offers to pay for it.  We already have our idea set, and it's a rather good and inexpensive (with awesome food and drinks) plan too.  

Sorry this has gotten soooo long.  FMIL is the bane of my existence.  FSIL irks me at every turn....I won't even get into how she is raising her son....**rolls eyes** 

I just can't wait for our wedding day to get here, so I can tell FMIL and FSIL where to go with out being made out to be a bitch.  It's my day dammit...you do as I say!!!!!


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Re: FMIL & FSIL HELL!!! Vent

  • WHOA.  Need a summary.
  • Oface4eva said:
    WHOA.  Need a summary.
    Sorry...I was venting and on a roll.  In short FSIL and FMIL are banes to my existence.  I can't stand them and want to be around them as little as possible.  They want things their way, but of course this is not Burger King...you can't have it your way.  They just don't like the fact that FMIL's only son and FSIL's only brother is getting married to me and they want to make me overwhelmed and extremely ticked off in the process......

    Yep, that's the summary and I'm sticking to it.

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    image 40 are party poopers
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  • 1) fmil offered to pay the difference between to reception halls and b&g accepted. fmil and fsil want bride to use silk flowers from fsil's wedding. bride booked different florist.

    2) fmil and fsil went to the bridesmaid dress shopping outing and did not talk to anyone. then fsil said the dress was too sexy. final outcome on dress is not known.

    3) fmil and fsil declined to take day off for surprise bridal shower and did not volunteer their time to decorate. bride plans wedding activities for days off, thereby not allowing bridal party to use time off as they wish. bride feels this is generous and reasonable on her part.

    4) bride wants two ring bearers. second ring bearer is fsil's son. bride feels that fsil's son is developmentally slow. bride is also put out by fsil assuming that her son will be ring bearer, despite the fact that bride, in fact, actually wants that.

    5) fmil wants separate introduction at reception, fmil and ffil are divorced, and ffil is remarried. however, bride wants fmil and fsil introduced as couple.

    6) bride wants fmil and ffil to sit at table together with fsmil and bog and mog. fmil would rather sit with her family.

    7) fmil wants bride to order specific invites and have her name listed. bride feels mil is not contributing enough and does not want to have fmil's name listed on invitation. also, rehearsal will be at the local alley, not at desired polish-american club.
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  • hmonkey said:
    1) fmil offered to pay the difference between to reception halls and b&g accepted. fmil and fsil want bride to use silk flowers from fsil's wedding. bride booked different florist.

    2) fmil and fsil went to the bridesmaid dress shopping outing and did not talk to anyone. then fsil said the dress was too sexy. final outcome on dress is not known.

    3) fmil and fsil declined to take day off for surprise bridal shower and did not volunteer their time to decorate. bride plans wedding activities for days off, thereby not allowing bridal party to use time off as they wish. bride feels this is generous and reasonable on her part.

    4) bride wants two ring bearers. second ring bearer is fsil's son. bride feels that fsil's son is developmentally slow. bride is also put out by fsil assuming that her son will be ring bearer, despite the fact that bride, in fact, actually wants that.

    5) fmil wants separate introduction at reception, fmil and ffil are divorced, and ffil is remarried. however, bride wants fmil and fsil introduced as couple.

    6) bride wants fmil and ffil to sit at table together with fsmil and bog and mog. fmil would rather sit with her family.

    7) fmil wants bride to order specific invites and have her name listed. bride feels mil is not contributing enough and does not want to have fmil's name listed on invitation. also, rehearsal will be at the local alley, not at desired polish-american club.
    Hahaha. I like you.  Sums it up a little off key and incorrect, but good non-the-less.  Thanks. :o/

    I like your spunk.
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  • She gave you this, hmo:

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  • Ever since my FI and I got engaged in May, my FMIL and FSIL have been thorns in my side. When we first started planning our wedding, we were going to have an afternoon reception, starting at 1pm and ending at 6pm.  She DEMANDED that we have an evening reception that started at 6pm and went to 11pm.  She then said that she would pay the difference (about 2500) so she could have her evening reception.  FI and I said fine, if you are going to pay for the difference, we will have the evening reception.  We brought my Mom and FMIL to see the reception venue.  My Mom fell in love with the space and all that it had to offer.  FMIL was a grump and said that she wasn't thrilled with it and we should change our venue to a different venue.  To which we said NO because we had already booked and paid the deposit for the venue, not to mention we were getting a good discount, etc.  She didn't like our answer, but of course FI said that this is OUR wedding and all she did was pay for the difference.  She backed off.  HOWEVER, after we saw the venue with her, she started demanding that we use FSIL's centerpieces (silk flowers - different shades of blue) and use her bouquets for the wedding.  We said that we would think about it - which turned into me booking a florist ASAP because I was not going to be carrying FSIL's flowers on my wedding day.  Not to mention, the colors are NO WHERE near my color scheme.  Yes, I have blue but not that cornflower blue (or whatever the name of that god forsaken color is).  Then after booking the florist, FMIL and FSIL started asking me if I was going to use the centerpieces and bouquets.  They had pulled them out of the storage box in the basement of FMIL's house and had them out in the dining room one day that I went over.  They did this because you didn't say no initially, so they probably thought they were being "helpful" I apologized and said that FI and I had booked a florist to do our flowers and that while I would have loved to use her flowers, the venue supplies the centerpieces (to which FMIL was FULLY aware of) and that I wanted different flowers all together for my bouquets.  Lying is not going to get you anywhere, but will create sticky situations in the future. If they ask you things in the future, you need to be honest

    A few weeks after all of this, we went bridesmaid dress shopping.  I had asked FSIL to be a bridesmaid because I felt it would be nice to include FI's sister.  The entire time that FSIL and FMIL were with me and my girls, including my Mom, they sat off to the side, talking with each other and not talking with the other girls or my Mom.  First, I consider that rude and completely disrespectful.  Someone invites you to be apart of their day, you agree and then shut yourself off from the other girls involved in the wedding party?  Seriously?  My sister, who is my MOH, thought it was odd but chalked it up to them not knowing my girls, even though we introduced them at lunch that same day..I would not be comfortable enough to carry on conversations for an afternoon of lunch and bridesmaid dress shopping with multiple women that I did not know, I have been in that situation before and it was absolutely miserable....and I thought they were getting along smoothly then.  Hah. FSIL and FMIL complained that the dress that all of the girls decided and agreed upon was too "sexy."  How in the hell is a full length satin halter gown, too "sexy?"  I don't get it.... Is it form fitted? Is the neckline deep? Do they dress conservatively typically?

    My sister planned my surprise bridal shower with my SIL who is also a BM.  My sister asked FMIL and FSIL what they would like to do to contribute and their response was "Bake some brownies and some cupcakes."  My sister was looking for more help than that....like help with setting up the night before, etc.  If your sister planned the event, then it was up to her to put it together.  If she asked them to contribute without them offering first, then that was rude on her part. No, they couldn't be bothered because they had to work....HELLO!!!! MY entire bridal party works for a living and has requested time off to be apart of my special day, and don't complain one bit.  I'm sure they do complain, but it's not like I'm demanding them to take multiple days off.  I always schedule things when I know that the girls all have off.  How many things have you scheduled? I asked my BM's if they wanted to look at dresses with me, and that's it. There is nothing else required of a BM other than showing up that day. I know that I would be upset if my days off were spent helping with someone else's wedding. None of the other BM's complain about anything AT ALL.  I guess it's because I have mostly family as apart of my bridal party...I have one very good girl friend of 20+ years as a bridesmaid but my side consists of my sister, SIL, cousin, FSIL and my girlfriend.  

    Anyhow...to continue.  I am going to have my nephew (SIL's son) as a ring bearer.  FI and I decided that we would also include his nephew (FSIL's son) to be a ring bearer as well.  We hadn't discussed this with FSIL as we were going to wait until Christmas and ask then. That way we can see how our nephews responded off one another, etc.  My nephew is 3 and is extremely bright...he talks and has conversations with you...where as his nephew turns 2 on Oct. 31st and doesn't talk at all.  There is a definite learning curve between the two of them.  But that's besides the point.  FSIL constantly brings up the ring bearers and says that she can't wait to have her son walk down the aisle as our ring bearer.  We haven't even asked them if he could be a ring bearer yet!!!!!  She keeps saying that she knows he's going to be a ring bearer because her brother wouldn't let her down like that.  Um, hello, it's not just HIS decision!  My SIL isn't like that but she already knows my nephew will be a ring bearer because I had discussed it with her already (which FI is fully aware of) since we wanted her to be ready for that expense as well.  We have a feeling that FSIL is going to flip a lid when she realizes she has to shell out even more money for this wedding. This is frustrating, it is rude of her to assume that her son will be a ring bearer, it is completely up to you and your FI to decide

    On top of everything else FMIL and FSIL think we should introduce FMIL as she is walking into the reception.  FI and I already decided to save on time, and not to hurt anyone's feelings, we would only have the bridal party introduced as they are walking in...we would introduce the parents while they were at their tables.  See, FMIL and FFIL are divorced.  FFIL is remarried and FMIL #2 (who is AWESOME by the way) are not liked by FSIL or FMIL.  So, we are making it so I don't have to worry about FMIL's feelings getting hurt when I say that I want FMIL and FFIL to walk in together and be introduced as "Mother and Father of the groom." With having them already seated we can point out Mom & Dad of groom and Step mother as well.  Makes sense to FI and I.  

    FMIL also has demanded that she sit with her brother and NOT with FFIL and FMIL#2.  I originally wanted my parents to sit with FMIL, FFIL and FMIL#2 at one table.  But NOOOO because FMIL can't be a GROWN UP for one day, put aside her negative feelings (which I completely understand why she has them but seriously, get over yourself for one friggin day!) and sit with the people I want you to sit with, Just clarifying, you want her to sit with her ex-husband, correct? If so, then she is not in the wrong. There is a reason they are divorced, don't make her sit at the same table as Wife #2, that could be extremely hurtful. she gets her way....AGAIN! She pulled the "I'm paying for part of the reception" card...when in reality the $ she is giving us is going to taxes/service charge and gratuity. That is still money you are using for the wedding, those who pay get a say. 

    To top everything off, FMIL wants us to ORDER our invites from an outside source and have these imprinted flowers on them, with her name listed on the invitation.  I said NO to FI and FI I agreed with me, thank god.  FI and I are hosting our wedding, as we are paying for 95% of the wedding ourselves.  So no parents names are going to be on the invites.  She will be recognized in the program, but not on the invite.  Not to mention FMIL is basically wanting me to do everything HER way.  She doesn't like where we plan to have our rehearsal dinner, but she isn't paying for it so it's not her decision.  We are getting a great price from our local bar/grill/bowling alley as FI works there part time (aside from his FT job) and the owner's son is in the wedding party, so it was an easy decision.  She doesn't like it and wants us to have it at the local polish/american club across the street from the church.  NO thank you.  Only way that will change is if she offers to pay for it.  We already have our idea set, and it's a rather good and inexpensive (with awesome food and drinks) plan too.  

    Sorry this has gotten soooo long.  FMIL is the bane of my existence.  FSIL irks me at every turn....I won't even get into how she is raising her son....**rolls eyes** 

    I just can't wait for our wedding day to get here, so I can tell FMIL and FSIL where to go with out being made out to be a bitch.  It's my day dammit...you do as I say!!!!!



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  • So, they want you to walk down the aisle with some dusty fake flowers.

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  • "I just can't wait for our wedding day to get here, so I can tell FMIL and FSIL where to go with out being made out to be a bitch.  It's my day dammit...you do as I say!!!!!"

    Let us know how that works out for you.  These people will be in your married life forever and you better learn how to build a bridge.

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  • I like @kss20.  Gold star for you and @hmonkey for wading through that drivel.
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    @hmonkey and @kss20:

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  • You need to just talk to these people less.
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  • I just can't wait for our wedding day to get here, so I can tell FMIL and FSIL where to go with out being made out to be a bitch.  It's my day dammit...you do as I say!!!!!

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    Nope, you're gonna be a bitch no matter what, sorry. From your post, I can see why they're acting this way toward you. And it's not your day. It's just not. It's a day for you, your fiance, your family, your friends, his family, his friends. Making it a selfish thing makes you even more bitchy.

  • 1. This was far too long.

    2. The word you're looking for is "a part" -- as in "a part of something." "Apart," as you kept typing, meant to take apart, or to separate. 

    3. You sound like a judgemental, childish brat. You accepted your FMIL's money, and money comes with strings. Those strings are doing things the way your FMIL wants you to. If you don't like that, give her back her money.

    4. You're clearly playing favourites, your nephew against your FI's, and that's ridiculously petty. You said, "To see how they responded to each other." Does that mean if your FI's nephew doesn't recognise your nephew for the speshul snowflake that he is, you won't let him be in the wedding? 

    5. Your MOH/BMs/whomever had no right to expect your FMIL and FSIL to help set up your bridal shower the night before. They asked what FMIL/FSIL wanted to do to help, they said what they wanted to do, it was then on your MOH/BMs/whomever to accept that GRACIOUSLY and STFU.
    Sorry this has gotten soooo long.  FMIL is the bane of my existence.  FSIL irks me at every turn....I won't even get into how she is raising her son....**rolls eyes** 

    I just can't wait for our wedding day to get here, so I can tell FMIL and FSIL where to go with out being made out to be a bitch.  It's my day dammit...you do as I say!!!!!


    6. First bold -- you have ZERO place to be judging this, so shut your face.

    7. Second bold -- Sweetie, you are being a bitch, ain't no "being made out to" about it, and it stopped being "your" (what about your FI? This is his day, too, and these are his family members you're treating so badly) day the second you invited people to witness your marriage. 

    8. Get over yourself.
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    I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'
  • Wow! If I treated my FMIL or my FSIL that way..I would be embarrassed! And my FI might not speak to me for a few days. Just because you are getting married does NOT make you queen of the world and people don't have to "do what you say" on your wedding day. Again you ARE NOT the queen of the world.

    Jeez, get over yourself child. BTW HOW OLD ARE YOU?!?!?

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  • How in the hell is a full length satin halter gown, too "sexy?"  I don't get it.... To add to what Rebl90 said. Some will consider "sexy" if your cleavage is showing. Halter/strapless/spaghetti straps can all be considered sexy, it all depends on the person.

    If your FSIL & FMIL are used to more conservative, not showing much skin, then a dress that goes to above the knee & has a halter top would be considered "sexy" to them. 

    Also what Rebl90 said about the divorced parents, how would you feel if someone seated you next to your ex? Do you even know why they divorced? Hell second wife could be "the other woman" for all you know. Seriously I never understood why everyone thinks it's okay to seat people together, when you ALREADY KNOW they are not going to get along >.<!!! 
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  • Rebl90 said:
    They had pulled them out of the storage box in the basement of FMIL's house and had them out in the dining room one day that I went over.  They did this because you didn't say no initially, so they probably thought they were being "helpful" I apologized and said that FI and I had booked a florist to do our flowers and that while I would have loved to use her flowers, the venue supplies the centerpieces (to which FMIL was FULLY aware of) and that I wanted different flowers all together for my bouquets.  Lying is not going to get you anywhere, but will create sticky situations in the future. If they ask you things in the future, you need to be honest

    They had called me the night before I went over because (from what FI has told me) they had already pulled the flowers up from storage in hopes that I would say yes.  I didn't say no when they called because it was late. Being helpful is great, but assuming that I would want the flowers on MULTIPLE occasions after being told NO on each occasion really pisses me off.  FMIL was fully aware from seeing the venue, knowing that they provided beautiful centerpieces, and knowing from our discussion AT THE VENUE that I wanted different flowers (daisies and yellow roses) for my wedding, that I would be getting my own florist.  She knew this...hell, my mother even said that the flowers I chose are a beautiful combination...right in front of FMIL.  FMIL still went ahead and tried to "change" my mind on the flowers.  I have held my ground with it.....she asked again LAST NIGHT while she was here for dinner. What part of NO and Thank you doesn't she get?


      My sister, who is my MOH, thought it was odd but chalked it up to them not knowing my girls, even though we introduced them at lunch that same day..I would not be comfortable enough to carry on conversations for an afternoon of lunch and bridesmaid dress shopping with multiple women that I did not know, I have been in that situation before and it was absolutely miserable....and I thought they were getting along smoothly then.  Hah. FSIL and FMIL complained that the dress that all of the girls decided and agreed upon was too "sexy."  How in the hell is a full length satin halter gown, too "sexy?"  I don't get it.... Is it form fitted? Is the neckline deep? Do they dress conservatively typically?

    They were talking all through lunch and it's really hard for FMIL and FSIL to say that they don't know my SIL and sister as they have been to a couple family dinners.  I can see where they may have been shy around my girlfriend, but not my sister and SIL.  The dress neckline is not deep nor is it super form fitting.  FSIL is known to just wear sweats and t-shirts year round.  So I'm guessing FSIL was uncomfortable with the dress?? But she picked it and said she loved it, so complaining after the fact makes no sense.....

    My sister was looking for more help than that....like help with setting up the night before, etc.  If your sister planned the event, then it was up to her to put it together.  If she asked them to contribute without them offering first, then that was rude on her part. No, they couldn't be bothered because they had to work....HELLO!!!! MY entire bridal party works for a living and has requested time off to be apart of my special day, and don't complain one bit.  I'm sure they do complain, but it's not like I'm demanding them to take multiple days off.  I always schedule things when I know that the girls all have off.  How many things have you scheduled? I asked my BM's if they wanted to look at dresses with me, and that's it. There is nothing else required of a BM other than showing up that day. I know that I would be upset if my days off were spent helping with someone else's wedding. 

    The whole reason why my sister asked for help was because FMIL had said on numerous occasions she would help plan, etc.  Originally FMIL wanted to have 2 separate showers....then she wanted 1....then she wanted 2....then she wanted 1.  So we settled at one.  My sister made sure she checked with all BM what their schedules were and found that this one Sunday would be perfect.  I had nothing to contribute to it as it was a surprise.  My sister was in constant contact with FMIL who basically put up a wall and refused to help.  I have no idea as to why she would refuse to help.  My aunt spoke with my FMIL and got some insane answer that because my sister was in contact with FSMIL she didn't want to help.  That's a bunch of bs if you ask me.  
    Also, I have only scheduled the BM dress shopping with lunch and then a dinner party with the entire bridal party over the summer.  The invite for the dinner party went out a MONTH a head of time to which FSIL said that she would be working until 4:30 (library closes at 4 on Saturdays) and wouldn't be able to make it.  I told her that yes it starts at 4 but it goes until whenever and she said she couldn't make it.  She had a month notice....then she went on to complain the day after the party that she didn't have enough notice....a month isn't enough? FMIL was at the party for a few hours and said that she was sorry FSIL couldn't make it...and gave an excuse that she didn't have a babysitter (when I specifically told FSIL to bring her son as my nephew would be there too.....)  Oye.

     This is frustrating, it is rude of her to assume that her son will be a ring bearer, it is completely up to you and your FI to decide

    I told this to FI numerous times and he has told FSIL to chill out with the whole ring bearer thing...but yet she still continues.  It's frustrating.  

    get over yourself for one friggin day!) and sit with the people I want you to sit with, Just clarifying, you want her to sit with her ex-husband, correct? If so, then she is not in the wrong. There is a reason they are divorced, don't make her sit at the same table as Wife #2, that could be extremely hurtful. she gets her way....AGAIN! She pulled the "I'm paying for part of the reception" card...when in reality the $ she is giving us is going to taxes/service charge and gratuity. That is still money you are using for the wedding, those who pay get a say. 

    Yes, in the beginning before her negative and rude comments about FSMIL and FFIL I wanted all of the parents to sit at one table, close to the sweet heart table.  FMIL made the comment of "I don't want to sit anywhere near FFIL and his nasty new wife (FSMIL). I will not sit there and you can't make me" while we were at the venue looking at it.  I had said that I'd like to have all the parents sit together and that is when she sounded off.  She then said it, again, in front of both of my parents, my FFIL, FSMIL, FSIL, SIL, brothers and sister at a family dinner shortly after.  FMIL also made a negative and rude comment to my Aunt when she was trying to understand who was who at my bridal shower before I arrived.  My aunt meant no ill-will towards her and was just looking for clarification and she got the "That's the slutbag that my ex-husband married."  That's not what I call nice....it's been nothing but rude.  FMIL can't be an adult and leave things at the door for even a 3 hour bridal shower.  WTF? Seriously.   Yea, she may get "her" way because she's paying, but FI and I are paying a good majority of the bills ourselves and FI has said that he doesn't appreciate his mother's behavior.  From what I understand she was the same way when FSIL got married....but it wasn't as negative....she was just demanding.  She's trying to be demanding now and I won't have it....I'm not rolling over.  She got the evening reception what more does she want (and don't even get me started on the way she coddles FI's nephew).



    I am beyond frustrated with both of them.....This crap continues every time we talk with them.  Even last night.  Oye.
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  • kss20 said:

    I usually try to be nice, but I'm not feelin' it today, so...

    1.  You sound like a total brat. I'm far from being a brat...if I really wanted to be a brat I would, but this is absolutely nothing.

    2.  FMIL gave you $2500.  That's a lot of money to most people and worth recognizing her for. She will be recognized...just not on the invite that FMIL is demanding that we have printed.  We are printing our own.  FMIL, FFIL, FSMIL and my parents will be recognized in the program, as well as in other aspects of the wedding...just not on the invites. 

    3.  You're mad that your FMIL and FSIL tried to HELP you by offering you her flowers.  I really don't understand how that makes you irate, but... w/e. When it first was offered, I was blindsided....even after FMIL heard me say that I was going to have Daisies and yellow roses for my flowers.  I said no then....then they asked again and again numerous times after the fact. 

    4. Why in God's name would you try to force your FMIL to sit with her ex husband and his new wife?  That's so inconsiderate! I wasn't forcing.  I had said at the venue that I would like to have all the parents at one table and that is when SHE went off and was rude/nasty.  My FI had thought it was a great idea as it would show 2 families coming together.  But with FMIL throwing her fits and has been doing these fits a lot (see previous response to @Rebl90).  I was watering down her negativity as to not write a book on her.  FI and I thought she could put things aside for ONE day.  FI even talked to her about being an adult and leaving it at the door for one day....she said she would but still this shit is continuing. 

    5. No one is obligated to throw you a shower or do anything for you, really.  In fact, you FMIL and FSIL are NOT throwing you a shower?  So why do you expect them to do anything.  Baking food would be very nice of them.  You, on the other hand, are not nice.  Not nice at all.  FMIL stated that she wanted to do 2 showers...then 1...then 2....then 1.  She said that she would help plan, etc.  She didn't do anything.  My sister reached out to ask for her help and she put a wall up......found out later it was all because my FSMIL helped with the bridal shower.  WTF?  I wasn't looking to have a shower.  I didn't really care if I had one.  Yes, it was nice, but after hearing all the negative things said by FMIL both in my presence and not at the bridal shower, I'm very upset with her actions.  She's not being adult in any way.  A real adult would let things go for a day and help when asked.  She is giving all this "help" to me when I haven't asked for it....but yet when it is asked, she can't.

    6.  What you said about your FSIL's child is boorish and terrible and you better pray that one day someone doesn't talk about your children that way.  He's, how old?  2?!?  Jesus, woman!  I have a 12 year old of my own that had his fair share of issues that I spent copious amounts of money on.  FSIL is being blind to the fact that her son has issues....she sits there and asks ME questions about her son that she should be asking a DOCTOR and I've told her this.  She continues to say that her son is a ring bearer when it's NOT her decision to make.  I have every right to be upset over it.  

    7.  Did you ever think that your FMIL and FSIL were off on their own at dress shopping because you're a total bitch and they get the hint that you don't like them? I was not being a total bitch to them at the bridesmaid dress shopping trip.  I was encouraging them to have conversations with my mother and the other girls there.  They just refused.  I've been nothing but super nice to EVERYONE.

    I can't with you right now... I just..... I can't....

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  • I just can't wait for our wedding day to get here, so I can tell FMIL and FSIL where to go with out being made out to be a bitch.  It's my day dammit...you do as I say!!!!!

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    Nope, you're gonna be a bitch no matter what, sorry. From your post, I can see why they're acting this way toward you. And it's not your day. It's just not. It's a day for you, your fiance, your family, your friends, his family, his friends. Making it a selfish thing makes you even more bitchy.
    WOW.  They have been acting this way to me the entire time FI and I have been engaged.  I have been super nice.  I've invited them to our house with dinner with my family numerous times (before our engagement and even after) and they treat me like this in return?  We have offered to babysit because FSIL has said that she wants us to spend more time with FI's nephew but when it comes up to us offering she says we'll see.  I have done nothing wrong to them....
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  • I just can't wait for our wedding day to get here, so I can tell FMIL and FSIL where to go with out being made out to be a bitch.  It's my day dammit...you do as I say!!!!!

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    Nope, you're gonna be a bitch no matter what, sorry. From your post, I can see why they're acting this way toward you. And it's not your day. It's just not. It's a day for you, your fiance, your family, your friends, his family, his friends. Making it a selfish thing makes you even more bitchy.
    WOW.  They have been acting this way to me the entire time FI and I have been engaged.  I have been super nice.  I've invited them to our house with dinner with my family numerous times (before our engagement and even after) and they treat me like this in return?  We have offered to babysit because FSIL has said that she wants us to spend more time with FI's nephew but when it comes up to us offering she says we'll see.  I have done nothing wrong to them....

    Oh wow, you've invited them to dinner before? That's just so generous that it totally makes up for the fact that you're being awful toward them otherwise.

    If someone is contributing money and wants to be on the invitation, then they should be allowed to be on the invitation or you shouldn't accept the money. My husband and I paid for everything except the reception food for our wedding which was probably about $500 as opposed to about $7500 we spent on everything else, but we still said 'together with their families' on our invitations because we respect our parents and wanted them included entirely.

    You're really playing the victim here, and I can't figure out if it's obnoxious or hilarious.


  • kss20 said:

    I usually try to be nice, but I'm not feelin' it today, so...

    1.  You sound like a total brat. I'm far from being a brat...if I really wanted to be a brat I would, but this is absolutely nothing.

    This is nothing?  That's frightening!

     

    2.  FMIL gave you $2500.  That's a lot of money to most people and worth recognizing her for. She will be recognized...just not on the invite that FMIL is demanding that we have printed.  We are printing our own.  FMIL, FFIL, FSMIL and my parents will be recognized in the program, as well as in other aspects of the wedding...just not on the invites. 

    Usually when someone is hosting (aka PAYING for part of the wedding) they get to be on the invite.  Also, just because she made a suggestion does not mean you should start raging about it.  You have anger issues.

     

    3.  You're mad that your FMIL and FSIL tried to HELP you by offering you her flowers.  I really don't understand how that makes you irate, but... w/e. When it first was offered, I was blindsided....even after FMIL heard me say that I was going to have Daisies and yellow roses for my flowers.  I said no then....then they asked again and again numerous times after the fact. 

    AGAIN!  They were just trying to help. And AGAIN!  You clearly have anger issues if this makes you that mad.

    4. Why in God's name would you try to force your FMIL to sit with her ex husband and his new wife?  That's so inconsiderate! I wasn't forcing.  I had said at the venue that I would like to have all the parents at one table and that is when SHE went off and was rude/nasty.  My FI had thought it was a great idea as it would show 2 families coming together.  But with FMIL throwing her fits and has been doing these fits a lot (see previous response to @Rebl90).  I was watering down her negativity as to not write a book on her.  FI and I thought she could put things aside for ONE day.  FI even talked to her about being an adult and leaving it at the door for one day....she said she would but still this shit is continuing. 

    You're an inconsiderate bitch.  You say your "not forcing" but you're throwing a tantrum when she doesn't want to sit with her ex husband and new wife.  And then you have the audacity to say SHE needs to grow up?  HA!

    5. No one is obligated to throw you a shower or do anything for you, really.  In fact, you FMIL and FSIL are NOT throwing you a shower?  So why do you expect them to do anything.  Baking food would be very nice of them.  You, on the other hand, are not nice.  Not nice at all.  FMIL stated that she wanted to do 2 showers...then 1...then 2....then 1.  She said that she would help plan, etc.  She didn't do anything.  My sister reached out to ask for her help and she put a wall up......found out later it was all because my FSMIL helped with the bridal shower.  WTF?  I wasn't looking to have a shower.  I didn't really care if I had one.  Yes, it was nice, but after hearing all the negative things said by FMIL both in my presence and not at the bridal shower, I'm very upset with her actions.  She's not being adult in any way.  A real adult would let things go for a day and help when asked.  She is giving all this "help" to me when I haven't asked for it....but yet when it is asked, she can't.

    Maybe you don't understand how showers work.  If your sister was hosting this, your FMIL and FSIL do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT have to do ANYTHING!  If THEY send out invitations and plan a party, that is THEM hosting.  Sounds like they got sick of your attitude and decided they didn't want to throw you a party anymore.  Suck it up and move on.

    6.  What you said about your FSIL's child is boorish and terrible and you better pray that one day someone doesn't talk about your children that way.  He's, how old?  2?!?  Jesus, woman!  I have a 12 year old of my own that had his fair share of issues that I spent copious amounts of money on.  FSIL is being blind to the fact that her son has issues....she sits there and asks ME questions about her son that she should be asking a DOCTOR and I've told her this.  She continues to say that her son is a ring bearer when it's NOT her decision to make.  I have every right to be upset over it.  

    Like a PP said, you have no right to have any say or judgment on this.  This is not your child so keep your nose out.

    7.  Did you ever think that your FMIL and FSIL were off on their own at dress shopping because you're a total bitch and they get the hint that you don't like them? I was not being a total bitch to them at the bridesmaid dress shopping trip.  I was encouraging them to have conversations with my mother and the other girls there.  They just refused.  I've been nothing but super nice to EVERYONE.

    You clearly have NOT been "nothing but super nice" because you're on here being a total bitch! 

    In summary, if I were your fiancé I would reconsider marrying you because it sounds like you're going to destroy his relationship with his family.  So good luck to him.


  • Everyone has hit the high points but I am going to go with the seating issue.

    You are NUTS to expect her to sit with her ex and his wife she hates for her son's wedding.

    I am a 4 time MOB, 2 of those girls are my bio DDs and I had the most amicable divorce ever from their father.  We sit in the same pew for their weddings, they get a picture of their nuclear family (me, their dad, their sister, and the bride) without stepparents, as well as with stepparents.  I do not want to sit with him at dinner.

    We each host our own tables with our own VIP guests.  It makes for quite a lovely evening to be able to sit with my OOT family rather than my ex and  his wife.  My SILs have all had parents who are still married to one another so there are 3 parents tables and it goes swimmingly.

    Do not force these people to sit together.  You are dead wrong on that one.  Your FMIL does sound bitchy, but I totally agree with  her on that one and you just aren't thinking this through well at all.
  • I really can't get past the fact that you're making assumptions on a child who isn't even 2 yet based on his verbal or non-verbal status. 
  • kmmssg said:

    Everyone has hit the high points but I am going to go with the seating issue.


    You are NUTS to expect her to sit with her ex and his wife she hates for her son's wedding.

    I am a 4 time MOB, 2 of those girls are my bio DDs and I had the most amicable divorce ever from their father.  We sit in the same pew for their weddings, they get a picture of their nuclear family (me, their dad, their sister, and the bride) without stepparents, as well as with stepparents.  I do not want to sit with him at dinner.

    We each host our own tables with our own VIP guests.  It makes for quite a lovely evening to be able to sit with my OOT family rather than my ex and  his wife.  My SILs have all had parents who are still married to one another so there are 3 parents tables and it goes swimmingly.

    Do not force these people to sit together.  You are dead wrong on that one.  Your FMIL does sound bitchy, but I totally agree with  her on that one and you just aren't thinking this through well at all.
    I wasn't going to force anyone to sit with anyone else. I said it was an idea and she demanded to not sit with him. She can't be nice to them when it comes to other family functions and I tried to see if maybe our wedding will be different. She is being very rude and hurt FFIL's feelings the way FMIL said things to other family members. I know what happened between FFIL and FMIL but she still should be able to be amicable for a wedding even if she doesn't want to. She's just being quite bitchy about it. FMIL will have her own table but if she says anything negative before the day I will flip. I don't appreciate it and it's not good for my 12 year old to hear it.

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  • I really can't get past the fact that you're making assumptions on a child who isn't even 2 yet based on his verbal or non-verbal status. 

    I have a degree in child development so I can make assumptions. I am not a doctor and when she's asked questions about it I've told her to ask her doctor. When she continually asks I tell her the same. He just had an appt and when I asked if she discussed what she's been asking me about she said no. I can compare and he certainly is not on par with where he should be.
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  • ~pats head~ ok. You're right. I'm wrong. I know nothing about child development and necessary milestones. It's not like there is a VAST development difference between the ages of 2 and 3. I'll go sit in my corner now since you are the expert because you have a child development degree. Which I also have. And a child who is severely delayed so I'm immersed in this stuff 24/7.
  • ~pats head~ ok. You're right. I'm wrong. I know nothing about child development and necessary milestones. It's not like there is a VAST development difference between the ages of 2 and 3. I'll go sit in my corner now since you are the expert because you have a child development degree. Which I also have. And a child who is severely delayed so I'm immersed in this stuff 24/7.

    And so am I. I deal with it 24/7 as well so when she asks for advice I tell her to speak with the doctor. I can't tell her what to do because each child is different. Her son is developmentally slow where as my nephew is above par. Big difference hence my skepticism.
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  • OP -- Everyone else in this post hit the nail on the head. You're creating your own drama with your bad attitude toward your FMIL and FSIL. Grow up and treat people like family -- because in less than 5 months they WILL be your family.


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    I am on no way creating my own drama. FMIL and FSIL are causing issues and I'm not the only one to complain. My FI is also complaining and gets the brunt of it from his mother and sister.
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  • OMG. I cannot understand you.

    If you are not forcing your FMIL to sit with her ex and she said no, why are you whining about it?  And is a developmentally challenged child not GOOD enough to be in YOUR wedding?  Who cares if they are not as advanced as your nephew. 

    But go on.  Keep saying the same things over and over again to defend yourself.  I'm sure you'll believe yourself soon when you say you're not a bitch.

  • I find it scary when so many people are telling a person, "No, you're wrong about this and here's why" and they just keep arguing back.  You have made some WRONG choices.  They're wrong, no matter how you feel about them.  Have fun being married into this family b/c it's going to be hell for you until you change your attitude.
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