90 Day fiance

short+sassy · November 2019

Anny and Grandma Diamond (GD) were both in the wrong. At first, GD didn't seem too bad and was just trying to get to know Anny, who was being unresponsive and combative from the start. But then GD quickly jumped to all kinds of personal questions that were none of her business. WTF was that about!

I actually wasn't that surprised at how young GD looked. She's probably somewhere in her late 30s to 40s. If she had her daughter young and then if her daughter had Bryson young, that's about right for being a young grandmother. I think Robert is 35, so they probably aren't that far apart in age.

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OMG, Tania is turning out to be a real piece of work. I'm just watching her on tv and she's driving me nuts with her intense micro-managing. Geez, girl! What exactly is the "worst case scenario" that could happen to your mother's drill (nothing) and that basic $100 Home Depot upper cabinet? It falls and breaks...though pretty unlikely, with two people there to hold it.

And, while I realized she needed his help to get the shed more fixed up, she should have at least had her belongings more organized and put away. Not to mention, this is Connecticut. Sure, the weather looks fine at the time of year the show was filmed. But what about needing to use the bathroom in the middle of the night, in the winter time? Are they going to put on boots and a coat just to walk across the patio and into the main house, lol? They might find themselves going really old school and getting a chamber point, haha.

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At first I was liking Michael's ex-wife. She seemed pretty good-natured and chill that her ex was engaged to someone young enough to be his daughter. But then I was side-eying HARD when she was bringing up the parenting discussion, and coming down like a ton of bricks on Julianna...in front of the kids!!!! Ya know, she claims to be a good mom. And she probably is the majority of the time. But that was really poor parenting, right there.

kvruns · November 2019

I haven't finished the episode but I'm dying that GD's real name (maybe) is Stephanie Woodcock. Wood. Cock. For a porn star. If that is her real name she didn't need a fake stage name like Diamond Foxxx!!

I agree Robert and Anny won't make it (well ok I hope they don't....). They just seem so incompatible. And wtf on Anny not wanting the grandparents around. It is obvious they take care of Bryson a decent amount and have a good relationship with him so wouldn't you want that in the child's life??

short+sassy · November 2019

kvruns said:

I haven't finished the episode but I'm dying that GD's real name (maybe) is Stephanie Woodcock. Wood. Cock. For a porn star. If that is her real name she didn't need a fake stage name like Diamond Foxxx!!

I agree Robert and Anny won't make it (well ok I hope they don't....). They just seem so incompatible. And wtf on Anny not wanting the grandparents around. It is obvious they take care of Bryson a decent amount and have a good relationship with him so wouldn't you want that in the child's life??

Oh, @kvruns! Stop with that logic and wisdom! That would involve Anny having maturity and seeing past her own selfish interests. We can hardly expect that, lol.

CharmedPam · November 2019

And LOL @short+sassy, you’ve done a reno or two and know this stuff!

Michael’s ex wife - keeping an eye on her. How can a step mom NOT parent? I mean make big decisions for them, sure, don’t do that... but parent them ffs. If you two get married (and they likely will) Juliana WILL be the stepmom.

also Murcel and Anna - still kinda awkward to me and I think the language barrier is only half of it. He seems so sad to be in the states (dude, I get you). But when she kissed him on camera he was like “c’mon Anna - I’m trying to bee keep here!” Lol. Her friends make a good point about deep serious conversations they wont be having.

kvruns · December 2019

Seriously Robert and Anny you need to break up. And wtf on his 5 other kids or whatever from the last episode. He seems like such a good dad with taking care of Bryson but then sounds like he doesn’t have much to do with the other kids

murcel and Anna - they’re just weird. I can’t figure out I’d the “talk” they had was just for cameras or what because it was just extra awkward and especially with him laughing when she’s saying they need to communicate better.

CharmedPam · December 2019

I don’t think things are getting interpreted well with Murcel and the translater.

I love how the boxing instructor acted surprised at the 90 days. What show are you on? It’s not The Price is Right. As much as I dislike Anny, man she’s hot. speaking of, those two brothers weren’t on pillow talk this week.

Very sneaky of Juliana to use Michaels card to buy a car for her sister. He even said he’d help her out if she only asked. OMG I take $20 out of our joint account (which only he contributes to) and pay H back right away.

Sorry to say, given Sasha’s history... i agree with the pillow takers...he’s up to no good. Where’a all this money he’s making?

climbingsingle · December 2019

I'm finding this season so incredibly boring.

CharmedPam · December 2019

climbingwife said:

I'm finding this season so incredibly boring.

Laura & Mike are on this Sunday.

climbingsingle · December 2019

CharmedPam said:

climbingwife said:

I'm finding this season so incredibly boring.

Laura & Mike are on this Sunday.

Ugh. I hate them but at least it will add some excitement.

CharmedPam · December 2019

Oops I mean Angela and Micheal but yeah I hear ya

climbingsingle · December 2019

CharmedPam said:

Oops I mean Angela and Micheal but yeah I hear ya

You know what's funny? I totally knew who you meant..haha.

short+sassy · December 2019

CharmedPam said:

I don’t think things are getting interpreted well with Murcel and the translater.

I love how the boxing instructor acted surprised at the 90 days. What show are you on? It’s not The Price is Right. As much as I dislike Anny, man she’s hot. speaking of, those two brothers weren’t on pillow talk this week.

Very sneaky of Juliana to use Michaels card to buy a car for her sister. He even said he’d help her out if she only asked. OMG I take $20 out of our joint account (which only he contributes to) and pay H back right away.

Sorry to say, given Sasha’s history... i agree with the pillow takers...he’s up to no good. Where’a all this money he’s making?

Because they're hot? Or because Dean is always talking about how hot this woman or that woman is, lol? I was also wondering where they were. Dean is one of my favorite Pillow Talkers. He's always so funny and animated. Is also usually saying what I'm thinking, but in a rawer version than what I would say out loud, lol.

I find Bryson's grandparents have the oddest attitude and I'm curious if the relationship between them and Robert is different than what has been portrayed. The show made it sound like he has a good and cordial relationship with them, but the relationship is solely based on the grandson. And that Robert and the grandparents aren't themselves that close. Yet these people are acting like they have all kinds of rights to dictate and try to influence Robert's relationship. Even if they were his own parents, they'd be overstepping their bounds. But as only the maternal grandparents to his son, they are butting in to his life at levels so outrageous I just can't even.

And yeah, Robert gets the side-eye big time from me that he essentially waves his other children off as being part of the time in his life when he was young and stupid. Well, ya know what, Robert? Sometimes foolish things you do when you're young have lifetime consequences that you need to live up to. Children certainly fall into that category. I hope I'm being unfair and he is that devoted...and coughs up child support!...to his other children. But the show does not give that impression.

The boxing instructor, lol. Or any of the "extras" that are on the show with their scripted little "surprise" reactions and comments, when they hear the person(s) they are talking to are going through the K-1 Visa process/meeting their foreign SO. Because you know in the background there is a full-fledged production staff and camera crew. And that these people have already signed releases. Understandable because it's all part of the scenarios, but still funny.

Yep! I already knew Julianna buying a car was super shady and really sh***y. I figured that was either her way to make sure she got a car, jic Michael called it off if she couldn't get the visa. With Plan B being that she could then give it to someone she cared about, all on Michael's dime.

Though I was LMAO at Michael in the furniture store and his "I think there is a better use for $14K, than a couch." Michael, seriously? I've never even been in a furniture store that sells couches for more than $4K, and even those are on the tip-top end! So if you don't want to spend $14K on a couch, then don't go to some she-she (sp?) store that sells uber expensive furniture. Just like I don't go to Saks, if I'm looking to spend less than 100 bucks on a sweater. And my actual reality? I'm usually not looking to spend more than $25, lol.

CharmedPam · December 2019

short+sassy said:

Because they're hot? Or because Dean is always talking about how hot this woman or that woman is, lol?

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Oh 100% because that’s Dean’s crush. Haha. Plus they’re funny, sure! But all of them are. Funny or cute. I hate when they always order out When watching the show though because when I see someone on TV ordering food, it justifies me to do it. I was watching hallmark last Sunday and 2 movies in a ROW used Chinese takeout so I also did Chinese pick up. Like, movies only EVER do Chinese and pizza.

Yeah Micheal was in the wrong shop. And I don’t even think Juliana cared. I feel like he could have take her anywhere. Hey, he should have taken Anny there!

with Robert’s kids - I dunno. Something tells me those three other moms refuse to have their kids pictures or them on the show, so he could still be part of their life we just don’t see it? Or maybe I missed something telling me they aren’t apart of it. I tend to do other things while watching.

kvruns · December 2019

He said he doesn't see them much, i think they live in NY while he's in FL. It is possible he talks to them more than they let on with the show.

short+sassy · December 2019

kvruns said:

He said he doesn't see them much, i think they live in NY while he's in FL. It is possible he talks to them more than they let on with the show.

Thanks for the possible backstory. He has said he is originally from Brooklyn. It would make sense he doesn't see them regularly then if they live OOS. I just hope he makes the effort to see them occasionally though.

Which then begs the question. Does he not have much money because he pays a good chunk of his income to child support for the other children? Awesome, taking responsibility. Or is he broke because he's just broke, and pays diddly-squat? Sorrynotsorry, I side-eye that hard. Don't make enough at your f/t job? Then get a p/t one also. Because those children didn't ask to be born and parents...both parents...need to do what they have to, to support them.

kvruns · December 2019

I love the wedding planner quotes - $50-100K for this wedding for 30-40 people? Yikes

kvruns · December 2019

I love the chunky Russian baby. He’s soooo cute

and I love how Sasha’s mom is like yea their marriage is doomed I know my son

short+sassy · December 2019

kvruns said:

I love the wedding planner quotes - $50-100K for this wedding for 30-40 people? Yikes

And don't forget. That's the price for having it at his own HOUSE! I was LMAO hard on that. Yeeeaahhh.

Just for comparison's sake. I had my wedding with a 33-person guest list at my mom's house in the beach resort town of San Clemente, CA. Less than $5K, lol. SC is perhaps not Greenwich, CT upper income levels, but probably not too far off either.

Perhaps the only differences between what I had and what the WP mentioned is our rental costs were minimal because my mom and SD already have a good amount of outside seating. I think my mom paid a $200 donation to her church to borrow the rest of the tables/chairs needed. We were responsible for pick-up/return. We had a popular restaurant cater. But it was buffet style, so no servers. They just came and dropped the food off, though it did include trays, burners, and stands.

We also didn't rent flatware, plates, or napkins. We used disposables and paper, albeit the nicer quality versions (gasp! pearl clutch!).

short+sassy · December 2019

kvruns said:

I love the chunky Russian baby. He’s soooo cute

and I love how Sasha’s mom is like yea their marriage is doomed I know my son

OMG, yes! It doesn't matter that almost all babies, puppies, and kittens are cute. I still can't get over how adorable they are when I see them, lol.

That was interesting about the custom to sit silently for a little bit before moving out of a place. And then Loren and Alexei, in Pillow Talk, were talking about the same thing is done in Israel!

I really don't approve of Tania going out of town for 30 days while Syngin is stuck by himself in the US. That was sh***y of her. I know this program is important to her...but not so important that she hasn't put it off multiple times already.

I'm about to start fast-forwarding Angela and Michael, until he finally gets to the US, lmao. Now THAT I will find interesting. But the lead-up has spanned across multiple seasons now. So s***t or get off the pot, lol.

kvruns · December 2019

Wait she’s going to Costa Rica for 30 days? That makes no sense. I thought it was for a week or something.

climbingsingle · December 2019

I'm not caught up yet, but Tania is fucking awful. He's there for 90 days, and she's taking off for 30 of those days!?!?

CharmedPam · December 2019

Or $10,000 for their planning fees? I’ll do it for them for 1k! And a meal. Jeez! I’m starting to like Juliana though. I don’t think she’s in it for the money? But I dunno - could be acting for the cameras. I agree ex wife officiating would be off the tables for me.

I’m starting to dislike Anna’s bratty older son. Your mom’s a grown up. You’re almost a grown up (not as grown as Liam last season and doing the same thing but still). Let her live her life the way she wants to.

The breakdown from Sasha and Emily at the airport got me crying. You cry - *I* cry!

i know it was for the cameras but Micheal being asked about future kids by strangers (right? He didnt know them?) really really irks me. I get it ALL the time about babies and I’m fed up with it myself. I find myself always explaining my decision to NOT have kids - people with kids on this thread, do you ever have to explain why you did have them? Lol. Anyway, not about me, but seriously a personal question and why is adoption out for them?

Pillow talk tonight!

Eta:words

short+sassy · December 2019

CharmedPam said:

Or $10,000 for their planning fees? I’ll do it for them for 1k! And a meal. Jeez! I’m starting to like Juliana though. I don’t think she’s in it for the money? But I dunno - could be acting for the cameras. I agree ex wife officiating would be off the tables for me.

I’m starting to dislike Anna’s bratty older son. Your mom’s a grown up. You’re almost a grown up (not as grown as Liam last season and doing the same thing but still). Let her live her life the way she wants to.

The breakdown from Sasha and Emily at the airport got me crying. You cry - *I* cry!

i know it was for the cameras but Micheal being asked about future kids by strangers (right? He didnt know them?) really really irks me. I get it ALL the time about babies and I’m fed up with it myself. I find myself always explaining my decision to NOT have kids - people with kids on this thread, do you ever have to explain why you did have them? Lol. Anyway, not about me, but seriously a personal question and why is adoption out for them?

Pillow talk tonight!
Eta:words

I don't think Juliana is doing it just for the money. But it's definitely part of the attraction. I think she genuinely cares for and possibly even loves Michael. But would she be there or even given him a second glance if he didn't have money or wasn't generous with it. Nope, not a chance. At least I don't think so. It also goes both ways. I think Michael genuinely cares for her also. But a lot of that is also tied into her being the perfect trophy wife. Young, attractive, Brazilian model. And I actually don't side-eye either one of them. Perhaps it is not the purest of motives, especially in the beginning, But it wasn't the purest of motives for either one of them.

His ex-wife is such a weirdo, though. She just LOVES to stir the pot, but does it passive-aggressively. "Oh! Maybe I shouldn't have brought that up." "Oh! I hope I didn't bring up a sore subject." Girl, please! You know exactly what you are doing, so stop with the "innocent" act. I know she and Michael are not just co-parents, but still close friends. Still. Why would she even want to officiate her ex-husband's wedding? It's bizarre and awkward.

On Angela and Michael...they've already said they won't even consider adoption. It HAS to be his seed and Angela also won't even consider a surrogate with an egg, that doesn't have her genetic material. Much less an adopted child.

CharmedPam · December 2019

Nothing to add but 100% agree on the Juliana/Micheal love sitch

I hope Angela’s Micheal is used to let downs then.

CharmedPam · December 2019

I’ve only had botox to the crows feet, but I can only imagine the pain Angela went through by the lips!

kvruns · December 2019

Angela said 6 grandkids live with her ?! But none of her kids live there with her. So is she guardian of these kids? If so then who watched them when she goes to visit Michael?

kvruns · December 2019

Ok apparently one of her daughters is in jail for child molestation so that explains 4 kids. She was sentenced to 20 years but might only serve 2??

CharmedPam · December 2019

Omg @kvruns! Craziness. I never even thought of that. I thought Skyla lived with her.

I’m so glad Natalie let me know that no christians lie, betray or cheat. I wonder who participates in those christian run recovery programs then?

So I’m on Anny’s side, I really am - but she pouts and whines every time she doesn’t get her own way. Which is a lot. Also how many red flags so you have to see, Robert, to call it off?

i like Juliana. Is Tyra Banks watching so she can help a girl out?

CharmedPam · December 2019

Maybe Mike believes in aliens because he knows something.... (btw, 3 Mike/Micheals on this season!)

kvruns · December 2019

that picture is hilarious! I haven't actually finished the episode yet. For some reason it was only letting me watch on demand and I can't FF commercials so it felt like it took forever.

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