No you can't bring your gun

ohannabelle · February 2015

majorkira said:

It's on over 800 acres of land. They offer it as one of over 100 different outdoor activities. the gun range is a drive away from everything and only shoots their own guns and is under the supervision of a professional. I don't mind if people shoot guns away from me. I don't see how them having a gun range is a blanket endorsement of having guns available and on hand at every event at all times?

If I had a venue that had a pool am I not allowed to say "please don't swim DURING the ceremony". Thats all I am asking really, no guns (concealed of otherwise) at the ceremony or other formal events. What they do outside of my presence is fine by me (assuming they aren't total assholes and intentionally frighten my liberal family)

Oh, no, that's not what I meant at all. I meant that people might assume you had an interest or were comfortable with it. If it's one out of a hundred activities, I probably wouldn't even be aware of it.

Like the swimming place example. I wouldn't think, that makes it okay to wear my bathing suit, but I might think, oh, they're into swimming.

ChemFanatic25 · February 2015

majorkira said:

pinkrevenge said:

majorkira said:

pinkrevenge said:

I feel like if you have family members who are that tied to their guns, telling them they can't bring their guns is going to result in them bringing all of their guns and very purposely brandishing them. Don't do that to yourself or your venue.

What I would do is let word travel that your venue is very strict on the responsible gun ownership, and anyone seen with their gun out would find themselves in the back of a paddy wagon.

Game plan: Spread word that the venue has strict personal weapon policy. Anyone openly refusing to disarm for the ceremony/ events will be disinvited. Anyone who agrees to be disarmed but brandishes their weapon will be promptly escorted off the property.

What? NO. That is not what I said!
What I said was that you let it spread by word of mouth that the exact concealed carry laws will be strictly enforced, meaning having guns out around alcohol and discharging them will leave them accountable to the venue following the law. You don't get involved at all. You leave this to your guests, the rules of the venue (so call them) and the local laws. YOU do not dictate anything.

The only way what I said was different from what you suggested was uninviting people who make it clear that they do not plan to follow the rules (and there has already been talk of that). If something were to happen (not that it would) and it came out that I knew someone was planning on breaking the law/ venue rules, that could leave me legally liable in a major way. Other than that I am leaving the communicating of the rules/ potential removal of irresponsible gun owners to the venue.

So does the venue have strict gun codes? (Example: Can't carry a gun anywhere except for on the shooting range.) If not, you can't tell them they can't carry their guns. You may want to remind them though if they whip their guns out, they will be asked to leave the premises, but that is different from someone carrying a gun and has a concealed weapon permit. Hopefully a person who is carrying a gun is responsible enough to even have a permit.

majorkira · February 2015

ChemFanatic25 said:

majorkira said:

pinkrevenge said:

majorkira said:

pinkrevenge said:

I feel like if you have family members who are that tied to their guns, telling them they can't bring their guns is going to result in them bringing all of their guns and very purposely brandishing them. Don't do that to yourself or your venue.

What I would do is let word travel that your venue is very strict on the responsible gun ownership, and anyone seen with their gun out would find themselves in the back of a paddy wagon.

Game plan: Spread word that the venue has strict personal weapon policy. Anyone openly refusing to disarm for the ceremony/ events will be disinvited. Anyone who agrees to be disarmed but brandishes their weapon will be promptly escorted off the property.

What? NO. That is not what I said!
What I said was that you let it spread by word of mouth that the exact concealed carry laws will be strictly enforced, meaning having guns out around alcohol and discharging them will leave them accountable to the venue following the law. You don't get involved at all. You leave this to your guests, the rules of the venue (so call them) and the local laws. YOU do not dictate anything.

The only way what I said was different from what you suggested was uninviting people who make it clear that they do not plan to follow the rules (and there has already been talk of that). If something were to happen (not that it would) and it came out that I knew someone was planning on breaking the law/ venue rules, that could leave me legally liable in a major way. Other than that I am leaving the communicating of the rules/ potential removal of irresponsible gun owners to the venue.

So does the venue have strict gun codes? (Example: Can't carry a gun anywhere except for on the shooting range.) If not, you can't tell them they can't carry their guns. You may want to remind them though if they whip their guns out, they will be asked to leave the premises, but that is different from someone carrying a gun and has a concealed weapon permit. Hopefully a person who is carrying a gun is responsible enough to even have a permit.

The venue doesn't allow outside weapons of any kind on the premises. Such a large percentage of their revenue is through alcohol that it would be a major liability. The shooting range has it's own guns and does not allow outside/ personal guns. In order to shoot on the range you have to 1. use their gun and 2. pay 250 an hour for an instructor. I'm starting to wonder if the person I'm most concerned about even has a permit.

flantastic · February 2015

Considering that this is something that you actually cannot control, and might make worse for yourself by doing anything other than asking the venue to escort out anyone behaving irresponsibly with a gun, I would not worry about this at all.

tammym1001 · February 2015

I have my conceal carry permit. I know when and where I'm allowed to carry my gun and when and where I'm not allowed to carry my gun. FTR, I wouldn't take my gun to anyone's wedding because I would be drinking; however, it would piss me off to no end to have someone who admittedly doesn't even like guns to try and tell me what I'm allowed to do with my gun. The law tells me what I'm allowed to do with my gun and they are the only ones that can tell me that.

I do try to be respectful of my friends that prefer not to be around guns, but it doesn't sound like your FI's family feels that same way. I'm afraid there isn't really anything you can do here. If they want to bring their guns then they will. If the venue doesn't allow outside firearms then you need to check with them and find out what will happen if someone brings a gun into the venue.

kittychik1318 · February 2015

I agree with @tammym1001. Part of being a responsible gun owner is being responsible and following the laws. To most people, I'm the "crazy gun nut" because I will exercise my rights to the fullest (via open and concealed carrying) but I am respectful of how my family/friends feel (if they don't like it, they won't know about it).

APDSS22 · February 2015

kittychik1318 said:

I agree with @tammym1001. Part of being a responsible gun owner is being responsible and following the laws. To most people, I'm the "crazy gun nut" because I will exercise my rights to the fullest (via open and concealed carrying) but I am respectful of how my family/friends feel (if they don't like it, they won't know about it).

This is it exactly. Not every gun owner is irresponsible. You can mention the venue policy by word of mouth or include it with your other (possible) venue dress restrictions in an insert or on your website. If you have security, alert them to the possibility of irresponsible brandishing and discharging of firearms so they can respond faster.

ChemFanatic25 · February 2015

majorkira said:

ChemFanatic25 said:

majorkira said:

pinkrevenge said:

majorkira said:

pinkrevenge said:

I feel like if you have family members who are that tied to their guns, telling them they can't bring their guns is going to result in them bringing all of their guns and very purposely brandishing them. Don't do that to yourself or your venue.

What I would do is let word travel that your venue is very strict on the responsible gun ownership, and anyone seen with their gun out would find themselves in the back of a paddy wagon.

Game plan: Spread word that the venue has strict personal weapon policy. Anyone openly refusing to disarm for the ceremony/ events will be disinvited. Anyone who agrees to be disarmed but brandishes their weapon will be promptly escorted off the property.

What? NO. That is not what I said!
What I said was that you let it spread by word of mouth that the exact concealed carry laws will be strictly enforced, meaning having guns out around alcohol and discharging them will leave them accountable to the venue following the law. You don't get involved at all. You leave this to your guests, the rules of the venue (so call them) and the local laws. YOU do not dictate anything.

The only way what I said was different from what you suggested was uninviting people who make it clear that they do not plan to follow the rules (and there has already been talk of that). If something were to happen (not that it would) and it came out that I knew someone was planning on breaking the law/ venue rules, that could leave me legally liable in a major way. Other than that I am leaving the communicating of the rules/ potential removal of irresponsible gun owners to the venue.

So does the venue have strict gun codes? (Example: Can't carry a gun anywhere except for on the shooting range.) If not, you can't tell them they can't carry their guns. You may want to remind them though if they whip their guns out, they will be asked to leave the premises, but that is different from someone carrying a gun and has a concealed weapon permit. Hopefully a person who is carrying a gun is responsible enough to even have a permit.

The venue doesn't allow outside weapons of any kind on the premises. Such a large percentage of their revenue is through alcohol that it would be a major liability. The shooting range has it's own guns and does not allow outside/ personal guns. In order to shoot on the range you have to 1. use their gun and 2. pay 250 an hour for an instructor. I'm starting to wonder if the person I'm most concerned about even has a permit.

Then I believe it's mention by word of mouth that guns are not allowed on the premises. If they want to go to the gun range they will have to rent guns and cannot bring their own. I don't know if you can mention that in the website but word of mouth most definitely. Also set up a bouncer. Anyone that shows up with a gun will be politely asked to leave.

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