Wedding Woes

Either leave or give him an ultimatum to get help now.

Dear Prudence,

Suddenly my hubbie is using slurs constantly and without shame as he rails against the groups that he feels threaten “society,” which seems to mean himself and other straight white men. He rants almost daily about needing to re-institute lynching and his desire to violently murder various groups of people (ethnic groups, gender identities, the homeless, etc.). If I disagree with him he flies off the handle. He often accuses me of being brainwashed or a “liberal sheep who will repeat anything the leftist media tells me to” when I try to moderate some of the more alarming things he says. Just six months ago, we were the family who had BLM and Pride flags prominently displayed outside our home, marched in the George Floyd Protests, identified as feminists, etc.! I feel like my husband was abducted by aliens and replaced with an evil clone.

I want to believe that this is just misplaced frustration, and he does have a point that he has been victimized before at work for being an outspoken cis white man … but now he sees attacks everywhere. How can I help him come back to himself? I miss my loving, caring man who believed in equality and safety for everyone! For a long time now, I’ve been making excuses that he just needs to vent, and he doesn’t really mean the things he says. But I cannot live in a home where serious slurs against Black, gay, and trans people, and other bigoted attacks pepper daily conversations. It makes my blood boil and makes me think constantly how if I met him today I would NEVER even speak to him, let alone date/marry such a bigoted individual. What should I do?

— Husband Switched

Re: Either leave or give him an ultimatum to get help now.

  • I'd seek therapy,  and a deeper mental evaluation.  Are these the only changes that he's shown?  If they aren't I'd question deeper mental issues/dementia. 

    If that's highly unlikely then seek a therapist and an attorney.  
  • You should call a lawyer and make a safe plan to leave. Sure. He might have a brain tumor. But since he flies off the handle if you mention the change it’s not safe for you to bring that up. 
  • He changed.  You didn’t.
    it’s time. 

  • You should call a lawyer and make a safe plan to leave. Sure. He might have a brain tumor. But since he flies off the handle if you mention the change it’s not safe for you to bring that up. 
    Also a good point.   
  • Considering such an abrupt change over a short period of time, it also sounds like something might be physically off in his brain chemistry.

    In a perfect world, it would be nice if the H could be evaluated by a doctor and therapist, to get to the root of what is happening.  However, the H would never agree to that because he doesn't see anything wrong.

    Even though there hasn't been physical violence yet...or at least the LW doesn't mention it...the fact that the H is expressing a desire to violently murder people, is already way past an escalating situation and I don't think the LW is safe either.  Agree with @STARMOON44 that they need to protect themselves, physically and financially, and create a safe plan to leave.
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  • I have a story on this one. Years ago when I worked in family law, we had a divorce case like this. The husband was in a bad motorcycle accident and suffered a head injury. He went from a normal, rational person to highly aggressive and paranoid. The wife stuck around while he healed from the physical injuries, but the doctors pretty much told her that the personality changes were permanent. 

    I remember her telling me that it was like losing someone to Alzheimer's or dementia, except that it was all at once instead of gradual. She was mourning her husband while divorcing the monster who'd taken over his body. It was so sad.
  • I have a story on this one. Years ago when I worked in family law, we had a divorce case like this. The husband was in a bad motorcycle accident and suffered a head injury. He went from a normal, rational person to highly aggressive and paranoid. The wife stuck around while he healed from the physical injuries, but the doctors pretty much told her that the personality changes were permanent. 

    I remember her telling me that it was like losing someone to Alzheimer's or dementia, except that it was all at once instead of gradual. She was mourning her husband while divorcing the monster who'd taken over his body. It was so sad.
    The TBI can be really rough.  It's awful and yet your safety can be compromised too. 
  • Time to leave. 
  • I know she feels like this is sudden, but I guarantee if she started snooping, she'd be able to find out how/when/why he was radicalized.  There was a really great article out not too long ago about a mother who had to deal with a radicalized son and how she as able to bring him out...however that is not the norm and it usually gets worse with time.

    I can't imagine being stuck in this situation, b/c it must hurt dreadfully, but I'd leave.  LW doesn't mention children, but I agree, LW absolutely needs a safe plan and an attorney in place, b/c he might be even more dangerous when she does leave.
  • Make a safety plan now. You don’t have to divorce him this instant, but you need to be safe. 
  • I have a story on this one. Years ago when I worked in family law, we had a divorce case like this. The husband was in a bad motorcycle accident and suffered a head injury. He went from a normal, rational person to highly aggressive and paranoid. The wife stuck around while he healed from the physical injuries, but the doctors pretty much told her that the personality changes were permanent. 

    I remember her telling me that it was like losing someone to Alzheimer's or dementia, except that it was all at once instead of gradual. She was mourning her husband while divorcing the monster who'd taken over his body. It was so sad.
    One of my training partners for sport his wife cheated on him, he got an STD, went for a drive with her away from the kids to confront her on her affair, the STD, and time for a divorce... She attempted suicide by trying to jump out the passenger side of the vehicle at freeway speed, TBI, they tried to arrest/charge him with attempted murder (claiming he reached across and opened the door when think about the physics at interstate speed), he was ultimately cleared after the State Patrol did a reconstruction.  All that just in time for her to be released from the hospital with a TBI, he was forced to take her in even though things were done-done, and needing around the clock care from the personality change...  He ultimately lost his (high) security clearance level job and completely had to rebuild his life because she'd be called in to the SO for running down the street in the buff then claim abuse (TBI symptom) while he had fully been at work for hours or tending to their kids school matters..  It was close to 10 years before he could finally get the divorce from her and another 5 after that before he really got to have a life again.  
  • MesmrEwe said:
    I have a story on this one. Years ago when I worked in family law, we had a divorce case like this. The husband was in a bad motorcycle accident and suffered a head injury. He went from a normal, rational person to highly aggressive and paranoid. The wife stuck around while he healed from the physical injuries, but the doctors pretty much told her that the personality changes were permanent. 

    I remember her telling me that it was like losing someone to Alzheimer's or dementia, except that it was all at once instead of gradual. She was mourning her husband while divorcing the monster who'd taken over his body. It was so sad.
    One of my training partners for sport his wife cheated on him, he got an STD, went for a drive with her away from the kids to confront her on her affair, the STD, and time for a divorce... She attempted suicide by trying to jump out the passenger side of the vehicle at freeway speed, TBI, they tried to arrest/charge him with attempted murder (claiming he reached across and opened the door when think about the physics at interstate speed), he was ultimately cleared after the State Patrol did a reconstruction.  All that just in time for her to be released from the hospital with a TBI, he was forced to take her in even though things were done-done, and needing around the clock care from the personality change...  He ultimately lost his (high) security clearance level job and completely had to rebuild his life because she'd be called in to the SO for running down the street in the buff then claim abuse (TBI symptom) while he had fully been at work for hours or tending to their kids school matters..  It was close to 10 years before he could finally get the divorce from her and another 5 after that before he really got to have a life again.  
    Those are both really frightening stories!

    I've known two people who were driving on the freeway and had their SO (at the time) tried to or threatened to jump out of the car.  Fortunately, the police weren't contacted in either incident, so neither of those drivers came away with anything worse then a scary story to tell.
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