How many people did you REALLY invite?

wrigleyville · April 2014

Venue Capacity: 50, but could stretch to 60

Invited: 40

Actual number: 43 (three guests started dating someone after the invitations went out, and we told them to please bring them along so we could meet them)

Wedding Location: Las Vegas

Guests' Location: Michigan, Illinois, Arizona, California, Florida, Ohio, Georgia

Yup, 100% attendance (and then some) for a destination wedding, and it was not held during a holiday weekend.

Plan for 100%. Always.

crunchymamaof2 · April 2014

AlexaF2014 said:

It keeps getting brought up; my mother offered, after we booked the venue, to pay for the catering/drinks/rentals, which would honestly double what we're spending on a one-day event. Kinda why I gave her a lot of leeway, but when I realized I was cutting out some of my close friends to fit around her guest list, the temptation of "but they won't alllll show... you can invite the people yoooooou want.... it's yooooooooour day" kept whispering in my ear... She could afford to "bump up" to a larger space, but again I really don't want to do that to fit 6 more people I don't want into a space I like less. Does that make me a control freak?

No it just makes you guilty of poor planning. The temptation is strong, I totally get that. But you're just asking for trouble here. Does your mother understand that you're expecting her to pay the fee if the larger room is necessary?

crunchymamaof2 · April 2014

To answer the original question, I'm not sure how many we invited in total. It was around 80. We ended up with around 65-70 including us and our kids (had about 10-12 kids in addition to ours). We knew we could afford up to 90 adults and we'd be paying for 60 minimum. The venue could hold up to 300 so we knew we were more than fine there.

delujm0 · April 2014

Venue capacity (at seated rounds, not for fire code, which we were informed of before booking it): 176

Venue Capacity when you are having food stations and a dance floor at seated rounds (a number we were informed of LAST WEEK after invites were already out - venue was under construction when we booked so they weren't great at telling us useful information): 152

Invited: 202 (including ourselves); 38 "they won't acutally come!" invites from FMIL. 85% OOT.

RSVP date is next Saturday, but based on our current estimations we'll wind up with 135. And FYI: of the 38 "they won't actually come!" invites, 18 are actually coming. So plan for that. Lucky for us (or actually not lucky for us because these are our friends who we wanted to be there) several people we expected to come had to decline for various reasons. So we'll wind up being just fine.

If you want a dance floor, I'd advise not inviting over 90% of your venue's capacity for seated rounds. If you also want food stations/buffet tables, i'd drop that to 80%. my sister is getting married next year and using my experience as a guide she booked a venue that can easily accomodate twice her actual guest list. i wish i had done the same thing.

KatWAG · April 2014

We invited 276 people, including us and the wedding party. We had another 15 ish people (vendors, wedding planners, venue coordinators, etc) 225 guests showed up. And our venue could hold 400 comfortably.

We had extra space so we added another bar and extra comfy seating.

Fran1985 · April 2014

Venue holds 200 but I think that would be tight. Our guest list is at 150 but I'm hoping the final number is closer to 130. I can afford and fit 150 though.

photokitty · April 2014

We invited and budgeted for 335. Room capacity was 400 with the dance floor. We had ours in conjunction with a holiday, so out decline rate was higher than expect...but we planned for and expected 100%.

I choose a giant room to accommodate all my invited guests. I liked another venue, but the space could not hold all our invited guests. It could have fit all that accepted, but I would never have taken that risk

Inkdancer · April 2014

Our venue can fit 150. We have invited 125 and are expecting more like 100 to actually attend.

twitterbird · April 2014

I see so many people inviting more than capacity expecting so many to decline. What if they don't? I'm not inviting my cousins that live on the other side of the country - ie I don't see them much and we're not remotely close. That cut out a lot of people for me.

HisGirlFriday13 · April 2014

Laurie Roche said:

I see so many people inviting more than capacity expecting so many to decline. What if they don't? I'm not inviting my cousins that live on the other side of the country - ie I don't see them much and we're not remotely close. That cut out a lot of people for me.

Then you are royally, properly, thoroughly effing screwed, that's what. And there are TONS of stories on the boards about people who had 100% attendance, close to 100% attendance, or who invited 'courtesy invites, they won't come, but they'll send a gift,' people and had those people actually show up.

My brother and SIL invited 225 people to their wedding, and 221 came. That's a 98-percent acceptance rate.

It's why you also see lots of people saying, 'We planned for and budgeted and can properly host 100% of our guests.'

PrettyGirlLost · April 2014

HisGirlFriday13 said:

Laurie Roche said:

I see so many people inviting more than capacity expecting so many to decline. What if they don't? I'm not inviting my cousins that live on the other side of the country - ie I don't see them much and we're not remotely close. That cut out a lot of people for me.

Then you are royally, properly, thoroughly effing screwed, that's what. And there are TONS of stories on the boards about people who had 100% attendance, close to 100% attendance, or who invited 'courtesy invites, they won't come, but they'll send a gift,' people and had those people actually show up.

My brother and SIL invited 225 people to their wedding, and 221 came. That's a 98-percent acceptance rate.

It's why you also see lots of people saying, 'We planned for and budgeted and can properly host 100% of our guests.'

Lol! Yep, that about sums it up.

Our venue capacity is 200 and we are planning on inviting 190 or so.

AlexaF2014 · April 2014

Okay, this is a bit why I wanted to ask; I was really worried about getting 100% attendance, but mom/others kept brushing it off as "not everyone will come." I tend to have unwarranted anxiety and wasn't sure if I was panicking over nothing or not. I brought up the "you have more friends invited than I do" point, and mom agreed that we will look over the list again to get within capacity! Thank you everyone for giving me courage to put my foot down on this, I really hate confrontation of any form, but I'm glad I did this time.

This did bring up another point about vendors and officiants; do the photographers and DJ get a table seat at a along with the meal? If so, who in the world would I seat them with (sorry if a rude or obvious question, I obviously have no idea what the norm is)? Also, do you send an invite to your officiant, or give them a +plus one if they are a Catholic priest?

Maggie0829 · April 2014

AlexaF2014 said:

Okay, this is a bit why I wanted to ask; I was really worried about getting 100% attendance, but mom/others kept brushing it off as "not everyone will come." I tend to have unwarranted anxiety and wasn't sure if I was panicking over nothing or not. I brought up the "you have more friends invited than I do" point, and mom agreed that we will look over the list again to get within capacity! Thank you everyone for giving me courage to put my foot down on this, I really hate confrontation of any form, but I'm glad I did this time.

This did bring up another point about vendors and officiants; do the photographers and DJ get a table seat at a along with the meal? If so, who in the world would I seat them with (sorry if a rude or obvious question, I obviously have no idea what the norm is)? Also, do you send an invite to your officiant, or give them a +plus one if they are a Catholic priest?

For your DJ and photographer, I would look at your contract and also ask them where they would like to be seated for dinner. Many times the DJ likes to stay at their booth since they will be playing music during dinner. The photographer, well that is on a case by case basis, but mine sat at one of our high top tables that we had out for cocktail hour. They didn't eat for very long because they were up and taking pictures while we did our table visits.

As for your officiant, if this you are close to them or they have been your priest for years then you can certainly invite them. You do not have to give them a plus one. But if you do not know them very well and are mainly just using them to marry you (like you picked a church you like and then met the priest once or twice and that is it) then you do not have to invite them. At that point they are just another vendor like, say, your ceremony musicians.

NYCBruin · April 2014

AlexaF2014 said:

Okay, this is a bit why I wanted to ask; I was really worried about getting 100% attendance, but mom/others kept brushing it off as "not everyone will come." I tend to have unwarranted anxiety and wasn't sure if I was panicking over nothing or not. I brought up the "you have more friends invited than I do" point, and mom agreed that we will look over the list again to get within capacity! Thank you everyone for giving me courage to put my foot down on this, I really hate confrontation of any form, but I'm glad I did this time.

This did bring up another point about vendors and officiants; do the photographers and DJ get a table seat at a along with the meal? If so, who in the world would I seat them with (sorry if a rude or obvious question, I obviously have no idea what the norm is)? Also, do you send an invite to your officiant, or give them a +plus one if they are a Catholic priest?

On photographers/DJs, check your contract and also speak with your venue. Our venue has a separate room with tables for our vendors so they have a place to take breaks away from guests and can eat at separate times (our band for example, staggers their meals so that at least some of the band is playing throughout the entire meal).

We are inviting our priest. No plus-one. Don't be surprised if he doesn't come though as priests have a lot of demands on their time.

PrettyGirlLost · April 2014

NYCBruin said:

AlexaF2014 said:

Okay, this is a bit why I wanted to ask; I was really worried about getting 100% attendance, but mom/others kept brushing it off as "not everyone will come." I tend to have unwarranted anxiety and wasn't sure if I was panicking over nothing or not. I brought up the "you have more friends invited than I do" point, and mom agreed that we will look over the list again to get within capacity! Thank you everyone for giving me courage to put my foot down on this, I really hate confrontation of any form, but I'm glad I did this time.

This did bring up another point about vendors and officiants; do the photographers and DJ get a table seat at a along with the meal? If so, who in the world would I seat them with (sorry if a rude or obvious question, I obviously have no idea what the norm is)? Also, do you send an invite to your officiant, or give them a +plus one if they are a Catholic priest?

On photographers/DJs, check your contract and also speak with your venue. Our venue has a separate room with tables for our vendors so they have a place to take breaks away from guests and can eat at separate times (our band for example, staggers their meals so that at least some of the band is playing throughout the entire meal).

We are inviting our priest. No plus-one. Don't be surprised if he doesn't come though as priests have a lot of demands on their time.

Once nice thing about Catholic priests, right? ;-)

I'm kidding!

NYCBruin · April 2014

PrettyGirlLost said:

NYCBruin said:

AlexaF2014 said:

Okay, this is a bit why I wanted to ask; I was really worried about getting 100% attendance, but mom/others kept brushing it off as "not everyone will come." I tend to have unwarranted anxiety and wasn't sure if I was panicking over nothing or not. I brought up the "you have more friends invited than I do" point, and mom agreed that we will look over the list again to get within capacity! Thank you everyone for giving me courage to put my foot down on this, I really hate confrontation of any form, but I'm glad I did this time.

This did bring up another point about vendors and officiants; do the photographers and DJ get a table seat at a along with the meal? If so, who in the world would I seat them with (sorry if a rude or obvious question, I obviously have no idea what the norm is)? Also, do you send an invite to your officiant, or give them a +plus one if they are a Catholic priest?

On photographers/DJs, check your contract and also speak with your venue. Our venue has a separate room with tables for our vendors so they have a place to take breaks away from guests and can eat at separate times (our band for example, staggers their meals so that at least some of the band is playing throughout the entire meal).

We are inviting our priest. No plus-one. Don't be surprised if he doesn't come though as priests have a lot of demands on their time.

Once nice thing about Catholic priests, right? ;-)

I'm kidding!

Ha!

HisGirlFriday13 · April 2014

NYCBruin said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

NYCBruin said:

AlexaF2014 said:

Okay, this is a bit why I wanted to ask; I was really worried about getting 100% attendance, but mom/others kept brushing it off as "not everyone will come." I tend to have unwarranted anxiety and wasn't sure if I was panicking over nothing or not. I brought up the "you have more friends invited than I do" point, and mom agreed that we will look over the list again to get within capacity! Thank you everyone for giving me courage to put my foot down on this, I really hate confrontation of any form, but I'm glad I did this time.

This did bring up another point about vendors and officiants; do the photographers and DJ get a table seat at a along with the meal? If so, who in the world would I seat them with (sorry if a rude or obvious question, I obviously have no idea what the norm is)? Also, do you send an invite to your officiant, or give them a +plus one if they are a Catholic priest?

On photographers/DJs, check your contract and also speak with your venue. Our venue has a separate room with tables for our vendors so they have a place to take breaks away from guests and can eat at separate times (our band for example, staggers their meals so that at least some of the band is playing throughout the entire meal).

We are inviting our priest. No plus-one. Don't be surprised if he doesn't come though as priests have a lot of demands on their time.

Once nice thing about Catholic priests, right? ;-)

I'm kidding!

Ha!

Except that then you have a single person, and if everyone else you invited is one-half of a couple and they all fit neatly at 8-top tables in groups of two, it's hard to find somewhere to put him!

(We put him with my parents (2 ppl), my brother, SIL, and nephew (3 ppl), and my dad's closest friend and his wife (2 ppl), so he was the eighth person at a table of 8.)

PrettyGirlLost · April 2014

HisGirlFriday13 said:

NYCBruin said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

NYCBruin said:

AlexaF2014 said:

Okay, this is a bit why I wanted to ask; I was really worried about getting 100% attendance, but mom/others kept brushing it off as "not everyone will come." I tend to have unwarranted anxiety and wasn't sure if I was panicking over nothing or not. I brought up the "you have more friends invited than I do" point, and mom agreed that we will look over the list again to get within capacity! Thank you everyone for giving me courage to put my foot down on this, I really hate confrontation of any form, but I'm glad I did this time.

This did bring up another point about vendors and officiants; do the photographers and DJ get a table seat at a along with the meal? If so, who in the world would I seat them with (sorry if a rude or obvious question, I obviously have no idea what the norm is)? Also, do you send an invite to your officiant, or give them a +plus one if they are a Catholic priest?

On photographers/DJs, check your contract and also speak with your venue. Our venue has a separate room with tables for our vendors so they have a place to take breaks away from guests and can eat at separate times (our band for example, staggers their meals so that at least some of the band is playing throughout the entire meal).

We are inviting our priest. No plus-one. Don't be surprised if he doesn't come though as priests have a lot of demands on their time.

Once nice thing about Catholic priests, right? ;-)

I'm kidding!

Ha!

Except that then you have a single person, and if everyone else you invited is one-half of a couple and they all fit neatly at 8-top tables in groups of two, it's hard to find somewhere to put him!

(We put him with my parents (2 ppl), my brother, SIL, and nephew (3 ppl), and my dad's closest friend and his wife (2 ppl), so he was the eighth person at a table of 8.)

Touche! I really hope that our priest is able to make our reception, because he is just such a nice, jovial, funny man.

BTW, for anyone lurking, it's proper to send your officiant, and their SO if they have one, an actual wedding invitation as you would any guest, right?

AlexaF2014 · April 2014

Maggie0829 said:

AlexaF2014 said:

Okay, this is a bit why I wanted to ask; I was really worried about getting 100% attendance, but mom/others kept brushing it off as "not everyone will come." I tend to have unwarranted anxiety and wasn't sure if I was panicking over nothing or not. I brought up the "you have more friends invited than I do" point, and mom agreed that we will look over the list again to get within capacity! Thank you everyone for giving me courage to put my foot down on this, I really hate confrontation of any form, but I'm glad I did this time.

This did bring up another point about vendors and officiants; do the photographers and DJ get a table seat at a along with the meal? If so, who in the world would I seat them with (sorry if a rude or obvious question, I obviously have no idea what the norm is)? Also, do you send an invite to your officiant, or give them a +plus one if they are a Catholic priest?

For your DJ and photographer, I would look at your contract and also ask them where they would like to be seated for dinner. Many times the DJ likes to stay at their booth since they will be playing music during dinner. The photographer, well that is on a case by case basis, but mine sat at one of our high top tables that we had out for cocktail hour. They didn't eat for very long because they were up and taking pictures while we did our table visits.

As for your officiant, if this you are close to them or they have been your priest for years then you can certainly invite them. You do not have to give them a plus one. But if you do not know them very well and are mainly just using them to marry you (like you picked a church you like and then met the priest once or twice and that is it) then you do not have to invite them. At that point they are just another vendor like, say, your ceremony musicians.

By the time we're married, I will have been a parishioner at my church for a year (just long enough to be allowed to get married there. Yay!), and while I've only spoken to the priest a handful of times for less than 30 each, he really is a great guy. I think it would be polite to invite him anyway, but like @NYCBruin said, priests generally have constraints on their time and I don't want to come off as presumptuous. Thoughts?

NYCBruin · April 2014

AlexaF2014 said:

Maggie0829 said:

AlexaF2014 said:

Okay, this is a bit why I wanted to ask; I was really worried about getting 100% attendance, but mom/others kept brushing it off as "not everyone will come." I tend to have unwarranted anxiety and wasn't sure if I was panicking over nothing or not. I brought up the "you have more friends invited than I do" point, and mom agreed that we will look over the list again to get within capacity! Thank you everyone for giving me courage to put my foot down on this, I really hate confrontation of any form, but I'm glad I did this time.

This did bring up another point about vendors and officiants; do the photographers and DJ get a table seat at a along with the meal? If so, who in the world would I seat them with (sorry if a rude or obvious question, I obviously have no idea what the norm is)? Also, do you send an invite to your officiant, or give them a +plus one if they are a Catholic priest?

For your DJ and photographer, I would look at your contract and also ask them where they would like to be seated for dinner. Many times the DJ likes to stay at their booth since they will be playing music during dinner. The photographer, well that is on a case by case basis, but mine sat at one of our high top tables that we had out for cocktail hour. They didn't eat for very long because they were up and taking pictures while we did our table visits.

As for your officiant, if this you are close to them or they have been your priest for years then you can certainly invite them. You do not have to give them a plus one. But if you do not know them very well and are mainly just using them to marry you (like you picked a church you like and then met the priest once or twice and that is it) then you do not have to invite them. At that point they are just another vendor like, say, your ceremony musicians.

By the time we're married, I will have been a parishioner at my church for a year (just long enough to be allowed to get married there. Yay!), and while I've only spoken to the priest a handful of times for less than 30 each, he really is a great guy. I think it would be polite to invite him anyway, but like @NYCBruin said, priests generally have constraints on their time and I don't want to come off as presumptuous. Thoughts?

I don't think it comes off as presumptuous at all! An invitation is not a summons. He is free to decline the invitation just like anyone else you're inviting. FWIW I think this is fairly common--I don't know anyone who didn't invite their priest to the reception.

Cookie Pusher · April 2014

Our venue capacity is 200, and we knew we could never come up with 200 people we wanted to invite unless we started inviting acquaintances. Our optimal budget covers 100 guests (vendor meals are free). Our max budget covers 150 guests. As it stands right now, if we have 100% acceptance (we already know we won't), we would have 116 including ourselves and the vendors.

A lot of people told us we should invite everyone since we'd get a lot of declines but would still get gifts. I just don't understand that mentality. There's no way I'd want to embarrass myself by having to bar people from entering our venue because we're over capacity. Mortifying!

twitterbird · April 2014

I'm feeding the DJ and photographers and have included them in my count. My venue can seat 160 and I currently have 110 on my guest list. I have budgeted for 110 as well although I'm hoping for closer to 100. I haven't sent out invites yet and there are a 2 couples I'm on the fence about.

I'm standing in a wedding this summer and the bride has sent invites to over 200 people. Her venue holds about 160.

sofakingmad · April 2014

When I heard that people over invited and hoped for declines, I seriously never thought that people would invite over the capacity of their venue.

THAT IS THE DUMBEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD.

I mean, if you over invite out of your budget, you can probably move money from other budgets in order to make ends meet, but why would you ever risk having more people than your venue can hold.

I am dumbfounded.

lyndausvi · April 2014

DragonBlood13 said:

When I heard that people over invited and hoped for declines, I seriously never thought that people would invite over the capacity of their venue.

THAT IS THE DUMBEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD.

I mean, if you over invite out of your budget, you can probably move money from other budgets in order to make ends meet, but why would you ever risk having more people than your venue can hold.

I am dumbfounded.

It makes me sad to think that if I declined an invitation the couple is at home doing the happy dance that I'm not coming. :-(

CamiSelene · April 2014

We invited just under 200 (room capacity is double that - if needed; but can also be made smaller and more intimate if needed too... yay movable walls! lol) and budgeted for 100% attendance even though we expect much less to actually come (wedding is on a Monday and almost all guests are OOT). I am actually extremely surprised how many will actually be coming so far, though. We thought maybe 130 would actually be able to come (because we have a few overseas guests and lots of elderly/sick family from OOT, plus the wedding is a Monday) but now we're thinking it'll probably be closer to 150/160ish. Always plan for 100% and new relationships!

theartistformerlyknownas · April 2014

lyndausvi said:

Your question is funny. How many people did you REALLY invite? Like there were people we didn't really invite?

We invited 174 people (100% OOT). I can't remember the venue capacity other than we were under that amount.

We budgeted for everyone we invited. I don't really get the concept of budgeting for less than you invite. Seems too stressful to hope for declines. IDK, seems strange to me.

We had 145 say yes.

For the record, our initial food "budget" was only ever a pie in the sky ballpark without knowing exactly how much the food (not chosen yet - tasting next weekend!) and alcohol (consumption bar) would run us, and using 250 as a rough estimate of our guest list. We estimated really high on the PP cost so we'll likely come in well under, but have a wide enough margin of error that we'll be OK even if 267 people do show up.

Most importantly, we're below comfortable capacity of the ballroom, and far below fire code. These numbers include ourselves and all vendors.

One of the sweetest things I've ever seen was my dad tearing up before his wedding, peeking into the packed church in sheer amazement and gratitude that everyone showed up to support him and my now step-mom. He was truly flabbergasted. He still talks about how much that meant to him. No happy dancing at declines there, nor will there be here.

delujm0 · April 2014

We did invite 26 more than our venue's capacity at seated rounds for the room we were planning to use. However, if we had 100% attendance, we would have just upgraded to the venue's larger room and it would have been fine. A bit more expensive for the rental fee, but we would have just downgraded the bar to beer and wine only to make up for it. We had a viable contingency plan.

FMIL did have 38 people on her "invite them because they were invited to (her daughter's) wedding, but they didn't come to (her daughter's) wedding, so they definitely won't come to this one!" list, but almost half of them ARE actually coming. FSIL's wedding was less than a 2 hour drive from where these people live, and our wedding is an 8+ hour drive or a flight...i guess a lot of people really want an excuse to visit Charlotte, NC. We had a bunch of other declines, so we will wind up well below the "seated rounds" capacity and not have to change anything.

We could have afforded to host 100% of the guest list if we needed to. Even if we had to use the larger room at our venue to do so.

sarahonlife · April 2014

shrekspeare said:
I was a dumbass and invited 150. Not counting the wedding party. So for weeks I was like, oh yeah, we only have 150, but we had a lot more. Then FMIL drama and we ended up much higher. The fact it worked out was pure luck. 0/10 do not recommend over inviting.

My boss invited 150 to his wedding, budgeted for 150, booked venues for 150, etc. It wasn't until RSVPs were coming in that he and his wife realized they had invited 150 COUPLES, not 150 people! Luckily he had the money to make all the needed adjustments, but wow, that must have been stressful!

2leadsingers · April 2014

delujm0 said:

We did invite 26 more than our venue's capacity at seated rounds for the room we were planning to use. However, if we had 100% attendance, we would have just upgraded to the venue's larger room and it would have been fine. A bit more expensive for the rental fee, but we would have just downgraded the bar to beer and wine only to make up for it. We had a viable contingency plan.

FMIL did have 38 people on her "invite them because they were invited to (her daughter's) wedding, but they didn't come to (her daughter's) wedding, so they definitely won't come to this one!" list, but almost half of them ARE actually coming. FSIL's wedding was less than a 2 hour drive from where these people live, and our wedding is an 8+ hour drive or a flight...i guess a lot of people really want an excuse to visit Charlotte, NC. We had a bunch of other declines, so we will wind up well below the "seated rounds" capacity and not have to change anything.

We could have afforded to host 100% of the guest list if we needed to. Even if we had to use the larger room at our venue to do so.

TK won't let me answer without quoting, so please don't think I am calling you out specifically @delujm0, your reply was closest to the end of the page. For those of you with the contingency plan of utilizing a larger room at the same venue, did you have to ok that with the venue first? Or make sure there wasn't another event already booked for that room? I am not trying to be snarky, just genuinely curious. Most of the venues that I have attended that have more than one banquet room available have all had all of the spaces booked at the same time, hence my curiousity. I just personally wouldn't rely on it being available unless I had it in writing that the hotel/venue was going to hold that room open as well, which I would imagine would result in extra fees.

lyndausvi · April 2014

sarahonlife said:

I was a dumbass and invited 150. Not counting the wedding party. So for weeks I was like, oh yeah, we only have 150, but we had a lot more. Then FMIL drama and we ended up much higher. The fact it worked out was pure luck. 0/10 do not recommend over inviting.
My boss invited 150 to his wedding, budgeted for 150, booked venues for 150, etc. It wasn't until RSVPs were coming in that he and his wife realized they had invited 150 COUPLES, not 150 people! Luckily he had the money to make all the needed adjustments, but wow, that must have been stressful!

oops

ETA - I've read of many people doing the opposite with invites. They order 300 invites, then realize they only need a little over half that amount because couples or families getting one invite.

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