What happened

ErinG93 · January 2012

And Birdie, I've not once seen you act like a know-it-all.

louisvillebride21 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What happened : On that note, that is why I have been reluctant to go out in Kentucky since the smoking ban in Ohio.
Posted by MattsPenguin[/QUOTE]
Yeah, we got the ban too.

Megbo2012 · January 2012

Ugh I miss FFF every damn time. Why do I have practice at 12? When am I supposed to eat lunch? Never. It's their way of slimming me down.

It should come as no surprise to me that I don't mind smoking bans. This year, for our regional NCAA meet (xc in Maine) I stayed in a SMOKING hotel room/hallway. I have asthma. The door did not lock either (safe!) so I complained and they said they could give me another room. It was even smokier.

WHO PUTS RUNNERS IN SMOKING ROOMS FFS. Still bitter.

MyUserName1 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]Ugh I miss FFF every damn time. Why do I have practice at 12? When am I supposed to eat lunch? Never. It's their way of slimming me down. It should come as no surprise to me that I don't mind smoking bans. This year, for our regional NCAA meet (xc in Maine) I stayed in a SMOKING hotel room/hallway. I have asthma. The door did not lock either (safe!) so I complained and they said they could give me another room. It was even smokier. WHO PUTS RUNNERS IN SMOKING ROOMS FFS. Still bitter.
Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

Its worse when it's a non-smoking room and people have clearly been smoking. I don't just have a preference for non-smoking, i require it. To breathe.

mica178 · January 2012

In CA, bars and restaurants where the entire staff owns a part of the business can allow smoking. I think the goal was to protect waiters/staff from involuntary second hand smoke or something.

MattsPenguin · January 2012

According to the CDC, 21% of U.S. Americans smoke. I'm guessing that it's different proportions in different regions. But do you think that in regions where smoking is more prevalent that most restaurants and bars would chose to allow smokers? Would nonsmokers in that area make a big stink about not having places to go out? I wonder how it would all shake out. Ponder, ponder, ponder.

(anyone see my Miss South Carolina reference?)

crfische · January 2012

I LOVE smoking bans.

Megbo2012 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What happened : Its worse when it's a non-smoking room and people have clearly been smoking. I don't just have a preference for non-smoking, i require it. To breathe.
Posted by MyUserName1[/QUOTE]

<div>My hotel is paid for by the school and not up to me. My coach "didn't know" but come on. The night before our biggest meet you are going to put your athletes in a room full of smoke on sheets and pillows that smell like smoke? </div><div>
</div><div>Oh and the smoke detectors were disabled. Shouldn't that be illegal? What if there was a fire (not just smoking related) in my room?</div><div>
</div><div>I remember being asked, "smoking or non" so weird. </div>

dumdumfroggie · January 2012

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[QUOTE]Selfishly, I like smoking bans since I don't smoke. From a public health standpoint, I like smoking bans. But I get that banning smoking can been seen as a violation of personal rights.
Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]

<div>I'm with Mica on this one. I love the smoking bans for a personal and public health reason, but I do get how it's stepping on individual rights.</div><div>
</div><div>But I do love not having to strip all my clothes off and immediately shower after getting home from a bar!</div><div>
</div><div>And Eagles, I remember that as well.</div>

MattsPenguin · January 2012

Prior to all of these smoking bans, people could smoke anywhere. I'm not sure when it all changed. But if an establishment had wanted to change to fully non-smoking would they have been subjected to lawsuits?

I'm just wondering why no one was smoke free (at least in Ohio), before the laws went into effect.

raypoppins · January 2012

Probably because they'd lose a lot of business, MP. Referring to bars and restaurants anyway.

Birdie1483 · January 2012

The last time I went to Cracker Barrel at my lake house (western Kentucky) they still asked you if you wanted to sit in the smoking section or not. So weird.

amys325 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]Selfishly, I like smoking bans since I don't smoke. From a public health standpoint, I like smoking bans. <strong> But I get that banning smoking can been seen as a violation of personal rights.</strong>
Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]

I like smoking bans and I do (socially) smoke. But I can agree with the bolded.

When I go and gamble over in Indiana, I hate how I stink like smoke.

kcscejal · January 2012

I think now that there has been a smoking ban non smokers would make a big deal about it being repealed, but before then it was just always how it was. You want to go out for a drink? Inhale second hand smoke. Want dinner? You'd get asked what section you want to sit at, and pretend that you were safe from 2 tables over.

We have a good friend that owns a bowling alley. He didn't ban smoking because he didn't want to lose business to the only other bowling alley that also allowed smoking, but he wanted to. He was all for the smoking ban. He hated the way smoking made his building all gross, and how bad it was for the kids that went there, but so many of the regulars smoked. Now he has all his old business and no smoking, but I get that not everyone feels that way.

MyUserName1 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What happened : My hotel is paid for by the school and not up to me. My coach "didn't know" but come on. The night before our biggest meet you are going to put your athletes in a room full of smoke on sheets and pillows that smell like smoke? Oh and the smoke detectors were disabled. Shouldn't that be illegal? What if there was a fire (not just smoking related) in my room? I remember being asked, "smoking or non" so weird.
Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

Why not err on the side of non-smoking for athletes?

Also, shouldn't your coach be aware of medical conditions his athletes have?

MattsPenguin · January 2012

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[QUOTE]Probably because they'd lose a lot of business, MP. Referring to bars and restaurants anyway.
Posted by raypoppins[/QUOTE]

That's true. I know there was a big stink about it when West Lafayette went non-smoking. I don't think the bars are hurting for business, though.

But this makes me feel like the smoking ban was necessary then.

mica178 · January 2012

I remember pre-smoking ban days very well. Remember airplanes? How can there be a non-smoking section in a closed box with recycled air? Those 13 hour flights to Asia were killers. I can only imagine how asthmatics managed to fly in those days.

Megbo2012 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What happened : Why not err on the side of non-smoking for athletes? Also, shouldn't your coach be aware of medical conditions his athletes have?
Posted by MyUserName1[/QUOTE]

<div>Yeah, you would think. I mean I go to a MA school, and this would never happen. So I like to think he wasn't thinking. </div><div>
</div><div>The asthma thing was new as of this year. Happy Birthday!</div>

crfische · January 2012

Oh man, when Fargo went non-smoking, the bar people got UP IN ARMS, ZOMG, your business is gonna go down!!! CRY TEAR WAILING.

When in reality? People who go to the bar, still go to the bar. You can't smoke in ANY bar in Fargo, so you're NOT gonna lose people to other bars because..well...You can't smoke ANYWHERE.

And? People who used to NOT go to the bars because of the smoke, all of a sudden started going out more.

MyUserName1 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]I remember pre-smoking ban days very well. Remember airplanes? How can there be a non-smoking section in a closed box with recycled air? Those 13 hour flights to Asia were killers. I can only imagine how asthmatics managed to fly in those days.
Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]

Actually, back in those days, we were generally left out in the wilderness to die.

I'm hardy though, and was taken in by a pack of wolves.

midgetthemighty · January 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What happened : I do think it's ok for a hospital to ban smoking. There are patients who are not necessarily choosing to be in the hospital, but have to be there. Their safety shouldn't be in danger when they cannot or do not have the choice of leaving the hospital.
Posted by ErinG93[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I never understood why hospitals weren't the first place for smoking to be banned once they found out the health risks. You're a hospital!

dumdumfroggie · January 2012

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[QUOTE]Oh man, when Fargo went non-smoking, the bar people got UP IN ARMS, ZOMG, your business is gonna go down!!! CRY TEAR WAILING. When in reality? People who go to the bar, still go to the bar<strong>. You can't smoke in ANY bar in Fargo, so you're NOT gonna lose people to other bars because..well...You can't smoke ANYWHERE.</strong> And? <strong>People who used to NOT go to the bars because of the smoke, all of a sudden started going out more.</strong>
Posted by crfische[/QUOTE]

<div>Right, I think there were studies done that showed that revenue was only lost to bars/restaurants when they were located in a smoking ban but were close to bars/restaurants that weren't.</div><div>
</div><div>And the second part is true for me and a bunch of my friends.</div><div>
</div><div>
</div>

mica178 · January 2012

Because a huge percentage of nurses smoke?

I dunno. I agree that it doesn't make sense that hospitals wouldn't all ban smoking.

MattsPenguin · January 2012

Mica, you must be old. I don't remember smoking on airplanes. That sounds like an accident waiting to happen. "Let's light something on fire in an enclosed space with pressurized air!"

I do remember "Smoking or non?" at restaurants.

raypoppins · January 2012

I actually thought the town next to us was the only one that still had smoking, but I met Rach in Ft Worth a few weeks ago at a bar with smoking. So I think there's actually quite a few cities in DFW that allow it.

mica178 · January 2012

MP, I AM old. I turn 34 in less than a week. Eek.

Megbo2012 · January 2012

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[QUOTE]MP, I AM old. I turn 34 in less than a week. Eek. ;)
Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]

<div>No way! Not saying that's old or anything...I just feel like a pipsqueak. I'm surprised you didn't get me a Barbie for SS.</div><div>
</div><div>Btw I made some awesome honey oat bread the other day ;)</div>

dumdumfroggie · January 2012

I don't think you have to be all that old to remember smoking on airplanes. I don't think they completely banned it on all flights until '98 or something like that. I know it was around my senior year of HS.

I think they banned it on domestic flights in the late 80s - I remember the outrage.

J&K10910 · January 2012

Personally, I go out far more now that I don't come home reeking of cigarette smoke, or have to leave because I can't breathe. The girl huddled in the corner of the bar with her inhaler? Doesn't have to be me anymore.

crfische · January 2012

I totally remember smoking in airports/planes.

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