Baby It's Cold Outside

Sugargirl1019

My favorite song of the season. I thought I'd share this super cute rendition by Idina Menzel and Michael Buble, with their childlike counterparts performing! It made me smile.

http://elitedaily.com/music/watch-idina-menzel-michael-buble-amazing-baby-cold-outside-duet/852057/

esstee33

Ummm, yeah, the overtly date rape-y aspect of this song is a big turnoff for me.

chibiyui

esstee33 said:

Ummm, yeah, the overtly date rape-y aspect of this song is a big turnoff for me.

Yeah, this song has always skeezed me out. Sorry.

ashley8918

esstee33 said:

Ummm, yeah, the overtly date rape-y aspect of this song is a big turnoff for me.

Word, sista.

But also, I am a big old grinch and despise ALL holiday/christmas music.

esstee33

@ashley8918 Oh, I love the SHIT out of Christmas music. I've been listening to it in the car for like two days straight now. This song, in particular, makes me want to rage, though. 

I get SO FUCKING SAD, too, because Bing Crosby was such a child abusing degenerate, and his songs are my favorites.  

beethery

I love Christmas music but this song skeeves me out.

I greatly prefer these two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga-qd5FYUjA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXQViqx6GMY

theartistformerlyknownas

Nothing beats Sarah McLachlan and Bare Naked Ladies, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen.

beethery

lolo883 said:

Nothing beats Sarah McLachlan and Bare Naked Ladies, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen.

omfg YUSSSSSS I LOVE THAT VERSION

ChristinaS85

Nothing like Nat King Cole's The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas).  His entire Christmas album is amazing.  I also like Brenda Lee and Elvis's Christmas Album as well.  

I love the old time Christmas songs.  Don't really care for the modern ones.

JCbride2015

I still love "Baby It's Cold Outside" in spite of its date rapey-ness.  But the Menzel and Buble version actually changes some of the lyrics to eliminate the creepiness-- yay!  They leave out the bits about cigarettes and drinks (it's "maybe just a soda pop more" instead) and substituted something else for, "Hey, what's in this drink?"  I love it.

ohannabelle

Damn it! It's stuck in my head! Make it stoooooooooop!

Sugargirl1019

Say, was that a wink?

Loved it. It was cute and different.

dcbride86

Dat rapey-ness aside, I love that song.  It's one of my favorite Christmas songs.  But then again, I'm Jewish

raissyrais

I actually LOVE Last Christmas by WHAM! 

esstee33

JCbride2015 said:

I still love "Baby It's Cold Outside" in spite of its date rapey-ness.  But the Menzel and Buble version actually changes some of the lyrics to eliminate the creepiness-- yay!  They leave out the bits about cigarettes and drinks (it's "maybe just a soda pop more" instead) and substituted something else for, "Hey, what's in this drink?"  I love it.

I'll have to check this out! I would like the song if not for the skeeze factor. 

arrippa

Isn't there a Lady Gaga version where she sings the man's part and Joseph Gordon-Levitt sings the female's part?

 

edited: I found it on Youtube but I don't know how to post videos.

southernbelle0915

I'm a dork I guess... I like instrumental versions of Christmas songs. I'm big on Ottmar Liebert and Itzhak Perlman.

jenna8984

southernbelle0915 said:

I'm a dork I guess... I like instrumental versions of Christmas songs. I'm big on Ottmar Liebert and Itzhak Perlman.

@southernbelle0915 download Scott D. Davis, album Winter Journey. It's instrumental and it's so fucking beautiful, I'm obsessed with it.

Simky906

Oh, I really like that version, but then I've always enjoyed that song. I never really got the date rapey-ness vibe from it though. I always thought she was implying that the drink was delicious and she wanted to know what was in it. Like when I was at a friend's place last week and asked her what she used to make her rum punch so good.

theartistformerlyknownas

Simky906 said:

Oh, I really like that version, but then I've always enjoyed that song. I never really got the date rapey-ness vibe from it though. I always thought she was implying that the drink was delicious and she wanted to know what was in it. Like when I was at a friend's place last week and asked her what she used to make her rum punch so good.

Yeah, this. I can see how it could be interpreted as date-rapey, I just personally don't. Rather than him forcing her to stay, I prefer to see it as her coyly acting like she has to leave but not wanting to. Like OK, twist my arm, guess it really IS too snowy, wink wink.

holyguacamole79

Simky906 said:

Oh, I really like that version, but then I've always enjoyed that song. I never really got the date rapey-ness vibe from it though. I always thought she was implying that the drink was delicious and she wanted to know what was in it. Like when I was at a friend's place last week and asked her what she used to make her rum punch so good.

Ditto!  

theartistformerlyknownas

southernbelle0915 said:

I'm a dork I guess... I like instrumental versions of Christmas songs. I'm big on Ottmar Liebert and Itzhak Perlman.

Trans-Siberian Orchestra and Mannheim Steamroller. All day.

esstee33

Simky906 said:

Oh, I really like that version, but then I've always enjoyed that song. I never really got the date rapey-ness vibe from it though. I always thought she was implying that the drink was delicious and she wanted to know what was in it. Like when I was at a friend's place last week and asked her what she used to make her rum punch so good.

Have you ever actually read the lyrics? It's like a date rape anthem. All she wants to do is leave, and he keeps saying shit about her being unfair to him, and pouring her more drinks, etc. etc. Here (bolded for WTF???????): 

I really can't stay - Baby it's cold outside

I've got to go away - Baby it's cold outside

This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in

So very nice - I'll hold your hands, they're just like ice

My mother will start to worry - Beautiful, what's your hurry

My father will be pacing the floor - Listen to the fireplace roar

So really I'd better scurry - Beautiful, please don't hurry

Well Maybe just a half a drink more - Put some music on while I pour

The neighbors might think - Baby, it's bad out there

Say, what's in this drink - No cabs to be had out there

I wish I knew how - Your eyes are like starlight now

To break this spell - I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell

I ought to say no, no, no, sir - Mind if I move a little closer

At least I'm gonna say that I tried - What's the sense in hurting my pride

I really can't stay - Baby don't hold out

Ahh, but it's cold outside

C'mon baby

I simply must go - Baby, it's cold outside

The answer is no - Ooh baby, it's cold outside

This welcome has been - I'm lucky that you dropped in

So nice and warm -- Look out the window at that storm

My sister will be suspicious - Man, your lips look so delicious

My brother will be there at the door - Waves upon a tropical shore

My maiden aunt's mind is vicious - Gosh your lips look delicious

Well maybe just a half a drink more - Never such a blizzard before

I've got to go home - Oh, baby, you'll freeze out there

Say, lend me your comb - It's up to your knees out there

You've really been grand - Your eyes are like starlight now

But don't you see - How can you do this thing to me

There's bound to be talk tomorrow - Making my life long sorrow

At least there will be plenty implied - If you caught pneumonia and died

I really can't stay - Get over that old out

Ahh, but it's cold outside

Baby it's cold outside

Brr its cold...

It's cold out there

Cant you stay awhile longer baby

Well... I really shouldn't... alright

Make it worth your while baby

Ahh, do that again...

Maggie0829

lolo883 said:

Simky906 said:

Oh, I really like that version, but then I've always enjoyed that song. I never really got the date rapey-ness vibe from it though. I always thought she was implying that the drink was delicious and she wanted to know what was in it. Like when I was at a friend's place last week and asked her what she used to make her rum punch so good.

Yeah, this. I can see how it could be interpreted as date-rapey, I just personally don't. Rather than him forcing her to stay, I prefer to see it as her coyly acting like she has to leave but not wanting to. Like OK, twist my arm, guess it really IS too snowy, wink wink.

This.

It is just a playful song.  Why read so much into it?

holyguacamole79

lolo883 said:

southernbelle0915 said:

I'm a dork I guess... I like instrumental versions of Christmas songs. I'm big on Ottmar Liebert and Itzhak Perlman.

Trans-Siberian Orchestra and Mannheim Steamroller. All day.

Have you seen TSO in concert?  AH-MAY-ZING.

Personally I also like faith-based Christmas songs.  MercyMe has a good Christmas album with a great reflection on Joseph.

theartistformerlyknownas

holyguacamole79 said:

lolo883 said:

southernbelle0915 said:

I'm a dork I guess... I like instrumental versions of Christmas songs. I'm big on Ottmar Liebert and Itzhak Perlman.

Trans-Siberian Orchestra and Mannheim Steamroller. All day.

Have you seen TSO in concert?  AH-MAY-ZING.

Personally I also like faith-based Christmas songs.  MercyMe has a good Christmas album with a great reflection on Joseph.

Twice!

lacqueredlover

Not really a fan of holiday music but the Leevees (which is one of the guys from Guster and another from The Zamboni's) put out a hilarious Hanukkah album about 8 years ago since other than the dreidl song, no one knew any Hanukkah songs,  with such hits like:

Gelt Melts

How Do You Spell Hanukkah

Applesauce Vs Sour Cream

The Latke Clan

lolo883 they actually toured with Barenaked Ladies on their holiday tour in 2006 and I saw them and it was hilarious!  

beethery

I'm guilt-tripping you into touching my dick merry christmaaaaaaaaas babyyyyyyyyy

I never really thought about it until last year and now I get the ookies from that song.

esstee33

If a woman says "No, I really don't think I should stay," the guy should be like "OK, that's cool." To try to persuade her to stay, ply her with drinks, try to actually guilt her into staying there AND making it completely, blatantly obvious that he wants to fuck her and she's going to make him sad if she doesn't stay so he can do so, that is NOT OK. 

I'm actually shocked that there are people in this thread that think there's nothing wrong with this song or the message in it. Although I guess in a society where we have to debate what "legitimate rape" is, I shouldn't be that surprised. 

Maggie0829

esstee33 said:

If a woman says "No, I really don't think I should stay," the guy should be like "OK, that's cool." To try to persuade her to stay, ply her with drinks, try to actually guilt her into staying there AND making it completely, blatantly obvious that he wants to fuck her and she's going to make him sad if she doesn't stay so he can do so, that is NOT OK. 

I'm actually shocked that there are people in this thread that think there's nothing wrong with this song or the message in it. Although I guess in a society where we have to debate what "legitimate rape" is, I shouldn't be that surprised. 

I guess I don't see anything wrong with it because it is a fucking song.  I don't over analyze songs in general, because they are songs.  They are just supposed to be fun things you can sing along to. If we analyzed every song out there we would be left with nothing to listen to because I am sure that any song out there could possibly offend or suggest things that people are not comfortable with.

esstee33

Maggie0829 said:

esstee33 said:

If a woman says "No, I really don't think I should stay," the guy should be like "OK, that's cool." To try to persuade her to stay, ply her with drinks, try to actually guilt her into staying there AND making it completely, blatantly obvious that he wants to fuck her and she's going to make him sad if she doesn't stay so he can do so, that is NOT OK. 

I'm actually shocked that there are people in this thread that think there's nothing wrong with this song or the message in it. Although I guess in a society where we have to debate what "legitimate rape" is, I shouldn't be that surprised. 

I guess I don't see anything wrong with it because it is a fucking song.  I don't over analyze songs in general, because they are songs.  They are just supposed to be fun things you can sing along to. If we analyzed every song out there we would be left with nothing to listen to because I am sure that any song out there could possibly offend or suggest things that people are not comfortable with.

Yeah, there's a huge, massive difference between nitpicking every single song for things that could possibly be offensive to someone on earth, and taking issue with a song that overtly, very fucking clearly talks about a date rape situation. 

Enjoy the song all you want. Nobody's stopping you. But we have a problem talking about rape, reporting rape, identifying what is and is not rape, etc., because of attitudes like this. "Oh, it's just harmless." So, what, the girl in the song should just capitulate with his desires because it's cold outside? Because he's being so charming? Because he made her a drink? Because he asked nicely? 

No means no. Always. Even in fucking Christmas songs.