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Spinoff: how clean is your house? (normally)

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Re: Spinoff: how clean is your house? (normally)

  • Okay, and people generally wipe their shoes off when they enter a house, sooooo... what is the difference?
    Just a personal preference. Might have been being raised in a house with no shoes but it is what FI and I prefer and will continue to ask people to take their shoes off in our house and we will always do that as well. I guess my question is, what is the huge aversion to taking your shoes off in a house? Do you wear shoes in your house? Do you think the floor is too dirty to walk on in other people's house? I'm actually very curious about this because to me it feels weird to not take them off as soon as I walk into a house, in my mind they are for protecting my feet outside, I don't need that on a nice surface inside. 

    My huge aversion to taking my shoes off is because I hate going barefooted or even in socks in any house, even my own.  When I am in my house I am wearing shoes or slippers, always.  And it isn't because I think your floor is too dirty, it is because your house is not a beach and/or I am not about ready to take a shower so no I don't want to walk around without shoes.

    I think there is a difference between those who live in your house doing something but when you start opening your house to visitors you need to be a bit more lax about what they wear.  It isn't like they are rolling around in mud and then rolling all over your white carpet.  They are just wearing shoes, shoes that are most likely just as 'dirty' as your dogs paws.

  • levioosa said:

    That to me seems a lot like the "my family loves me/does it, and so everybody else needs to do it too!"  logic that SSs use here all the time.

    It also feels like dictating what your guests wear/do with their clothes.  I don't mind asking people if they would like me to take off my shoes, especially if I go over and there is a pile of shoes by the door, or if they take theirs off.  But tell me I need to take them off and hand me some non-slip booties?  That's pretty rude, IMO. 
    The bolded is my main issue.  Don't come at me with your non slip booties.
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  • Okay, and people generally wipe their shoes off when they enter a house, sooooo... what is the difference?
    Just a personal preference. Might have been being raised in a house with no shoes but it is what FI and I prefer and will continue to ask people to take their shoes off in our house and we will always do that as well. I guess my question is, what is the huge aversion to taking your shoes off in a house? Do you wear shoes in your house? Do you think the floor is too dirty to walk on in other people's house? I'm actually very curious about this because to me it feels weird to not take them off as soon as I walk into a house, in my mind they are for protecting my feet outside, I don't need that on a nice surface inside. 

    Okay, but your reasoning makes no sense. If dogs don't need booties to protect from "outside nastiness", and wiping their paws is sufficient, it should not be any different for people.

    My aversion is to be told what I am and am not allowed to wear, not to taking off my shoes specifically. It is rude. What if I decided that my house had a no pants policy? Should you be expected to comfortably abide by that? Because IT IS MY SPESHUL HOUSE, MY SPESHUL RULES.

    And yes, I do wear shoes inside my house. Not all the time, but I don't feel the need to take them off INSTANTLY upon entering my house, or put on some crazy sterile booties or some shit, unless they are wet. My house is not a hospital room.
  • For those who think that shoes walk all over nastiness, do you have dogs?  Do you make your dogs wear socks inside the house?  Because if not, your dogs paws walk through all sorts of "nastiness" and they can't easily slip their paws off when they come in the house.


    And I really wanted to find a meme or gif of that scene from Sex and the City where Carrie goes to a baby shower and she is asked to take her shoes off and she is all "but this is an outfit."  But I couldn't find one :(
    Lol this is exactly why we give zero fucks about our carpet. We have a rental house with gross cheap carpet anyway. The previous tenant had 2 big dogs, and our landlord promised to have all the carpets cleaned before we moved in but he definitely didn't. 

    I wear muddy shoes in my house. I let my dogs in with muddy feet sometimes-- not on purpose but sometimes I don't realize that their feet are dirty (by the time they reach the bed or the couch, the mud has all been wiped off from walking on the carpet anyway). 

    This is why if I get on the floor to do a workout, I lay a blanket down, and then that blanket gets washed lol. 

    The carpet is the one thing in our house where I am gross and dirty and give no fucks. At some point we will go through the effort of renting a steam cleaner, but this has not happened yet. 
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  • I am thinking of doing those too, we had someone who was working on our furnace come in and of course he could not take of his boots, but I died a little inside, lol.  The cable guys always come with their own boot socks though and that is great!
    I'm also one who always take my shoes off going into someone's house. I would prefer people do the same at my house but never ask.

    I don't know why, but I like this sign (not that I would ever buy it or actually hang it or enforce the rule);

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  • I NEVER take my shoes off unless someone specifically asks me to (which I find awfully rude), or it is apparent that they don't want me to (i.e. they don't have shoes on/ no one else has shoes on). If someone insisted on be wearing weird booties or some shit (or even implied that I should, by having them at the door) I would not be visiting again, and would take my leave ASAP.



    Agree 100% with the bolded.  Look, I'll take my shoes off or ask YOU if you want me to take them off.  But you saying to me, um, would you mind removing your shoes? That's rude.  It would make me feel like you thought I was nasty or something.

    And having non slip booties is just plain absurd.

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  • Just a personal preference. Might have been being raised in a house with no shoes but it is what FI and I prefer and will continue to ask people to take their shoes off in our house and we will always do that as well. I guess my question is, what is the huge aversion to taking your shoes off in a house? Do you wear shoes in your house? Do you think the floor is too dirty to walk on in other people's house? I'm actually very curious about this because to me it feels weird to not take them off as soon as I walk into a house, in my mind they are for protecting my feet outside, I don't need that on a nice surface inside. 
    Okay, but your reasoning makes no sense. If dogs don't need booties to protect from "outside nastiness", and wiping their paws is sufficient, it should not be any different for people.

    My aversion is to be told what I am and am not allowed to wear, not to taking off my shoes specifically. It is rude. What if I decided that my house had a no pants policy? Should you be expected to comfortably abide by that? Because IT IS MY SPESHUL HOUSE, MY SPESHUL RULES.

    And yes, I do wear shoes inside my house. Not all the time, but I don't feel the need to take them off INSTANTLY upon entering my house, or put on some crazy sterile booties or some shit, unless they are wet. My house is not a hospital room.


    Thank you, that makes sense to me, it is something you do in your own house so it feels normal to be in shoes most of the time indoors. I really was just genuinely curious because I have never felt comfortable walking around houses in shoes. Personally I do not see pants and shoes as the same thing at all, and like I said before, if I am having a party where you most likely matched your shoes to your outfit I will not ask that everyone takes them off. I have never had a friend or family member even bat an eye at me asking them to take their shoes off and have never had anyone refuse. Most of my friends do the same thing in their house so I guess it's just the people I'm around. 

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  • Ok, so if you are the person who asks, what is the difference?  You are following the lead, as I said most people do.  It's polite to ask as you already do.  As for the slip booties that would be for people doing work in the house, not guests.  As I indicated I don't demand it.  If someone is uncomfortable I don't force the issue.  I think having something available for guests who do remove their shoes is accommodating and wanting them to be comfortable. 
    Really?  Once again, same logic as asking for money for a wedding, or help for the wedding versus someone offering.  I don't mind helping you out, but once you expect it all bets are off.  It's rude.  I'm not going to come into your space with shoes that I just ran through a sewer in. I'll take them off.  I also change right out of clothes that I have traveled in because they make me feel icky and I don't like them touching anything in my clean house.  But I would never demand that a guest I picked up from the airport immediately change clothes and take off their shoes before entering my house.  Also, too many people wear shoes without socks, and that is an unholy stench.


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  • I don't wear shoes in my house. But I would rather not wear shoes at all, ever. I just don't like shoes.

    But I don't remove them unless asked. Don't Chinese cultures think it is bad luck or something to wear shoes indoors? We are friends with a Chinese family and they always told people this.
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  • I, personally, find bare, possibly stinky, possibly fungus-having ass feet FAR more disgusting than "outside nastiness" or whatever the fuck we are talking about. Keep you fucking shoes ON in my house, for the love of god.




    But, she has non slip booties!  Problem Solved.

    Also, right now I'm letting my toes rest from polish, I do it every winter because my toes won't be shown as much as they are in the summer, and I think it's good to give them a breather from polish.

    I wear ballet flats a lot, and sometimes without socks.  So if I had to take off my ballet flats and expose my non painted toes and bare feet, I would be pretty embarrassed.

    And I would not be wearing your non slip booties.  It weirds me out because I would think who was wearing these before me? Were they washed?

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  • But, she has non slip booties!  Problem Solved.

    Also, right now I'm letting my toes rest from polish, I do it every winter because my toes won't be shown as much as they are in the summer, and I think it's good to give them a breather from polish.

    I wear ballet flats a lot, and sometimes without socks.  So if I had to take off my ballet flats and expose my non painted toes and bare feet, I would be pretty embarrassed.

    And I would not be wearing your non slip booties.  It weirds me out because I would think who was wearing these before me? Were they washed?

    YES EXACTLY. And, like, sometimes (usually they smell). 

    And yes, about the fucking booties. HELLLLLLLLL NO. Someone else's dead foot skin is probably in there, and you can just fuck right off with that shit.
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    You know how people always think toilet seats are SO dirty and gross, yet when scientist do swabs and petri dishes they always find more germs on cell phones, purses, door handles? I feel like this about the shoe thing. Like no offense but I'm not walking through manure at work all day so I'm not really sure where this idea comes from that my shoes are so gross and germy. I ask people if I sbould take my shoes off only when it's raining/ snowing and I would be tracking in actual dirt.

    Plus, you know the whole be exposed to more germs, get sick less often. That. A normal amount of germs is fine. I pack my shoes in my suitcase for trips touching clothes and I've never gotten sick or anything like that.

    I'm really late to this thread but have to reply to this. 
    I live in the city and we walk a lot, everywhere. The sidewalks that I traverse have doggie doo-doo residue, doggie urine, human vomit residue, spilled food items... and goodness knows what else. If I run in the park, I'm treading in goose feces. (Sure, I try to avoid this stuff, but sometimes you get distracted and don't see it all.)

    There is no way in hell I keep my shoes on in my home, and I ask all guests to remove their shoes too. 

    Edit to add: When I go to someone's home, I always ask if they prefer me to keep my shoes off or on. 
    Edit again to add: I don't own a dog and this is one reason why not. Dogs get filthy and I don't have a mudroom. I always wonder how so many city people keep their homes clean with dogs; maybe they stock a lot of towels by the door or something. 
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  • There is a very special level of stank that comes from bare feet in ballet flats. Kindly keep your shoes on forever. :)



    I agree. Another reason why I would be very embarrassed.

    I do use the insoles that help with the smell, but yes... it's not something I'm proud of haha

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  • jenna8984 said:You know how people always think toilet seats are SO dirty and gross, yet when scientist do swabs and petri dishes they always find more germs on cell phones, purses, door handles? I feel like this about the shoe thing. Like no offense but I'm not walking through manure at work all day so I'm not really sure where this idea comes from that my shoes are so gross and germy. I ask people if I sbould take my shoes off only when it's raining/ snowing and I would be tracking in actual dirt. Plus, you know the whole be exposed to more germs, get sick less often. That. A normal amount of germs is fine. I pack my shoes in my suitcase for trips touching clothes and I've never gotten sick or anything like that.

    I'm all about exposing myself to germs. I don't know how a germophobe could live in this city, honestly. I mean, I don't know how they live
    anywhere, but it's especially hard when you're packed in like sardines in a city with a 24-hour subway that has never, to my knowledge, been mopped. 
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    This baby knows exactly how I feel
  • We have a friend who prefers shoes off in his house, and he supplies disposable booties to wear OVER your shoes if you prefer to keep them on.  They don't have dogs.

    They did give us fair warning before we came over for a party and I suppose if people refused to put the booties on over their shoes or take them off the just didn't come.  I think a couple of people wore the booties for kicks.  It was hilarious.  :)
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  • jenna8984 said:

    You know how people always think toilet seats are SO dirty and gross, yet when scientist do swabs and petri dishes they always find more germs on cell phones, purses, door handles? I feel like this about the shoe thing. Like no offense but I'm not walking through manure at work all day so I'm not really sure where this idea comes from that my shoes are so gross and germy. I ask people if I sbould take my shoes off only when it's raining/ snowing and I would be tracking in actual dirt.

    Plus, you know the whole be exposed to more germs, get sick less often. That. A normal amount of germs is fine. I pack my shoes in my suitcase for trips touching clothes and I've never gotten sick or anything like that.

    I'm all about exposing myself to germs. I don't know how a germophobe could live in this city, honestly. I mean, I don't know how they live anywhere, but it's especially hard when you're packed in like sardines in a city with a 24-hour subway that has never, to my knowledge, been mopped. 

    I'm not a germophobe but I can for sure say I could NEVER live in a big city. I spent 2.5 months in Asia last year for work and about had a melt down riding the subway. I like my space, and I don't like people I don't know touching me, especially in the morning when I haven't had my coffee. I will be sticking to the country!

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    I am there right now.
  • jenna8984 said:

    You know how people always think toilet seats are SO dirty and gross, yet when scientist do swabs and petri dishes they always find more germs on cell phones, purses, door handles? I feel like this about the shoe thing. Like no offense but I'm not walking through manure at work all day so I'm not really sure where this idea comes from that my shoes are so gross and germy. I ask people if I sbould take my shoes off only when it's raining/ snowing and I would be tracking in actual dirt.

    Plus, you know the whole be exposed to more germs, get sick less often. That. A normal amount of germs is fine. I pack my shoes in my suitcase for trips touching clothes and I've never gotten sick or anything like that.

    YEAH ALL THE GERMS. 

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  • I am there right now.

    I am too, however I'm required to wear trouser socks or hose to work everyday so that helps a little with the STANK.
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  • I'm in the camp of I do not wear shoes in my own home.  Not for germs, but I don't like wearing shoes.   But I wouldn't dream of asking my guests to do the same.

    That said, 90% of the people who see our shoes in a pile always ask and/or just start taking them off.   I always say "you don't have to take them off".  Some still do, some leave them on.  I don't care either way.

    If it's wet outside everyone takes off their shoes without asking. 


    I have to honestly say I've never been to a house who demands we take off our shoes.  I don't normally offer either (unless it's wet outside).    


    Except in while living in Japan my parents always wear shoes. The maid gave them funny looks when they wore shoes so that stopped.  - LOL.    

     It drives my mom crazy that I don't wear shoes.  She fucking hates it.  She thinks that is gross.  Their floors always look nice.  Carpets always look new.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 

  • I am too, however I'm required to wear trouser socks or hose to work everyday so that helps a little with the STANK.
    Wait, your employer tells you that you have to wear socks?  I mean I've heard of like no flip flops or sandals, but that seems kinda silly to dictate socks/hosiery. 

  • You don't have to wear the socks/slippers provided... They are there if you want them for your convenience...hardwood floors get cold.  But by no means do you have to wear them and again by all means if taking off your shoes is truly offensive, no one is forcing you to remove them. 

    Just walking outside you are stepping in bird feces, other animal feces, and lord knows what else. I spent most of my adult life training in martial arts.  You ALWAYS removed your shoes before stepping on a mat.  You are taught to respect your space and well, you spend a good portion of that time rolling around on them, and even still with removing your shoes shit still gets dirty.  I like to minimize the amount of street dirt that is in my home.  I like to be barefoot in my home and not worry about what was tracked in by my shoes or anyone else's for that matter. 

    We will all have to agree to disagree on this one.  It's not like I would walk into someone else's home and judge them for not removing their shoes.  And my home is not a wedding, this is where I live and sleep, it should be respected.  You can still be a good and gracious host if you ask someone to remove their shoes.

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