What bloody week #?

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• charlotte989875 member

  

  May 2017

  So like someone should look into why the Civil War happened. I mean seems like a big deal. 

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• TrixieJess member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  charlotte989875 said:

  
  

  So like someone should look into why the Civil War happened. I mean seems like a big deal. 

  
  

  
  I know right? It seems to be about some angry people...

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• southernbelle0915 mod

  

  May 2017

  Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States of America:
  

  TRUMP: They said my campaign is most like, my campaign and win was most like Andrew Jackson with his campaign. And I said, "When was Andrew Jackson?" It was 1828. That's a long time ago. That's Andrew Jackson. And he had a very, very mean and nasty campaign. Because they said this was the meanest and the nastiest. And unfortunately it continues.

  ZITO: His wife died.

  TRUMP: His wife died. They destroyed his wife and she died. And, you know, he was a swashbuckler. But when his wife died, you know, he visited her grave every day. I visited her grave actually, because I was in Tennessee.

  ZITO: Oh, that's right, you were in Tennessee.

  TRUMP: And it was amazing. The people of Tennessee are amazing people. Well, they love Andrew Jackson. They love Andrew Jackson in Tennessee.

  ZITO: Yeah, he's a fascinating —

  TRUMP: I mean, had Andrew Jackson been a little later, you wouldn't have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart, and he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War. He said, "There's no reason for this." People don't realize, you know, the Civil War, you think about it, why?

  ZITO: Yeah —

  TRUMP: People don't ask that question. But why was there the Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?

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• levioosa member

  

  May 2017

  My rage meter has invented new levels. 
  
  Everyone talks about how Trump wants to take us back 50 years to "the good old days." I didn't realize he actually wants to take us back to thoe 1800's.  Don't know why that surprises me. 
  

  
  

  
  

  

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• MissKittyDanger member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  levioosa said:

  
  

  My rage meter has invented new levels. 
  
  Everyone talks about how Trump wants to take us back 50 years to "the good old days." I didn't realize he actually wants to take us back to the 1800's.  Don't know why that surprises me. 
  

  
  

  
  Because you know 2017-50 is not 1800s lol ... but you know, Trump math

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• mrsconn23 member

  

  May 2017

  I just watched the new House of Cards trailer and it's a fucking scary ass world when Frank Underwood seems less terrifying and threatening than our real-life president. 
  
  I find it interesting that shows like Veep and HoC have situations that even a year ago seemed implausible and now, it's like they could be a documentary of the current state of US politics. 

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• levioosa member

  

  May 2017 edited May 2017

  
  
  

  mrsconn23 said:

  
  
  

  I just watched the new House of Cards trailer and it's a fucking scary ass world when Frank Underwood seems less terrifying and threatening than our real-life president. 
  
  I find it interesting that shows like Veep and HoC have situations that even a year ago seemed implausible and now, it's like they could be a documentary of the current state of US politics. 

  
  
  

  
  
  Last night SO said, "let's watch the new House of Cards season together when it comes out. It will seem like a break and less scary than reality." My response to him was "the fact that it's less terrifying than reality is exactly why I can't watch it right now." 

  
  

  
  

  

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• Heffalump member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  levioosa said:

  
  

  My rage meter has invented new levels. 
  
  Everyone talks about how Trump wants to take us back 50 years to "the good old days." I didn't realize he actually wants to take us back to thoe 1800's.  Don't know why that surprises me. 
  

  
  

  
  
  One of my best friends/MOH was black.  (I know, right: "Some of my best friends are black!"  It's not like that.)  We met at work, and we used to work with this woman who was a southern transplant up north, over the top to the point where she was kind of a caricature.  (She actually said "I declare!" once and we almost died.) 
  
  One Halloween, she put on her "Southern belle" costume, which was the usual petticoat/parasol/whole nine yards thing.  (She had some eyeroll-worthy story about how her sorority did an event every year where they all dressed up in these costumes and had some sort of procession and god only knows what else.)  And she was going on about how it was "such a romantic period of our history" and it was a shame that we had "lost" all that.  MOH stared her down and said, point blank, "Not for me."  Much backpedaling ensued.
  
  I just don't get how people don't think, and/or don't care.
  

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• mrsconn23 member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  levioosa said:

  
  

  
  
  
  

  mrsconn23 said:

  
  
  
  

  I just watched the new House of Cards trailer and it's a fucking scary ass world when Frank Underwood seems less terrifying and threatening than our real-life president. 
  
  I find it interesting that shows like Veep and HoC have situations that even a year ago seemed implausible and now, it's like they could be a documentary of the current state of US politics. 

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  Last night SO said, "let's watch the new House of Cards season together when it comes out. It will seem like a break and less scary than reality." My response to him was "the fact that it's less terrifying than reality is exactly why I can't watch it right now." 

  
  

  
  I'll watch the shit out of it, but yeah...the whole life imitating art imitating life is fucked up. 

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• southernbelle0915 mod

  

  May 2017

  
  

  Heffalump said:

  
  

  
  
  

  levioosa said:

  
  
  

  My rage meter has invented new levels. 
  
  Everyone talks about how Trump wants to take us back 50 years to "the good old days." I didn't realize he actually wants to take us back to thoe 1800's.  Don't know why that surprises me. 
  

  
  
  

  
  
  
  One of my best friends/MOH was black.  (I know, right: "Some of my best friends are black!"  It's not like that.)  We met at work, and we used to work with this woman who was a southern transplant up north, over the top to the point where she was kind of a caricature.  (She actually said "I declare!" once and we almost died.) 
  
  One Halloween, she put on her "Southern belle" costume, which was the usual petticoat/parasol/whole nine yards thing.  (She had some eyeroll-worthy story about how her sorority did an event every year where they all dressed up in these costumes and had some sort of procession and god only knows what else.)  And she was going on about how it was "such a romantic period of our history" and it was a shame that we had "lost" all that.  MOH stared her down and said, point blank, "Not for me."  Much backpedaling ensued.
  
  I just don't get how people don't think, and/or don't care.
  

  
  

  
  #privilege
  
  And these are the same kind of people who will claim that the Civil Rights Act "took care of" racism. 

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• MissKittyDanger member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  Heffalump said:

  
  

  
  
  

  levioosa said:

  
  
  

  My rage meter has invented new levels. 
  
  Everyone talks about how Trump wants to take us back 50 years to "the good old days." I didn't realize he actually wants to take us back to thoe 1800's.  Don't know why that surprises me. 
  

  
  
  

  
  
  
  One of my best friends/MOH was black.  (I know, right: "Some of my best friends are black!"  It's not like that.)  We met at work, and we used to work with this woman who was a southern transplant up north, over the top to the point where she was kind of a caricature.  (She actually said "I declare!" once and we almost died.) 
  
  One Halloween, she put on her "Southern belle" costume, which was the usual petticoat/parasol/whole nine yards thing.  (She had some eyeroll-worthy story about how her sorority did an event every year where they all dressed up in these costumes and had some sort of procession and god only knows what else.)  And she was going on about how it was "such a romantic period of our history" and it was a shame that we had "lost" all that.  MOH stared her down and said, point blank, "Not for me."  Much backpedaling ensued.
  
  I just don't get how people don't think, and/or don't care.
  

  
  

  
  People romanticize quite a bit of history. They don't look at the era as a whole, just bits and pieces.
  Like when people do it with the 50s. People just like the idea of manners, dressing cute, sock hops and sharing a milkshake, but ignore the fact women didn't have rights, black people were getting hung.
  
  People will always remember what they want to.
  
  Good for your MOH for saying something! Reminded that lady that life wasn't always great for everyone!

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• VarunaTT member

  

  May 2017

  At least Frank and Claire Underwood are highly intelligent, educated, speak in complete sentences, control themselves, and have goals.  I think Trump is just flailing and throwing shit to see what sticks.  I can't even think of HIM as evil b/c I think he's so completely incompetent.  He's dangerous b/c he's so completely incompetent, stupid, and volatile.

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• short+sassy member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  southernbelle0915 said:

  
  

  TRUMP: People don't ask that question. But why was there the Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?

  
  

  
  Seriously?  SERIOUSLY!?!?

  Dude, it STILL isn't worked out.

  Long story short (very long story), last week NOLA removed a statue/obelisk from a public street that was honoring white supremacy.  You'd think we could just stop there that this ugliness is FINALLY being removed in 2017, smh.  But no.  They were so worried about violent protestors, that the obelisk was removed...by men wearing body armor with their faces covered...in the dead of night at about 3AM.  There were even SNIPERS on the surrounding roof tops, in case of trouble.

  So...yeah...when snipers need to defend taking down a monument to white supremacy.  Things have still not been "worked out".

  Next on NOLA's agenda is taking down three statues of Confederate leaders around town.  There has already been violence on this.  One of the contractors who had been bidding on removing the statues had his car torched.

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  Dear South--

  Y'all lost.  Why is your s**t still around 150+ years later?

  Sincerely,

  The Present
  

  

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• VarunaTT member

  

  May 2017

  I have a friend who I thought posted a really well thought out, nuanced piece re: the monuments to/from the Civil War.  He's a trained historian -- his worry is that removal will cause a "whitewashing" of the Civil War.  His approach was that leave the old monuments, but change the story surrounding them to be a teaching moment, not of Southern pride, but of historical accuracy and a reminder of how wrong things can go.  He did state that some of them would have to go (formal displays of the Confederate flag for instance) and had suggestions for how to decide.
  
  I did think he was right about that and it was a perspective I hadn't really considered.

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• kimmiinthemitten member

  

  May 2017

  All this talk about his first 100 days pains me, we are not even one third of the way through his first year!
  
  Fingers crossed the AHCA revision 2 fails this week. 

  
  

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• short+sassy member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  kimmiinthemitten said:

  
  

  All this talk about his first 100 days pains me, we are not even one third of the way through his first year!
  
  Fingers crossed the AHCA revision 2 fails this week. 

  
  

  
  
  I predict Trump years are going to feel like dog years.  As in, 1 year feels like it is 7.  Because it has only been 3 months, but feels sooooo much longer.

  

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• sparklepants41 member

  

  May 2017

  And it just gets better: Trump's pick for army secretary is a freaking creationist. 

  

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• VarunaTT member

  

  May 2017

  This is making me sick:  https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/04/25/new-alt-right-“fight-club”-ready-street-violence
  
  
  

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• MissKittyDanger member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  sparklepants41 said:

  
  

  And it just gets better: Trump's pick for army secretary is a freaking creationist. 

  
  

  
  of course it is ...

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• levioosa member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  MissKittyDanger said:

  
  

  
  
  

  sparklepants41 said:

  
  
  

  And it just gets better: Trump's pick for army secretary is a freaking creationist. 

  
  
  

  
  
  of course it is ...

  
  

  
  Pence is probably wetting himself with glee.

  
  

  
  

  

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• VarunaTT member

  

  May 2017

  *sigh*  The burnout is real:  http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/trump_to_sign_anti_lgbt_religious_freedom_executive_order

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• kimmiinthemitten member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  levioosa said:

  
  

  
  
  

  MissKittyDanger said:

  
  
  

  
  
  
  

  sparklepants41 said:

  
  
  
  

  And it just gets better: Trump's pick for army secretary is a freaking creationist. 

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  of course it is ...

  
  
  

  
  
  Pence is probably wetting himself with glee.

  
  

  
  This "abortion cause breast cancer" nutjob has Pence's writing all over it!
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/05/01/trump-picks-antiabortion-activist-to-head-hhs-family-planning-program/?utm_term=.91be1c1f337d
  
  

  
  

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• kimmiinthemitten member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  VarunaTT said:

  
  

  *sigh*  The burnout is real:  http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/trump_to_sign_anti_lgbt_religious_freedom_executive_order

  
  

  
  Based on the draft I'm confident this wouldn't pass through the Supreme Court.

  
  

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• short+sassy member

  

  May 2017 edited May 2017

  
  
  

  VarunaTT said:

  
  
  

  *sigh*  The burnout is real:  http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/trump_to_sign_anti_lgbt_religious_freedom_executive_order

  
  
  

  
  
  
  It's sickening that a wonderful idea...religious freedom...has had its meaning twisted beyond recognition to actually mean "fewer rights for everybody else".

  I'm also sickened that the idea of "separation of church and state" has just been trampled into the dirt over the last few decades.

  Edited because I have further thoughts on this subject.

  "Separation of church and state" used to be my go-to argument with people who were against same sex marriage.  Because when I'd ask why they were against it, the response was always ALWAYS "because it's against my religion."

  And here's where I'd lead them into my "trap" (muu ha ha).  "I do totally agree that your church should not be forced to marry same sex couples if that is against their tenents.  Because we have separation of church and state in this country, right!"  Their response would be something like, "Yeah!  Exactly!"

  "But then, on that same token, why do you think your church gets to tell our city hall what to do?"

  I can't say I ever changed anyone's mind, but it surprised people and usually seemed to at least have them give more thought to their stance.

  However, nowadays, it's like it is becoming trendier and trendier to no longer even pretend that anything except Christian values matter.

  

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• charlotte989875 member

  

  May 2017

  In equally insane motives of the Trump administration the DOJ is actively pursuing a case against a woman who laughed at AG Session's claim that he had a long history of treating Americans equally. She could face a $500 fine and 6 months in prison. 
  
  https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department
  

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• OurWildKingdom member

  

  May 2017 edited May 2017

  
  
  

  charlotte989875 said:

  
  
  

  In equally insane motives of the Trump administration the DOJ is actively pursuing a case against a woman who laughed at AG Session's claim that he had a long history of treating Americans equally. She could face a $500 fine and 6 months in prison. 
  
  https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department

  
  
  
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• kimmiinthemitten member

  

  May 2017

  
  

  charlotte989875 said:

  
  

  In equally insane motives of the Trump administration the DOJ is actively pursuing a case against a woman who laughed at AG Session's claim that he had a long history of treating Americans equally. She could face a $500 fine and 6 months in prison. 
  
  https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department
  

  
  

  
  So that's how he's going to go after free speech.

  
  

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• southernbelle0915 mod

  

  May 2017

  
  

  short+sassy said:

  
  

  
  
  

  VarunaTT said:

  
  
  

  *sigh*  The burnout is real:  http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/trump_to_sign_anti_lgbt_religious_freedom_executive_order

  
  It's sickening that a wonderful idea...religious freedom...has had its meaning twisted beyond recognition to actually mean "fewer rights for everybody else".

  I'm also sickened that the idea of "separation of church and state" has just been trampled into the dirt over the last few decades.

  
  

  
  Agreed!
  
  It's all branding that panders to their base. A sort of evil genius when you think about it. Because at the same time they're branding themselves as the party of Jesus and liberty, they're branding anyone who opposes it as Christian and freedom hating. (Even if it's really intolerant vs. tolerant, respectively.)
  
  They know this would never pass the House and Senate as a bill, so now it's an executive order. Which means that whoever is President next and has to clean up President Trump's shit parade will want to reverse it. And reversing an executive order branded as "religious freedom" will further cement that Jesus/freedom voter base to the Republican party. So they win whether it sticks or not.
  
  It's just a sick strategy for power IMO. They see a large group of people who can get them elected and they dangle a carrot in their face to string them along while others suffer. 

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• kimmiinthemitten member

  

  May 2017

  Yay, your employer can choose to pay you in PTO instead of time and a half for OT hours now!
  
  http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/02/news/economy/overtime-pay-bill-passes-house/http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/02/news/economy/overtime-pay-bill-passes-house/
  
  I don't think Freedom means what Republicans think it means.

  
  

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• knottiej member

  

  May 2017

  I am looking forward to the Sally Yates testimony next week. It will be public, so that does limit some information. Comey and someone else (I think the NSC chief?) are speaking tomorrow, but that is a closed hearing.
  
  http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politics/sally-yates-michael-flynn-testimony-contradict/
  
  

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