White on guests...

ScoutF · May 2014

Am I the only one who doesn't give a fuck what people are wearing? I can't remember what a single guest wore unless I look at pictures. Same with other weddings I've been to.

jenna8984 · May 2014

@shrekspeare @maggie0829 @prettygirllost Ok thanks guys! I'll stick with black because even though that may only warrant a few side eyes, I'd rather have none!

kitty8403 · May 2014

PrettyGirlLost said:
I think the ZOMG You Can't Wear White Rule is ridiculous and hypocritical if we tell brides that they cannot dictate guest attire. . . well that includes guests wearing white.

As long as they aren't wearing a ballgown and a tiara and veil, I'm pretty sure they aren't intending to compete with the bride nor will anyone mistake them for he bride.

See, I've never viewed it as an attempt to compete or to trick people, per se. (Eta: I don't consider this an attempt by couples to dictate guest attire, either.) When somebody is dressed head to toe that way at a wedding, it comes off like a desperate bid for attention or sex appeal or something that isn't flattering or appropriate for anybody. All-white still gets side-eyed by a lot of folks because people know the bride (at least, in most western countries) is likely to be wearing it and guests have a zillion other options to pick from that aren't funereal, stripper-reminiscent, or AWish. (I think the social views on color are changing, but we aren't there yet and won't be for awhile. Thus, when people ask, I suggest they don't pick someone else's wedding as the time to push the envelope.) I wish people would have the common freaking sense to wear something reasonably modest -- if you wouldn't wear that color or show that much skin or wear that shirt with no bra at church, work or court, you shouldn't be doing it at a wedding, either.

Maggie0829 · May 2014

jenna8984 said:

Ok thanks guys! I'll stick with black because even though that may only warrant a few side eyes, I'd rather have none!

@jenna8984 - What about pairing your pink blazer and other colorful accessories with your black dress? It will brighten it up and make it more summery.

Maggie0829 · May 2014

kitty8403 said:

I think the ZOMG You Can't Wear White Rule is ridiculous and hypocritical if we tell brides that they cannot dictate guest attire. . . well that includes guests wearing white.

As long as they aren't wearing a ballgown and a tiara and veil, I'm pretty sure they aren't intending to compete with the bride nor will anyone mistake them for he bride.
See, I've never viewed it as an attempt to compete or to trick people, per se. More like a desperate bid for attention or sex appeal or something that isn't flattering or appropriate for anybody. All white still gets side eyed because people know the bride (at least, in most western countries) is likely to be wearing it and guests have a zillion other options to pick from that aren't funereal, stripper-reminiscent, or AWish. I wish people would have the common freaking sense to wear something reasonably modest -- if you wouldn't wear that color or show that much skin or wear that shirt with no bra at church, work or court, you shouldn't be doing it at a wedding, either.

Yeah, a wedding is completely different then work or court. I am not saying that people should slut it up or dress like slobs but I do think it is okay to wear a nice strapless cocktail dress with a great pair of heels to a wedding. If I were to wear what I wear to work to most of the weddings that I am invited to them I would be seriously out of place and under dressed.

PrettyGirlLost · May 2014

kitty8403 said:

I think the ZOMG You Can't Wear White Rule is ridiculous and hypocritical if we tell brides that they cannot dictate guest attire. . . well that includes guests wearing white.

As long as they aren't wearing a ballgown and a tiara and veil, I'm pretty sure they aren't intending to compete with the bride nor will anyone mistake them for he bride.
See, I've never viewed it as an attempt to compete or to trick people, per se. (Eta: I don't consider this an attempt by couples to dictate guest attire, either.) When somebody is dressed head to toe that way at a wedding, it comes off like a desperate bid for attention or sex appeal or something that isn't flattering or appropriate for anybody. All-white still gets side-eyed by a lot of folks because people know the bride (at least, in most western countries) is likely to be wearing it and guests have a zillion other options to pick from that aren't funereal, stripper-reminiscent, or AWish. (I think the social views on color are changing, but we aren't there yet and won't be for awhile. Thus, when people ask, I suggest they don't pick someone else's wedding as the time to push the envelope.) I wish people would have the common freaking sense to wear something reasonably modest -- if you wouldn't wear that color or show that much skin or wear that shirt with no bra at church, work or court, you shouldn't be doing it at a wedding, either.

I like your response- it's well articulated and thoughtful!

So perhaps it's more guests perpetuating an attire directive and cattiness, then? Hopefully there will come a day when women stop investing so much time into reading into the motives behind why a person wore a specific color, and being so judgmental about it, but I think you are right and we aren't quite there yet.

jenna8984 said:

@shrekspeare @maggie0829 @prettygirllost Ok thanks guys! I'll stick with black because even though that may only warrant a few side eyes, I'd rather have none!

I think you'd be fine to wear that dress with your pink blazer, matching heels and clutch/bag, and an awesome pink statement necklace.

But if you are worried about judgement from others, I think very few ppl side-eye black at weddings now a days. If you don't care what other ppl think, wear what you want!

PrettyGirlLost · May 2014

PrettyGirlLost · May 2014

ScoutF said:

Am I the only one who doesn't give a fuck what people are wearing? I can't remember what a single guest wore unless I look at pictures. Same with other weddings I've been to.

Nope, I'm on that boat with you too.

Maggie0829 · May 2014

PrettyGirlLost said:

kitty8403 said:

I think the ZOMG You Can't Wear White Rule is ridiculous and hypocritical if we tell brides that they cannot dictate guest attire. . . well that includes guests wearing white.

As long as they aren't wearing a ballgown and a tiara and veil, I'm pretty sure they aren't intending to compete with the bride nor will anyone mistake them for he bride.
See, I've never viewed it as an attempt to compete or to trick people, per se. (Eta: I don't consider this an attempt by couples to dictate guest attire, either.) When somebody is dressed head to toe that way at a wedding, it comes off like a desperate bid for attention or sex appeal or something that isn't flattering or appropriate for anybody. All-white still gets side-eyed by a lot of folks because people know the bride (at least, in most western countries) is likely to be wearing it and guests have a zillion other options to pick from that aren't funereal, stripper-reminiscent, or AWish. (I think the social views on color are changing, but we aren't there yet and won't be for awhile. Thus, when people ask, I suggest they don't pick someone else's wedding as the time to push the envelope.) I wish people would have the common freaking sense to wear something reasonably modest -- if you wouldn't wear that color or show that much skin or wear that shirt with no bra at church, work or court, you shouldn't be doing it at a wedding, either.

I like your response- it's well articulated and thoughtful!

So perhaps it's more guests perpetuating an attire directive and cattiness, then? Hopefully there will come a day when women stop investing so much time into reading into the motives behind why a person wore a specific color, and being so judgmental about it, but I think you are right and we aren't quite there yet.

I always thought this. I never thought that any of the brides that I have encountered really care, but it is more of a guest thing then a bride not wanting guests in white thing.

But in the end I don't wear white because A) I want the bride to be the only one in that color because I feel like she should stand out that day and

all white really isn't the most flattering color unless you are in an expensive gown, and then you are getting to close to a wedding gown, or you are wearing awesome white pants.

Fairyjen1 · May 2014

I don't wear all white ever because I'm klutzy and will spill something on myself. I could care less if a wedding guest wears white. I probably won't notice even enough to side -eye. I wouldn't expect someone to get another dress if all they has was white. Most white cocktail/sundresses don't look bridal.

I have seen people get bent out of shape when another wedding guest wore a white cardigan over their colored dress to a wedding. There were a bunch of old biddies going on about it. I don't have that kind of energy.

Maggie0829 · May 2014

I will add that at my wedding I didn't care what people wore. I did notice one outfit but that was mainly because the persons butt tended to show when she bent over. But other then that I didn't notice anything.

Now when I am a guest I tend to people watch, big time, so I notice others outfits. But it isn't like I am caring what they are wearing but more commenting in my head about their style choices. I mean as long as they are wearing clothes then I am happy, but yeah, I will comment on certain outfits if I think they are horrible or amazing or what not, but I think that is just human nature.

PrettyGirlLost · May 2014

Maggie0829 said:

I will add that at my wedding I didn't care what people wore. I did notice one outfit but that was mainly because the persons butt tended to show when she bent over. But other then that I didn't notice anything.

Now when I am a guest I tend to people watch, big time, so I notice others outfits. But it isn't like I am caring what they are wearing but more commenting in my head about their style choices. I mean as long as they are wearing clothes then I am happy, but yeah, I will comment on certain outfits if I think they are horrible or amazing or what not, but I think that is just human nature.

To the bolded, me too. It's fun! But I have never sat around and thought "OMG, Becky, how dare that girl wear white to a wedding! That's like a sin! Who does she think she is? The bride?!"

It's more like "OMG Becky, I love her shoes! Ugh, I want that clutch! Holy shit, I just saw that girl's hooha. .. and the curtains don't match the hardwood floors."

kitty8403 · May 2014

I always thought this. I never thought that any of the brides that I have encountered really care, but it is more of a guest thing then a bride not wanting guests in white thing.

But in the end I don't wear white because A) I want the bride to be the only one in that color because I feel like she should stand out that day and

all white really isn't the most flattering color unless you are in an expensive gown, and then you are getting to close to a wedding gown, or you are wearing awesome white pants.

---boxes!---

I could never pull off awesome white pants. I'd have paw prints or wine (or both) all over them in 5 seconds flat.

I'm mostly with you on cocktail dresses, although since a lot of weddings still take place at church I tend to dress more conservatively unless it's obvious that it will be a cocktail party-type reception. But I do think weddings are a place where a certain decorum is called for. Someone is finalizing vows and legal commitment. It's really not the place for bar or club wear--skin-tight outfits or tube tops or mini skirts or thin little boho dresses that show everything and then some just aren't appropriate--that's more the direction I was aiming. :-)

jenna8984 · May 2014

Maggie0829 said:

jenna8984 said:

Ok thanks guys! I'll stick with black because even though that may only warrant a few side eyes, I'd rather have none!

@jenna8984 - What about pairing your pink blazer and other colorful accessories with your black dress? It will brighten it up and make it more summery.

Good call! Sold!

I am also in the camp of not wearing white pants/ shorts simply because I know I'll get chocolate on them within the hour hahah. My SIL wore a white button down shirt to her son's FIRST birthday party. You know- the one where the baby smashes cake everywhere. I was like what the hell were you thinking?! It was definitely destroyed.

kitsunegari89 · May 2014

My mom's friend, her daughter, and my mom's friend's friend(?) showed up all wearing pre-coordinated red ensembles, which irked me slightly, but then I had champagne and cake and I was fine. I didn't really care thaaat much, but it was kindof annoying since they stuck out in all the pictures, and it was formal and the younger girl's dress was really really short, and she just generally was an attention hog... I saw her panties on two occasions... Oh well! My grandma also wore this ugly, red jersey knit mumu looking thing. There was a lot of red.

PrettyGirlLost · May 2014

mrshutzler said:

My mom's friend, her daughter, and my mom's friend's friend(?) showed up all wearing pre-coordinated red ensembles, which irked me slightly, but then I had champagne and cake and I was fine. I didn't really care thaaat much, but it was kindof annoying since they stuck out in all the pictures, and it was formal and the younger girl's dress was really really short, and she just generally was an attention hog... I saw her panties on two occasions... Oh well! My grandma also wore this ugly, red jersey knit mumu looking thing. There was a lot of red.

You didn't like that they wore red? That they all wore red?

kitty8403 · May 2014

PrettyGirlLost said:

mrshutzler said:

My mom's friend, her daughter, and my mom's friend's friend(?) showed up all wearing pre-coordinated red ensembles, which irked me slightly, but then I had champagne and cake and I was fine. I didn't really care thaaat much, but it was kindof annoying since they stuck out in all the pictures, and it was formal and the younger girl's dress was really really short, and she just generally was an attention hog... I saw her panties on two occasions... Oh well! My grandma also wore this ugly, red jersey knit mumu looking thing. There was a lot of red.

You didn't like that they wore red? That they all wore red?

I still side eye that much red at a wedding. It's attention grabby.

PrettyGirlLost · May 2014

kitty8403 said:

mrshutzler said:

My mom's friend, her daughter, and my mom's friend's friend(?) showed up all wearing pre-coordinated red ensembles, which irked me slightly, but then I had champagne and cake and I was fine. I didn't really care thaaat much, but it was kindof annoying since they stuck out in all the pictures, and it was formal and the younger girl's dress was really really short, and she just generally was an attention hog... I saw her panties on two occasions... Oh well! My grandma also wore this ugly, red jersey knit mumu looking thing. There was a lot of red.

You didn't like that they wore red? That they all wore red?
I still side eye that much red at a wedding. It's attention grabby.

No more so than a bright blue, or bright yellow, or green, or purple.

It's just a color.

manateehugger · May 2014

PrettyGirlLost said:

kitty8403 said:

mrshutzler said:

My mom's friend, her daughter, and my mom's friend's friend(?) showed up all wearing pre-coordinated red ensembles, which irked me slightly, but then I had champagne and cake and I was fine. I didn't really care thaaat much, but it was kindof annoying since they stuck out in all the pictures, and it was formal and the younger girl's dress was really really short, and she just generally was an attention hog... I saw her panties on two occasions... Oh well! My grandma also wore this ugly, red jersey knit mumu looking thing. There was a lot of red.

You didn't like that they wore red? That they all wore red?
I still side eye that much red at a wedding. It's attention grabby.

No more so than a bright blue, or bright yellow, or green, or purple.

It's just a color.

I didn't know we still associated the color red with attention whore or just whore....

lyndausvi · May 2014

DH's aunt wore a white pantsuit. MIL "warned me". I was like "okay? This isn't a problem to me, I don't care what color she wears as long as she is comfortable" To myself I could not understand why a white pantsuit on anyone would be an issue let alone a short grey haired 60-something year old wearing one?

On of DH's friends wore a white sundress to the wedding. It was raining and decided to use a white sheet to cover herself from the lobby to the shuttle bus. Now I didn't see this part, but my cousins were all like "who is the ghost walking around?". The fact she had on a white sundress didn't bother me. I wish someone would have taken a picture of her looking like a ghost getting to the shuttle bus.

We also had 2 people who wore jeans I didn't even notice at first.. But in the bathroom the girl in jeans explained that due to the hurricane she didn't want to ruin her dress and decided to wear jeans instead (they were OOT). Honestly I do not understand why she felt the need to tell me this? I had not noticed until she pointed it out to me.

sophhabobopha · May 2014

Musikalbunni said:

I am on the camp of not caring what COLOR guests decide to wear. I tend to side-eye women who are wearing really short dresses more than women who wear white. One of my younger cousins wore something really short at our wedding - I saw her hot-pocket several times as we were dancing. YIKES!

I really like white clothes. I generally stay away from white because I am already on the pale side. But if I had darker skin - I'd be rocking white all the time.

STUCK IN THE BOX
I spit out my tea at 'hot pocket'.
Also, some girls were wearing booty shorts at FI's cosin's wedding and I side eyed SO HARD

kitty8403 · May 2014

PDKH said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

kitty8403 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

mrshutzler said:

My mom's friend, her daughter, and my mom's friend's friend(?) showed up all wearing pre-coordinated red ensembles, which irked me slightly, but then I had champagne and cake and I was fine. I didn't really care thaaat much, but it was kindof annoying since they stuck out in all the pictures, and it was formal and the younger girl's dress was really really short, and she just generally was an attention hog... I saw her panties on two occasions... Oh well! My grandma also wore this ugly, red jersey knit mumu looking thing. There was a lot of red.

You didn't like that they wore red? That they all wore red?

I still side eye that much red at a wedding. It's attention grabby.

No more so than a bright blue, or bright yellow, or green, or purple.

It's just a color.

I didn't know we still associated the color red with attention whore or just whore....

---
Well there's THAT I suppose. But it's also a very loud, attention-demanding color. Plus, red is also well known to be a traditional bridal color in many countries, so as far as I'm concerned it's not much different than wearing white. Bright yellow or blue or hot pink don't have quite the same histories that red does.

Maggie0829 · May 2014

kitty8403 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

kitty8403 said:

mrshutzler said:

My mom's friend, her daughter, and my mom's friend's friend(?) showed up all wearing pre-coordinated red ensembles, which irked me slightly, but then I had champagne and cake and I was fine. I didn't really care thaaat much, but it was kindof annoying since they stuck out in all the pictures, and it was formal and the younger girl's dress was really really short, and she just generally was an attention hog... I saw her panties on two occasions... Oh well! My grandma also wore this ugly, red jersey knit mumu looking thing. There was a lot of red.

You didn't like that they wore red? That they all wore red?
I still side eye that much red at a wedding. It's attention grabby.

No more so than a bright blue, or bright yellow, or green, or purple.

It's just a color.

I didn't know we still associated the color red with attention whore or just whore....
--- Well there's THAT I suppose. But it's also a very loud, attention-demanding color. Plus, red is also well known to be a traditional bridal color in many countries, so as far as I'm concerned it's not much different than wearing white. Bright yellow or blue or hot pink don't have quite the same histories that red does.

But if you aren't attending a wedding in those countries then wearing red isn't anything like wearing white.

And if you have an issue with loud and attention-demanding colors, which any color other then tan, black or grey put off then what colors are people supposed to wear? Tan or grey? I mean since black is a no-no too since it means you are mourning the wedding not celebrating it.

I am all for color. I just don't like white for the reasons I posted before. But I don't see bright/loud colors as attention-grabbing but rather as a representation of celebration and happiness. I also tend to wear pretty colors to funerals. I want to show that I am celebrating that persons life rather then mourning their death in a drab black dress.

sofakingmad · May 2014

I wore red to an Indian wedding and that is the tradition color the bride wears.

But the bride bought me the Sari in India for me to wear to her wedding. So obviously I knew it was ok.

I understand why white would be weird, but I just don't care about red.

kitty8403 · May 2014

Maggie0829 said:

kitty8403 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

kitty8403 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

mrshutzler said:

My mom's friend, her daughter, and my mom's friend's friend(?) showed up all wearing pre-coordinated red ensembles, which irked me slightly, but then I had champagne and cake and I was fine. I didn't really care thaaat much, but it was kindof annoying since they stuck out in all the pictures, and it was formal and the younger girl's dress was really really short, and she just generally was an attention hog... I saw her panties on two occasions... Oh well! My grandma also wore this ugly, red jersey knit mumu looking thing. There was a lot of red.

You didn't like that they wore red? That they all wore red?

I still side eye that much red at a wedding. It's attention grabby.

No more so than a bright blue, or bright yellow, or green, or purple.

It's just a color.

I didn't know we still associated the color red with attention whore or just whore....

---
Well there's THAT I suppose. But it's also a very loud, attention-demanding color. Plus, red is also well known to be a traditional bridal color in many countries, so as far as I'm concerned it's not much different than wearing white. Bright yellow or blue or hot pink don't have quite the same histories that red does.

But if you aren't attending a wedding in those countries then wearing red isn't anything like wearing white.

And if you have an issue with loud and attention-demanding colors, which any color other then tan, black or grey put off then what colors are people supposed to wear? Tan or grey? I mean since black is a no-no too since it means you are mourning the wedding not celebrating it.

I am all for color. I just don't like white for the reasons I posted before. But I don't see bright/loud colors as attention-grabbing but rather as a representation of celebration and happiness. I also tend to wear pretty colors to funerals. I want to show that I am celebrating that persons life rather then mourning
their death in a drab black dress.

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FWIW, I did wear hot pink to a wedding several years ago. It wasn't an immodest cut, I had black or neutral accessories. I don't think anybody side-eyed. And I still second-guess that decision. I probably won't wear it to a wedding again because the color is just so bold.

I don't have a problem with jewel tones or pastels
or classic neutrals. Or pretty much any color as long as it's broken up visually or part of a pattern. Once it's a single head to toe, "totally in your face" color I start to find it questionable. Full-on red still bothers me in a way that other shades don't; I do find it AWIsh.

kitsunegari89 · May 2014

I don't like really bright, garish colors at weddings because they stick out like a sore thumb. Bright, fire-engine red from shoulder to hem is a no-no IMHO. Of course I said nothing, and of course it's none of my business, and of course my guests could wear whatever they want. That doesn't prevent me from side-eyeing and thinking it was in poor taste to demand that much attention at someone else's wedding by deciding to all wear red. It was very LOOK AT USSSSS! My aunt wore a black lace and chiffon cocktail dress with a shiny gold lining, and a fascinator and she looked fab. I think black can be done well at a wedding much easier than red can. As for red being a traditional bridal color in other countries... there are lots of traditions in other countries we don't do... like ritual circumcision on boys at age 5 with no anesthetic or child marriage.

I would probably have been less bothered if it was just one person that wore fire engine red at my wedding, but I'm going through my pictures and there were five (though only three coordinated).

kitsunegari89 · May 2014

uuugh... I hate Sex and the City.

kitsunegari89 · May 2014

Musikalbunni said:

mrshutzler said:

uuugh... I hate Sex and the City.

I do too. I remember seeing this episode with my sister. I don't get the big deal with this show...

I just hate that women are reduced to vapid, slutty, weird, yammering, shrill harpies with no souls and unrealistically plush apartments.

PrettyGirlLost · May 2014

mrshutzler said:

I don't like really bright, garish colors at weddings because they stick out like a sore thumb. Bright, fire-engine red from shoulder to hem is a no-no IMHO. Of course I said nothing, and of course it's none of my business, and of course my guests could wear whatever they want. That doesn't prevent me from side-eyeing and thinking it was in poor taste to demand that much attention at someone else's wedding by deciding to all wear red. It was very LOOK AT USSSSS! My aunt wore a black lace and chiffon cocktail dress with a shiny gold lining, and a fascinator and she looked fab. I think black can be done well at a wedding much easier than red can. As for red being a traditional bridal color in other countries... there are lots of traditions in other countries we don't do... like ritual circumcision on boys at age 5 with no anesthetic or child marriage.

I would probably have been less bothered if it was just one person that wore fire engine red at my wedding, but I'm going through my pictures and there were five (though only three coordinated).

Does it really matter and actually effect the wedding if a color or colors "stand out"? IMO, no. You don't go to the opera and hear women talking about other women sticking out because they are wearing red. At the end of the day, a wedding is just a social event wrt attire, and besides not dressing literally like a whore in church, these "rules" for colors at weddings are just ridiculous to me.

They seem to be based on a lot of assumptions made by other women- She is wearing red so she must be trying to garner attention. Why is that even a logical assumption? It's not. I just don't read that much into things, sorry. It's not at all how I think.

In your case @mrshutzler, it really does appear that those three guests shown earlier planned on wearing red together, which is it's own kinda odd to me. But in the end, when you look at your pictures, why do 5 ppl wearing red bother you? What if those 5 people were wearing Big Bird yellow dresses? I'm just curious and trying to understand your point of view, I'm not picking on you.

kitsunegari89 · May 2014

PrettyGirlLost said:

mrshutzler said:

I don't like really bright, garish colors at weddings because they stick out like a sore thumb. Bright, fire-engine red from shoulder to hem is a no-no IMHO. Of course I said nothing, and of course it's none of my business, and of course my guests could wear whatever they want. That doesn't prevent me from side-eyeing and thinking it was in poor taste to demand that much attention at someone else's wedding by deciding to all wear red. It was very LOOK AT USSSSS! My aunt wore a black lace and chiffon cocktail dress with a shiny gold lining, and a fascinator and she looked fab. I think black can be done well at a wedding much easier than red can. As for red being a traditional bridal color in other countries... there are lots of traditions in other countries we don't do... like ritual circumcision on boys at age 5 with no anesthetic or child marriage.

I would probably have been less bothered if it was just one person that wore fire engine red at my wedding, but I'm going through my pictures and there were five (though only three coordinated).

Does it really matter and actually effect the wedding if a color or colors "stand out"? IMO, no. You don't go to the opera and hear women talking about other women sticking out because they are wearing red. At the end of the day, a wedding is just a social event wrt attire, and besides not dressing literally like a whore in church, these "rules" for colors at weddings are just ridiculous to me.

They seem to be based on a lot of assumptions made by other women- She is wearing red so she must be trying to garner attention. Why is that even a logical assumption? It's not. I just don't read that much into things, sorry. It's not at all how I think.

In your case @mrshutzler, it really does appear that those three guests shown earlier planned on wearing red together, which is it's own kinda odd to me. But in the end, when you look at your pictures, why do 5 ppl wearing red bother you? What if those 5 people were wearing Big Bird yellow dresses? I'm just curious and trying to understand your point of view, I'm not picking on you.

I disagree that a wedding is just like any other event. Your average sioreé is not so loaded with symbolism, meaning and tradition. If going to a cocktail party, I'll be the first to wear a hot short little red number because the point is to stand out. Do I care a lot that there were so many people in red at my wedding? not really, no. I understand that it's not a huge deal, but there is a side of me that was annoyed at the showoffy panty-flashing of the younger girl, since it was inappropriate and irksome and certainly not something I would do. Does it make me lose sleep? Not in the slightest. I have some good pictures, and in one, my photographer actually photoshopped the red dress to be slightly more muted since it was distracting and in the foreground. Yay, technology.

This picture is the one he fixed...

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