How to address invitations for "ladies only" bridal shower?

Re: How to address invitations for "ladies only" bridal shower?

• banana468 member

  

  July 2017

  I'm somewhat light on HOW the guest of honor opens the gifts.   I only care that they're opened at the event and by the guest of honor.   If there's a full-scale opening part or she opens each gift as she greets each guest, I don't care.

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• [Deleted User] member

  

  July 2017 edited July 2017

  If you want to throw a woman only event, then do it. 
  
  If you want to ask what sex a newborn baby is, do that too. I am genuinely interested when I ask people and I fail to see how that is offensive, since SEX not gender is between your legs, and babies don't do that much when they born anyway. So not exactly a ton of things to ask about.
  
  People can be whatever gender they want, but biological sex is pretty much set in stone. The existence of a small percentage of intersex people doesn't displace the fact that almost the whole world is made up of 2 sexes! 
  
  Rant over! If people have the choice to not identify with a gender, then people can live a heteronormative existence if they want.

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• InLoveInQueens member

  

  July 2017 edited July 2017

  
  
  

  Kimora_Blax said:

  
  
  

  If you want to throw a woman only event, then do it. 
  
  If you want to ask what sex a newborn baby is, do that too. I am genuinely interested when I ask people and I fail to see how that is offensive, since SEX not gender is between your legs, and babies don't do that much when they born anyway. So not exactly a ton of things to ask about.
  
  People can be whatever gender they want, but biological sex is pretty much set in stone. The existence of a small percentage of intersex people doesn't displace the fact that almost the whole world is made up of 2 sexes! 
  
  Rant over! If people have the choice to not identify with a gender, then people can live a heteronormative existence if they want.

  
  
  

  
  
  
  Did this rant about sex and gender come from somewhere in this thread? Did I miss something? I didn't realize we were taking about genitals and asking people about theirs/their child's. 

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• LondonLisa member

  

  July 2017

  It must be so hard to be heteronormative in this day and age. Thank god we have you to stand up against the persecution straight, cisgender people. 

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• [Deleted User] member

  

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  LondonLisa said:

  
  

  It must be so hard to be heteronormative in this day and age. Thank god we have you to stand up against the persecution straight, cisgender people. 
  
  
  
  Must be hard to maintain your faux angst. Never said cis people  were persecuted but you seem like the kind of person who doesn't listen.  Just that you acting as if doing something heteronormative is somehow wrong is ridiculous. My point is that everyone gets choices and that includes everyone, not just gender queer, gender fluid or whatever else people say about their identity.
  
   If you want to act like kids are genderless, well whatever do that. Pretty sure if you asked me as a kid about my gender, I would have said girl. But not everyone thinks like you or shoukd have to. If I have a baby born with female genitals and a xx chromosome and someone asks me about the sex, I'm going to say 'she's a girl,' not 'I don't know.' 
  
  
  

  
  

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• STARMOON44 member

  

  July 2017

  
  

  Kimora_Blax said:

  
  

  
  
  

  LondonLisa said:

  
  
  

  It must be so hard to be heteronormative in this day and age. Thank god we have you to stand up against the persecution straight, cisgender people. 
  
  
  
  Must be hard to maintain your faux angst. Never said cis people  were persecuted but you seem like the kind of person who doesn't listen.  Just that you acting as if doing something heteronormative is somehow wrong is ridiculous. My point is that everyone gets choices and that includes everyone, not just gender queer, gender fluid or whatever else people say about their identity.
  
   If you want to act like kids are genderless, well whatever do that. Pretty sure if you asked me as a kid about my gender, I would have said girl. But not everyone thinks like you or shoukd have to. If I have a baby born with female genitals and a xx chromosome and someone asks me about the sex, I'm going to say 'she's a girl,' not 'I don't know.' 
  
  
  

  
  
  

  
  

  
  Stop. Just stop. You're just randomly being transphobic. It has nothing to do with the discussion. Take your hateful rant somewhere else. 

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• [Deleted User] member

  

  July 2017 edited July 2017

  
  
  

  STARMOON44 said:

  
  
  

  
  
  
  

  Kimora_Blax said:

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  LondonLisa said:

  
  
  
  
  

  It must be so hard to be heteronormative in this day and age. Thank god we have you to stand up against the persecution straight, cisgender people. 
  
  
  
  Must be hard to maintain your faux angst. Never said cis people  were persecuted but you seem like the kind of person who doesn't listen.  Just that you acting as if doing something heteronormative is somehow wrong is ridiculous. My point is that everyone gets choices and that includes everyone, not just gender queer, gender fluid or whatever else people say about their identity.
  
   If you want to act like kids are genderless, well whatever do that. Pretty sure if you asked me as a kid about my gender, I would have said girl. But not everyone thinks like you or shoukd have to. If I have a baby born with female genitals and a xx chromosome and someone asks me about the sex, I'm going to say 'she's a girl,' not 'I don't know.' 
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  Stop. Just stop. You're just randomly being transphobic. It has nothing to do with the discussion. Take your hateful rant somewhere else. 

  
  
  

  
  
  I'm addressing earlier points made by LondonLisa. What exactly did I say that was transphobic?! People throw out words, you don't even understand what they mean. If people identify as trans, I'm not bothered.
  
  What hateful thing did I say about transpeople? I specifically said SEX is between your legs, not gender. It's not hateful to recognise that people have different biological sexes. It's no different to identifying that different races exist. That's like saying I'm racist because I identify as a black women as opposed to just a woman.

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• LondonLisa member

  

  July 2017

  Oh please- asking people to think about the statement: 'little boys will be bored to tears but little girls will enjoy cooking accessories' is not the same as saying we should all live in a world where biological sex isn't a 'thing'. 
  
  We all know you like to be contrarian to the point of purposefully obtuse. 
  
  Recognising people have biological sex is not the issue- ascribing massive sweeping generalisations based on that, is.  
  

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• STARMOON44 member

  

  July 2017

  
  

  Kimora_Blax said:

  
  

  
  
  
  

  STARMOON44 said:

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  Kimora_Blax said:

  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  LondonLisa said:

  
  
  
  
  
  

  It must be so hard to be heteronormative in this day and age. Thank god we have you to stand up against the persecution straight, cisgender people. 
  
  
  
  Must be hard to maintain your faux angst. Never said cis people  were persecuted but you seem like the kind of person who doesn't listen.  Just that you acting as if doing something heteronormative is somehow wrong is ridiculous. My point is that everyone gets choices and that includes everyone, not just gender queer, gender fluid or whatever else people say about their identity.
  
   If you want to act like kids are genderless, well whatever do that. Pretty sure if you asked me as a kid about my gender, I would have said girl. But not everyone thinks like you or shoukd have to. If I have a baby born with female genitals and a xx chromosome and someone asks me about the sex, I'm going to say 'she's a girl,' not 'I don't know.' 
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  Stop. Just stop. You're just randomly being transphobic. It has nothing to do with the discussion. Take your hateful rant somewhere else. 

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  I'm addressing earlier points made by LondonLisa. What exactly did I say that was transphobic?! People throw out words, you don't even understand what they mean. If people identify as trans, I'm not bothered.
  
  What hateful thing did I say about transpeople? I specifically said SEX is between your legs, not gender. It's not hateful to recognise that people have different biological sexes. It's no different to identifying that different races exist. That's like saying I'm racist because I identify as a black women as opposed to just a woman.

  
  

  
  100% of what you said was hateful and transphobic. Stop. 

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• [Deleted User] member

  

  July 2017 edited July 2017

  
  

  @LondonLisa
  
  And you seem to enjoy denigrating others. I've seem comments you have made that demonstrate classist notions and one ridiculous comment where you used the royal 'one' consistently as in 'one must not....'  I'm sure I can find comments where you were called out for your awful comments about the social standing of others. Which suggests you are someone who wishes they were rich, but aren't. You know what I am talking about. 
   
  Posters like you are the reason TK is becoming a ghost town with barely any new posts. 
  
  
  
  
  

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• [Deleted User] member

  

  July 2017 edited July 2017

  
  
  

  STARMOON44 said:

  
  
  

  
  
  
  

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  LondonLisa said:

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  It must be so hard to be heteronormative in this day and age. Thank god we have you to stand up against the persecution straight, cisgender people. 
  
  
  
  Must be hard to maintain your faux angst. Never said cis people  were persecuted but you seem like the kind of person who doesn't listen.  Just that you acting as if doing something heteronormative is somehow wrong is ridiculous. My point is that everyone gets choices and that includes everyone, not just gender queer, gender fluid or whatever else people say about their identity.
  
   If you want to act like kids are genderless, well whatever do that. Pretty sure if you asked me as a kid about my gender, I would have said girl. But not everyone thinks like you or shoukd have to. If I have a baby born with female genitals and a xx chromosome and someone asks me about the sex, I'm going to say 'she's a girl,' not 'I don't know.' 
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  Stop. Just stop. You're just randomly being transphobic. It has nothing to do with the discussion. Take your hateful rant somewhere else. 

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  I'm addressing earlier points made by LondonLisa. What exactly did I say that was transphobic?! People throw out words, you don't even understand what they mean. If people identify as trans, I'm not bothered.
  
  What hateful thing did I say about transpeople? I specifically said SEX is between your legs, not gender. It's not hateful to recognise that people have different biological sexes. It's no different to identifying that different races exist. That's like saying I'm racist because I identify as a black women as opposed to just a woman.

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  100% of what you said was hateful and transphobic. Stop. 
  
  
  That really established your point.

  
  
  

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• MobKaz member

  

  July 2017

  
  

  Kimora_Blax said:

  
  

  
  

  @LondonLisa
  
  And you seem to enjoy denigrating others. I've seem comments you have made that demonstrate classist notions and one ridiculous comment where you used the royal 'one' consistently as in 'one must not....'  I'm sure I can find comments where you were called out for your awful comments about the social standing of others. Which suggests you are someone who wishes they were rich, but aren't. You know what I am talking about. 
   
  Posters like you are the reason TK is becoming a ghost town with barely any new posts. 
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  

  
  I would dare say the lack of investment by the administrators and the absolute  lack of response from @KnotRiley shares a large part in creating this ghost town atmosphere. 
  

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• redoryx member

  

  July 2017

  
  

  Kimora_Blax said:

  
  

  If you want to throw a woman only event, then do it. 
  
  If you want to ask what sex a newborn baby is, do that too. I am genuinely interested when I ask people and I fail to see how that is offensive, since SEX not gender is between your legs, and babies don't do that much when they born anyway. So not exactly a ton of things to ask about.
  
  People can be whatever gender they want, but biological sex is pretty much set in stone. The existence of a small percentage of intersex people doesn't displace the fact that almost the whole world is made up of 2 sexes! 
  
  Rant over! If people have the choice to not identify with a gender, then people can live a heteronormative existence if they want.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Kimora_Blax said:

  
  

  
  
  

  LondonLisa said:

  
  
  

  It must be so hard to be heteronormative in this day and age. Thank god we have you to stand up against the persecution straight, cisgender people. 
  
  
  
  Must be hard to maintain your faux angst. Never said cis people  were persecuted but you seem like the kind of person who doesn't listen.  Just that you acting as if doing something heteronormative is somehow wrong is ridiculous. My point is that everyone gets choices and that includes everyone, not just gender queer, gender fluid or whatever else people say about their identity.
  
   If you want to act like kids are genderless, well whatever do that. Pretty sure if you asked me as a kid about my gender, I would have said girl. But not everyone thinks like you or shoukd have to. If I have a baby born with female genitals and a xx chromosome and someone asks me about the sex, I'm going to say 'she's a girl,' not 'I don't know.' 
  
  
  

  
  
  

  
  

  
  See: Transphobic. 
  
  Trans men and women do not choose their gender. Nonbinary people don't choose to not fit into your pretty little binary black and white world. Just like those who are gay, lesbian, and bi, trans people are born that way. It is not a choice they make. 
  
  Also, not all trans men and women get bottom surgery and even if they do they spend a long time with the sexual organs they were born with, so there are men with vaginas and women with penises and they/them with penises or vagnias or, as you pointed out, both if they are intersexed.  

  

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• southernbelle0915 mod

  

  July 2017

  
  

  Kimora_Blax said:
  
  @LondonLisa
  
  And you seem to enjoy denigrating others. I've seem comments you have made that demonstrate classist notions and one ridiculous comment where you used the royal 'one' consistently as in 'one must not....'  I'm sure I can find comments where you were called out for your awful comments about the social standing of others. Which suggests you are someone who wishes they were rich, but aren't. You know what I am talking about.
  
  Posters like you are the reason TK is becoming a ghost town with barely any new posts. 

  
  

  
  Are you still sore about the fruit pots? 

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