Juneteenth Friday

short+sassy · June 2020

MissKittyDanger said:

So my phone contract was up around March, but everything was shut down so I was like "cool, I'll wait it out"
Luckily stuff is opening up because since yesterday my phone has started freezing and crashing, then rebooting constantly

Tonight isn't much. We start 3pm closing for summer Fridays today with work, so that's exciting
M's hoping to finish work early to pick up BabyKitten before doing grocery pickup since it's hot a.f out BUT since he likely won't be able to, I've got her water in the fridge to take with me.

Tomorrow M is donating blood in the morning, and hopefully it won't be too long so we can hit up splash pad afterwards before nap and before heat.
Very least we are going to the phone company store to get me a new phone. I cannot deal with it anymore.

Sunday M is going kayaking by his grandfather and visiting him. I'm meeting up with my mum and depending on weather, while we walk home we may find a field and set BabyKitten free lol
She is also cutting my hair. It's a couple inches only but it'll make a huge difference. I want to eventually see a stylist, and at least now that we have short days on Fridays I can book something this summer BUT I cannot wait that long to cut my hair. Too much weight

One of the main blood donation companies where I live has been advertising that they now also test blood for COVID antibodies. Thanks for the reminder! My H and I are both avid blood donors anyway and I've been meaning to schedule us. To have a COVID antibody test thrown in is a nice perk to doing a good deed.

levioosa · June 2020

banana468 said:

levioosa said:

Hugs @VarunaTT

Of course my company isn’t doing anything for Juneteenth either. They like to tout themselves as “diverse and serving a diverse patient population,” but they haven’t actually done anything to really support that. I’m sure they’d argue that keeping us open is to serve our patients, but I know the real reason is the almighty $$$.

I tested negative. I was called into work yesterday after my test resulted and I basically just stayed in my office with the door closed and an N95 on. I had so much work to catch up on. I’m going to request a second test today and hope they give it to me since it’s now been five days post (Last) exposure, and that’s about how much time it takes to build up enough detectable viral load if you do have it. I would just feel much more comfortable getting the second test. I don’t want to put anyone at risk.

I’m skipping Father’s Day at my parent’s house. I’m bummed, but the risk outweighs the benefits. This is all dumb. I guess FBIL (FSIL’s FI) is now having some symptoms too. So we’ll see if he tests positive too. I don’t know how he wouldn’t. Obviously they live together and they haven’t been even trying to limit contact exposure to each other. After our blowout when I tore FSIL a new one, made her call off work, and schedule a test, they snuggled up on the couch and gave each other a kiss. So he’s got the rona for sure.

So FSIL got it, was actively having it and exposed you and her answer of being torn a new one was to smooch her FI?

The family gets why this was such an idiotic, categorically stupid move on her part, right? I tried to catch up through the week but is she not understanding that it's horrible to expose ANYONE to this especially someone who is WORKING IN HEALTHCARE??

I think a big part of it too is that she’s the only person she knows of who has gotten it. And all things considered she had a mild case. Fevers for a week and some pretty good fatigue, but that was the worst of it for her. Her friends are all shocked she has it “because they don’t personally know anyone who has gotten it.” Meanwhile we’re having a huge upswing of cases are work, I know people who have gotten it, patients are dying from it. Anecdotal evidence of “I got it and it wasn’t that bad” is a sonofabitch, especially with something like this that honestly could just have easily been deadly for her too.

@kerbohl I feel totally fine. Which makes me think I had it earlier this year when I got super sick for like two weeks, or that I’ve had it an have been asymptomatic. Because I spent almost four entire days with FSIL over the past two/three weeks and my immune system is not normally one of a champion. I also only have one kidney, so I’ve been low key freaking out about getting it and the potential organ damage I could have. My kidney already lives a strained life and it can’t take an acute kidney injury like an otherwise healthy person.

levioosa · June 2020

I’m so so sorry @MyNameIsNot. There are no words. All of the hugs.

cupcait927 · June 2020

I'm so so sorry @MyNameIsNot

short+sassy · June 2020

levioosa said:

banana468 said:

levioosa said:

Hugs @VarunaTT

Of course my company isn’t doing anything for Juneteenth either. They like to tout themselves as “diverse and serving a diverse patient population,” but they haven’t actually done anything to really support that. I’m sure they’d argue that keeping us open is to serve our patients, but I know the real reason is the almighty $$$.

I tested negative. I was called into work yesterday after my test resulted and I basically just stayed in my office with the door closed and an N95 on. I had so much work to catch up on. I’m going to request a second test today and hope they give it to me since it’s now been five days post (Last) exposure, and that’s about how much time it takes to build up enough detectable viral load if you do have it. I would just feel much more comfortable getting the second test. I don’t want to put anyone at risk.

I’m skipping Father’s Day at my parent’s house. I’m bummed, but the risk outweighs the benefits. This is all dumb. I guess FBIL (FSIL’s FI) is now having some symptoms too. So we’ll see if he tests positive too. I don’t know how he wouldn’t. Obviously they live together and they haven’t been even trying to limit contact exposure to each other. After our blowout when I tore FSIL a new one, made her call off work, and schedule a test, they snuggled up on the couch and gave each other a kiss. So he’s got the rona for sure.

So FSIL got it, was actively having it and exposed you and her answer of being torn a new one was to smooch her FI?

The family gets why this was such an idiotic, categorically stupid move on her part, right? I tried to catch up through the week but is she not understanding that it's horrible to expose ANYONE to this especially someone who is WORKING IN HEALTHCARE??

I think a big part of it too is that she’s the only person she knows of who has gotten it. And all things considered she had a mild case. Fevers for a week and some pretty good fatigue, but that was the worst of it for her. Her friends are all shocked she has it “because they don’t personally know anyone who has gotten it.” Meanwhile we’re having a huge upswing of cases are work, I know people who have gotten it, patients are dying from it. Anecdotal evidence of “I got it and it wasn’t that bad” is a sonofabitch, especially with something like this that honestly could just have easily been deadly for her too.

@kerbohl I feel totally fine. Which makes me think I had it earlier this year when I got super sick for like two weeks, or that I’ve had it an have been asymptomatic. Because I spent almost four entire days with FSIL over the past two/three weeks and my immune system is not normally one of a champion. I also only have one kidney, so I’ve been low key freaking out about getting it and the potential organ damage I could have. My kidney already lives a strained life and it can’t take an acute kidney injury like an otherwise healthy person.

I feel like that's one of the problems with my work. I roughly figured out about 5% of the coworkers on my floor came down with COVID, though earlier in the crisis and some when we were working from home anyway. Two of them are pretty high ranking in the company. Fortunately (as far as I know), they were mild cases and I don't think anyone was hospitalized.

But I can't help but feel that's part of what gave the extra "oomph" and justification for the company, who were already uneasy about people WFH, to bring everyone back to the office the second the Stay at Home order was lifted. Because, oh look, we had a bunch of employees who caught the virus and they are fine. Obviously no one actually said that or maybe even consciously thought it. But I can't shake the feeling that because our workforce was "lucky" so far, it's not being taken as seriously as it should.

banana468 · June 2020

Yeah - DH's company president contracted it with a mild case and a second in command tested positive and was asymptomatic.

We know of others who contracted it and had mild flu-like cases however people like FIL are in the "just like the flu" category and this week he asked why the schools are still questioning how to open when it's not as severe in kids. Um....because that's not the case for all kids and the kids have adult teachers??

kerbohl · June 2020

There's also the fact that we don't know what the long term effects are. They haven't been able to do studies on that because it has only existed for 7 months. And there is also the possibility that we might have a variant of COVID that does different things to different people. Or we might have a different disease that might or might not have a link to the virus, like Encephalitis Lethargica and the Spanish Flu (full disclosure - there is research that indicates that the sleepy sickness and the Spanish Flu might have coincidentally existed over the same period and aren't related).

levioosa · June 2020

kerbohl said:

There's also the fact that we don't know what the long term effects are. They haven't been able to do studies on that because it has only existed for 7 months. And there is also the possibility that we might have a variant of COVID that does different things to different people. Or we might have a different disease that might or might not have a link to the virus, like Encephalitis Lethargica and the Spanish Flu (full disclosure - there is research that indicates that the sleepy sickness and the Spanish Flu might have coincidentally existed over the same period and aren't related).

This is one of my biggest issues with it all. I am immunocompromised so I have a lot more to fear from it than other people. But overall I’m young, I eat really healthy, and I exercise daily. I’m concerned about the future ramifications of infection, even among asymptomatic individuals. They’re finding that this is a respiratory virus that is pretty aggressive towards the cardiovascular system and it creates a whole cascade of inflammation in the body. How does that impact stroke and heart attack risk with age? Does severity of illness matter? There are so many questions and of course we don’t have answers because it’s so new.

MissKittyDanger · June 2020

@short+sassy I know they don't do it here unless you've been a confirmed case, but they're just starting that. SFIL was a presumed positive but he wants to do that.

flantastic · June 2020

I know I don't normally update with regularity, but I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry, @MyNameIsNot. Any updates?

My one remaining grandfather (estranged) has been on a vent for a while with COVID, but actually looks like he may recover despite having all the co-morbidities. Meanwhile, a good friend of my younger sister (22) died almost two weeks ago from a COVID-related blood clot. This can hit anyone. I'm not living in debilitating fear, but seriously, take your damn precautions. Your FSIL is absolutely ridiculous, @levioosa.

@ILoveBeachMusic is DS1's fear for himself and DIL, or about giving it to you? My ILs own two adjacent but separate lake houses, so we each stayed in one this weekend. While it was killer for them not to be able to snuggle the kids this weekend, we did not want to risk it on their behalf.

ILoveBeachMusic · June 2020

flantastic said:

I know I don't normally update with regularity, but I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry, @MyNameIsNot. Any updates?

My one remaining grandfather (estranged) has been on a vent for a while with COVID, but actually looks like he may recover despite having all the co-morbidities. Meanwhile, a good friend of my younger sister (22) died almost two weeks ago from a COVID-related blood clot. This can hit anyone. I'm not living in debilitating fear, but seriously, take your damn precautions. Your FSIL is absolutely ridiculous, @levioosa.

@ILoveBeachMusic is DS1's fear for himself and DIL, or about giving it to you? My ILs own two adjacent but separate lake houses, so we each stayed in one this weekend. While it was killer for them not to be able to snuggle the kids this weekend, we did not want to risk it on their behalf.

For themselves mainly. We all have been taking precautions, and they were waiting for two weeks after we returned from Chicago to make sure we didn't bring it back with us. They just are worried about the traveling between here and there.

I'm very sorry to hear about your sister's friend. Yes this can hit anyone. Good to hear your grandfather is recovering.

flantastic · June 2020

ILoveBeachMusic said:

flantastic said:

I know I don't normally update with regularity, but I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry, @MyNameIsNot. Any updates?

My one remaining grandfather (estranged) has been on a vent for a while with COVID, but actually looks like he may recover despite having all the co-morbidities. Meanwhile, a good friend of my younger sister (22) died almost two weeks ago from a COVID-related blood clot. This can hit anyone. I'm not living in debilitating fear, but seriously, take your damn precautions. Your FSIL is absolutely ridiculous, @levioosa.

@ILoveBeachMusic is DS1's fear for himself and DIL, or about giving it to you? My ILs own two adjacent but separate lake houses, so we each stayed in one this weekend. While it was killer for them not to be able to snuggle the kids this weekend, we did not want to risk it on their behalf.

For themselves mainly. We all have been taking precautions, and they were waiting for two weeks after we returned from Chicago to make sure we didn't bring it back with us. They just are worried about the traveling between here and there.

I'm very sorry to hear about your sister's friend. Yes this can hit anyone. Good to hear your grandfather is recovering.

That is difficult. The older of DH's two brothers has gotten (in his wife's words) *exceptionally* high strung over this - really just a tendency of his that's been exacerbated - and he reminds me in some ways of your DS1. Even talking to DH (with his Ph.D in molecular bio) hasn't helped him lighten up much. So a reality check from your DD about how low-risk a car trip really is (especially if they're not planning on making a ton of stops) may not help. But it also might.

MyNameIsNot · June 2020

flantastic said:

I know I don't normally update with regularity, but I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry, @MyNameIsNot. Any updates?

My one remaining grandfather (estranged) has been on a vent for a while with COVID, but actually looks like he may recover despite having all the co-morbidities. Meanwhile, a good friend of my younger sister (22) died almost two weeks ago from a COVID-related blood clot. This can hit anyone. I'm not living in debilitating fear, but seriously, take your damn precautions. Your FSIL is absolutely ridiculous, @levioosa.

@ILoveBeachMusic is DS1's fear for himself and DIL, or about giving it to you? My ILs own two adjacent but separate lake houses, so we each stayed in one this weekend. While it was killer for them not to be able to snuggle the kids this weekend, we did not want to risk it on their behalf.

Thanks Flan. I did get a bit more yesterday. I'm still not clear about any of the backstory or causation, but the doctors are certain that she doesn't have any brain activity. They're planning to pull the plug some time today. My uncle is already making funeral arrangements, so it sounds like this is a forgone conclusion.

I'm glad to hear your grandfather is recovering! That's great news, but it's also jarring to remember that even 22 year olds are not immune. This notion that only the elderly and compromised are at risk is making people way too complacent.

mrsconn23 · June 2020

I'm so sorry @MyNameIsNot

CharmedPam · June 2020

So sorry @MyNameIsNot. This is horrible news.

Today, they said on the news, (they being a doctor they bring in daily) that we’re seeing more younger people being hit BECAUSE they said in the beginning it was older/immune compromised that got it. So the older/immune compromised were taking it more seriously and some (definitely not all) didn’t think they’d get it, taking less precautions.

ILoveBeachMusic · June 2020

flantastic said:

ILoveBeachMusic said:

flantastic said:

I know I don't normally update with regularity, but I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry, @MyNameIsNot. Any updates?

My one remaining grandfather (estranged) has been on a vent for a while with COVID, but actually looks like he may recover despite having all the co-morbidities. Meanwhile, a good friend of my younger sister (22) died almost two weeks ago from a COVID-related blood clot. This can hit anyone. I'm not living in debilitating fear, but seriously, take your damn precautions. Your FSIL is absolutely ridiculous, @levioosa.

@ILoveBeachMusic is DS1's fear for himself and DIL, or about giving it to you? My ILs own two adjacent but separate lake houses, so we each stayed in one this weekend. While it was killer for them not to be able to snuggle the kids this weekend, we did not want to risk it on their behalf.

For themselves mainly. We all have been taking precautions, and they were waiting for two weeks after we returned from Chicago to make sure we didn't bring it back with us. They just are worried about the traveling between here and there.

I'm very sorry to hear about your sister's friend. Yes this can hit anyone. Good to hear your grandfather is recovering.

That is difficult. The older of DH's two brothers has gotten (in his wife's words) *exceptionally* high strung over this - really just a tendency of his that's been exacerbated - and he reminds me in some ways of your DS1. Even talking to DH (with his Ph.D in molecular bio) hasn't helped him lighten up much. So a reality check from your DD about how low-risk a car trip really is (especially if they're not planning on making a ton of stops) may not help. But it also might.

I've already suggested he talk to her. She told me that she would text him, but I don't know if she has. I have told him that it isn't good for them mentally to be so freaked out. Hopefully, they will come around.

charlotte989875 · June 2020

That really sucks @MyNameIsNot. Really sorry this is happening to your family.

Casadena · June 2020

ILoveBeachMusic said:

flantastic said:

ILoveBeachMusic said:

flantastic said:

I know I don't normally update with regularity, but I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry, @MyNameIsNot. Any updates?

My one remaining grandfather (estranged) has been on a vent for a while with COVID, but actually looks like he may recover despite having all the co-morbidities. Meanwhile, a good friend of my younger sister (22) died almost two weeks ago from a COVID-related blood clot. This can hit anyone. I'm not living in debilitating fear, but seriously, take your damn precautions. Your FSIL is absolutely ridiculous, @levioosa.

@ILoveBeachMusic is DS1's fear for himself and DIL, or about giving it to you? My ILs own two adjacent but separate lake houses, so we each stayed in one this weekend. While it was killer for them not to be able to snuggle the kids this weekend, we did not want to risk it on their behalf.

For themselves mainly. We all have been taking precautions, and they were waiting for two weeks after we returned from Chicago to make sure we didn't bring it back with us. They just are worried about the traveling between here and there.

I'm very sorry to hear about your sister's friend. Yes this can hit anyone. Good to hear your grandfather is recovering.

That is difficult. The older of DH's two brothers has gotten (in his wife's words) *exceptionally* high strung over this - really just a tendency of his that's been exacerbated - and he reminds me in some ways of your DS1. Even talking to DH (with his Ph.D in molecular bio) hasn't helped him lighten up much. So a reality check from your DD about how low-risk a car trip really is (especially if they're not planning on making a ton of stops) may not help. But it also might.

I've already suggested he talk to her. She told me that she would text him, but I don't know if she has. I have told him that it isn't good for them mentally to be so freaked out. Hopefully, they will come around.

It's ok though to be cautious and not want to go anywhere. I obviously don't know all the ins and outs of his anxiety and if it's bigger than COVID -but I can tell you for certain that my mom/MIL/sister pressuring me to go somewhere that i'm not comfortable going and telling me to essentially "lighten up, it's not that big a deal" would NOT help.

Maybe just let them make their decisions and offer support if they want to talk.

ILoveBeachMusic · June 2020

Casadena said:

ILoveBeachMusic said:

flantastic said:

ILoveBeachMusic said:

flantastic said:

I know I don't normally update with regularity, but I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry, @MyNameIsNot. Any updates?

My one remaining grandfather (estranged) has been on a vent for a while with COVID, but actually looks like he may recover despite having all the co-morbidities. Meanwhile, a good friend of my younger sister (22) died almost two weeks ago from a COVID-related blood clot. This can hit anyone. I'm not living in debilitating fear, but seriously, take your damn precautions. Your FSIL is absolutely ridiculous, @levioosa.

@ILoveBeachMusic is DS1's fear for himself and DIL, or about giving it to you? My ILs own two adjacent but separate lake houses, so we each stayed in one this weekend. While it was killer for them not to be able to snuggle the kids this weekend, we did not want to risk it on their behalf.

For themselves mainly. We all have been taking precautions, and they were waiting for two weeks after we returned from Chicago to make sure we didn't bring it back with us. They just are worried about the traveling between here and there.

I'm very sorry to hear about your sister's friend. Yes this can hit anyone. Good to hear your grandfather is recovering.

That is difficult. The older of DH's two brothers has gotten (in his wife's words) *exceptionally* high strung over this - really just a tendency of his that's been exacerbated - and he reminds me in some ways of your DS1. Even talking to DH (with his Ph.D in molecular bio) hasn't helped him lighten up much. So a reality check from your DD about how low-risk a car trip really is (especially if they're not planning on making a ton of stops) may not help. But it also might.

I've already suggested he talk to her. She told me that she would text him, but I don't know if she has. I have told him that it isn't good for them mentally to be so freaked out. Hopefully, they will come around.

It's ok though to be cautious and not want to go anywhere. I obviously don't know all the ins and outs of his anxiety and if it's bigger than COVID -but I can tell you for certain that my mom/MIL/sister pressuring me to go somewhere that i'm not comfortable going and telling me to essentially "lighten up, it's not that big a deal" would NOT help.

Maybe just let them make their decisions and offer support if they want to talk.

I said in my previous post, I'm not telling them what to do - they have to make that decision themselves. I am in no way pressuring them to come (I said that before). However, I do think he/they need to deal with the anxiety.The reason I suggested talking to his sister is because she had been working in a Covid unit since April not to put pressure on him (again I never said it was to pressure him). She can give him medical knowledge that could perhaps be reassuring. No where did I say I told them to lighten up because it's not a big deal. It is a big deal, and I am being cautious myself. However, my bubble would and do include my children/grandchildren.

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