90-Day Fiance discussions

NBSquared2017

kvruns said:

I think  I'm agreeing with the Ricky and Ximena thing because they embraced and acted like a "real" couple vs the weirdness with Melissa. 

It was so weird. Like who thinks they should fake propose to someone? The whole thing is why people look down on the process, to begin with. I'm with you @short+sassy the more I think about it, this season does seem a little staged! 

Ro041

Omg Jessie is a total psycho!  Literally anything and everything sets him off.  You say one word while he is talking?  You tell him to cut steak at an angle?  You don't know what borough you are in?  Buckle in because he is going to flip out.  I have said this before, but he shows all the hallmark early signs of becoming physically abusive.  Of course, I only see what they are showing us, but I would nope right out of that situation if I were Darcey because, even with her issues, she doesn't strike me as potentially violent.  

short+sassy

Ro041 said:

Omg Jessie is a total psycho!  Literally anything and everything sets him off.  You say one word while he is talking?  You tell him to cut steak at an angle?  You don't know what borough you are in?  Buckle in because he is going to flip out.  I have said this before, but he shows all the hallmark early signs of becoming physically abusive.  Of course, I only see what they are showing us, but I would nope right out of that situation if I were Darcey because, even with her issues, she doesn't strike me as potentially violent.  

He really does.  Even if it never turns physical, who wants to spend their life walking on eggshells.  I'm not a Darcey fan either, but it pains me to see her in such an unhealthy relationship.

She seems like a needy person with low self-esteem.  The absolute last thing she needs is to be in a relationship with a "hot" guy who is half her age.  He just feeds into the self doubt she has about herself, instead of trying to bolster her confidence. 

climbingsingle

I didn't watch last night's episode yet. 

Jesse and Darcey - WHY are these two even together? I don't get it. They literally can't go 5 minutes without fighting. 

Why is Tarik wearing a see through shirt from the 80s? Did he brother REALLY fly all the way to the Philippines to confront Hazel? 

Paul and Karine - I can't. 

Ricky - also, I can't. 

NBSquared2017

Jessie & Darcy –She’s not my favorite person In the world, but she does not deserve to be treated that way. The way he pushed her hand away when she wanted to give him rice as horrible. I feel sorry for the daughters. He’s so passive-aggressive. “I’m a steak man, you know that, but you wanted to take that away from me” my goodness he’s so insecure. And the way he waved goodbye to them as if they did not spend the entire dinner arguing was so bizarre.  

This is the episode she admitted he’s been physical. She needs to get out of this relationship. He’s verbally, mentally and now physically abusive. I feel like he’s making her seem hysterical and she’s not. I had an ex like that who would pick and poke at me until I could not take it anymore and then when I finally reacted he would throw his hands up and act like I was the person causing all the issues. I can’t believe he got mad at her for trying his shoes on. And saying he could have died because she “threw” a shoe at him and he’s claiming assault. What a freak show.

I do have a question about the living situation: does Darcy have custody of her daughters?? I can’t see them staying in the condo with Darcy and her sister, but maybe they are. I wonder how involved the children’s father is and how he would feel seeing the way Jessie acts in front of the children. Her daughters seem well rounded and they have great intuition.

He's such a mind *uck! Break up with me! **Darcy breaks up with him** He cries and talks about what a great man he is. Huh?

Angela & Michael – Harping on the age difference seems silly. Asking a man if he can wipe your butt at 75 is a valid question, I guess…but not at dinner. She’s just got an uncouth way of speaking on things. I know he’s not necessarily in it for the right reasons, but hearing him say he does not want to talk more because he’s basically scared of her was sad. I don’t think it’s right she went through his phone and just because he follows women in IG does not mean anything.

Tarik & Hazel – I am happy she came clean about her ex. I would never leave my stuff at an exes place.  I guess I did not realize they had only met a few weeks ago. I like Dean, I think he keeps it real and I respect him for that.

Ricky & Ximena – Ricky gives me the creeps! He’s like those overbearing guys at the bar that won’t leave you alone. Looking at his little sweaty baby man hands makes my skin crawl.  I rolled my eyes so hard when he was talking about how he thought he was falling for Ximena. Also, why does this man keep sending these random women money and also, if she used the money he GAVE her for a nose job that’s her prerogative because now it’s HER money.   

Paul & Karine– he’s awfully suspicious of Karine, yet she’s not the one with a felony. He seems so insecure and if you are afraid the fighting will never stop, maybe you should have not gotten married. Her parents looked so unhappy. 

short+sassy

@NBSquared2017, I must have missed Darcy talking about his physical abuse!  Do you mind giving the recap on that?

short+sassy

Jesse and Darcy -- He is so manipulative, he drives me nuts.  She is an emotional person anyway, who he drives to outbursts, then stands back and points at her flying off the handle.  With his stoic, "cool as a cucumber" manner and tone.  I was reading the main Reddit thread about this show last night.  One of the posters on a sub-thread asked if people had ever dated a "Jesse" and then told her "Jesse" story.  The stories people told were sad, cautionary tales.  Thanks for sharing your "Jesse" story, @NBSquared.

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I'll tell my "Jesse" story.  I actually have two of them, but I'll stick to the worst one.  The relationship started out great (don't they always).  He was very intelligent.  Gave me meaningful compliments all the time.  Talked about how he felt so drawn to me, why we were so great together.  A few months in, things slowly started to change.  I noticed that, overall, he was a really negative person.  It was usually directed at the world around us, but then it started turning towards me.  His encouraging words started being interspersed with cruel barbs.

No name-calling.  No outright rude comments, not at first.  Never screamed at me.  That would have been too obvious and I would have dropped him like a hot potato.  He was too smart for that.  The cruel barbs were disguised as suggestions on things I really needed to work on about myself.  I liked him and wanted to please him!  So I tried to improve.  But nothing was ever good enough.  Then he started complaining about things I didn't even do.  For example, he was a closed off person who never wanted to talk about himself.  I would ask about this/that in his life, but learned to keep it to a minimum.  But then he accused me of being selfish and only ever talking about myself!?!

It happens so gradually.  It's hard to see when you are in it.  But I finally "woke up" one day and realized that my usual confident and perky personality had been gone for quite awhile.  He had pulled me down into his own morass of sadness, negativity, and insecurity.  I was silly enough to try and talk about this with him and figure out how to improve our relationship.  He used that as an open door to badger me about my faults and that those were the only problems in our relationship.  At one point, he broke up with me.  I braced myself for a wave of sadness.  Instead, it was mostly a wave of relief, lol.  I said something like, "I'm sorry to hear you feel that way, but it is probably for the best.  I really wish you the best and hope you find what you are looking for.  Bye, Craig."  Neither one of us ever contacted the other again.

Although he was the "worst" Jesse, he was actually the second one.  I'll give myself credit I was wise enough to recognize I'd fallen for that "type" twice.  And I needed to be on alert, in the future.  There ended up being a couple budding relationships that I bailed out of early on, because I started seeing some of the same signs.      

NBSquared2017

short+sassy said:

@NBSquared2017, I must have missed Darcy talking about his physical abuse!  Do you mind giving the recap on that?

@short+sassy

It was very brief. About the 1:05-minute marker you can hear her say, "Ow, don't do that" her voice was off camera and there was no video. 

It was the scene when she was talking about when she was trying on his shoes because her feet were cold. She was explaining what happened with the argument and she mentioned he shoved her out the door and she grabbed her shoulder like it still hurt.  

She looked terrified. 

short+sassy

continuing on with the other couples...

Angela and Michael -- That woman just gets goofier and goofier.  She is very abrasive and "tell it like it is".  But also has an open heart.  Which is fine!  It's a type.  I've know a lot of guys with that personality and they often have g/f's and wives who also do.  But that is obviously not Michael's type.  She makes the mistake of saying negative things about herself in order to fish for compliments, but then gets PO'ed when people agree and/or make suggestions to help her with the age and/or weight problem she stated.  And her displeasure often comes out as a light smack.  Not cool.  In addition, Michael wanting a baby is a HUGE item they need to consider.  There is no compromise on that.  I suspect she is too old to have much chance with in-vitro fertilization.  I think they'd find they would need to adopt and they wouldn't be approved for a baby.  It would have to be an older child.  Would he be okay with that?  Would she even want to adopt any child at her age?

Tarik and Hazel -- Ah ha!  Further proof of my "faked scenes" conspiracy theory.  Did you all notice that Tarik and Hazel wore matchy-matchy tee shirts for the Taal Volcano?  Dean was ALSO wearing a tee shirt from the Taal Volcano.  I looked it up (don't judge me! lol).  The Taal volcano is a 2.5 hour day trip from Manila.  By far, the most likely explanation is, the three of them went together and had an entire day out with each other.  And were then pretending it was only the second time Dean and Hazel met.

Ricky and Ximena -- Y'all, seriously.  Why do I have a job when, apparently, it is far more lucrative to be a hottie girl with a hard luck story, lol?  This guy was sending money to Melissa.  He knew Ximena for an online minute and sent her over $1,000?!?!  I sure wasted my youth on normal relationships, jk.  Ricky really needs to cool his jets.  He has to realize how ridiculous he looks.  Thinking he's in love with every woman who gives him two minutes of her attention.  Dude, just be real.  You're shopping for Wife #3, prefer Latinas, and any pretty one will do.  Ugh, moving on...

Paul and Karine -- Even though I don't really like either one of them, I'm a sucker for a wedding.  I liked her dress and I liked the boat reception.  I'm calling more TLC shenanigans that Karine was having doubts and delayed the ceremony by 30 minutes.  If that were true, Mama would have been right there with her, talking it out.  But Mama was in the audience.  Cracking up, though not surprised, there was a translator at the ceremony.  Someone on Reddit was making a joke that their first child should be named Translator App.  Because, once their old enough to speak in full sentences, their existence will be relaying messages between mom and dad, lol. 

climbingsingle

Ok, I watched Sunday's episode. 

The way Jesse behaved in front of Darcey's kids was horrifying. Don't fucking put them in the middle. STFU and eat, and then you can fight when they leave. 
The shoe thing - jesus christ. That's what set him off? He is scary, and the narrative he's trying to put out there about Darcey is classic abuser shit. 

Tarik & Hazel - I noticed the volcano shirts! Def suspect. 

Angela & Michael - she doesn't understand how social media works. Also, she's a smoker and over 50. To me, that seems like IVF wouldn't work.  I don't know. 

Ricky - he's such a tool. I almost can't even watch his scenes. 

short+sassy

climbingwife said:

Ok, I watched Sunday's episode. 

The way Jesse behaved in front of Darcey's kids was horrifying. Don't fucking put them in the middle. STFU and eat, and then you can fight when they leave. 
The shoe thing - jesus christ. That's what set him off? He is scary, and the narrative he's trying to put out there about Darcey is classic abuser shit. 

Tarik & Hazel - I noticed the volcano shirts! Def suspect. 

Angela & Michael - she doesn't understand how social media works. Also, she's a smoker and over 50. To me, that seems like IVF wouldn't work.  I don't know. 

Ricky - he's such a tool. I almost can't even watch his scenes. 

How did I forget to mention that!  Her attitude that it was perfectly normal and reasonable to go snooping on his phone.  Didn't even pretend to feel guilty about it.  Like there is nothing wrong with doing that, when it's actually a huge violation of his privacy.  Generally speaking, I wouldn't necessarily see anything wrong with 1K female followers.  But if all his followers were 80+% female, then I could understand a little more of her point.

There are some interesting theories going on, on Reddit.  And why Michael is not overly concerned about the "having children" subject.  Apparently, in Nigeria, the average life expectancy for a woman is 57.  They think he might be under the impression that she will be his ticket to the U.S. and then she'll die within a few years of them getting married anyway.  Or he'll "serve his time" for the 2-3 years he needs to stay married to her.  Then leave her and find a younger woman of child-bearing age.  "Coincidentally", GA has the 5th highest population of Nigerian immigrants.

climbingsingle

short+sassy said:

climbingwife said:

Ok, I watched Sunday's episode. 

The way Jesse behaved in front of Darcey's kids was horrifying. Don't fucking put them in the middle. STFU and eat, and then you can fight when they leave. 
The shoe thing - jesus christ. That's what set him off? He is scary, and the narrative he's trying to put out there about Darcey is classic abuser shit. 

Tarik & Hazel - I noticed the volcano shirts! Def suspect. 

Angela & Michael - she doesn't understand how social media works. Also, she's a smoker and over 50. To me, that seems like IVF wouldn't work.  I don't know. 

Ricky - he's such a tool. I almost can't even watch his scenes. 

How did I forget to mention that!  Her attitude that it was perfectly normal and reasonable to go snooping on his phone.  Didn't even pretend to feel guilty about it.  Like there is nothing wrong with doing that, when it's actually a huge violation of his privacy.  Generally speaking, I wouldn't necessarily see anything wrong with 1K female followers.  But if all his followers were 80+% female, then I could understand a little more of her point.

There are some interesting theories going on, on Reddit.  And why Michael is not overly concerned about the "having children" subject.  Apparently, in Nigeria, the average life expectancy for a woman is 57.  They think he might be under the impression that she will be his ticket to the U.S. and then she'll die within a few years of them getting married anyway.  Or he'll "serve his time" for the 2-3 years he needs to stay married to her.  Then leave her and find a younger woman of child-bearing age.  "Coincidentally", GA has the 5th highest population of Nigerian immigrants.

WOW! That's crazy. 

kvruns

Do we actually think Ricky was sending Melissa money? I mean at first I assumed yes but once it seemed to be just drama for the show I wonder if he actually had. 

short+sassy

kvruns said:

Do we actually think Ricky was sending Melissa money? I mean at first I assumed yes but once it seemed to be just drama for the show I wonder if he actually had. 

If the Melissa situation was only made up for the show, then he wouldn't have sent her money.  That is my guess.

I also think it would be unusual for him to be sending money to two different women at the same time.  Which, to me, is further proof that Melissa was made up.

But, is it within the realm of possibility that the Melissa connection was real?  Sure.  Is it within the realm of possibility a desperate guy like this would hedge his bets and send money to two women?  Sure.  Plus, he doesn't seem to be sweating the money.  Maybe a $1K here or there is chump change for him.

NBSquared2017

short+sassy said:

kvruns said:

Do we actually think Ricky was sending Melissa money? I mean at first I assumed yes but once it seemed to be just drama for the show I wonder if he actually had. 

If the Melissa situation was only made up for the show, then he wouldn't have sent her money.  That is my guess.

I also think it would be unusual for him to be sending money to two different women at the same time.  Which, to me, is further proof that Melissa was made up.

But, is it within the realm of possibility that the Melissa connection was real?  Sure.  Is it within the realm of possibility a desperate guy like this would hedge his bets and send money to two women?  Sure.  Plus, he doesn't seem to be sweating the money.  Maybe a $1K here or there is chump change for him.

I think he is wife shopping. I think that he went down to meet Melissa and in his mind, he thought it was a relationship, in her mind he was just some dope sending her cash. I don't know if I believe TLC set all that up, but I do think that it helped his storyline. they spent 3 episodes on if she was going to show up or not...his storyline is lame ha ha. 

short+sassy

NBSquared2017 said:

short+sassy said:

kvruns said:

Do we actually think Ricky was sending Melissa money? I mean at first I assumed yes but once it seemed to be just drama for the show I wonder if he actually had. 

If the Melissa situation was only made up for the show, then he wouldn't have sent her money.  That is my guess.

I also think it would be unusual for him to be sending money to two different women at the same time.  Which, to me, is further proof that Melissa was made up.

But, is it within the realm of possibility that the Melissa connection was real?  Sure.  Is it within the realm of possibility a desperate guy like this would hedge his bets and send money to two women?  Sure.  Plus, he doesn't seem to be sweating the money.  Maybe a $1K here or there is chump change for him.

I think he is wife shopping. I think that he went down to meet Melissa and in his mind, he thought it was a relationship, in her mind he was just some dope sending her cash. I don't know if I believe TLC set all that up, but I do think that it helped his storyline. they spent 3 episodes on if she was going to show up or not...his storyline is lame ha ha. 

If your scenario, I could just see it from Melissa's POV.  "Wait, what! Why is this guy coming down to see me?  We flirt.  I send him sexy pictures.  He sends me money.  That's our thing.  And with a camera crew?  WTF?  I need to get out of this noise." lol.

I also think if we were able to log into his Columbia Cupid account, we would find all kinds of ladies he's been chatting with .  Ximena might not have even been his "second choice"!

With all that said and the joking, I think Ximena was the main one.  But very possibly not the only "potential".  Maybe Melissa was a potential.  I don't see TLC sending a camera crew down there for a woman who "might" show up and "might" be a catfish.  They have to do some kind of diligence.  Contact with the foreign love interests.  Probably Skype interviews.  Get releases signed and day/time meetings coordinated.  So I do at least think the "catfishing angle" was most likely fabricated.

NBSquared2017

I found this on Reddit - it could double as a drinking game 

kvruns

I’m finally watching the most recent episode

cant believe Tarik went over there after just a few weeks?!? What?!? Plus he has the daughter at home right? Even worse. And I find it funny Hazel his the stuff about her ex but freaked out bc Tarik has a flight connection in a city where he had an ex. 

kvruns

I’m so tired of footballer saying “my criminal record”

and im laughing at the baby crying during the proposal lol 

short+sassy

kvruns said:

I’m finally watching the most recent episode

cant believe Tarik went over there after just a few weeks?!? What?!? Plus he has the daughter at home right? Even worse. And I find it funny Hazel his the stuff about her ex but freaked out bc Tarik has a flight connection in a city where he had an ex. 

That did seem odd to me at the time how "worried" she was about it.  It's possible she's never flown before and doesn't realize the Herculian and time consuming effort it is to try and leave the airport, go somewhere in town, and come back.  On top of having just spent the last 12+ hours flying.

Love the drinking game Bingo board!  Including a few of the common commercials on the show was extra funny.

But they should have included a box for every time Michael references how much he loves America or Trump. 

NBSquared2017

In regards to Tarik - I didn’t realize he was going there after a few months either. He has a special needs child and I wonder how Hazel will feel about that?? 

short+sassy

NBSquared2017 said:

In regards to Tarik - I didn’t realize he was going there after a few months either. He has a special needs child and I wonder how Hazel will feel about that?? 

No!  Not even a few months, a few WEEKS!

Which is why I can't even take them seriously.  I can actually understand growing a strong connection with someone, even if you've never met them IRL.  Over the course of many months.  More like a year or two.

But to have this much angst and drama.  And worrying about marriage and the future.  Over someone you met online a few weeks ago.  Is super eye-rolling for me.  You can't even know someone that fast when the relationship is "in person".

short+sassy

I went snooping to find out if Tarik and Hazel and/or Angela and Michael are still together.  No spoiler.  From the website Reality Blurb, there is no clear evidence, either way.

For Tarik and Hazel, there wasn't much social media exchanges between them since March '18.  RB did point out it's very possible they were communicating privately.  But, all of a sudden in the last couple weeks, there are now lovey-dovey public messages being exchanged.

I also found out that Angela was arrested for driving on a suspended license and not yielding to an emergency vehicle in 2015.  In addition, she appeared on the Maury Povich show in 2016.  Scottie (her daughter) was getting a paternity test for her child.

kvruns

Tarik/Hazel made me think of mail order brides. But like how does that work? The show makes it seem so hard for people to get the K-1 visa, so how does it work in the mail order bride days if they didn't meet them until they came over? Or maybe it just depends on the country of origin as far as if someone can come visit without an issue. I swear the show makes it seem like it is so hard for people to come visit which we know isn't true and is more just for the show but still. 

short+sassy

kvruns said:

Tarik/Hazel made me think of mail order brides. But like how does that work? The show makes it seem so hard for people to get the K-1 visa, so how does it work in the mail order bride days if they didn't meet them until they came over? Or maybe it just depends on the country of origin as far as if someone can come visit without an issue. I swear the show makes it seem like it is so hard for people to come visit which we know isn't true and is more just for the show but still. 

Laws certainly change over the years, but I think it's been a lot of red tape and requirements for a long time.  It's also very expensive, even if the couple doesn't hire an immigration attorney.  But I've heard the majority of people do because it's a very complicated process.

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My cousin married a man from Spain.  He did not live in the U.S. during their engagement and she moved to Spain after the wedding, so they never did the K-1 Visa.  But then she got a great job back in the U.S. and had to get a spousal visa for him.  You'd think it would be fairly easy, NBD.  They'd already been married 2-3 years at that point.  He didn't have a criminal record.  Nothing unusual for either one of them.  As straight forward as you can get. 

They did not hire an attorney.  She decided to DIY it.  It still cost them thousands.  She is an intelligent, college educated woman and was barely able to get through it all.  She said it was unbelievable how many steps and forms were involved.  And it all needed to be perfect or you went back at least one step.  She was ultimately successful, but thought about hiring an immigration attorney a few times.

Both before and after they got married (but before he had the spousal visa), he had no problems getting a travel visa to the U.S.

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For regular tourist visas, a person's country of origin actually can make a huge difference.  At least that is what I've heard.  On Reddit, they were talking about that it is SUPER liberal between the US and the UK.  Travel visas between the two countries, from either side, are automatically good for 6 months over the course of a year.  You can go over and stay for 6 months without having to do anything else.  You can go over for two months, come back for a little while, and go back over again.  Without having to get another visa.  You just can't be in the other country for more than a total of 6 months in one year's time.

BUT, as we've seen with Jon, you still need to be approved to get the visa in the first place.

On the opposite side of the coin, I read an article last year about a woman who desperately needed a kidney.  She was originally from Vietnam, but had lived in the U.S. most of her adult life.  Her sister, who lived in Vietnam, got tested at a hospital there and was a match.  They applied something like 5x for a medical emergency visa (something like that) and kept getting denied.  They only got vague answers as to why it was being denied, but it had nothing to do with the sister's past.  It was essentially that Vietnam was "problem country" for immigrants using a temporary visa to get in and then they don't leave.

I suspect the country of origin for US visas related to marriage also comes into play, but I've never heard anything either way about that.  And, as they've touched on when there have been issues, a person's background will be considered also.  Along with the sponsor's financial stability.

debbeau

Last night was a real cluster [email protected]#k. 

Jessie and Darcy just give up already and move on. How can you marry someone you can’t go one day without fighting with?

Paul and Karine that was pretty strange.

Jon and Rachel I’m not sure what to think about that one. He seems to truly care about her but the sex with married women would throw me off too.

Angela and Michael she knew about the problems before she went over there. Wearing clothing from his country was not a unreasonable request. 

Let’s see what next week brings.

kvruns

How do Jesse and Darcy start with “we broke up last night” and 5 min later talk about his next visit ?!?

edit for my running commentary as I watch:

Paul - is he wearing a bullet proof vest?  Cmon Karinne falla. Falla falla falla falla, just falla. I never want to hear that word again 

Ricky - you’re going to propose to someone you supposedly didn’t come to see and a week later now she’s the one? Uh huh. Not buying it. 

Marta - the new lady, she’s a stripper (and from a family of strippers) going to a supposedly conservative Muslim man. 

Short footballer - he can do no wrong in her eyes 

kvruns

Angela and Michael - I missed something on why she is mad about him something to do with her daughter?

debbeau

kvruns said:

Angela and Michael - I missed something on why she is mad about him something to do with her daughter?

Michael called her daughter and told her that Angela left and went to the bar to get drunk. He said she wouldn’t listen to anything he said (surprise).

short+sassy

Jesse and Darcy -- Once she called it quits, he suddenly became Mr. Nice and Romantic.  Or at least tried.  Then the commercial for the upcoming episode is he is planning another trip out to the U.S...just to break up with her.  All righty then.  Yes, a break-up should be done in person when people live within driving distance of each other.  But flying across an ocean to break up with someone.  So bizarre.  Either way, their story needs to stop taking up valuable space on 90DF, lol.

Angela and Michael -- So, the "big reveal" was another woman gave Michael a bj, early in their online relationship.  But then she was getting mad all over again because the circumstances were slightly different than what he had originally told her.  Angela, seriously, you are way too insecure and jealous for an LDR.  Just stop it and go home.  It also drives me nuts when she demands to see his phone.  As if that's normal.

Tarik and Hazel -- Hmmm, did they even have any scenes this week?  Or was it just so boring and uneventful, it didn't register in my memory, lol.

Paul and Karine -- @kvruns, yes, he is wearing a bullet proof vest, smh.  OMG he is such a weirdo.  I'm actually really confused where they are living.  I was positive, at the beginning of the season, he had rented an apartment for them in a bigger city.  But this last episode seemed like they were living all around her family, who are up the Amazon in a remote town.  I don't blame him for being mad Karine's brother ate up most of the groceries, but it sounded like Paul flew too much off the handle about it.  I also thought it was hilarious that their friend/local interpreter was repeating things differently than what the show's translation was.  It was more like he was summarizing and mellowing what the mom said, instead of translating it verbatim.

Rachel and Jon -- Rachel is sure casting a lot of stones at Jon's sexual history.  It's his history, what difference does it make that he (gasp) had casual sex with married women.  She knew he had a lot of casual sex...as has she, btw...so he probably wouldn't have cared much about his partners' marital statuses.  And the "Will we EVER be able to live together or FOREVER have to live apart" histrionics at the end was super eye rolling.  Pretending I don't know they are already married, lol...of course they will someday live together, it may just not be as fast as they would like.

Ricky and Ximena -- SMH.  He's on the wrong reality show.  He should be on Married at First Sight, instead.  Ricky has got to realize how completely ridiculous he looks.

(Gasp!!!)  I just had the best idea.  They should do a special, collaborative episode where 90DF joins with Married at First Sight.  It could be the "international" edition, lol.