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Here's a doozy...

First of all, I realize I'm not sure how to spell doozy.  -y?  -ie?

Anyway.  I got this Facebook invitation to a coworker's wedding celebration today - they are having a DW (completely private, only the two of them) in Rome this fall.  At some point they're also having a fake-ceremony for immediate family (first strike), and then were going to have an informal reception at home for friends and family.  The fake-ceremony bothers me, but everyone knows about their planned DW...

The reception at home (now is actually happening BEFORE their real or fake duplicate ceremony...) is a baseball game in a private box - food and drinks are brought in and the ticket includes all of the food and drinks.

Since I like this bride, I was planning on overlooking the weirdness of the two ceremonies and the timing of the AHR and attending the AHR and possibly her bachelorette (also invited on Facebook).

Then we got the invite/save-the-date on Facebook: (my notes / edited information in parenthesis)

"Instead of a traditional wedding, we are running away to Europe to get married all by ourselves.  However, we still want to celebrate with all of you!  We have reserved the (box) at the baseball game on (the date), 2014 and would like all of you to join us for the game.  In lieu of gifts (this is the first problem!), we are asking that everyone who would like to attend pay for their tickets. (Say WHAT?)  Tickets are $__ and include all you can eat and ALL YOU CAN DRINK (classy capitalization) pop, water, and BEER (classy again)!  Kids are welcome, but please note that there is unlimited beer for guests over 21.....  We do have to order and pay for tickets in advance, so I will be sending out invitations and RSVP cards in the near future.  As of now we have space for 75, and we will reserve tickets for people in the order that we receive payment for the tickets (so no guarantee that all those invited can actually attend...).  Please send your payment for tickets with the RSVP card or use Paypal to send money to (bride's email address).  Also, please send your address to the bride."

68 people on Facebook were invited... not including my husband (awkward) and I'm guessing she has some relatives/friends who aren't on FB either, so she probably has invited WAY past her capacity, can't squeeze people in because they each need a ticket (that they have to buy!) and are asking their friends to pay for their wedding celebration.

She does think (and has said) that "her family and friends don't care about all of the old etiquette rules"... I can't speak for all of her friends/family, but I do.

Needless to say, we won't be attending.  H and I will have "plans" that night.  Work may be awkward.
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Re: Here's a doozy...

  • I have no words.
  • No. Just no!
  • Wow, that sounds like an amazing time.  Seems really easy to organize.  I mean, first come first serve RSVPs, collecting money from guests.  Sounds really easy.   It's going to be really fun if everyone does RSVP yes and sends in their money at the same time  only to be told they can't come because they are oversold. 

    Great Plan.   High Fly.   Should be apart of wedding guides on how to plan weddings.



    Can I ask what teams are playing that night?






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • I'm rolling my eyes so hard right now.
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  • Why not just have a group outing at the baseball stadium. Why does it have to be associated with their wedding. If this was a "hey guys want to get a box for the X and Z game on Y date" let me know if you're interested, that would be fun.


    Once you make it your wedding reception....ew tacky tacky tacky!

    Right? I wouldn't care, like, at all if somebody said "hey, we're going to the game on X night. It costs this much. If you give me a heads up in advance, we might even have box seats open if you want to join us!" It's the pretending it's an AHR that gets me. Oy.
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    That's like the grand poobah of bad etiquette right there. Her parents must be proud.
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  • I was just saying to my SO how great it would be to get married at my alma mater's on-campus chapel, and then host the reception in one of the box suites during a game that night (for either football or basketball, depending on the season). I never thought such a great idea could be perverted in such a way as this bride has. WTF.
  • The event sounds like a blast - DH and I went to Phillies/Nationals game last year and the only seats available were the private box.  Although the beers weren't free - we had our own waitress, cheaper beers and a REFRIGERATOR!  We want to get a crew together this year as well. (SARCASM ALERT) Now I'm thinking I missed the boat and should have just had our wedding this way.... 

    I'd be politely declining.
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    @KGold80 - I haven't heard the term "grand poobah" in years.  Couldn't stop laughing.

    Yeah, this thing is a MESS.  Just another example of someone thinking that their situation is different (both of their second marriage, they don't want a wedding like their first ones) so they can break all the rules of etiquette and that their family/friends don't care.  I won't say anything to her, H and I will just have "plans" that night, but definitely do care.

    She could have just invited us to a game to hang out... no problem buying the tickets.  Or they could not spend their whole budget on a private DW and small fake-ceremony and then expect the rest of their family/friends to pay for their celebration.

    ETA: @lyndasvui - we live in Iowa... so it's our minor league team against another minor league.  I don't follow baseball much - but can say it's not particularly great baseball to begin with.

  • Why not just have a group outing at the baseball stadium. Why does it have to be associated with their wedding. If this was a "hey guys want to get a box for the X and Z game on Y date" let me know if you're interested, that would be fun.

    Once you make it your wedding reception....ew tacky tacky tacky!
    I thought the exact same thing! Groups do sporting event trips like this all the time - but associating it with their wedding is what makes it bad. 

    I don't blame you for not attending! Yikes.
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  • Holy crap.  No.

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  • vt&dt said:

    ETA: @lyndasvui - we live in Iowa... so it's our minor league team against another minor league.  I don't follow baseball much - but can say it's not particularly great baseball to begin with.

    OMG. $75 for a minor league baseball PPD. No thank you.
    Our local minor league team (don't ask me who they're a farm-team for, I don't have any idea), has a $75 six-pack.

    You pay $75 and get six passes for tickets, good all season. You bring the passes to the box office and they give you the best available seats for that game. 

    DH and I do two of them, usually, so we get 12 tickets for $150 (it works out to $12.50 per ticket), and then we can take his nephew, my parents if they're in town, friends, etc.)

    It's a great deal, because $12.50 for minor-league tickets isn't bad. 
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    I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'
  • Why not just have a group outing at the baseball stadium. Why does it have to be associated with their wedding. If this was a "hey guys want to get a box for the X and Z game on Y date" let me know if you're interested, that would be fun.

    Once you make it your wedding reception....ew tacky tacky tacky!
    I thought the exact same thing! Groups do sporting event trips like this all the time - but associating it with their wedding is what makes it bad. 

    I don't blame you for not attending! Yikes.
    I actually love the idea of having a wedding reception like this... either a small intimate group in a private suite for a game (completely and entirely hosted, of course!) or even have a Superbowl viewing during the reception. I'm a gigantic sports fan, so this is something I'd love to do if it worked out. I personally thing the tackiness involved is regarding the PPD aspect and making guests pay their way.

    Is this really that tacky, "yikes" of an idea? It strikes me as being in the same vein as a DW... as long as the guests know in advance what they're in for, they can accept or decline as normal. 
  • At first, I read this and didn't even believe it. But now, I'm thinking it is very unlikely that anyone could make up such a ridiculous story.

    Really...there are no words.

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  • beethery said:
    vt&dt said:

    ETA: @lyndasvui - we live in Iowa... so it's our minor league team against another minor league.  I don't follow baseball much - but can say it's not particularly great baseball to begin with.

    OMG. $75 for a minor league baseball PPD. No thank you.
    Oh hell the fuck no. MINOR LEAGUE and a PPD. Great, it's like the dingleberry on top of a shit sundae. Lovely.
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    @hisgirlfriday - My brother gets the same tickets as you for your minor league team (he lives in York County) . It's a great deal.   The Blue Rocks are also a great deal if you want to watch some baseball.     

    Pay our own way pre-wedding reception, hell no

     






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • lyndausvi said:
    beethery said:
    vt&dt said:

    ETA: @lyndasvui - we live in Iowa... so it's our minor league team against another minor league.  I don't follow baseball much - but can say it's not particularly great baseball to begin with.

    OMG. $75 for a minor league baseball PPD. No thank you.
    Oh hell the fuck no. MINOR LEAGUE and a PPD. Great, it's like the dingleberry on top of a shit sundae. Lovely.
    This^

    @hisgirlfriday - My brother gets the same tickets as you for your minor league team (he lives in York County) . It's a great deal.   The Blue Rocks are also a great deal if you want to watch some baseball.     

    Pay our own way pre-wedding reception, hell no

     
    Small world!! And it really is a great deal. DH likes it because it doesn't lock us into tickets for specific games, so we can go whenever we want, basically.

    And as much as I love my local team, blesstheirhearts, they're not good enough to EVER sell out their arena.
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    I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'
  • Wow. So not only do you have to pay to attend the pre-wedding reception, but if you don't pay soon, you may lose your "invited" spot. Um, no.
  • Why not just have a group outing at the baseball stadium. Why does it have to be associated with their wedding. If this was a "hey guys want to get a box for the X and Z game on Y date" let me know if you're interested, that would be fun.

    Once you make it your wedding reception....ew tacky tacky tacky!
    I thought the exact same thing! Groups do sporting event trips like this all the time - but associating it with their wedding is what makes it bad. 

    I don't blame you for not attending! Yikes.
    I actually love the idea of having a wedding reception like this... either a small intimate group in a private suite for a game (completely and entirely hosted, of course!) or even have a Superbowl viewing during the reception. I'm a gigantic sports fan, so this is something I'd love to do if it worked out. I personally thing the tackiness involved is regarding the PPD aspect and making guests pay their way.

    Is this really that tacky, "yikes" of an idea? It strikes me as being in the same vein as a DW... as long as the guests know in advance what they're in for, they can accept or decline as normal. 
    No the idea is fine. But if it's your wedding, you fund it. The PPD doesn't bother me so much as the pay your own way.

    It's fine to do a pay your way if it's a regular group outing, not associated with a wedding or birthday party or whatever.
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  • Where to start?  Everything about this is just wrong. 

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  • vt&dtvt&dt member
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    @Jellybean52513 - I thought it was a cool idea until I got the invite and realized that we had to pay our way, AND that if we didn't pay for her pre-DW reception ASAP we could lose our ability to go.

    H and I totally would have gone if it was properly hosted.. but we're not THAT close to the couple and it's the Saturday of Labor Day weekend so we have a lot of places we'd rather be.

    I understand wanting to do their second wedding much different than the first - but I would have expected that after doing a "big white wedding" they would know that this isn't OK.  But... I didn't know either of them before their first weddings - I'm going to guess they had a cash bar.  

  • Wow... Just - WTF? It concerns me that there are people in this world who find this nonsense acceptable...
  • Did they not say this plan out loud? Sometimes that is helpful. 

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