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Pretty upset, tonight

edited August 2015 in Chit Chat
I'm just having a really hard day.  My husband's second cousin took his life.  He went to our wedding, and was a really sweet guy, but we were closer to his parents. My heart aches for them.  He died in a way that is so tragic, I gasped when my husband told me. H's second cousin went to a cemetery and lit himself on fire.  He was treated, in the hospital, but finally succumbed to his injuries, today, and was removed from machines. It is so heartbreaking to think about what he must have been thinking.
  For all that know me, my grandmother took her life several years ago, on Christmas eve. I tortured myself for years over my Grandma's death: blaming myself, looking for signs I missed, thinking about what I could have done to save her. I thought for years about the instant my grandmother died, and how alone she must have felt.  It was agony.  Now, our loved ones are probably going through the same process.
  If I could, I wish I never knew how my grandma died.  Suicide is a legitimate cause of death, but hearing the details of how their loved ones took their life is not important for the grieving.  It took me a long time to get past her death and. instead, remember how she lived.  I told my husband he should not mention how he died, especially to his family.  I cannot imagine their pain, right now, and being in their shoes before, I know casual talk of suicide hurts almost as much as their loved one's death.  I don't want to talk to anyone about this IRL, but my bad memories of my grandma's death are flooding in... it is going to be a long night.
  Even though my husband wasn't close to his second cousin, I hate to talk about how I am hurting to H.  I can't really help my thoughts, though.  So I thought I would be a terrible person here, and tell people how this pain in my H's family's lives is making me think about my pain, and how it never really goes away, it just gets managed.  I just feel like crap, though, that I am thinking about something that happened 8 years ago, at a time when someone else is hurting.  It's pretty shitty when you think you've gotten over something the best you ever will, and you realize the pain isn't too far beneath the surface.
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  • Every loss taps into an older loss, reminding us that our connections run deeper than we know. Even as you grieve for your grandmother again, this fresh well of empathy may be a healing balm for people around you. May you find peace too.
  • Thanks. I feel somewhat relieved to know what I am feeling isn't abnormal.
  • That's terrible. I'm really sorry.
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  • I'm so very sorry for your loss. How awful. 

    The person that I considered my mentor killed himself last year. We just passed the one year anniversary. At the time he did this, he was splitting up from his wife. I was actually in the process of helping him find an apartment (he wanted to move back to county). I blamed myself for a long time, constantly thinking what I could have done to stop him. He texted me the day before he did this, and then I kept texting him the next day, waiting to her back. It crushed me. But my friend was unfortunately experiencing things that he didn't want to share with me, and there was nothing I could have done. 

    Again, I'm so sorry. I know how badly it hurts. 
  • I'm so so sorry for your loss.
  • I'm sorry. This is a tragic story, and it's normal to feel awful and traumatized, especially if this is the second time your family has been affected by suicide. Allow yourself to hurt and grieve and do not beat yourself up about it. You should start to feel better gradually over the next few days but if you don't then you should know it's time to start talking to someone about it. Best wishes.
  • I'm so sorry for the loss of your family but also for the sadness it is bringing back from your grandmother's death.

    I think suicide is something that is hard for so many people to wrap our heads around. I had a friend who took his own life a few months ago. We had gone to school together since elementary school and he was one of my close friends in high school. After high school, we all drifted apart and I don't think he ever felt like he found a place to "fit." It has been hard on a lot of people because we feel guilty and wish we could have stopped it.

    It hurts to think about where a person had to be in order think death was their only option.

    i'm so sorry you have to go through this and have it bring up bad memories.

  • I'm so very sorry.


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  • So very sorry.  My thoughts are with you today. 
  • Sending hugs your way. I'm sorry. 
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  • So sad to hear this.  I get it, cos you want to be there to support your DH, but it's bringing up all the feelings/memories for you.  So you be there for DH and we'll be here for you 

  • I'm very sorry for your loss.  Hugs and prayers for you and your DH.
  • I am so sorry for you and your family. I think it is completely normal that this loss has brought up feelings from the death of your grandmother, and you shouldn't feel guilty about it.
  • I'm sorry for you and your husband's family's loss.

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  • I am so sorry. Don't feel guilty or bad just because this is bringing up the grief from losing your grandmother. It's ok; you're allowed to have heartache. Feel however you need to feel, and talk to your H about it if you need to. Maybe it will prompt him to share some of what's on his mind about this loss and you two can support each other. 

    My best friend died in a car accident when I was in high school, and years later when I thought I was ok, I met a girl in college whose little brother had just been killed in a car accident. It brought up all that grief all over again. We sat down at the kitchen table and cried our eyes out together, and shared what hurt the most and why, and we related a lot to each other and actually took comfort that someone else knew how we were feeling. It was extremely cathartic for both of us. I was able to express sympathy for her loss and still be sad for my own loss without downplaying what she was going through, and opening up helped her open up and get all those awful thoughts/feelings out. 

    Just in my opinion, sometimes when you understand/can relate to what someone else might be going through, it can actually help you both to talk about it. 

    All the hugs to you. 
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  • I am so so so sorry for your loss. I just feel so bad for everyone involved.
  • That is so sad to read about your cousin, OP. I think everyone deals with death differently there isn't one way to grieve and that is it. Whatever you are feeling is perfectly valid, give yourself time to grieve. If anything your experience with your grandmother will give you an ability to empathize with your H and his family. 
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  • Thank you, ladies. Your kind words have helped me so much.  I am feeling a little better, since last night.  I know, in a few days, it will get better, and I can use my experience to understand the pain H's aunt is going through. Suicide is very hard because very few people can understand the guilt of surviving a loss like this. I hope H's aunt will confide in me, because recovery is a struggle, and it helps to know someone has gone through it and was able to come out the other side.
  • Thank you, ladies. Your kind words have helped me so much.  I am feeling a little better, since last night.  I know, in a few days, it will get better, and I can use my experience to understand the pain H's aunt is going through. Suicide is very hard because very few people can understand the guilt of surviving a loss like this. I hope H's aunt will confide in me, because recovery is a struggle, and it helps to know someone has gone through it and was able to come out the other side.
    His aunt may confide in you and she may not. Just keep in mind that if she doesn't it doesn't mean she doesn't want to and its some fault of you, she may just not be ready. I think letting her know you are there to talk if she needs it is the greatest gift you can give. She will know you are there if she needs someone and will reach out when she is ready. 
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  • I'm very sorry to hear this. I'm very sorry for your loss.
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  • I am so sorry to hear about this. I know what it's like to have a new loss bring up an old loss. For myself, I ended up going to grief counseling to help with everything. I'm not sure if that's an option for you.

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  • I'm so sorry, Muffin.  I'm glad you're doing better today.  You know how long it takes to go through the grieving process, and how you can land right back at the beginning no matter how long it's been.  Even if your husband's aunt doesn't want to talk right now, it'll help knowing that you're there if she does.

    I know what it's like to feel like you should have been able to do something.  The wife of one of our groomsmen took her life the night of our wedding shower.  The kicker was - I'm a police officer, and the first time I actually met her (months before I met the rest of the group and J) was when she threatened suicide the summer before.  I was able to find her, have a good talk with her, and get her to help.  But, a year later, I couldn't do anything to help her.

    I like what @WinstonsGirl said - you be there for your husband, and we'll be here for you.

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    Just wanted to add that I am thinking of you, too, and sending healing vibes towards you and your H and your families. I can't fathom what it is like to go through something like this. I'm not surprised that it has dredged up a lot of emotions for you. I don't have any words that would make this easier for you but I want you to know you have my very sincere sympathy and loving thoughts. 
  • I am so sorry.  In most cases, I think a person who takes their own life is not doing it because of other people.  They simply want to escape the emotional pain that they are living.  There is no reason for you to blame yourself.  Thoughts and prayers for your whole family.
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  • I'm so sorry dear! I understand the feelings suicide can stir up in you when you lose someone close as a result, and how those feelings can linger. I understand how it can feel "awkward' (for lack of a better word) to talk about. I've had it both with a very close friend and my grandfather. If need to talk anything out more, you can PM me. Don't feel guilty for it stirring up feelings and hurting, you're only human.
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  • I am so so sorry for you loss *hug*. Please don't hesitate to message me if you need someone to listen.


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  • I just want to thank you all for your support.  Sometimes, I forget that there is no right way to grieve. Healing from the death of a loved one isn't always a forward direction. I have been doing much better these past few days, but the wake is this weekend.  I hope I can keep it together to support H's family, and just cry afterward, if I feel the need to. You ladies have been wonderful, It was really helpful to collect myself before I talked to my husband. Hugs to you all.
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    My mother took her own life earlier this year. The only thing I can say is that you don't have to feel a certain way, and neither does your H's family. Knowing that I had people who I could go to when I was mad at my mom for what she did, or relieved that I didn't have to keep living waiting for that call, without worrying about judgement was incredibly helpful. In the same vein, don't hold yourself responsible for being an emotional support for someone when you are struggling with grief yourself. Hope the wake was healing for you. 
  • I don't have much to add, just wanted to send my love. Grief is hard, I think grief after suicider is harder because there are so many questions and what ifs. You are not alone and your concern for your husband while reliving your pain speaks to how good of a wife you must be.
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