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  • What a looney tunes.
    What did you think would happen if you walked up to a group of internet strangers and told them to get shoehorned by their lady doc?~StageManager14
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  • Sugargirl1019Sugargirl1019 member
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    edited October 2014
    a&b07 said:


    larrygaga said:

    Most of my nurses are idiots and think charting is NBD and optional. 

    Wow really? that's insanely offensive. You clearly have no idea what a nurse actually does. the main reason charting is necessary is for legal reasons. it has very little bearing on the care  actually given to the patient. I'd rather spend my time doing actual patient care than spending time in front of a computer so you know what was done. 

    I was going to ask what job you have where you feel so entitled to say something so offensive, but regardless it doesn't matter what job you have to say such a thing.


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    Nurses need to care about their charting, as it is legally defining and saves (or loses!) your license. Sounds like these nurses just don't give a shit. They need to be educated on the importance of documentation in case they were ever brought to court.

    Charting is extremely extremely important. Dont blow it off!

    @larrygaga‌ I don't find your statement offensive, because it makes me feel like I work in a higher acuity environment (read: I went through Ebola training today!) and am an awesome star. I know I document well. But really, your nurses should care about saving their asses.

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  • @beethery agreed. It's super duper important to have timely documentation.

    Now if I had to choose between bringing pain medicine that was asked for, or sitting and charting about someone's wound, I'd pick the patient care. You can always chart back in time. But you have to be good at balancing it.

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  • @beethery agreed. It's super duper important to have timely documentation. Now if I had to choose between bringing pain medicine that was asked for, or sitting and charting about someone's wound, I'd pick the patient care. You can always chart back in time. But you have to be good at balancing it.
    Yes, this is what I mean. Don't sit there charting away the last three weeks of whatever you did while someone is in pain. Take care of shit where you can and document what you do, either before or after you do it. So that 1. your patient is taken care of and you look like a responsible and caring employee, and 2. your ass is covered because it's there in black in white that you did your fucking job.
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  • beethery said:
    a&b07 said:
    larrygaga said:
    Most of my nurses are idiots and think charting is NBD and optional. 
    Wow really? that's insanely offensive. You clearly have no idea what a nurse actually does. the main reason charting is necessary is for legal reasons. it has very little bearing on the care  actually given to the patient. I'd rather spend my time doing actual patient care than spending time in front of a computer so you know what was done. 

    I was going to ask what job you have where you feel so entitled to say something so offensive, but regardless it doesn't matter what job you have to say such a thing.
    Wouldn't updating a chart to include procedures you took care of benefit the next person (not to mention the patient who would probably appreciate the medical professionals keeping track of who did what and when so that they don't DIE OR ANYTHING) who does any kind of patient care? Say, you administered a dosage of X. Well, you chart it so that the next person doesn't double them up.

    I'm not a medical professional, obviously, but like?????? What the fuck kind of complaint is this? Keep track of your shit so that a domino effect of fuckups doesn't follow.

    Just... sounds like responsible nursing to do the fucking chart, to me.

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    SITB - and this a response to Sugargirl too

    actually I do all of my charting, i am well aware of the legal issues related to proper charting, i would never risk my license for that. I'm not a moron. I know the importance of charting, I always over chart and double check my shit so I am never in a position to worry if something happens I can get reamed for it. ie, every new order or critical result is documented with the dr's name of who i informed and what the follow up was. And I work in a critical care intensive care unit too, so I know how impt it is to be up to date on charting. I am constantly irritated by other nurses' poor charting and am flabbergasted by their inability to chart in a timely manner or correctly so I know what I'm walking into - same can be said for certain doctor's charting.

    The difference to me is that @larrygaga is not a nurse and its offensive to have someone from the outside call nurses idiots. That's an offensive and blanket statement and blatantly untrue. My point was to say that I'd rather spend time directly with my patient than charting because when it comes down to it, that's more important to me than making sure my charting is up to date. I can stay late and chart once the patient has been handed off to another nurse, but i'm not going to sit there and chart while i let a patient get sicker because @larrygaga thinks im an idiot and don't place a priority on charting. That's what I meant by offensive. Now, if Sugargirl was like, oh i hate nurses who are lazy POS who don't chart correctly, I would probably have just nodded in agreement bc we all know there are people like that.
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  • a&b07 said:
    beethery said:
    a&b07 said:
    larrygaga said:
    Most of my nurses are idiots and think charting is NBD and optional. 
    Wow really? that's insanely offensive. You clearly have no idea what a nurse actually does. the main reason charting is necessary is for legal reasons. it has very little bearing on the care  actually given to the patient. I'd rather spend my time doing actual patient care than spending time in front of a computer so you know what was done. 

    I was going to ask what job you have where you feel so entitled to say something so offensive, but regardless it doesn't matter what job you have to say such a thing.
    Wouldn't updating a chart to include procedures you took care of benefit the next person (not to mention the patient who would probably appreciate the medical professionals keeping track of who did what and when so that they don't DIE OR ANYTHING) who does any kind of patient care? Say, you administered a dosage of X. Well, you chart it so that the next person doesn't double them up.

    I'm not a medical professional, obviously, but like?????? What the fuck kind of complaint is this? Keep track of your shit so that a domino effect of fuckups doesn't follow.

    Just... sounds like responsible nursing to do the fucking chart, to me.

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    SITB - and this a response to Sugargirl too

    actually I do all of my charting, i am well aware of the legal issues related to proper charting, i would never risk my license for that. I'm not a moron. I know the importance of charting, I always over chart and double check my shit so I am never in a position to worry if something happens I can get reamed for it. ie, every new order or critical result is documented with the dr's name of who i informed and what the follow up was. And I work in a critical care intensive care unit too, so I know how impt it is to be up to date on charting. I am constantly irritated by other nurses' poor charting and am flabbergasted by their inability to chart in a timely manner or correctly so I know what I'm walking into - same can be said for certain doctor's charting.

    The difference to me is that @larrygaga is not a nurse and its offensive to have someone from the outside call nurses idiots. That's an offensive and blanket statement and blatantly untrue. My point was to say that I'd rather spend time directly with my patient than charting because when it comes down to it, that's more important to me than making sure my charting is up to date. I can stay late and chart once the patient has been handed off to another nurse, but i'm not going to sit there and chart while i let a patient get sicker because @larrygaga thinks im an idiot and don't place a priority on charting. That's what I meant by offensive. Now, if Sugargirl was like, oh i hate nurses who are lazy POS who don't chart correctly, I would probably have just nodded in agreement bc we all know there are people like that.
    So only nurses can criticize other nurses? No sorry it doesn't work that way. I don't know what Larrygaga does for work, but I thought she worked in the healthcare field. She wasn't calling all nurses idiots, take a chill pill.  She wasn't calling you an idiot, she was calling specific nurses that she works with(?) idiots. 




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  • My administrative assistant sits outside my office. She constantly complains about sounds in the cube farm that are NBD. Now, I'm sensitive to real issues and address them - like people clipping their nails, talking super loudly on personal calls, popping gum, tapping a pen on the desk all. day. long., etc. But this woman gets mad when someone opens a granola bar. Or takes keys out of their purse. Or puts on a raincoat. She even complained about someone typing too much. Yes, typing in an office... Shocker. 

    She is my administrative assistant, so I've had conversations with her about this several times and it's a SMH waste of time when she brings it up. She just came into my office with an "emergency" about someone eating a bag of Famous Amos. I was like "people are allowed to eat at their desks, you need to find a way to focus on your work." She said she wants an office. Yea f-ing right. Even some managers are in cubes. I can't justify giving her an office because she can't handle office noises. Ugh.

    What's up with your office/place of work lately?
    Ohmygod- it sounds like this woman has misophonia. 
    It's a sound sensitivity disorder. I would bet a million dollars. Seriously. 

    I have it. It's an excess amount of a particular neurotransmitter. Mine's easily controlled with magnesium, some people need hypnotherapy or cognitive therapy. 
    Some people call it "sound rage." Because sufferers are so disgusted by these noises that they actually get angry. Normal sounds to other people are just frikking hideous, and nobody else gets it.  She's probably hearing something very different than you are.
    It's a very real thing. 


    See? There it is. Doesn't that fit?

    It's honestly horrible. I couldn't go to movies because of the sounds of crinkly candy wrappers and people eating popcorn. (Aaaaaaaaaargh!) Forget being in the same room as someone eating cereal, or potato chips. Clicking noises were particularly bad. Finger snapping or gum popping was excruciating. Just painfully gross sounding. As weird as it seems, everything you posted about this woman made perfect sense to me. Even the raincoat.
    I still really dislike these noises, but not anything like it was. I flinch, but don't have to leave the room.

    If you could think of a diplomatic way to refer her to this information, please do. It genuinely sounds like she should be tested. Because that much hatred for a granola bar wrapper is not right. And she probably has no idea that misophonia exists. 



  • edited October 2014
    ohannabelle said: Ohmygod- it sounds like this woman has misophonia. It's a sound sensitivity disorder. I would bet a million dollars. Seriously. 
    I have it. It's an excess amount of a particular neurotransmitter. Mine's easily controlled with magnesium, some people need hypnotherapy or cognitive therapy. Some people call it "sound rage." Because sufferers are so disgusted by these noises that they actually get angry. Normal sounds to other people are just frikking hideous, and nobody else gets it.  She's probably hearing something very different than you are.It's a very real thing. 

    Look: http://www.misophonia.com 
    See? There it is. Doesn't that fit?
    It's honestly horrible. I couldn't go to movies because of the sounds of crinkly candy wrappers and people eating popcorn. (Aaaaaaaaaargh!) Forget being in the same room as someone eating cereal, or potato chips. Clicking noises were particularly bad. Finger snapping or gum popping was excruciating. Just painfully gross sounding. As weird as it seems, everything you posted about this woman made perfect sense to me. Even the raincoat.I still really dislike these noises, but not anything like it was. I flinch, but don't have to leave the room.
    If you could think of a diplomatic way to refer her to this information, please do. It genuinely sounds like she should be tested. Because that much hatred for a granola bar wrapper is not right. And she probably has no idea that misophonia exists. 


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    I read the link...This IS her. I mean maybe, I'm not a doctor, but it totally sounds like her. She does get irrationally (in my previously ignorant assessment) pissed. I had a cramp in my foot for a couple of days and was rolling my foot over a golf ball
    in my office with the door half closed and carpeted floors and she was like "what's that noise?" I had no idea what she was talking about. Stuff like that. All. The. Time. 

    Maybe I'll just be like, "you know, my aunt is really sensitive to sound....blah blah blah....it might be worth looking in to."
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  • emmaaa said:
    My assistant is constantly coming in and out of my office telling me things I should be doing. "Don't you think we should call these people?" No, I want you to call them on Friday." Five minutes later... "I just called those people." UGHHHH
    Ugh. That's kind of insubordination. You tell him/her not to do XYZ and because personal preference she does XYZ anyway? Yea no.

    My assistant is inherited, so at first when I'd ask her to do something she'd be like "well [name of previous boss] scheduled her own committee meetings." Well, she isn't here anymore. And you are here to do administrative work, so please find a good time for us to meet, if you would be so inclined. Please and thank you. FFS.
    God, when I hear these stories it makes my blood boil. I worked my ASS off as an assistant and never said boo even to the stupidest requests. Because I was well aware that that was my job: do the admin work, placate your bosses, and eventually you can move up. 

    There can be no ego in assisting!

    All of this is to say that I was certainly not cut out for that gig (or the one that it "led" to). But doing the exact thing your boss told you not to? Complaining that "other boss didn't make me do that?" Are you kidding? Was I the only person who lived in fear (rational or not) of being fired for offenses much smaller than that?
    Yeah I have been an assistant before. The main point of the job is to do what your superior asks you to do. I inherited my assistant as well. She has been here 15 years and is over 50 years older than me. I just deal with her as best as possible. It drives me insane though.

  • Dude. The guy RIGHT next to me has been on the phone for over 2 hours and he talks sooooooooo loud. And only speaks in metaphors. "This meeting is the appetizer to the main course. We're gonna hit this outa the park." Ugh. He's a douche straight out of an 80's Wall Street cliche. He never. Shuts. Up. And he's an outside consultant so I'm not even sure what he does here/who he is. Why did they give him the desk right effing next to mine? 
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  • larrygaga said:
    a&b07 said:
    larrygaga said:
    Most of my nurses are idiots and think charting is NBD and optional. 
    Wow really? that's insanely offensive. You clearly have no idea what a nurse actually does. the main reason charting is necessary is for legal reasons. it has very little bearing on the care  actually given to the patient. I'd rather spend my time doing actual patient care than spending time in front of a computer so you know what was done. 

    I was going to ask what job you have where you feel so entitled to say something so offensive, but regardless it doesn't matter what job you have to say such a thing.
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    @larrygaga I thought you WERE a nurse? Not that it matters in the slightest, because nurses who don't chart and don't care about charting deserve to be called idiots by anyone who knows them.

    (CAVEAT FOR SENSITIVE TYPES: my mother and sister are nurses and they would flip their shit if their colleagues didn't chart their stuff properly. Mommy was a nurse teacher for a while and tells stories of impressing this shit upon her students over and over, basically saying: if you chart wrong, someone could die. If you calculate drugs wrong, someone could die. If you use the wrong unit, someone could die.)
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  • beethery said:
    larrygaga I thought you WERE a nurse? Not that it matters in the slightest, because nurses who don't chart and don't care about charting deserve to be called idiots by anyone who knows them.

    (CAVEAT FOR SENSITIVE TYPES: my mother and sister are nurses and they would flip their shit if their colleagues didn't chart their stuff properly. Mommy was a nurse teacher for a while and tells stories of impressing this shit upon her students over and over, basically saying: if you chart wrong, someone could die. If you calculate drugs wrong, someone could die. If you use the wrong unit, someone could die.)
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    Aw, shucks. Back atcha, boo.
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  • ohannabelleohannabelle member
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    Ohmygod- it sounds like this woman has misophonia. 
    It's a sound sensitivity disorder. I would bet a million dollars. Seriously. 

    I have it. It's an excess amount of a particular neurotransmitter. Mine's easily controlled with magnesium, some people need hypnotherapy or cognitive therapy. 
    Some people call it "sound rage." Because sufferers are so disgusted by these noises that they actually get angry. Normal sounds to other people are just frikking hideous, and nobody else gets it.  She's probably hearing something very different than you are.
    It's a very real thing. 


    See? There it is. Doesn't that fit?

    It's honestly horrible. I couldn't go to movies because of the sounds of crinkly candy wrappers and people eating popcorn. (Aaaaaaaaaargh!) Forget being in the same room as someone eating cereal, or potato chips. Clicking noises were particularly bad. Finger snapping or gum popping was excruciating. Just painfully gross sounding. As weird as it seems, everything you posted about this woman made perfect sense to me. Even the raincoat.
    I still really dislike these noises, but not anything like it was. I flinch, but don't have to leave the room.

    If you could think of a diplomatic way to refer her to this information, please do. It genuinely sounds like she should be tested. Because that much hatred for a granola bar wrapper is not right. And she probably has no idea that misophonia exists. 



    **********ETF:   FFS TK - fix the damn quote boxes**************

    I read the link...This IS her. I mean maybe, I'm not a doctor, but it totally sounds like her. She does get irrationally (in my previously ignorant assessment) pissed. I had a cramp in my foot for a couple of days and was rolling my foot over a golf ball in my office with the door half closed and carpeted floors and she was like "what's that noise?" I had no idea what she was talking about. Stuff like that. All. The. Time. 

    Maybe I'll just be like, "you know, my aunt is really sensitive to sound....blah blah blah....it might be worth looking in to."
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    That sounds very graceful, and smart. Please, do. That site has an info brochure. And no, not ignorant at all to be annoyed by it. They aren't reasonable reactions to reasonable behaviors. Even people who have it don't know what it is. It's an incredible relief to know you're not loopy. (Or to know what your loopiness is.)  ;)

    It's a pretty obscure disorder, not a lot of research available on it. Higher incidence of it with Aspergers and Autisim, but still limited research and treatment options out there.

    And ultimately, it's one of those weird ass things that you can't possibly expect the world to accommodate. You have to take control and responsibility and deal with it yourself.

     (At home that might mean yelling "For the love of God, will you put those fucking potato chips on a plate and stop crinkling that damned bag at me?" Or, "Holy hell, Moose, quit breathing so loud! You sound like a frikking dying porpoise!" And they say, okay, crazy woman.
    But obviously, can't do that in public. The world will still eat cookies and chew gum.)
  • For a brief period, I shared a desk with this woman. It was bad enough sharing a desk, but she used to eat pickled herring, from a jar, with chopsticks. Every. Single. Day. Multiple times a day.

    Never dawned on her that it is a disgusting snack and to dial back her food choices while sharing a tiny desk with someone.
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  • sarahufl said:
    For a brief period, I shared a desk with this woman. It was bad enough sharing a desk, but she used to eat pickled herring, from a jar, with chopsticks. Every. Single. Day. Multiple times a day.

    Never dawned on her that it is a disgusting snack and to dial back her food choices while sharing a tiny desk with someone.
    Sounds like some Rose Nylund gourmet if you ask me.
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  • sarahufl said:
    For a brief period, I shared a desk with this woman. It was bad enough sharing a desk, but she used to eat pickled herring, from a jar, with chopsticks. Every. Single. Day. Multiple times a day.

    Never dawned on her that it is a disgusting snack and to dial back her food choices while sharing a tiny desk with someone.

    SIB:

    How do you share a desk? Like... I'm looking at my desk and there's barely enough room for me.
  • sarahufl said:
    For a brief period, I shared a desk with this woman. It was bad enough sharing a desk, but she used to eat pickled herring, from a jar, with chopsticks. Every. Single. Day. Multiple times a day.

    Never dawned on her that it is a disgusting snack and to dial back her food choices while sharing a tiny desk with someone.

    SIB:

    How do you share a desk? Like... I'm looking at my desk and there's barely enough room for me.
    In the lowest circle of hell, you have to share a desk with a large person who has B.O., talks on the phone too loudly, and smacks their lips when they eat.
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  • Someone just heated up fish in the microwave. I'm going to find this person and do bad things to them.
  • sarahufl said:
    For a brief period, I shared a desk with this woman. It was bad enough sharing a desk, but she used to eat pickled herring, from a jar, with chopsticks. Every. Single. Day. Multiple times a day.

    Never dawned on her that it is a disgusting snack and to dial back her food choices while sharing a tiny desk with someone.

    SIB:

    How do you share a desk? Like... I'm looking at my desk and there's barely enough room for me.
    It wasn't pleasant. Trust me. It wasn't a proper office with a free standing desk, more like a long-ish stretch of counter top with chair slots. We sat next to each other. There weren't even 2 chair slots, just mine- so she sort of hovered next to me.

    Believe it or not, the desk-sharing was not the worst thing about this place. The woman was also my boss, but she was a total idiot and didn't even REALLY know what my job was supposed to be. She was heinous.

    She was also a lesbian, but told me on my first day of work that she married a gay man so he could get a visa. I don't have issues with homosexuality, but boasting about breaking federal laws to your new employees on their first day isn't wise.
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  • In one of my previous jobs I had to train with a temp that had been working with my new employer for a long time. While she was decent at her job - she did not have a very good handle on hygiene. Really bad BO AND Halitosis and I had to sit in her cube taking notes for close to a two week period it still makes me cringe.
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  • ShellD13 said:
    In one of my previous jobs I had to train with a temp that had been working with my new employer for a long time. While she was decent at her job - she did not have a very good handle on hygiene. Really bad BO AND Halitosis and I had to sit in her cube taking notes for close to a two week period it still makes me cringe.
    Bad breath is one of my "things". I can handle other gross smells like fish in the microwave, pickled herring, etc. but I cannot handle bad breath. Gross. I know for a few people it's a medical condition, but for many people it's just not taking care of their mouths.

    Of course, because I have a gutter mind, I wonder how anyone could make out with someone and then my gutter mind goes to heavy breathing and just... ugh. It makes me gaggy just typing it.
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  • Someone just heated up fish in the microwave. I'm going to find this person and do bad things to them.
    They had that in the warnable offense list at a corporation I worked for. It was in the new hire paperwork that I had to read through and sign.
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  • beethery said:
    Someone just heated up fish in the microwave. I'm going to find this person and do bad things to them.
    They had that in the warnable offense list at a corporation I worked for. It was in the new hire paperwork that I had to read through and sign.
    Note to self: try to institute this policy. 

    I found the fish warmer upper. She's "eating healthy" and fish is all she can eat because it's the only healthy food that exists apparently. No. It is not. Also you had red vines and gummy bears for breakfast. I'm not judging the breakfast because I'd totally do that, I'm just saying don't bullshit me about eating healthy if that's your fucking breakfast.
  • beethery said:
    Someone just heated up fish in the microwave. I'm going to find this person and do bad things to them.
    They had that in the warnable offense list at a corporation I worked for. It was in the new hire paperwork that I had to read through and sign.
    Note to self: try to institute this policy. 

    I found the fish warmer upper. She's "eating healthy" and fish is all she can eat because it's the only healthy food that exists apparently. No. It is not. Also you had red vines and gummy bears for breakfast. I'm not judging the breakfast because I'd totally do that, I'm just saying don't bullshit me about eating healthy if that's your fucking breakfast.
    You would hate our office.  I work in a mainly Chinese office, and the things they do to our microwave linger all day.  I just make sure to make my food before they do, because if it's any time after 12:30 you can bet at least one or two people are making fish in the microwave and our microwave tends to transfer the smells to your food when you use it. My coworkers also crockpot stuff all day that smells super weird.  

    On the bright side, I get to see a lot of fruit I never knew existed before.  They brought these in yesterday:

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  • beethery said:
    Someone just heated up fish in the microwave. I'm going to find this person and do bad things to them.
    They had that in the warnable offense list at a corporation I worked for. It was in the new hire paperwork that I had to read through and sign.
    When I worked at the courthouse, popcorn wasn't allowed. Apparently it smells too good when done correctly and too bad when burned. 

    I still feel like a badass when I make popcorn here.
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  • levioosa said:
    beethery said:
    Someone just heated up fish in the microwave. I'm going to find this person and do bad things to them.
    They had that in the warnable offense list at a corporation I worked for. It was in the new hire paperwork that I had to read through and sign.
    Note to self: try to institute this policy. 

    I found the fish warmer upper. She's "eating healthy" and fish is all she can eat because it's the only healthy food that exists apparently. No. It is not. Also you had red vines and gummy bears for breakfast. I'm not judging the breakfast because I'd totally do that, I'm just saying don't bullshit me about eating healthy if that's your fucking breakfast.
    You would hate our office.  I work in a mainly Chinese office, and the things they do to our microwave linger all day.  I just make sure to make my food before they do, because if it's any time after 12:30 you can bet at least one or two people are making fish in the microwave and our microwave tends to transfer the smells to your food when you use it. My coworkers also crockpot stuff all day that smells super weird.  

    On the bright side, I get to see a lot of fruit I never knew existed before.  They brought these in yesterday:

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    That is the prettiest fruit I have ever in my life seen. Also it looks like a Skoosh ball.
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