Politics v. Love

monkeysip

I said we agree on most things, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

In reality, I'm very politically opinionated, and he's just not.  We agree on the essentials, I suppose, but he just doesn't have an opinion, or at least a strong opinion, on a lot of issues.  

This is why I have other friends with whom I talk politics.  H and I can talk politics to a certain extent, but not for a really long time.

LD1970

avocuddle said:

I have a coworker whose husband was born with a silver spoon and is voting for Trump... but she's a diehard Bernie supporter and I just

How does that even work?

It seems insane, but I sort of get it?  I know a lot of people who are supporting Sanders but have Trump as a second choice, or supporting Trump, with Sanders as a second choice.  Those people are just voting "anti-establishment" and don't care so much about how we get to that anti-establishment result.

monkeysip

LD1970 said:

It seems insane, but I sort of get it?  I know a lot of people who are supporting Sanders but have Trump as a second choice, or supporting Trump, with Sanders as a second choice.  Those people are just voting "anti-establishment" and don't care so much about how we get to that anti-establishment result.

This is just frightening to me.  I mean, I do totally sympathize with the frustration with Washington and the "Establishment," and I understand the outsider appeal, but to have NO regard for policy whatsoever?  


Like the interview I saw the other day with a big trump fan (like, follow him around to each rally kind of fan) who basically said she didn't know anything about trump's policies but trusted him as a successful business man.  That was enough for her.  That's scary.  

ernursej

charlotte989875 said:

ernursej said:

FI and I are on the same page but he is much more passionate about politics. We live in Canada though ... I don't think our system is really that exciting.

I don't know about, I'm a big Justin Trudeau fan girl so I find him pretty exciting. 

Justin is exciting ... breath of fresh air. I think I just find Canadian politics less stimulating as they don't really have the length and the twists that American politics do. Generally, one party is in power for a while and then the public gets tired of them and the other big party gets voted in. My FI has a lot to say on politics. I watch the big debates and that is about it.

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monkeysip said:

LD1970 said:

It seems insane, but I sort of get it?  I know a lot of people who are supporting Sanders but have Trump as a second choice, or supporting Trump, with Sanders as a second choice.  Those people are just voting "anti-establishment" and don't care so much about how we get to that anti-establishment result.

This is just frightening to me.  I mean, I do totally sympathize with the frustration with Washington and the "Establishment," and I understand the outsider appeal, but to have NO regard for policy whatsoever?  


Like the interview I saw the other day with a big trump fan (like, follow him around to each rally kind of fan) who basically said she didn't know anything about trump's policies but trusted him as a successful business man.  That was enough for her.  That's scary.  

Yeah this. And I mean, also just the fact that Sanders and Trump are just soooooo completely on the opposite ends of the spectrum socially. Do these Sanders/Trump dual supporters just have no social consciousness? I'm very confused. 

SP29

Trump scares me. There is no substance, yet people flock.

Canadian politics is probably more interesting right now/past few months than it has been for years. DH and I lived in Alberta for several years, so we follow what is going on there, and there whole Conservative vs. everyone else divide has a lot of similarities to Trump vs. The World.

I didn't vote Liberal in the federal election, but I was happy to see Trudeau win, and once he won enough seats, I was hoping for a majority.

I'm kind of glad Canada doesn't have such an intense and length process as the US. The US election campaign will go on for over a year, correct? As an outsider looking in, it seems so intense and heated.

photokitty

I'm pretty political, and very liberal. DH and I are prettymuch on the same page, no real disagreements, despite him claiming to be an independent. My exH and I agreed on nothing. During our brief marriage he even voted for the candidate that campaigned to have my job eradicated...that went over real well. Luckily, that candidate lost by a landslide and left him after 8 months.

MCmeow

avocuddle said:

monkeysip said:

LD1970 said:

It seems insane, but I sort of get it?  I know a lot of people who are supporting Sanders but have Trump as a second choice, or supporting Trump, with Sanders as a second choice.  Those people are just voting "anti-establishment" and don't care so much about how we get to that anti-establishment result.

This is just frightening to me.  I mean, I do totally sympathize with the frustration with Washington and the "Establishment," and I understand the outsider appeal, but to have NO regard for policy whatsoever?  


Like the interview I saw the other day with a big trump fan (like, follow him around to each rally kind of fan) who basically said she didn't know anything about trump's policies but trusted him as a successful business man.  That was enough for her.  That's scary.  

Yeah this. And I mean, also just the fact that Sanders and Trump are just soooooo completely on the opposite ends of the spectrum socially. Do these Sanders/Trump dual supporters just have no social consciousness? I'm very confused. 

Not sure if it's a good or bad thing but there are a lot of Sander's converts that used to support Trump only because of the anti-establishment thing. They don't care about social issues because it doesn't affect them and they have no empathy. But at least they had some sense to choose the guy that has the policy and experience to beat the establishment instead of the Orange buffoon. These people are pretty rare though because every Bernie supporter I know is in it for the social issues as well, and at every Bernie rally I've been to everyone is extremely loving and the complete opposite of what Trump supporters are like.