Sorry, fairiedust and Weesh, but the vest is a necessary accessory. If he doesn't want to wear one, why don't you just buy him a nice gray suit? It should cost about the same, give you the same look, and he won't need a vest - just a belt. He gets to keep the suit after the wedding for other occasions!
Because a nice suit would cost a lot more, and my fiance does not need a suit right now. And I went to a wedding where the groom and groomsmen wore suites and I did not like the look, plus I don't feel it is right to ask the groomsmen to buy a suit.
The bolded does not make any sense. If it is okay to ask the BMs to buy a dress then it is completely okay to ask the GMs to buy a suit. As long as both pieces stay within their set budgets then asking your wedding party to purchase their attire is completely fine.
In fairness, a decent suit is usually upwards of $500, not including a shirt and tie to go with it. My FI just bought two suits a couple of weeks ago and before tailoring it was over $1K. Without shirts, ties, shoes, etc.
Seriously? Then my H must have gotten a great deal seeing as he bought a great black suit for about $150 where he only need the sleeves and pants hemmed. But then again, H doesn't need suits for work and he wasn't about to spend an arm and a leg on a super nice suit that he only wears to weddings once in a blue moon.
It's a victimless crime but your husband will look like a doofus wearing a tux in the middle of the day. I wouldn't be offended to see the groom wearing a tux at 2pm, but I would feel the same thing I felt this week when I noticed my coworker wearing square-toed dress shoes - secondhand embarrassment.
But this isn't really an etiquette issue. It's just a serious fashion faux pas. Not saying you should give a shit about fashion, but know that a well-dressed man would not be caught dead wearing a tux before evening.
I don't look at dress shoes for men....why exactly is that a problem?
It's a victimless crime but your husband will look like a doofus wearing a tux in the middle of the day. I wouldn't be offended to see the groom wearing a tux at 2pm, but I would feel the same thing I felt this week when I noticed my coworker wearing square-toed dress shoes - secondhand embarrassment.
But this isn't really an etiquette issue. It's just a serious fashion faux pas. Not saying you should give a shit about fashion, but know that a well-dressed man would not be caught dead wearing a tux before evening.
I don't look at dress shoes for men....why exactly is that a problem?
I was wondering the same thing. Pretty sure I have seen such a thing on The Sartorialist blog. . .
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
Sorry, fairiedust and Weesh, but the vest is a necessary accessory. If he doesn't want to wear one, why don't you just buy him a nice gray suit? It should cost about the same, give you the same look, and he won't need a vest - just a belt. He gets to keep the suit after the wedding for other occasions!
Because a nice suit would cost a lot more, and my fiance does not need a suit right now. And I went to a wedding where the groom and groomsmen wore suites and I did not like the look, plus I don't feel it is right to ask the groomsmen to buy a suit.
The bolded does not make any sense. If it is okay to ask the BMs to buy a dress then it is completely okay to ask the GMs to buy a suit. As long as both pieces stay within their set budgets then asking your wedding party to purchase their attire is completely fine.
In fairness, a decent suit is usually upwards of $500, not including a shirt and tie to go with it. My FI just bought two suits a couple of weeks ago and before tailoring it was over $1K. Without shirts, ties, shoes, etc.
Seriously? Then my H must have gotten a great deal seeing as he bought a great black suit for about $150 where he only need the sleeves and pants hemmed. But then again, H doesn't need suits for work and he wasn't about to spend an arm and a leg on a super nice suit that he only wears to weddings once in a blue moon.
This is going to sound ridiculous but I do kind of roll my eyes when men wear tuxes before 6 pm. However, I've also always felt that weddings are an exception. Victimless crime.
Sorry, fairiedust and Weesh, but the vest is a necessary accessory. If he doesn't want to wear one, why don't you just buy him a nice gray suit? It should cost about the same, give you the same look, and he won't need a vest - just a belt. He gets to keep the suit after the wedding for other occasions!
Because a nice suit would cost a lot more, and my fiance does not need a suit right now. And I went to a wedding where the groom and groomsmen wore suites and I did not like the look, plus I don't feel it is right to ask the groomsmen to buy a suit.
The bolded does not make any sense. If it is okay to ask the BMs to buy a dress then it is completely okay to ask the GMs to buy a suit. As long as both pieces stay within their set budgets then asking your wedding party to purchase their attire is completely fine.
In fairness, a decent suit is usually upwards of $500, not including a shirt and tie to go with it. My FI just bought two suits a couple of weeks ago and before tailoring it was over $1K. Without shirts, ties, shoes, etc.
Seriously? Then my H must have gotten a great deal seeing as he bought a great black suit for about $150 where he only need the sleeves and pants hemmed. But then again, H doesn't need suits for work and he wasn't about to spend an arm and a leg on a super nice suit that he only wears to weddings once in a blue moon.
That is an amazingly good deal!
I think he got it at Men's Warehouse when they were having one of their huge sales/clearances. Which is the only time he will ever shop for shirts/ties/suits because he hardly wears that stuff so he doesn't want to spend a lot on it.
It's a victimless crime but your husband will look like a doofus wearing a tux in the middle of the day. I wouldn't be offended to see the groom wearing a tux at 2pm, but I would feel the same thing I felt this week when I noticed my coworker wearing square-toed dress shoes - secondhand embarrassment.
But this isn't really an etiquette issue. It's just a serious fashion faux pas. Not saying you should give a shit about fashion, but know that a well-dressed man would not be caught dead wearing a tux before evening.
I don't look at dress shoes for men....why exactly is that a problem?
I was wondering the same thing. Pretty sure I have seen such a thing on The Sartorialist blog. . .
Fashion rules are different than etiquette rules, but that is my fav formal men's look. I wish FI didn't hate morning coats ><
I wish FI would wear one too. It would match my dress, he'd look fucking hot, it would go better with the steampunk elements of our wedding, and he'd look so fucking hot.
*Swoon* I am a sucker for men in periodish clothing.
The shoes in the first picture are out of style, I believe, and make the leg line look shorter/stumpier.
FI *hates* square toed shoes because his feet are on the larger side (13.5) and he feels like he's wearing clown shoes. However, when we were shoe shopping for his sister's wedding, almost every damn pair of shoes were super-exaggeratedly pointy with the squared off tip. He looked ready to Hulksmash every shoe display we went to!
The shoes in the first picture are out of style, I believe, and make the leg line look shorter/stumpier.
*stuck in the box* My grandfather wears square toes, which I am positive means that square toe is out of fashion. This is the man who still owns and wears a powder blue tux.
The shoes in the first picture are out of style, I believe, and make the leg line look shorter/stumpier.
FI *hates* square toed shoes because his feet are on the larger side (13.5) and he feels like he's wearing clown shoes. However, when we were shoe shopping for his sister's wedding, almost every damn pair of shoes were super-exaggeratedly pointy with the squared off tip. He looked ready to Hulksmash every shoe display we went to!
H has feet about that size, which I think look odd in square toe shoes, but mostly because I think it looks like he's wearing flippers. I didn't know it was unfashionable, which is interesting.
For what it's worth, I really think morning coats look awful on anyone that isn't in very good shape. If someone has a belly or wide hips, they look really bad.
And suits can be purchased at men's wearhouse for less than $200 when they are having a sale. And I saw a beautiful charcoal suit at Jcpenny for $149 today.
Websites/blogs where our wedding has been featured:
I agree, victimless crime, thousands of couples do this. Had my husband worn a suit I would have needed to pick out a totally different dress that I did because it would have been way to formal to go with a basic suit & tie and we would have looked ackward next to each other.
The person who has not worn black shoes after Memorial Day can cast the first stone ;-p
What? This was a fashion rule too now?
No white before Memorial Day, no black after. Rinse and repeat the reverse for Labor Day :-p
White after Labor Day has long been debunked.
Depends who you ask…same as tuxes before 6pm ;-)
If it doesn't affect hosting your guests, I say who cares.
There have been scores and scores of articles in the fashion mags and blog posts by the Tim Gunns and Rachel Zoes of the world over the past few years talking about how wearing white after Labor Day is actually on trend. Whatever that is worth. But I digress!
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
The person who has not worn black shoes after Memorial Day can cast the first stone ;-p
What? This was a fashion rule too now?
No white before Memorial Day, no black after. Rinse and repeat the reverse for Labor Day :-p
White after Labor Day has long been debunked.
Depends who you ask…same as tuxes before 6pm ;-)
If it doesn't affect hosting your guests, I say who cares.
There have been scores and scores of articles in the fashion mags and blog posts by the Tim Gunns and Rachel Zoes of the world over the past few years talking about how wearing white after Labor Day is actually on trend. Whatever that is worth. But I digress!
I believe the rule is just no white shoes after Labor Day, which would make more sense. I don't know how often I see people wearing white dress shoes any time of year though.
I wouldn't mind, we're having a mid-afternoon ceremony and we're ALL out of town (our venue is in the middle, 2 hours from both families). I expect guests to show up in their evening attire already at 3pm. And I'm fine with that, since they technically don't have a place to change clothes on site anyway. It's also a garden wedding under a tent, it is automatically less formal than a black tie event. To this point, all I wish is that nobody shows up in shorts or dressed extremely casual, but I have no control over that !
The person who has not worn black shoes after Memorial Day can cast the first stone ;-p
What? This was a fashion rule too now?
No white before Memorial Day, no black after. Rinse and repeat the reverse for Labor Day :-p
White after Labor Day has long been debunked.
Depends who you ask…same as tuxes before 6pm ;-)
If it doesn't affect hosting your guests, I say who cares.
There have been scores and scores of articles in the fashion mags and blog posts by the Tim Gunns and Rachel Zoes of the world over the past few years talking about how wearing white after Labor Day is actually on trend. Whatever that is worth. But I digress!
I believe the rule is just no white shoes after Labor Day, which would make more sense. I don't know how often I see people wearing white dress shoes any time of year though.
This is why I wear purple shoes. No one has rules about purple shoes...
Re: Tux etiquette
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
I was wondering the same thing. Pretty sure I have seen such a thing on The Sartorialist blog. . .
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
Versus something like this:
The shoes in the first picture are out of style, I believe, and make the leg line look shorter/stumpier.
*Swoon* I am a sucker for men in periodish clothing.
H has feet about that size, which I think look odd in square toe shoes, but mostly because I think it looks like he's wearing flippers. I didn't know it was unfashionable, which is interesting.
And suits can be purchased at men's wearhouse for less than $200 when they are having a sale. And I saw a beautiful charcoal suit at Jcpenny for $149 today.
Websites/blogs where our wedding has been featured:
http://www.dapperq.com/2013/11/a-very-dapper-wedding/
http://www.onabicyclebuiltfortwo.com/2013/10/wedding-christina-g.html
http://4realequalityweddings.com/2014/05/16/g-christina/
I agree, victimless crime, thousands of couples do this. Had my husband worn a suit I would have needed to pick out a totally different dress that I did because it would have been way to formal to go with a basic suit & tie and we would have looked ackward next to each other.
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
There have been scores and scores of articles in the fashion mags and blog posts by the Tim Gunns and Rachel Zoes of the world over the past few years talking about how wearing white after Labor Day is actually on trend. Whatever that is worth. But I digress!
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."