@Kimora_Blax, please don't use text speak here. It is "you", not "u".
Um what? This is not a rule, it is your preference. Please don't present this as some directive from the boss.
I have seen this advice posted before by other people. No one else here seems to have trouble spelling the word "you". Just trying to help her.
How on earth could that be considered helpful and not classist/ageist? She obviously knows how to spell 'you'. Using shorthand is common. I use contractions, slang like 'ppl' and text speak sometimes. Doesn't make @Kimora_Blax or me in need of 'help'. You can certainly state your preference but everyone else is free to use or not use shorthand and slang as they see fit.
Exactly. I love casual weddings. A couple wants to throw a Sunday brunch or a Thursday cocktails and dessert party to save money, I'm fine with that. Sounds fun. But it's expecting your guests to go all out, extra fancy for black tie on a Friday when you know they're having to squeeze into a long gown and nail a fancy updo in a toilet cubical next to Linda from HR. If they threw a cocktail party, or even more formal party, I could've put on a simple LBD and chignon and be done easily. But if it's black tie, it's just so much more faffing.
As I said previously, it's not against etiquette but just inconvenient. I agree it's not a summons so declining is always an option, but OP asked my opinion. My opinion is I find non-Saturday black tie events inconvenient.
Off topic, this is the second time in this thread you have used the word "faff". I have never heard it before. Though I can tell from the two contexts what it means. What a fun word and I am adding it to my vocabulary!
@LondonLisa, for once I disagree with you. I have been a regular here for almost six years, and I have seen this advice given to others several times. I was a teacher. While I don't like to correct people's grammar, I find the substitution of text speak for posting to be annoying, and I am not the only one. There is nothing classist/ageist about this.
@Kimora_Blax, please don't use text speak here. It is "you", not "u".
If you can understand what I am saying, then not my problem. Your personal preference isn't my issue. I am writing on my phone so can get awkward. You aren't my teacher and I'm not looking for advice.
So I think typing "u" instead of "you" in anything other than a short text looks really lazy (because seriously. It's two more letters). And technically it's a spelling error so seeing it all over looks sloppy. I have thought this for a long time, even back when I was in high school.
However... unless there are rules on the board about chatspeak I don't think a correction is really called for.
You know how it's bad etiquette to point out someone else's bad etiquette to them? I'd think that pointing out someone's bad spelling (which still leaves their thoughts completely clear and coherent) isn't so great.
LondonLisa Thank you for the hilarious imagery about the toilet next to Linda in HR. =D
@Kimora_Blax, please don't use text speak here. It is "you", not "u".
If you can understand what I am saying, then not my problem. Your personal preference isn't my issue. I am writing on my phone so can get awkward. You aren't my teacher and I'm not looking for advice.
Fair enough. There used to be a suggestion on the website several years ago regarding this, but I guess it is gone. I know you are relatively new here, so I thought I could help. I use text speak when I text on the phone. I use standard (American) English on any other communication because I feel it makes a statement about me. I meant to help you, not to upset you. I am sorry you took it this way.
I have seen all kinds of suggestions on this board to use punctuation and good grammar. Don't think the "u" comment was much different. I too appreciate proper spelling and grammar. So, much like I would side-eye a cash bar I will also side-eye text-speak.
Then side-eye away, not sure why I should care? You have used poor grammar. You didn't start the sentence 'Don't think the "u" comment..." with an I. Also the sentence "So, much like...." isn't grammatically correct so u should probably check your own speech before critiquing anyone else. I side-eye people who criticise others while making the same mistake......more than once.
This forum is full of half-sentences and similiar 'errors' so why don't all the grammarians get over themselves and start messaging literally everyone on the forum.
I have seen all kinds of suggestions on this board to use punctuation and good grammar. Don't think the "u" comment was much different. I too appreciate proper spelling and grammar. So, much like I would side-eye a cash bar I will also side-eye text-speak.
There is a fundamental difference between walls of text littered with non-sequiturs/confusing syntax and one use of the shorthand 'u' suggesting the poster needed an education.
I understand people appreciate correct grammar, but if we are getting to the point where we are correcting everyone's writing, it is going to get tedious. I use British spelling and style. Do I need to switch to American? Which house style are we using: AP, Oxford, or Chicago? Can we discuss the policy regarding Oxford commas? (Actually, as I would love this).
This post above is missing parenthetical clause commas for emphasis around 'too' according to AP, Chicago, and Oxford writing style guides. I just think if we are getting down to correcting small errors and slang, it starts invalidating people's posts. I agree with Scribe that I prefer full sentences. However, if I started correcting her grammar (when it is perfectly intelligible although contains minor errors), it seems a tad petty and hijacks a whole thread.
I think we should leave the corrections to when the post is unreadable or unintelligible and let occasional usage of shorthand, such as 'u' or 'ppl', slide.
Also, death to people who don't use the Oxford Comma!
I have seen all kinds of suggestions on this board to use punctuation and good grammar. Don't think the "u" comment was much different. I too appreciate proper spelling and grammar. So, much like I would side-eye a cash bar I will also side-eye text-speak.
There is a fundamental difference between walls of text littered with non-sequiturs/confusing syntax and one use of the shorthand 'u' suggesting the poster needed an education.
I understand people appreciate correct grammar, but if we are getting to the point where we are correcting everyone's writing, it is going to get tedious. I use British spelling and style. Do I need to switch to American? Which house style are we using: AP, Oxford, or Chicago? Can we discuss the policy regarding Oxford commas? (Actually, as I would love this).
This post above is missing parenthetical clause commas for emphasis around 'too' according to AP, Chicago, and Oxford writing style guides. I just think if we are getting down to correcting small errors and slang, it starts invalidating people's posts. I agree with Scribe that I prefer full sentences. However, if I started correcting her grammar (when it is perfectly intelligible although contains minor errors), it seems a tad petty and hijacks a whole thread.
I think we should leave the corrections to when the post is unreadable or unintelligible and let occasional usage of shorthand, such as 'u' or 'ppl', slide.
Also, death to people who don't use the Oxford Comma!
I have seen all kinds of suggestions on this board to use punctuation and good grammar. Don't think the "u" comment was much different. I too appreciate proper spelling and grammar. So, much like I would side-eye a cash bar I will also side-eye text-speak.
There is a fundamental difference between walls of text littered with non-sequiturs/confusing syntax and one use of the shorthand 'u' suggesting the poster needed an education.
I understand people appreciate correct grammar, but if we are getting to the point where we are correcting everyone's writing, it is going to get tedious. I use British spelling and style. Do I need to switch to American? Which house style are we using: AP, Oxford, or Chicago? Can we discuss the policy regarding Oxford commas? (Actually, as I would love this).
This post above is missing parenthetical clause commas for emphasis around 'too' according to AP, Chicago, and Oxford writing style guides. I just think if we are getting down to correcting small errors and slang, it starts invalidating people's posts. I agree with Scribe that I prefer full sentences. However, if I started correcting her grammar (when it is perfectly intelligible although contains minor errors), it seems a tad petty and hijacks a whole thread.
I think we should leave the corrections to when the post is unreadable or unintelligible and let occasional usage of shorthand, such as 'u' or 'ppl', slide.
Also, death to people who don't use the Oxford Comma!
Preach.
I third that. Long Live the Oxford Comma!
Edited because the pollen is affecting my brain cells.
I have no problem with weddings held on weekdays, Fridays or Sundays. I held my wedding on a weekday and while I had many people who were not M-F people, I had several that were. All groups commented that it was nice to have their whole weekend free and not 'tied' down by a wedding that would be most of the afternoon/evening and ruin the ability to go away. The majority of the people I know (my Grandfather included) go out regularly on a weekday. Our wedding was just ceremony and dinner and started after the majority of the M-F people would have been done work. We held it downtown where those people work and our guests found that very convenient.
I have changed in the bathroom of my ER department into fancy dresses more than I can count but get that it is not everyone's preference. I don't see anything wrong with black tie any night of the week.
I have seen all kinds of suggestions on this board to use punctuation and good grammar. Don't think the "u" comment was much different. I too appreciate proper spelling and grammar. So, much like I would side-eye a cash bar I will also side-eye text-speak.
I would side-eye the cash bar because it costs me money. That and the casual use of the word "u" in a forum could not be more different in my mind.
Re: Can a black tie wedding be on a day other than Saturday?
How on earth could that be considered helpful and not classist/ageist? She obviously knows how to spell 'you'. Using shorthand is common. I use contractions, slang like 'ppl' and text speak sometimes. Doesn't make @Kimora_Blax or me in need of 'help'. You can certainly state your preference but everyone else is free to use or not use shorthand and slang as they see fit.
Off topic, this is the second time in this thread you have used the word "faff". I have never heard it before. Though I can tell from the two contexts what it means. What a fun word and I am adding it to my vocabulary!
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If you can understand what I am saying, then not my problem. Your personal preference isn't my issue. I am writing on my phone so can get awkward. You aren't my teacher and I'm not looking for advice.
I have thought this for a long time, even back when I was in high school.
However... unless there are rules on the board about chatspeak I don't think a correction is really called for.
You know how it's bad etiquette to point out someone else's bad etiquette to them? I'd think that pointing out someone's bad spelling (which still leaves their thoughts completely clear and coherent) isn't so great.
LondonLisa
Thank you for the hilarious imagery about the toilet next to Linda in HR. =D
Fair enough. There used to be a suggestion on the website several years ago regarding this, but I guess it is gone. I know you are relatively new here, so I thought I could help. I use text speak when I text on the phone. I use standard (American) English on any other communication because I feel it makes a statement about me.
I meant to help you, not to upset you. I am sorry you took it this way.
Then side-eye away, not sure why I should care? You have used poor grammar. You didn't start the sentence 'Don't think the "u" comment..." with an I. Also the sentence "So, much like...." isn't grammatically correct so u should probably check your own speech before critiquing anyone else. I side-eye people who criticise others while making the same mistake......more than once.
This forum is full of half-sentences and similiar 'errors' so why don't all the grammarians get over themselves and start messaging literally everyone on the forum.
There is a fundamental difference between walls of text littered with non-sequiturs/confusing syntax and one use of the shorthand 'u' suggesting the poster needed an education.
I understand people appreciate correct grammar, but if we are getting to the point where we are correcting everyone's writing, it is going to get tedious. I use British spelling and style. Do I need to switch to American? Which house style are we using: AP, Oxford, or Chicago? Can we discuss the policy regarding Oxford commas? (Actually, as I would love this).
This post above is missing parenthetical clause commas for emphasis around 'too' according to AP, Chicago, and Oxford writing style guides. I just think if we are getting down to correcting small errors and slang, it starts invalidating people's posts. I agree with Scribe that I prefer full sentences. However, if I started correcting her grammar (when it is perfectly intelligible although contains minor errors), it seems a tad petty and hijacks a whole thread.
I think we should leave the corrections to when the post is unreadable or unintelligible and let occasional usage of shorthand, such as 'u' or 'ppl', slide.
Also, death to people who don't use the Oxford Comma!
Preach.
I third that. Long Live the Oxford Comma!
Edited because the pollen is affecting my brain cells.
I have no problem with weddings held on weekdays, Fridays or Sundays. I held my wedding on a weekday and while I had many people who were not M-F people, I had several that were. All groups commented that it was nice to have their whole weekend free and not 'tied' down by a wedding that would be most of the afternoon/evening and ruin the ability to go away. The majority of the people I know (my Grandfather included) go out regularly on a weekday. Our wedding was just ceremony and dinner and started after the majority of the M-F people would have been done work. We held it downtown where those people work and our guests found that very convenient.
I have changed in the bathroom of my ER department into fancy dresses more than I can count but get that it is not everyone's preference. I don't see anything wrong with black tie any night of the week.
I would side-eye the cash bar because it costs me money. That and the casual use of the word "u" in a forum could not be more different in my mind.
Did you see the (relatively) recent case where the lack of Oxford comma ended up costing someone a whole lot of money?
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/16/520381718/the-oxford-comma-great-for-listing-pontificating-and-winning-court-cases