Merry Christmas

ReneeJacob

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : Renee - I don't think it is.  It covers the bases and I genuinely mean for them to have a happy holiday.
Posted by Marrin713[/QUOTE]

Ya I suppose it could include Christmas and New Years, makes sense. I just think its silly that we even have to be so cautious about what/how we say Merry Christmas/Happy New Year/Happy Holidays. Maybe I'm just forgetting, but when I was a kid I don't recall it ever being given a second thought.

betrothed123

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas :<strong> Ya I suppose it could include Christmas and New Years, makes sense</strong>. I just think its silly that we even have to be so cautious about what/how we say Merry Christmas/Happy New Year/Happy Holidays. Maybe I'm just forgetting, but when I was a kid I don't recall it ever being given a second thought.
Posted by ReneeJacob[/QUOTE]

Wrong again.  Do you think before you post?. 

"Happy Holidays" includes holidays such as Christmas, New Years, Hannukah, Kwanza, and any other holiday that may be celebrated during this time of year.  It is not solely inclusive of Christian holidays and federal holidays.

K&J64

It doesn't bother me, but I celebrate Christmas. I don't think it's unreasonable for it to bother someone though. I make a point to only say "Merry Christmas" if I know the person celebrates Christmas. Otherwise I wish them "Happy Holidays", "Happy Hanukkah" when applicable (though it's over now), etc. If I don't know, it's always "Happy Holidays". I even buy two different boxes of cards I send out this time of year, one Christmas themed, one "Holiday Holidays" or "Season's Greetings" as I send cards to non-Christians too. It seems odd for me to wish someone a Merry Christmas if they don't celebrate. It feels like wishing someone a Happy Birthday when it's not their birthday.

sarah0725

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : Ya I suppose it could include Christmas and New Years, makes sense. I just think its silly that we even have to be so cautious about what/how we say Merry Christmas/Happy New Year/Happy Holidays. Maybe I'm just forgetting, but when I was a kid I don't recall it ever being given a second thought.
Posted by ReneeJacob[/QUOTE]

Yeesh, maybe you are a troll.

I think this thread proves that you don't need to be cautious - most people would take a Merry Christmas in stride even if they don't celebrate Christmas. On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with saying Happy Holidays in recognition of the fact that there are other religious holidays in December as well. Like, I dunno, Hannukah.

ReneeJacob

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : Wrong again.  Do you think before you post?.  "Happy Holidays" includes holidays such as Christmas, New Years, Hannukah, Kwanza, and any other holiday that may be celebrated during this time of year.  It is not solely inclusive of Christian holidays and federal holidays.
Posted by betrothed123[/QUOTE]

Relax. Take a deep breath. Yes I think before I post. No, I'm not going to type out every friggin holiday that may be referenced in the month of December.

jasmineh7777

Me saying "Merry Christmas" is not me saying "AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE IN JESUS!" Nor am I negating their beliefs. I'm simply acknolwedging that this is the holiday I celebrate, and I wish them well.

betrothed123

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : I made the (apparent) mistake of saying Merry Christmas to one of my friends, who was an atheist but I didn't know- I don't generally go around asking people what beliefs they have regarding religion. She went apeshit on me about how the Christians stole the holiday and that I'm celebrating at the wrong time of year. I was like "Whoa I'm an atheist too lady (was at the time, but have come back to Christianity recently). But you can have Christmas and celebration and not be Christian." Incredible overreaction on her part.
Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]
That's not cool at all.  If someone asks me why I dpn't celebrate I'll explain it to them, but even if one of my close friends, who really should know I don't celebrate, wishes me a Merry Christmas, my only response is "Thank you."

jasmineh7777

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : That's not cool at all.  If someone asks me why I dpn't celebrate I'll explain it to them, but even if one of my close friends, who really should know I don't celebrate, wishes me a Merry Christmas, my only response is "Thank you."
Posted by betrothed123[/QUOTE]

Do you not celebrate in a religious sense? Or do you not celebrate in a secular sense either?  (Sorry, personal question.)

sarah0725

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : I made the (apparent) mistake of saying Merry Christmas to one of my friends, who was an atheist but I didn't know- I don't generally go around asking people what beliefs they have regarding religion. She went apeshit on me about how the Christians stole the holiday and that I'm celebrating at the wrong time of year. I was like "Whoa I'm an atheist too lady (was at the time, but have come back to Christianity recently). But you can have Christmas and celebration and not be Christian." Incredible overreaction on her part.
Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]

That "Christians stole Christmas" bullcrap really annoys me. Every religion has adopted the beliefs of every other religion since the dawn of time. If the Christians "stole" things, they learned how to do it from the masters, considering Christianity grew up in the shadow of the Roman Empire.

Anytime somebody tries that line on me, I ask them to explain to me why there's a Temple of Isis in Pompeii.

betrothed123

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : Do you not celebrate in a religious sense? Or do you not celebrate in a secular sense either?  (Sorry, personal question.)
Posted by jasmineh7777[/QUOTE]
I don't celebrate it at all- neither religiously, nor secularly.

ricksang

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : I made the (apparent) mistake of saying Merry Christmas to one of my friends, who was an atheist but I didn't know- I don't generally go around asking people what beliefs they have regarding religion. She went apeshit on me about how the Christians stole the holiday and that I'm celebrating at the wrong time of year. I was like "Whoa I'm an atheist too lady (was at the time, but have come back to Christianity recently). But you can have Christmas and celebration and not be Christian." Incredible overreaction on her part.
Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]

Lovely friend!

jasmineh7777

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : That "Christians stole Christmas" bullcrap really annoys me. Every religion has adopted the beliefs of every other religion since the dawn of time. If the Christians "stole" things, they learned how to do it from the masters, considering Christianity grew up in the shadow of the Roman Empire. Anytime somebody tries that line on me, I ask them to explain to me why there's a Temple of Isis in Pompeii.
Posted by sarah0725[/QUOTE]

I love you. That is all.

maratea

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : That "Christians stole Christmas" bullcrap really annoys me. Every religion has adopted the beliefs of every other religion since the dawn of time. If the Christians "stole" things, they learned how to do it from the masters, considering Christianity grew up in the shadow of the Roman Empire. Anytime somebody tries that line on me, I ask them to explain to me why there's a Temple of Isis in Pompeii.
Posted by sarah0725[/QUOTE]

I wish I was still friends with that person so I could send her this.

JenGin74

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas :<strong> I made the (apparent) mistake of saying Merry Christmas to one of my friends, who was an atheist but I didn't know- I don't generally go around asking people what beliefs they have regarding religion.</strong> She went apeshit on me about how the Christians stole the holiday and that I'm celebrating at the wrong time of year. I was like "Whoa I'm an atheist too lady (was at the time, but have come back to Christianity recently). But you can have Christmas and celebration and not be Christian." Incredible overreaction on her part.
Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]

I don;t go around asking people their religion either. Sometime I say Happy Holidays and sometimes I say Merry Christmas. Whatever happens to be on my mind at the time comes out of my mouth. If someone flipped out on me for trying to be nice I would seriously tell them to go fuuck themselves.

sarah0725

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : I wish I was still friends with that person so I could send her this.
Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]

Well, now you can use it on future people. It usually works. :)

maratea

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : I don;t go around asking people their religion either. Sometime I say Happy Holidays and sometimes I say Merry Christmas. Whatever happens to be on my mind at the time comes out of my mouth. If someone flipped out on me for trying to be nice I would seriously tell them to go fuuck themselves.
Posted by JenGin74[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's part of the reason we aren't friends anymore. She was an inflammatory bitch for sure. She would rage against anyone who didn't share her beliefs. I didn't find this out until I said something she didn't like and she laid into me. Ok, psycho.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

I don't understand how anyone could be offended if they were told "Merry Christmas" with a genuine smile.

And I think people who do get bent out of shape over it need to remove the thorny stick from their ass.

ETA - Same goes for "Happy Holidays."  When people tell me "Happy Holidays" I don't assume, as a Christian (which I so am), that they're "taking the Christ out of Christmas" or "forgetting the reason for the season."  I just assume they want me to have a nice holiday season.  Frick.

JenGin74

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : Yeah, that's part of the reason we aren't friends anymore. She was an inflammatory bitch for sure. She would rage against anyone who didn't share her beliefs. I didn't find this out until I said something she didn't like and she laid into me. Ok, psycho.
Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]


She sucks and I'm glad you're not friends with her anymore.

LessThanZero

I actually like Happy Holidays better just because to me it includes Christmas (plus other religious holidays) and New Years. So I can just get it all out of the way in two words.

pirategal03

I'm not offended by "Merry Christmas", but I do get annoyed hearing it so much this time of year.  My first name is Mary.  People here don't generally pronounce "Merry" and "Mary" differently.  Imagine if everyone went around calling your name for a month.  It's annoying. 

I say "Happy Christmas" or happy whatever holdiay it happens to be that day.

cupcakesfrosting

I said Happy Holidays to a customer at work, and he turned around, walked back in, and said "You can say Merry Christmas here". I just kind of looked at him. Yes, I know what I CAN say. However, working at the mall, we have many many Muslim tenants, and I'm not going to exclude them, just because one customer may possibly celebrate Christmas.

ETA: Not to say some of them DON'T celebrate. Just as a precaution. I'd rather not cause tension, with people I have to interact with daily.

J&K10910

Happy Winter Solstice, y'all!

I can get how people would be offended at Merry Christmas if they don't celebrate.  Just because I do (and therefore wouldn't be offended, or wouldn't be offended if I was wished Happy Kwanzaa, Hannukah, etc) doesn't mean I can't see it from another's point of view.  I understand that it's usually with good intention, but I can still see how someone would get irritated or offended. 

With that said, I typically don't wish anyone anything if I don't know their beliefs or they don't wish me a "happy something" first.  Not because I'm worried about offending them, but because I wouldn't want people going around assuming my beliefs, so I don't go around assuming theirs. 

JenGin74

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[QUOTE]I said Happy Holidays to a customer at work, and he turned around, walked back in, and said "You can say Merry Christmas here". I just kind of looked at him. Yes, I know what I CAN say. However, working at the mall, we have many many Muslim tenants, and I'm not going to exclude them, just because one customer may possibly celebrate Christmas. ETA: Not to say some of them DON'T celebrate. Just as a precaution. I'd rather not cause tension, with people I have to interact with daily.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

It's kind of sad that no matter what you say you're going to be wrong in someone's eyes.

cupcakesfrosting

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : It's kind of sad that no matter what you say you're going to be wrong in someone's eyes.
Posted by JenGin74[/QUOTE]

I agree. But I'd rather include include, then exclude a majority.

But no, I would not be offended if anyone said anything to me, in regards to wishing me "Happy _____".

betrothed123

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : It's kind of sad that no matter what you say you're going to be wrong in someone's eyes.
Posted by JenGin74[/QUOTE]
I agree.  When I worked in the service industry I said "Happy Holidays" to someone, who proceeded to explain to me that it was okay to say "Merry Christmas" to them because they celebrated Christmas.  I said "Well that's all well and good, but I don't."  She took great offense and I just did not get it.  Why the hell should she care if I don't celebrate Christmas?

kd.joseph

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : It's kind of sad that no matter what you say you're going to be wrong in someone's eyes.
Posted by JenGin74[/QUOTE]

I have to agree with you there Jen. This is why after being in customer service for 25 odd years, I dont say it anymore at all. It's damned if you do, damned if you dont.

I work in a prodominately Jewish community, and it works both ways. We get calls about discrimination on both sides. And I personally am really tired of over sensitive whiny a$$es.

cupcakesfrosting

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Merry Christmas : I agree.  When I worked in the service industry I said "Happy Holidays" to someone, who proceeded to explain to me that it was okay to say "Merry Christmas" to them because they celebrated Christmas.  I said "Well that's all well and good, but I don't."  She took great offense and I just did not get it.  Why the hell should she care if I don't celebrate Christmas?
Posted by betrothed123[/QUOTE]

Yes, exactly! I do celebrate Christmas, but how would this customer know if I didn't. I wish I felt ok with lying, because I totally would have said something about how I didn't celebrate Christmas.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

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[QUOTE]I think people look for things to be insulted by these days
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]

Oh they totally do.  Which pisses me off, in America.  People are such whiny twats here.  Fuckinga's, it's a free damn country and you can celebrate or not celebrate anything you wish.  Are people that grouchy that they can't appreciate someone saying something pleasant to them without getting all up in arms just for the sake of being "HEY I DON'T CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS."

JenGin74

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[QUOTE]I think people look for things to be insulted by these days
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]


Eye to eye

jasmineh7777

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[QUOTE]I'm not offended by "Merry Christmas", but I do get annoyed hearing it so much this time of year.  My first name is Mary.  People here don't generally pronounce "Merry" and "Mary" differently.  Imagine if everyone went around calling your name for a month.  It's annoying.  I say "Happy Christmas" or happy whatever holdiay it happens to be that day.
Posted by pirategal03[/QUOTE]

Mary, Christmas!