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Let's talk b-parties

My MOH (from CA) is flying to NYC for my bachelorette party that she's planning with the other girls who live in NYC (I live in DC with my FI). All of the groomsmen also live in NYC, so MOH reached out to the best man to ask if they could coordinate dates so it would be easier for FI and I to come up to NYC together (especially since we have a job, and FI is in law school so funds are tight). She specified the parties would still be separate, just the same weekend perhaps. He totally blew her off, and also told her that my FI's bachelor party would be a complete surprise, and he would not tell her, me, or my FI any of the plans or timing.

Weeks later, entirely unprompted, best man IMed me to complain that the other groomsmen are being stingy regarding the bachelor party, and he's "so sick of having to worry about saving other people money." 

This is annoying on a number of levels. 1) The other groomsmen are not, for the most part, stingy; they're broke. 2) Our wedding is in CA when nearly everyone lives in NYC; it's incredibly generous that they've all agreed to attend, and I have done everything I can possibly do to keep costs down for them. 3) We know very few people here in DC, we have a dog, FI will likely have a job this summer and I have one already - neither of us can just take off on a whim leaving the other high and dry without some notice. 

Anyway, there's the background for my annoyance. 

Now the issue is that all of this information has upset my FI, but he has been reading The Knot boards over my shoulder and feels like his only option is to decline. He does not feel like he's allowed to tell his friends in any capacity what he would prefer. In fact, he told me, "Bachelor parties are IN HONOR of the groom, but they're FOR the groomsmen. I doubt any grooms ever enjoy their bachelor parties, it's not like their preferences are taken into consideration." This makes me sad. Also, the problem with declining a surprise bachelor party is that the only way you can do it would be to just refuse to attend whenever they show up. What an effing pain for everyone involved. 

When his best man reached out in a semi-sneaky way to find out his schedule over the next six months, my FI finally decided to make an attempt to set some ground rules. He sent an email very politely requesting that both my and his schedules be taken into account, and perhaps they could reconsider coordinating with my MOH so we could go up to NYC the same weekend. Best man just ignored this email, it's been about 3 weeks. 

I guess all of this has me looking for some reassurance. Is it okay to make scheduling requests regarding b-parties? Is it ok to make requests for things you DON'T want? 

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Re: Let's talk b-parties

  • I think that scheduling requests are perfectly acceptable. Considering the financial/schedule situation you and FI are in it seems quite rude that the BM is refusing to work with you. I also think it's acceptable for requests of what you dont want, especially when they will ultimately result in everyone being available for the parties.

    If FI doesn't feel comfortable with how his BM is planning his b-party then he is well within his rights to decline.
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  • Is it okay to make scheduling requests regarding b-parties?
    Yes.

     Is it ok to make requests for things you DON'T want? 
    Yes

    While the party is in honor of the groom, it's also supposed to be for the groom, too. It's for him and his friends to enjoy. 
    I'd be pissed if I was tired from work and studying for a test and all of a sudden my friend's showed up wanting to party. 
    Has any of his other groomsmen said anything to you or him about the cost or date?


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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_lets-talk-b-parties?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8447181b-6889-4a85-8cc1-dc2e33c7b0d2Post:7af7742f-05f1-43f2-8c22-2f217ae0dd9b">Re: Let's talk b-parties</a>:
    [QUOTE]Is it okay to make scheduling requests regarding b-parties? Yes.  Is it ok to make requests for things you DON'T want?  Yes While the party is in honor of the groom, it's also supposed to be for the groom, too. It's for him and his friends to enjoy.  I'd be pissed if I was tired from work and studying for a test and all of a sudden my friend's showed up wanting to party.  Has any of his other groomsmen said anything to you or him about the cost or date?
    Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]

    <div>Not to my FI, but from what the best man has told me, it seems they've been complaining to the best man about cost. My MOH also needs to book her flights soon, so it's just really absurd to me that he's unwilling to work with her on it. My FI would prefer to just go to bars with his friends, and it sounds like the best man is trying to plan some surprise Atlantic City or Vegas situation that no one wants or can afford. I don't get it. </div><div>
    </div><div>ETA: It's also really effing weird that the best man is complaining to ME about this. </div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's talk b-parties : Not to my FI, but from what the best man has told me, it seems they've been complaining to the best man about cost. My MOH also needs to book her flights soon, so it's just really absurd to me that he's unwilling to work with her on it. My FI would prefer to just go to bars with his friends, and it sounds like the best man is trying to plan some surprise Atlantic City or Vegas situation that no one wants or can afford. I don't get it.  ETA: It's also really effing weird that the best man is complaining to ME about this. 
    Posted by emeejeeayen[/QUOTE]

    <div>If the BM is complaining to you could you suggest to him that the local bar-hopping would be the best thing to do because your budgets can't really handle anything more? If he's giving you details and complaining about the other GMs then I think you're well within your rights to make suggestions.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's talk b-parties : Not to my FI, but from what the best man has told me, it seems they've been complaining to the best man about cost. My MOH also needs to book her flights soon, so it's just really absurd to me that he's unwilling to work with her on it. My FI would prefer to just go to bars with his friends, and it sounds like the best man is trying to plan some surprise Atlantic City or Vegas situation that no one wants or can afford. I don't get it.  ETA: It's also really effing weird that the best man is complaining to ME about this. 
    Posted by emeejeeayen[/QUOTE]
    It is really weird. Maybe he's hoping you can step in an deal with it. Of course, you shouldn't, but maybe that's what he's hoping.<div>
    </div><div>Okay, maybe.... maybe your fiance can call up one of the groomsmen and be, like, "Hey i sent BM a text/email about 3 weeks ago about setting a date for the back party. i haven't heard back from him. Do you have any info on the date or location?' Hopefully the groomsman will provide some info in hopes the groom will step in? I'm hoping...?</div><div>While it's not okay for the groom to plan his bach party, by all means, if he doesn't want it to be a surprise, then he deserves to at least know the date.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's talk b-parties : It is really weird. Maybe he's hoping you can step in an deal with it. Of course, you shouldn't, but maybe that's what he's hoping. Okay, maybe.... maybe your fiance can call up one of the groomsmen and be, like, "Hey i sent BM a text/email about 3 weeks ago about setting a date for the back party. i haven't heard back from him. Do you have any info on the date or location?' Hopefully the groomsman will provide some info in hopes the groom will step in? I'm hoping...? While it's not okay for the groom to plan his bach party, by all means, if he doesn't want it to be a surprise, then he deserves to at least know the date.
    Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]

    <div>So, he has a co-best man, who is much more laid back and whom he cced on the email. They're both ignoring it. All the guys have been friends with each other since kindergarten, so it's not like they don't know each other... I don't know, it's so weird.</div><div>
    </div><div>Also, I basically did respond to BM when he was complaining, and was like, "The wedding is in CA, so I understand everyone being a bit more restrictive on budget. You know FI would be happy to just go out to bars with you guys since we live in DC now and don't get to see you much..." but he just ignored me. </div><div>
    </div><div>OH and I forgot something from a few months ago! BM had IMed me to complain about one particularly broke groomsman (unprompted). Admittedly, he has a history of mooching, taking people's phones and never returning them, being a drunkard, etc, but BM said to me, "I am NOT letting anyone pay more at the bachelor party becuase 'Sam' doesn't have any money; he has to figure out a way to pay his share." I tried to gently suggest that he find out everyone's budget BEFOREHAND, but he didn't like that idea. <em>Clearly</em> that thought process is contributing to the drama now. *eye roll*</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's talk b-parties : So, he has a co-best man, who is much more laid back and whom he cced on the email. They're both ignoring it. All the guys have been friends with each other since kindergarten, so it's not like they don't know each other... I don't know, it's so weird. Also, I basically did respond to BM when he was complaining, and was like, "The wedding is in CA, so I understand everyone being a bit more restrictive on budget. You know FI would be happy to just go out to bars with you guys since we live in DC now and don't get to see you much..." but he just ignored me.  OH and I forgot something from a few months ago! BM had IMed me to complain about one particularly broke groomsman (unprompted). Admittedly, he has a history of mooching, taking people's phones and never returning them, being a drunkard, etc, but BM said to me, "I am NOT letting anyone pay more at the bachelor party becuase 'Sam' doesn't have any money; he has to figure out a way to pay his share." I tried to gently suggest that he find out everyone's budget BEFOREHAND, but he didn't like that idea. Clearly that thought process is contributing to the drama now. *eye roll*
    Posted by emeejeeayen[/QUOTE]
    oh heavens, this whole thing sounds like one big shiiitshow. <div>
    </div><div>Is there another groomsman he can contact? how many guys are on his side?</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Let's talk b-parties : oh heavens, this whole thing sounds like one big shiiitshow.  Is there another groomsman he can contact? how many guys are on his side?
    Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]

    <div>SEVEN! There are seven not including his three younger brothers. (I'm having 4 bridesmaids, so I think it's sort of funny.)</div><div>
    </div><div>His friends can't plan their way out of a paper bag. I cannot tell you how many times in the last 5 years I've spent sitting in one of their apartments ALL NIGHT because no one can decide which bar to go to. That said, you'd think someone could at least just pick a weekend. </div><div>
    </div><div>I feel like no one wants to get involved because BM has made them feel like they're obligated to just pay all this money for this party, and now no one wants to deal with it because they don't want to do it. FI feels really awkward about it. I'm trying to stay out of it, but honestly I'm a pretty nosey person by nature so it's really hard :-\ Especially when I feel like BM is trying to drag me into it. </div><div>
    </div><div>Like, I get it. You wish your friends were rich like your ivy league frat brothers were, but they're not: deal with it. </div>
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    [QUOTE]I hope this guy didn't call up the other groomsmen and tell them what the party was, and this was what it would cost them. He should have asked them what they could afford.  They've got a right to complain - and to decline to attend - if it's hurting them financially. If that weren't enough, he's demanding when your fiance should attend??? <strong>I have a nasty suspicion BM has planned a party for himself and not your Fi.</strong>   I wouldn't blame him for declining.
    Posted by RetreadBride[/QUOTE]

    <div>What's worst is that FI thinks that's how it's supposed to be.</div>
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