This Actually Happened

ChemFanatic25 · July 2015

Casadena said:

I had a medical school interview yesterday. Of the 5 prospective students expected, two were late (like over an hour late), one didn't show, and the other brought her mom.
Are you kidding me?

My first company I started working for after college, I was late for the interview by a minute and I was panicking on the inside all because of traffic (I had underestimated the surrounding area's traffic). I also went to the wrong building so I was one hot mess. Well it worked out and they hired me.

So when I interviewed for my current job to avoid having this situation happen again I gave myself an EXTRA HOUR and just hung around the town before the interview. I identified where the building was and where the entrance was. I felt way less frazzled and rocked that interview too.

julieanne912 · July 2015

thisismynickname said:

To all of you who have had these insane interviewees, do you get to give feedback on why the person doesn't get the job?

There are people out there whining, "No one will hire me and everyone sucks and fuck The Man and blah blah blah," yet I wonder how many of those people are completely clueless about this behavior...

I've done hiring (although never experienced anything like others have in the thread), and I didn't give feedback, because I feel like the type of person who acts like it's everyone else's fault they don't have a job, is also the type of person to get aggressive when you give them negative feedback. It's not my job, as an employer, to teach them common sense or general adulting skills. If they're actually concerned they should go to a class or research interviewing skills online.

AddieCake · July 2015

@loveislouder, I'm sorry those things happened to you. That's abhorrent.

novella1186 · July 2015

ChemFanatic25 said:

Casadena said:

I had a medical school interview yesterday. Of the 5 prospective students expected, two were late (like over an hour late), one didn't show, and the other brought her mom.
Are you kidding me?

My first company I started working for after college, I was late for the interview by a minute and I was panicking on the inside all because of traffic (I had underestimated the surrounding area's traffic). I also went to the wrong building so I was one hot mess. Well it worked out and they hired me.
So when I interviewed for my current job to avoid having this situation happen again I gave myself an EXTRA HOUR and just hung around the town before the interview. I identified where the building was and where the entrance was. I felt way less frazzled and rocked that interview too.

I do the same thing for job interviews. If I have no idea where the building is, I'll drive to it the day before just to make SURE I don't get lost or something and end up being late. And then I'll get there super early and just hang out around town or go for a little drive around the area to try to get familiar with it, whatever. Being late isn't really an option, IMO.

[Deleted User] · July 2015

thisismynickname said:

To all of you who have had these insane interviewees, do you get to give feedback on why the person doesn't get the job?

There are people out there whining, "No one will hire me and everyone sucks and fuck The Man and blah blah blah," yet I wonder how many of those people are completely clueless about this behavior...

@thisismynickname every company I have ever worked for has a policy to NOT give feedback on why a person wasn't selected. The world is too litigious today to accommodate it. It's also too discriminatory as well.

Example about too litigious: I did a phone interview w/ a woman and decided not to move forward further. She tried filing an EEOC charge for racial discrimination. Um- I never saw you. It was a PHONE interview.

Example about too discriminatory: Had a 74 year old male try to disqualify a 59 year old candidate. (Oh the irony...) The dumb ass sent me an email saying "this candidate is 59 years old!" And he actually did it just like that- he made the "59" ten times larger than the rest of the text. I made him do the interview anyway. We didn't end up hiring the guy, but there were some valid reasons why, thankfully.

[Deleted User] · July 2015

novella1186 said:

ChemFanatic25 said:

Casadena said:

I had a medical school interview yesterday. Of the 5 prospective students expected, two were late (like over an hour late), one didn't show, and the other brought her mom.
Are you kidding me?

My first company I started working for after college, I was late for the interview by a minute and I was panicking on the inside all because of traffic (I had underestimated the surrounding area's traffic). I also went to the wrong building so I was one hot mess. Well it worked out and they hired me.
So when I interviewed for my current job to avoid having this situation happen again I gave myself an EXTRA HOUR and just hung around the town before the interview. I identified where the building was and where the entrance was. I felt way less frazzled and rocked that interview too.

I do the same thing for job interviews. If I have no idea where the building is, I'll drive to it the day before just to make SURE I don't get lost or something and end up being late. And then I'll get there super early and just hang out around town or go for a little drive around the area to try to get familiar with it, whatever. Being late isn't really an option, IMO.

Me too.

julieanne912 · July 2015

novella1186 said:

ChemFanatic25 said:

Casadena said:

I had a medical school interview yesterday. Of the 5 prospective students expected, two were late (like over an hour late), one didn't show, and the other brought her mom.
Are you kidding me?

My first company I started working for after college, I was late for the interview by a minute and I was panicking on the inside all because of traffic (I had underestimated the surrounding area's traffic). I also went to the wrong building so I was one hot mess. Well it worked out and they hired me.
So when I interviewed for my current job to avoid having this situation happen again I gave myself an EXTRA HOUR and just hung around the town before the interview. I identified where the building was and where the entrance was. I felt way less frazzled and rocked that interview too.

I do the same thing for job interviews. If I have no idea where the building is, I'll drive to it the day before just to make SURE I don't get lost or something and end up being late. And then I'll get there super early and just hang out around town or go for a little drive around the area to try to get familiar with it, whatever. Being late isn't really an option, IMO.

Same here! If I can't drive there beforehand, I scope it out on google maps with both the satellite and street view, and also figure out where I can park, that way I'm not frantically looking for parking 10 minutes before an interview.

princessleia22 · July 2015

julieanne912 said:

thisismynickname said:

To all of you who have had these insane interviewees, do you get to give feedback on why the person doesn't get the job?

There are people out there whining, "No one will hire me and everyone sucks and fuck The Man and blah blah blah," yet I wonder how many of those people are completely clueless about this behavior...

I've done hiring (although never experienced anything like others have in the thread), and I didn't give feedback, because I feel like the type of person who acts like it's everyone else's fault they don't have a job, is also the type of person to get aggressive when you give them negative feedback. It's not my job, as an employer, to teach them common sense or general adulting skills. If they're actually concerned they should go to a class or research interviewing skills online.

Last time DH was job hunting, he had looked for several months and wasn't finding anything. His resume looked good, but he still wasn't getting called for interviews. And the few interviews he did get called for, he never got called back afterward. So, he went to the local community college and set an appointment with the job skills/career advisor. She helped tweak his resume a bit. Then they went through a couple of mock interviews. They scheduled the interview for later that week, he dressed up, showed up on time with resume in hand, and they conducted it like an actual job interview. Afterward, she gave him critique on it and what to improve. Then they set up another interview appointment for the following week. At that one, she invited a different advisor to come and interview him while she just watched, so he was being questioned by someone he was unfamiliar with. It helped him a lot with his interviewing skills... and he found a job fairly quickly after that.

There are resources out there, people just need to take advantage of them. It's not the potential employers job to teach people how to interview properly.

AddieCake · July 2015

novella1186 said:

I do the same thing for job interviews. If I have no idea where the building is, I'll drive to it the day before just to make SURE I don't get lost or something and end up being late. And then I'll get there super early and just hang out around town or go for a little drive around the area to try to get familiar with it, whatever. Being late isn't really an option, IMO.

I have done this for appointments or get-togethers even, if possible. You just never know what the parking, traffic, etc situation may be. I'm a nervous driver, and I hate that feeling of being lost and not knowing where to go added to the possible stress of why I'm going.

[Deleted User] · July 2015

FeeleyToBe said:

thisismynickname said:

To all of you who have had these insane interviewees, do you get to give feedback on why the person doesn't get the job?

There are people out there whining, "No one will hire me and everyone sucks and fuck The Man and blah blah blah," yet I wonder how many of those people are completely clueless about this behavior...

@thisismynickname every company I have ever worked for has a policy to NOT give feedback on why a person wasn't selected. The world is too litigious today to accommodate it. It's also too discriminatory as well.

Example about too litigious: I did a phone interview w/ a woman and decided not to move forward further. She tried filing an EEOC charge for racial discrimination. Um- I never saw you. It was a PHONE interview.

Example about too discriminatory: Had a 74 year old male try to disqualify a 59 year old candidate. (Oh the irony...) The dumb ass sent me an email saying "this candidate is 59 years old!" And he actually did it just like that- he made the "59" ten times larger than the rest of the text. I made him do the interview anyway. We didn't end up hiring the guy, but there were some valid reasons why, thankfully.

____

All of this... We give detailed feedback to all of our internal associates who interview, and will just give a general declination reason to external candidates. If we were really honest with every candidate, our legal counsel would not be happy. There are times when I'll say that someone needed to be more specific in their responses, or something along those lines, but that's about it.

Another recruiter on my team had a man claim age discrimination.... except we hired someone older than him.

novella1186 · July 2015

AddieCake said:

novella1186 said:

I do the same thing for job interviews. If I have no idea where the building is, I'll drive to it the day before just to make SURE I don't get lost or something and end up being late. And then I'll get there super early and just hang out around town or go for a little drive around the area to try to get familiar with it, whatever. Being late isn't really an option, IMO.

I have done this for appointments or get-togethers even, if possible. You just never know what the parking, traffic, etc situation may be. I'm a nervous driver, and I hate that feeling of being lost and not knowing where to go added to the possible stress of why I'm going.

Yeah I remember doing this for my first day of grad school. The building I had classes in was in a location I wasn't familiar with at all, so I took a drive over there. My GPS took me to the wrong place and then I got lost. When I finally found a correct route, the road was closed for construction so I got lost again. It should have taken about a half hour to get there but it ended up taking me over an hour. I was SO GLAD I did that ahead of time so I didn't end up being super late to my first day of class. I probably would have cried (I can't stand the feeling of being lost OR walking into class late)

thisismynickname2 · July 2015

Appreciate the responses, that's interesting! I haven't had an outside interview in a long time (neither has DH) and internally, people generally are willing to give feedback.

It didn't even occur to me the legal side of things. I did hear once my organization was involved in an equal-opportunity lawsuit from someone who wasn't hired. I believe our legal counsel actually just gave them demographic information about everyone who does work here and the lawsuit was dropped right quick (we're very diverse). It saddens me that people either think discrimination is the only reason they don't get a job, or just use the availability of a lawsuit to their advantage. I've even heard it's very difficult to fire anyone around here because the paper trail must be a mile long to avoid, or head off, an "inevitable" discrimination lawsuit.

wandajune6 · July 2015

I recently interviewed a master's student looking for a job with my company. He showed up in jeans, a polo shirt and flip flops. He was 15 minutes late and talked about how much he loved the casualness of "startup culture."

I was the first person to interview him and not the main decision-maker. My boss, the person who makes these decisions, was so unimpressed that she didn't even bother to meet with him herself.

Not cool.

lachattefatale · July 2015

wandajune6 said:

I recently interviewed a master's student looking for a job with my company. He showed up in jeans, a polo shirt and flip flops. He was 15 minutes late and talked about how much he loved the casualness of "startup culture."

I was the first person to interview him and not the main decision-maker. My boss, the person who makes these decisions, was so unimpressed that she didn't even bother to meet with him herself.

Not cool.

I was the only person in a suit at the group interview I mentioned earlier, and the interview was for a state government position. People and their clothes just kill me.

[Deleted User] · July 2015

AlisonM23 said:

FeeleyToBe said:

thisismynickname said:

To all of you who have had these insane interviewees, do you get to give feedback on why the person doesn't get the job?

There are people out there whining, "No one will hire me and everyone sucks and fuck The Man and blah blah blah," yet I wonder how many of those people are completely clueless about this behavior...

@thisismynickname every company I have ever worked for has a policy to NOT give feedback on why a person wasn't selected. The world is too litigious today to accommodate it. It's also too discriminatory as well.

Example about too litigious: I did a phone interview w/ a woman and decided not to move forward further. She tried filing an EEOC charge for racial discrimination. Um- I never saw you. It was a PHONE interview.

Example about too discriminatory: Had a 74 year old male try to disqualify a 59 year old candidate. (Oh the irony...) The dumb ass sent me an email saying "this candidate is 59 years old!" And he actually did it just like that- he made the "59" ten times larger than the rest of the text. I made him do the interview anyway. We didn't end up hiring the guy, but there were some valid reasons why, thankfully.

____

All of this... We give detailed feedback to all of our internal associates who interview, and will just give a general declination reason to external candidates. If we were really honest with every candidate, our legal counsel would not be happy. There are times when I'll say that someone needed to be more specific in their responses, or something along those lines, but that's about it.

Another recruiter on my team had a man claim age discrimination.... except we hired someone older than him.

Or, if they're external legal counsel, they'd be VERY happy with you for bringing them so much business.

[Deleted User] · July 2015

novella1186 said:

I do the same thing for job interviews. If I have no idea where the building is, I'll drive to it the day before just to make SURE I don't get lost or something and end up being late. And then I'll get there super early and just hang out around town or go for a little drive around the area to try to get familiar with it, whatever. Being late isn't really an option, IMO.

I have done this for appointments or get-togethers even, if possible. You just never know what the parking, traffic, etc situation may be. I'm a nervous driver, and I hate that feeling of being lost and not knowing where to go added to the possible stress of why I'm going.

Yeah I remember doing this for my first day of grad school. The building I had classes in was in a location I wasn't familiar with at all, so I took a drive over there. My GPS took me to the wrong place and then I got lost. When I finally found a correct route, the road was closed for construction so I got lost again. It should have taken about a half hour to get there but it ended up taking me over an hour. I was SO GLAD I did that ahead of time so I didn't end up being super late to my first day of class. I probably would have cried (I can't stand the feeling of being lost OR walking into class late)

A good reason not to turn up late to class. I had to take a Theater 100 course in college; it was held in a small theater on campus that held about 100 people; and because it was a pre-req for a lot of theater majors and just a good gen ed for the rest of us, just about EVERY seat was taken. The two empty seats at the start of class were in about rows 3-4; right in front of where our instructor was sitting on stage.

Girl walks in and can't find an empty seat b/c they're way down front. Instructor tells her she has to come down front and as she's walking down he asks her name. She say, "M'queef." And he said, in front of 98 people, "so your name is mmmmm vaginal fart?"

I mean, it was pretty damn unprofessional of him to say that but yeah, that's why you get your ass to class on time! I didn't think to report him at the time- probably should have...

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