So uh hi

PrettyGirlLost · July 2015

KatieinBkln said:

luckya23 said:

I am loving how so many people claimed to have known that Magic/ Vulgar girl was a catfish and yet no one actually stood up and said anything.
I am not ashamed to admit that she fooled me.
And incur the wrath of the devotees? No thanks.

Speaking as an admitted "devotee" (ugh. I liked her. I stuck up for her when I thought she was right. I guess that means I was basically a cult member), I'm rolling my eyes a little at that. I'm not that scary. Maybe others are? No idea. But it's pretty cowardly to come out now and say the only reason you (and others) didn't say anything was because you were scared to engage in a discussion on the boards about it. Worst case scenario, someone disagrees with you, vehemently, publicly. Best case? It spurs the admins to look into it further, and then you get to be extra super gloaty when those vehement supporters look like total morons for defending a catfish. Win-win.

Cut me a fucking break with this.

Agreeing with a person on a topic or multiple topics or posts or multiple posts doesn't make one a devotee. This isn't a cult, for crying out loud.

I agree *and* disagree with many of you on many, many things. Doesn't mean I'm going to drink your fucking Kool Aide!

KatieinBkln · July 2015

PrettyGirlLost said:

KatieinBkln said:

luckya23 said:

I am loving how so many people claimed to have known that Magic/ Vulgar girl was a catfish and yet no one actually stood up and said anything.
I am not ashamed to admit that she fooled me.
And incur the wrath of the devotees? No thanks.

Speaking as an admitted "devotee" (ugh. I liked her. I stuck up for her when I thought she was right. I guess that means I was basically a cult member), I'm rolling my eyes a little at that. I'm not that scary. Maybe others are? No idea. But it's pretty cowardly to come out now and say the only reason you (and others) didn't say anything was because you were scared to engage in a discussion on the boards about it. Worst case scenario, someone disagrees with you, vehemently, publicly. Best case? It spurs the admins to look into it further, and then you get to be extra super gloaty when those vehement supporters look like total morons for defending a catfish. Win-win.

Cut me a fucking break with this.

Agreeing with a person on a topic or multiple topics or posts or multiple posts doesn't make one a devotee. This isn't a cult, for crying out loud.

I agree *and* disagree with many of you on many, many things. Doesn't mean I'm going to drink your fucking Kool Aide!

Sorry, I forgot my sarcasm font!:

arrippa · July 2015

I wasn't suspicious that she was catfishing but I was suspicious that she was a tattoo artist. I wanted to see her work so I did try to find her shop in AZ.

Unpopular opinion- I don't particularly care that she was not who she says she is. She was entertaining. I come here when I am bored at work so if I am entertained, it's all good. I do understand why people are upset and why it's against TOS. I guess I don't care too much because this is the internet and I pretty much take all posters here with grain of salt.

emmaaa · July 2015

arrippa said:

I wasn't suspicious that she was catfishing but I was suspicious that she was a tattoo artist. I wanted to see her work so I did try to find her shop in AZ.
Unpopular opinion- I don't particularly care that she was not who she says she is. She was entertaining. I come here when I am bored at work so if I am entertained, it's all good. I do understand why people are upset and why it's against TOS. I guess I don't care too much because this is the internet and I pretty much take all posters here with grain of salt.

To my understanding, being a catfish is not against the TOS. Creating an AE account and using said account is against the TOS. The Bump had a catfish who was actually being paid to catfish by MTV which made them a vendor and being a vendor will get you banned.

ETA: According to @KatWAG, The Bump situation was not what I originally remembered.

@KnotRiley @KnotHolly I'm curious, is being a catfish a ban-able offense?

KatWAG · July 2015

photokitty said:

KatWAG said:

emmaaa said:

KatWAG said:

southernbelle0915 said:

KatWAG said:

southernbelle0915 said:

@KatWAG - the suspicion was raised a long time ago. We looked into it and tried to prove it but couldn't. Sometimes it's easier to prove what someone IS rather than what they are NOT if that makes sense.

And, frankly, can you imagine the backlash if we had banned MI/VG because of an unproven suspicion? People would have freaked the fuck out.

But Isnt it the mods and Knot Gods job to regulate the boards? Isnt that what you signed up for?
And the fact that you did nothing because you were scared is crap. Grow a back bone and deal with backlash.

LOL ok...

Did I say we were scared? Nope. What I DID say (if you would read) is that we couldn't prove it. So we didn't take action on something we couldn't prove. Do you have a problem with that? Would it be your personal preference that we had just been like "eh, she might be a catfish....go ahead and ban her"?

No you didn't say you were scared but I think its pretty clear that you were.
If all these people supposedly knew, why didn't anyone you non - "devotees" question one of her stories, or her lack of pictures? And then let it unfold.

I'm curious. You are basically saying that we should have stood up and said, yeah we think she's playing us. She may be a catfish.

Yet, you also say you (and many others) also had suspicions that she wasn't who she said she was, yet y'all said nothing.

Being a catfish is not technically against TOS. Creating an AE account is.

ETA: Our responsibiliy as mods is to monitor the board for TOS violations.

Yes, exactly I am saying if you had your suspicions you should have said some thing. I admitted several pages ago that I was completely fooled. So, what I really don't understand is that if some many people knew (devotees or not) why didn't one person clue everyone else in?
edit: words

Everyone being the forum as a whole? Or the mods and admins?
Bc the latter was done. The mods and admins have talked about MI being a catfish. Research was done. As I have said, it's difficult to prove someone doesn't exist. I don't think it's right to warn the whole community unless you have proof or she is doing something to endanger members. Posting a warning of that type would be a personal attack on a user IMHO.

The catfish was clever with her cookies. In the past you may recall users being banned accidentally by an IP ban for a vendor - was that SarahWifeNow IRCC? IPs are not always computer specific. The admins have been watching MI for a while. I'm sure they are grateful for any and all help from current or past users that provided assistance in confirming MI was a catfish.

At the same time, I'm not sure that being a catfish is a bannable offense. The Bump's infamous catfish was a producer for MTV's tv show - my understanding is she was banned as a vendor.

BOXES

This isn't true. I was the one who posted the bump drama on TK, since it all happened on my bump month board.

All the catfish drama exploded, then some random created an account claiming to be a producer for MTV's Catfish. That random said they wanted to do an episode on what went down on the bump and asked for people to PM the "producer" for more info. That person, and the catfish were banned.

ETA: the women who did all the digging on this found the true catfish and the person whose pictures she was using. She went so far as to post the catfish's full name and phone number (I definitely don't agree with that) And that woman was also banned, but I don't know if it was because she posted personal info or because the bump went nuts not long after this thread.

PrettyGirlLost · July 2015

ShesSoCold said:

JCbride2015 said:

KatWAG said:

luckya23 said:

I am loving how so many people claimed to have known that Magic/ Vulgar girl was a catfish and yet no one actually stood up and said anything.
I am not ashamed to admit that she fooled me.
And incur the wrath of the devotees? No thanks.

Those "devotee" you are referring to and the ones who outed her.

Truth. This has been discussed by many of the people you probably think of as "devotees," for well over a year.

I want to point out that there's a difference, in my opinion, between a run of the mill troll (usually someone who got their nose tweaked and assumes an AE to stomp around and stir shit) and someone who "catfishes." A catfish isn't looking for revenge or deliberately on a site to cause havoc. It's typically someone who creates a very elaborate new self, and maintains that false identity. The reasons for this are probably many and deep and complicated, but typically boil down to this: a person who feels that their genuine self is not adequately interesting or entertaining or confident or in some way "good enough."

I don't want to publicly kick someone who feels that way.

I find it sad. Because if someone is funny and entertaining and interesting as a persona they simply create, I would have liked the real person behind the false persona just as well. Probably more.

And that's what I'd say to the person formerly known as Magic Ink, if I was to go all Mommish, which I often do. You were funny. You were entertaining. You made valid points, and brought up valid issues. I would have liked the real you. You didn't ever need to be someone else. Truth.

Per usual Annabelle is wise. This is basically how I feel. I thought I "knew" Magic off board and enjoyed talking with her. Now I feel betrayed and sad and yeah, angry.
I definitely thought she was exaggerating some stuff about her life. But I did not think she was completely invented. Some other community members were more suspicious, investigated, and figured it out. TK only banned her once the "followers" outed her. We agreed about a lot of stuff and I wanted to think I knew her, but we are not blind lemmings.

TK banned her when the admins saw that POG was an AE of hers. The AE was her fifth warning and therefore a ban.

I saw the TH thread and thought, "huh - interesting" but that wasn't why she was banned. Any one of us here could be a catfish - there's no way for TK to know.

Aw grreat, now everyone is going to be out with their stakes and pitchforks!!!!!

Fran1985 · July 2015

luckya23 said:

KatieinBkln said:
I can't blame mods for not figuring it out. I certainly didn't. She was around over a year as MagicInk, FFS!

I maintain that it's obnoxious at best and cowardly at worst to come out of the woodwork now like, "Oh yeah, I totes suspected." I'm not talking about mods, who I am sure were doing whatever they could with their suspicions via back channels. As they've said, there's only so much you can do to prove a negative. But the 20-20 hindsight stuff is lame.

It makes me sad if anyone was afraid of being jumped on if they had mentioned their suspicions. But fair enough. There have been plenty of times when I've seen a thread and said, NOPE, not today! What's not cute is mentioning that you had those suspicions now. I don't even know why it bugs me, but it does. Nobody gets a gold star. Nobody gets a cookie. We all were either hoodwinked completely or complicit in letting it happen, sometimes both at the same time. It's a shitty feeling, and one that can't be assuaged by saying "I had my suspicions."

As sad/pissed off as I am about it, I'm glad she's banned now. People do feel a certain amount of trust in this community, so it's always a shot to the heart when someone violates it so grossly.

For me, it's more a feeling of validation that that much drama wasn't real rather than feeling betrayed or anything the people who are shocked are feeling. I don't care if "I suspected first" or anything like that. I think thats what the "I'm not shocked" people are getting at. More an "oh that's interesting" rather than saying they have superior detective skills.

My own suspicions weren't worth sharing with the class either way. Not my circus.

I am totally surprised about PrincessofGenovia though!

"Not my circus" you say... What a coincidental turn of phrase... Or is it!?!

photokitty · July 2015

KatWAG said:

photokitty said:

KatWAG said:

emmaaa said:

KatWAG said:

southernbelle0915 said:

KatWAG said:

southernbelle0915 said:

@KatWAG - the suspicion was raised a long time ago. We looked into it and tried to prove it but couldn't. Sometimes it's easier to prove what someone IS rather than what they are NOT if that makes sense.

And, frankly, can you imagine the backlash if we had banned MI/VG because of an unproven suspicion? People would have freaked the fuck out.

But Isnt it the mods and Knot Gods job to regulate the boards? Isnt that what you signed up for?
And the fact that you did nothing because you were scared is crap. Grow a back bone and deal with backlash.

LOL ok...

Did I say we were scared? Nope. What I DID say (if you would read) is that we couldn't prove it. So we didn't take action on something we couldn't prove. Do you have a problem with that? Would it be your personal preference that we had just been like "eh, she might be a catfish....go ahead and ban her"?

No you didn't say you were scared but I think its pretty clear that you were.
If all these people supposedly knew, why didn't anyone you non - "devotees" question one of her stories, or her lack of pictures? And then let it unfold.

I'm curious. You are basically saying that we should have stood up and said, yeah we think she's playing us. She may be a catfish.

Yet, you also say you (and many others) also had suspicions that she wasn't who she said she was, yet y'all said nothing.

Being a catfish is not technically against TOS. Creating an AE account is.

ETA: Our responsibiliy as mods is to monitor the board for TOS violations.

Yes, exactly I am saying if you had your suspicions you should have said some thing. I admitted several pages ago that I was completely fooled. So, what I really don't understand is that if some many people knew (devotees or not) why didn't one person clue everyone else in?
edit: words

Everyone being the forum as a whole? Or the mods and admins?
Bc the latter was done. The mods and admins have talked about MI being a catfish. Research was done. As I have said, it's difficult to prove someone doesn't exist. I don't think it's right to warn the whole community unless you have proof or she is doing something to endanger members. Posting a warning of that type would be a personal attack on a user IMHO.

The catfish was clever with her cookies. In the past you may recall users being banned accidentally by an IP ban for a vendor - was that SarahWifeNow IRCC? IPs are not always computer specific. The admins have been watching MI for a while. I'm sure they are grateful for any and all help from current or past users that provided assistance in confirming MI was a catfish.

At the same time, I'm not sure that being a catfish is a bannable offense. The Bump's infamous catfish was a producer for MTV's tv show - my understanding is she was banned as a vendor.

BOXES

This isn't true. I was the one who posted the bump drama on TK, since it all happened on my bump month board.

All the catfish drama exploded, then some random created an account claiming to be a producer for MTV's Catfish. That random said they wanted to do an episode on what went down on the bump and asked for people to PM the "producer" for more info. That person, and the catfish were banned.

***BOX***

Says who, you?

Is it possible you don't know all the facts?

luckya23 · July 2015

Fran1985 said:

luckya23 said:

KatieinBkln said:
I can't blame mods for not figuring it out. I certainly didn't. She was around over a year as MagicInk, FFS!

I maintain that it's obnoxious at best and cowardly at worst to come out of the woodwork now like, "Oh yeah, I totes suspected." I'm not talking about mods, who I am sure were doing whatever they could with their suspicions via back channels. As they've said, there's only so much you can do to prove a negative. But the 20-20 hindsight stuff is lame.

It makes me sad if anyone was afraid of being jumped on if they had mentioned their suspicions. But fair enough. There have been plenty of times when I've seen a thread and said, NOPE, not today! What's not cute is mentioning that you had those suspicions now. I don't even know why it bugs me, but it does. Nobody gets a gold star. Nobody gets a cookie. We all were either hoodwinked completely or complicit in letting it happen, sometimes both at the same time. It's a shitty feeling, and one that can't be assuaged by saying "I had my suspicions."

As sad/pissed off as I am about it, I'm glad she's banned now. People do feel a certain amount of trust in this community, so it's always a shot to the heart when someone violates it so grossly.
For me, it's more a feeling of validation that that much drama wasn't real rather than feeling betrayed or anything the people who are shocked are feeling. I don't care if "I suspected first" or anything like that. I think thats what the "I'm not shocked" people are getting at. More an "oh that's interesting" rather than saying they have superior detective skills.

My own suspicions weren't worth sharing with the class either way. Not my circus.

I am totally surprised about PrincessofGenovia though!

"Not my circus" you say... What a coincidental turn of phrase... Or is it!?!

Is it? Ok...

KatieinBkln · July 2015

Fran1985 said:

I can't blame mods for not figuring it out. I certainly didn't. She was around over a year as MagicInk, FFS!

I maintain that it's obnoxious at best and cowardly at worst to come out of the woodwork now like, "Oh yeah, I totes suspected." I'm not talking about mods, who I am sure were doing whatever they could with their suspicions via back channels. As they've said, there's only so much you can do to prove a negative. But the 20-20 hindsight stuff is lame.

It makes me sad if anyone was afraid of being jumped on if they had mentioned their suspicions. But fair enough. There have been plenty of times when I've seen a thread and said, NOPE, not today! What's not cute is mentioning that you had those suspicions now. I don't even know why it bugs me, but it does. Nobody gets a gold star. Nobody gets a cookie. We all were either hoodwinked completely or complicit in letting it happen, sometimes both at the same time. It's a shitty feeling, and one that can't be assuaged by saying "I had my suspicions."

As sad/pissed off as I am about it, I'm glad she's banned now. People do feel a certain amount of trust in this community, so it's always a shot to the heart when someone violates it so grossly.
For me, it's more a feeling of validation that that much drama wasn't real rather than feeling betrayed or anything the people who are shocked are feeling. I don't care if "I suspected first" or anything like that. I think thats what the "I'm not shocked" people are getting at. More an "oh that's interesting" rather than saying they have superior detective skills. My own suspicions weren't worth sharing with the class either way. Not my circus. I am totally surprised about PrincessofGenovia though!
"Not my circus" you say... What a coincidental turn of phrase... Or is it!?!

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.

PrettyGirlLost · July 2015

KatieinBkln said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

KatieinBkln said:

luckya23 said:

I am loving how so many people claimed to have known that Magic/ Vulgar girl was a catfish and yet no one actually stood up and said anything.
I am not ashamed to admit that she fooled me.
And incur the wrath of the devotees? No thanks.

Speaking as an admitted "devotee" (ugh. I liked her. I stuck up for her when I thought she was right. I guess that means I was basically a cult member), I'm rolling my eyes a little at that. I'm not that scary. Maybe others are? No idea. But it's pretty cowardly to come out now and say the only reason you (and others) didn't say anything was because you were scared to engage in a discussion on the boards about it. Worst case scenario, someone disagrees with you, vehemently, publicly. Best case? It spurs the admins to look into it further, and then you get to be extra super gloaty when those vehement supporters look like total morons for defending a catfish. Win-win.

Cut me a fucking break with this.

Agreeing with a person on a topic or multiple topics or posts or multiple posts doesn't make one a devotee. This isn't a cult, for crying out loud.

I agree *and* disagree with many of you on many, many things. Doesn't mean I'm going to drink your fucking Kool Aide!

Sorry, I forgot my sarcasm font!:

I was just using your post as a springboard for my annoyannce. Carry on!

loveislouder · July 2015

Okay, now another question - the Miley Cyrus account seems to me to be a reg that just switches to the Miley account when they have something Miley-ish to say. Is this an issue or allowed? Just trying to clarify things.

Maggie0829 · July 2015

PrettyGirlLost said:

ShesSoCold said:

JCbride2015 said:

KatWAG said:

luckya23 said:

I am loving how so many people claimed to have known that Magic/ Vulgar girl was a catfish and yet no one actually stood up and said anything.
I am not ashamed to admit that she fooled me.
And incur the wrath of the devotees? No thanks.

Those "devotee" you are referring to and the ones who outed her.

Truth. This has been discussed by many of the people you probably think of as "devotees," for well over a year.

I want to point out that there's a difference, in my opinion, between a run of the mill troll (usually someone who got their nose tweaked and assumes an AE to stomp around and stir shit) and someone who "catfishes." A catfish isn't looking for revenge or deliberately on a site to cause havoc. It's typically someone who creates a very elaborate new self, and maintains that false identity. The reasons for this are probably many and deep and complicated, but typically boil down to this: a person who feels that their genuine self is not adequately interesting or entertaining or confident or in some way "good enough."

I don't want to publicly kick someone who feels that way.

I find it sad. Because if someone is funny and entertaining and interesting as a persona they simply create, I would have liked the real person behind the false persona just as well. Probably more.

And that's what I'd say to the person formerly known as Magic Ink, if I was to go all Mommish, which I often do. You were funny. You were entertaining. You made valid points, and brought up valid issues. I would have liked the real you. You didn't ever need to be someone else. Truth.

Per usual Annabelle is wise. This is basically how I feel. I thought I "knew" Magic off board and enjoyed talking with her. Now I feel betrayed and sad and yeah, angry.
I definitely thought she was exaggerating some stuff about her life. But I did not think she was completely invented. Some other community members were more suspicious, investigated, and figured it out. TK only banned her once the "followers" outed her. We agreed about a lot of stuff and I wanted to think I knew her, but we are not blind lemmings.

TK banned her when the admins saw that POG was an AE of hers. The AE was her fifth warning and therefore a ban.

I saw the TH thread and thought, "huh - interesting" but that wasn't why she was banned. Any one of us here could be a catfish - there's no way for TK to know.

Aw grreat, now everyone is going to be out with their stakes and pitchforks!!!!!

arrippa · July 2015

loveislouder said:

Okay, now another question - the Miley Cyrus account seems to me to be a reg that just switches to the Miley account when they have something Miley-ish to say. Is this an issue or allowed? Just trying to clarify things.

Leave her out of it. I love that Miley account. It always cracks me up.

photokitty · July 2015

loveislouder said:

Okay, now another question - the Miley Cyrus account seems to me to be a reg that just switches to the Miley account when they have something Miley-ish to say. Is this an issue or allowed? Just trying to clarify things.

The best way to handle a situation where you think a user is an AE, is to PM @knotholly or @knotriley

KnotRiley · July 2015

photokitty said:

loveislouder said:

Okay, now another question - the Miley Cyrus account seems to me to be a reg that just switches to the Miley account when they have something Miley-ish to say. Is this an issue or allowed? Just trying to clarify things.

The best way to handle a situation where you think a user is an AE, is to PM @knotholly or @knotriley

I've looked into her account, didn't see any matches to other accounts. She also doesn't really stir anything up or really cross any TOS lines, just comes in with one or two ridiculous comments then leaves.

thespeshulestsnowflake · July 2015

Maggie0829 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

ShesSoCold said:

JCbride2015 said:

KatWAG said:

luckya23 said:

I am loving how so many people claimed to have known that Magic/ Vulgar girl was a catfish and yet no one actually stood up and said anything.
I am not ashamed to admit that she fooled me.
And incur the wrath of the devotees? No thanks.

Those "devotee" you are referring to and the ones who outed her.

Truth. This has been discussed by many of the people you probably think of as "devotees," for well over a year.

I want to point out that there's a difference, in my opinion, between a run of the mill troll (usually someone who got their nose tweaked and assumes an AE to stomp around and stir shit) and someone who "catfishes." A catfish isn't looking for revenge or deliberately on a site to cause havoc. It's typically someone who creates a very elaborate new self, and maintains that false identity. The reasons for this are probably many and deep and complicated, but typically boil down to this: a person who feels that their genuine self is not adequately interesting or entertaining or confident or in some way "good enough."

I don't want to publicly kick someone who feels that way.

I find it sad. Because if someone is funny and entertaining and interesting as a persona they simply create, I would have liked the real person behind the false persona just as well. Probably more.

And that's what I'd say to the person formerly known as Magic Ink, if I was to go all Mommish, which I often do. You were funny. You were entertaining. You made valid points, and brought up valid issues. I would have liked the real you. You didn't ever need to be someone else. Truth.

Per usual Annabelle is wise. This is basically how I feel. I thought I "knew" Magic off board and enjoyed talking with her. Now I feel betrayed and sad and yeah, angry.
I definitely thought she was exaggerating some stuff about her life. But I did not think she was completely invented. Some other community members were more suspicious, investigated, and figured it out. TK only banned her once the "followers" outed her. We agreed about a lot of stuff and I wanted to think I knew her, but we are not blind lemmings.

TK banned her when the admins saw that POG was an AE of hers. The AE was her fifth warning and therefore a ban.

I saw the TH thread and thought, "huh - interesting" but that wasn't why she was banned. Any one of us here could be a catfish - there's no way for TK to know.

Aw grreat, now everyone is going to be out with their stakes and pitchforks!!!!!

KatieinBkln · July 2015

thespeshulestsnowflake said:

Maggie0829 said:

PrettyGirlLost said:

ShesSoCold said:

JCbride2015 said:

KatWAG said:

luckya23 said:

I am loving how so many people claimed to have known that Magic/ Vulgar girl was a catfish and yet no one actually stood up and said anything.
I am not ashamed to admit that she fooled me.
And incur the wrath of the devotees? No thanks.

Those "devotee" you are referring to and the ones who outed her.

Truth. This has been discussed by many of the people you probably think of as "devotees," for well over a year.

I want to point out that there's a difference, in my opinion, between a run of the mill troll (usually someone who got their nose tweaked and assumes an AE to stomp around and stir shit) and someone who "catfishes." A catfish isn't looking for revenge or deliberately on a site to cause havoc. It's typically someone who creates a very elaborate new self, and maintains that false identity. The reasons for this are probably many and deep and complicated, but typically boil down to this: a person who feels that their genuine self is not adequately interesting or entertaining or confident or in some way "good enough."

I don't want to publicly kick someone who feels that way.

I find it sad. Because if someone is funny and entertaining and interesting as a persona they simply create, I would have liked the real person behind the false persona just as well. Probably more.

And that's what I'd say to the person formerly known as Magic Ink, if I was to go all Mommish, which I often do. You were funny. You were entertaining. You made valid points, and brought up valid issues. I would have liked the real you. You didn't ever need to be someone else. Truth.

Per usual Annabelle is wise. This is basically how I feel. I thought I "knew" Magic off board and enjoyed talking with her. Now I feel betrayed and sad and yeah, angry.
I definitely thought she was exaggerating some stuff about her life. But I did not think she was completely invented. Some other community members were more suspicious, investigated, and figured it out. TK only banned her once the "followers" outed her. We agreed about a lot of stuff and I wanted to think I knew her, but we are not blind lemmings.

TK banned her when the admins saw that POG was an AE of hers. The AE was her fifth warning and therefore a ban.

I saw the TH thread and thought, "huh - interesting" but that wasn't why she was banned. Any one of us here could be a catfish - there's no way for TK to know.

Aw grreat, now everyone is going to be out with their stakes and pitchforks!!!!!

Bubblegum5586 · July 2015

Well I am shocked about all of this. I clearly am not on TK as much as I thought I was, because I never once questioned any of this. I come on for the drama and advice and then forget about it until the next time.

[Deleted User] · July 2015

I was duped. I do think Magic Ink made good points about things, but yeah she often did it in very polarizing ways.

There were many times I'd just say, "Nope, not touching that today" and move on.

hellosweetie1015 · July 2015

KnotRiley said:

photokitty said:

loveislouder said:

Okay, now another question - the Miley Cyrus account seems to me to be a reg that just switches to the Miley account when they have something Miley-ish to say. Is this an issue or allowed? Just trying to clarify things.

The best way to handle a situation where you think a user is an AE, is to PM @knotholly or @knotriley

I've looked into her account, didn't see any matches to other accounts. She also doesn't really stir anything up or really cross any TOS lines, just comes in with one or two ridiculous comments then leaves.

I'm going to come out and say I like her too. Even if she is an AE, I hope she can be an exception to the rule. Hello, whoever is Miley's main account.

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Re: Vulgar/Magic/Genovia: I had no clue. Like, I kind of figure everyone lies on the internet to some extent, to protect their info or whatever. I'll own that I've lied a little here on personal info and stuff, just to keep myself and the people I love safe, as these boards are available to anyone who might happen upon them. And I try to take that into account, of course, regarding other posters. I guess I'm naive, and gullible, because generally I trust that even if people are lying about some things, I'm not having the wool pulled too far over my eyes overall.

But I agreed with Magic on a lot of things, and a lot of the time "her" persona convinced me to examine the privilege I carry just by being a straight, cis-gendered, white person, even if she did choose to do so in an extreme and sometimes-polarizing way. So now I feel like I've been had, and someone I honestly thought was helping, at least indirectly, to make me a better person, was never the person I'd believed "her" to be. And... it makes me sad, and more than a little skeeved out. I've shared some small personal info here, but I've shared a little more with Magic offboard, and knowing that a person I thought was trustworthy, and a person I'd rather grown to like, was not even really a person who existed is extremely jarring.

And Magic, if you're lurking, the worst part is that I would have liked you just as much if you'd presented your honest self. I would have had the same feelings of friendship toward you. I would have been happy for your successes in life, and sad for those things that didn't turn out as you'd hoped, just as I am for every other poster on this board (even the ones I'm not always getting along with). It breaks my heart that you didn't feel confident enough in your honest self to show us that.

Heffalump · July 2015

So does this mean the unity cocktail was made-up, too? [sad face]

ShesSoCold · July 2015

Heffalump said:

So does this mean the unity cocktail was made-up, too? [sad face]

I've been to a wedding with a unity cocktail. Years and years ago. it was great.

thespeshulestsnowflake · July 2015

Heffalump said:

So does this mean the unity cocktail was made-up, too? [sad face]

That might be one of the worst parts about this whole thing!

mrsdee15 · July 2015

Whoooaaaaa whoa whoa. I am late to this party, but I was totally fooled. Looking back on it now though, I'm surprised that the turkey baster story didn't make my spidey sense tingle even more. I remember thinking it was a super weird story at the time, but hey, sure.

I don't get why people catfish. I think it's sad that people feel the need to create this entire alter ego online. Also, I used to think I wouldn't ever be fooled by a fake persona when I watched Catfish... I guess I was wrong. That was pretty elaborate, she has been on I think the entire time I've had an account, almost a year.

hellohkb · July 2015

I feel sorry for whoever posed as MI. Why dupe so many people into liking you? Clearly if they had just been themselves a lot of people still would have liked them. I enjoyed their social justice posts. A lot of the other stuff that didn't make sense, not so much.

No need to make yourself seem like this super cool woman with this super exciting crazy life who has all these threesomes and whatnot. It's just sad. I have made a lot of friends on another board I post on, some who I've met IRL and talk to frequently. I'd be sad to know some of those people were catfishing. It's just not cool.

ETA: To the people who talked to her outside of TK, I'm really sorry this happened to you. Really. Because I know that would suck kind of a lot.

loveislouder · July 2015

Does anyone find themselves questioning things now? Like... if I didn't know I was real I'd think I was an AE because I don't post pictures of us and we've had some pretty outlandish things happen in our lives.

luckya23 · July 2015

loveislouder said:
Does anyone find themselves questioning things now? Like... if I didn't know I was real I'd think I was an AE because I don't post pictures of us and we've had some pretty outlandish things happen in our lives.

I can't bold on mobile, but I LOL'd at "if I didn't know I was real."

Eta: I don't really post our pics either.
Eta again : Except I forgot that I put one in my new ticker!

WinstonsGirl · July 2015

It's too bad about this. I liked "both" posters and though Magic offered a some good introspective into the LGBTQ community, especially since QueerFemme isn't around as much anymore. But I also don't get too involved into the lives of people here, since it's hard to make connections (time zones, posting times, remembering everything, etc.), so it wasn't as much of an issue for me.

I do feel bad for those who had a connection, or for those who felt "run off" the boards by someone who turned out to not be anyone from comments made.

photokitty · July 2015

mrsdee15 said:

Whoooaaaaa whoa whoa. I am late to this party, but I was totally fooled. Looking back on it now though, I'm surprised that the turkey baster story didn't make my spidey sense tingle even more. I remember thinking it was a super weird story at the time, but hey, sure.

I don't get why people catfish. I think it's sad that people feel the need to create this entire alter ego online. Also, I used to think I wouldn't ever be fooled by a fake persona when I watched Catfish... I guess I was wrong. That was pretty elaborate, she has been on I think the entire time I've had an account, almost a year.

Honestly, that was the thing that tipped me off. Maybe bc my sister and her wife tried for 10 months before they were able to conceive with their doctor's help and actual AI (not IVF), where they but the sperm way up in at the top of your uterus...so something about a coffee cup full of spunk from the BFF, sitting on the counter with a "medical grade turkey baster" working on the very first cycle - just didn't add up in my head.

That one blew my BS meter. Part me me was going I was hoping I was just bitter that other people were shockingly that lucky when my sister wasn't, but turns out it was all just a bunch of lies.

So uh hi

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