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Re: FFF

  • dtay1986dtay1986 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:bb1f60da-a76d-4541-8ab4-939484753ec4">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : You're right. Why don't you go find my name, which class I'm in, and turn me in.
    Posted by NMac2010[/QUOTE]
    You're not getting it....I'm not saying that I would do that. But, other people would. I do think you should do your work on your own....but you cheat....so what, lots of college students do.

    I highly doubt it would be THAT hard to find out your name and what class you're  in.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:f328afb0-437c-448e-8459-fe35f50142b2">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]Tay, just curious, do you have any relation to N&M? Blood or marriage. Man, the similarities.
    Posted by NMac2010[/QUOTE]

    I was JUST thinking that.   Ha.  Great minds think alike!
  • dtay1986dtay1986 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:f328afb0-437c-448e-8459-fe35f50142b2">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]Tay, just curious, do you have any relation to N&M? Blood or marriage. Man, the similarities.
    Posted by NMac2010[/QUOTE]
    Nope :)

    I guess you don't realize how malicious people can be on the internet. Have you ever heard of the website 4chan.com? People on there do outrageous things...find where ppl live and go to their house. My point here is I don't really give a flying eff if you cheat or not. But, your professor probably does. And you never know who is reading what you post.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:f3437ac0-c552-40b1-96a1-1921d1000247">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : You're not getting it....I'm not saying that I would do that. But, other people would. I do think you should do your work on your own....but you cheat....so what, lots of college students do. I highly doubt it would be THAT hard to find out your name and what class you're  in.
    Posted by dtay1986[/QUOTE]

    Are you done? Are you trying to teach me a lesson? Because I'm done with this conversation. Move on, please.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:bb1f60da-a76d-4541-8ab4-939484753ec4">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF :  Why don't you go find my name, which class I'm in, and turn me in.  Posted by NMac2010[/QUOTE]

    Weirder things have happened.  But I do get the point.  It is a public board.  ANYONE can read these boards so we do need to be careful and I know I am completely guilty of this myself and need to stop doing it.
  • dtay1986dtay1986 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:eb14b84b-2548-4cd4-b242-b74014e245a9">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Are you done? Are you trying to teach me a lesson? Because I'm done with this conversation. Move on, please.
    Posted by NMac2010[/QUOTE]
    Stop getting so butthurt.

    Also, posting you slept with a married man, but your husband will never know. You're posting this on a public forum....it's just laughable. 
  • lesalyriclesalyric member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:09db0a57-0762-4e3f-a4ec-e7ac2a0f60f7">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Weirder things have happened.  But I do get the point.  It is a public board.  ANYONE can read these boards so we do need to be careful and I know I am completely guilty of this myself and need to stop doing it.
    Posted by shortgirltx[/QUOTE]

    This. When I became FB friends with some girls on here, I realized one of the girls is good friends with my old assistant's best friend. The same assistant I came on here and complained about and made some not so nice remarks about. I also mentioned giving her a really poor review. If that had somehow come to light while I was still with my old company, I would have been in BIG trouble.
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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:f328afb0-437c-448e-8459-fe35f50142b2">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]Tay, just curious, do you have any relation to N&M? Blood or marriage. Man, the similarities.
    Posted by NMac2010[/QUOTE]

    I swear that I have no idea who that person is and it's not me.

    I was going to weigh in on what you were saying about spark notes though. And this is not a judgment at all, I just wanted to weigh in from my experience. I don't know if you cited spark notes in your paper or not--if you did I can't imagine it would ever be a problem and just ignore what I am saying. But if you didn't list it in your works cited, since you're supposed to cite all sources that you consult in writing your paper, some instructors might view it as plagiarism since you are technically using someone else's reading and interpretation to help you write the paper without crediting them. It's extremely unlikely that it would ever come up, but I have seen people fail courses over this sort of thing, so I thought I would mention it.

    Again, please don't take this as a comment on the ethics of what you're doing, it's not. This is just my advice from a practical standpoint. And I realize that you didn't ask for my advice, so of course feel free to ignore it.

    ETA: Sorry, more comments popped up while I was typing, so I didn't see your comment to drop it. So again, feel free to ignore me.
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  • lesalyriclesalyric member
    Fifth Anniversary 500 Comments
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:81b99a15-1dc3-4b5c-b051-22a990a585d6">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I swear that I have no idea who that person is and it's not me. .
    Posted by nickandmerritt[/QUOTE]

    This made me laugh. Poor Merrit, you knew 90% of those reading were thinking "that's totally her AE." :)
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  • dtay1986dtay1986 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:a10d7e51-ab9d-436f-9c24-932b2f61c305">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : This. When I became FB friends with some girls on here, I realized one of the girls is good friends with my old assistant's best friend. The same assistant I came on here and complained about and made some not so nice remarks about. I also mentioned giving her a really poor review. If that had somehow come to light while I was still with my old company, I would have been in BIG trouble.
    Posted by lesalyric[/QUOTE]
    This.

    I had many profs that would compare essays with students who were friends in their class. They take these things pretty seriously.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:fd959801-4d4e-496c-a890-3a2c1ad7b13b">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : This made me laugh. Poor Merrit, you knew 90% of those reading were thinking "that's totally her AE." :)
    Posted by lesalyric[/QUOTE]

    Right? Holy crap. I might be kind of an a-hole sometimes, but I'm not going to start personally attacking and threatening people.
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  • dtay1986dtay1986 member
    10 Comments
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:c84618c6-25b2-4b3e-a4fe-08b0f2e35258">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Right? Holy crap. I might be kind of an a-hole sometimes, but I'm not going to start personally attacking and threatening people.
    Posted by nickandmerritt[/QUOTE]
    I hope you're not implying that I'm threatening anyone. I have done no such thing.
  • lesalyriclesalyric member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:c84618c6-25b2-4b3e-a4fe-08b0f2e35258">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Right? Holy crap. I might be kind of an a-hole sometimes, but I'm not going to start personally attacking and threatening people.
    Posted by nickandmerritt[/QUOTE]

    I'll admit I kind of thought it might be in the beginning but then it didn't seem like you so much.

    Dtay - I can see how your flame could be construed as a little threatening. The tone when you said something similiar to "it wouldn't be that hard to find your name." was a little un-nerving. But, it is true this a public forum and true that we need to watch what we say. Calling Nat out on the married man thing, totally not cool. Lots of girls admitted to that and that was a catty attack.
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  • dtay1986dtay1986 member
    10 Comments
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:04b2a678-b6b7-484c-a410-f27343cae19a">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'll admit I kind of thought it might be in the beginning but then it didn't seem like you so much. Dtay - I can see how your flame could be construed as a little threatening. The tone when you said something similiar to "it wouldn't be that hard to find your name." was a little un-nerving. But, it is true this a public forum and true that we need to watch what we say. Calling Nat out on the married man thing, totally not cool. Lots of girls admitted to that and that was a catty attack.
    Posted by lesalyric[/QUOTE]
    I'm not threatening anyone. If you post personal info about yourself, you make it easier for someone to be able to find your name, etc. Get it?

    I guess I need to dumb down what I'm trying to say. I didn't call her out for sleeping with a married man. I called her out for posting about it and saying her husband will never know. Yet, she posted it in a public forum.

    Maybe I'm just a paranoid person. But, I wouldn't post things on a DFW board that I wouldn't want my husband to know.
  • courtski2004courtski2004 member
    Seventh Anniversary 1000 Comments 25 Love Its Name Dropper
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:ce2c562e-2153-49c4-aae1-b7767a18d519">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I hope you're not implying that I'm threatening anyone. I have done no such thing.
    Posted by dtay1986[/QUOTE]

    No, you've just barged on like the forum police calling people out and personally attacking Natalie. Whether or not you were just 'pointing something out' or not, it was a pretty low and unncessesary blow. Rude.

    ::calling Captain Save-a-Newb::
  • dtay1986dtay1986 member
    10 Comments
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:ed4b9a2e-af46-46e7-8024-a46c8be2baaa">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : No, you've just barged on like the forum police calling people out and personally attacking Natalie. Whether or not you were just 'pointing something out' or not, it was a pretty low and unncessesary blow. Rude. ::calling Captain Save-a-Newb::
    Posted by courtski2004[/QUOTE]
    This thread is for flames,is it not?

    Please show me where I personally attacked someone. An individual states they're cheating, I state they're cheating. How is that an attack?
  • courtski2004courtski2004 member
    Seventh Anniversary 1000 Comments 25 Love Its Name Dropper
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:484ce799-e213-4926-b897-c89b863b72aa">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : This thread is for flames,is it not? Please show me where I personally attacked someone. An individual states they're cheating, I state they're cheating. How is that an attack?
    Posted by dtay1986[/QUOTE]

    Well there were other girls who admitted things that were similar, but you only called Natalie out after you informed her that this is a public forum--something that I am certain that she is aware of. I just didn't read into her post to conclude that she was cheating. It is a book, he is reading it and sharing his understanding of it. She is writing her own paper, if her husband understands the purpose and that she is writing said paper and using his intellectual property, then BFD.
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  • lesalyriclesalyric member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:c03a76d5-1bf4-4019-91c6-469f86b641da">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'm not threatening anyone. If you post personal info about yourself, you make it easier for someone to be able to find your name, etc. Get it? I guess I need to dumb down what I'm trying to say. I didn't call her out for sleeping with a married man. I called her out for posting about it and saying her husband will never know. Yet, she posted it in a public forum. Maybe I'm just a paranoid person. But, I wouldn't post things on a DFW board that I wouldn't want my husband to know.
    Posted by dtay1986[/QUOTE]

    You don't need to dumb down anything, thanks. I totally got the semtiment of your post as evidenced by my previous post in which I agreed with your point.

    Rather, I disagreed with the fact that out of all the things you could have posted to prove your point you chose that example. I thought it was low to bring that up since it was said over a week ago and obviously not something that someone would want brought up again and again. Judging by the tone of your replies you chose what you knew would draw the most reaction rather than something innocuous.

    ETA: And now I am bickering on the internet. Glass houses on my part I suppose.
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  • edited December 2011
    I've realized that it's time. 

    Goodbye everyone, and happy planning!  Thank you all for your support and encouragement throughout my planning and after.  I couldn't have done it without you ladies!   I hope that I was able to help you all in some way as well.

    I'm on FB if anyone wants to keep in touch that I am not already friends with just send me a PM and I will check them later and add you.



  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:e5e64f39-748f-4c0e-83b9-6ecea2901f84">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]I've realized that it's time.  Goodbye everyone, and happy planning!  Thank you all for your support and encouragement throughout my planning and after.  I couldn't have done it without you ladies!   I hope that I was able to help you all in some way as well. I'm on FB if anyone wants to keep in touch that I am not already friends with just send me a PM and I will check them later and add you.
    Posted by Tiffany618[/QUOTE]

    <div>
    </div><div>Really???????</div><div>
    </div><div>We'll miss you!!! <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cry.gif" border="0" alt="Cry" title="Cry" /></div><div>
    </div><div>Is this part of April Fool's Day? </div>
  • dtay1986dtay1986 member
    10 Comments
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:dbcacfae-59e9-4eac-88cb-2dcc4d7ce79b">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : You don't need to dumb down anything, thanks. I totally got the semtiment of your post as evidenced by my previous post in which I agreed with your point. Rather, I disagreed with the fact that out of all the things you could have posted to prove your point you chose that example. I thought it was low to bring that up since it was said over a week ago and obviously not something that someone would want brought up again and again. Judging by the tone of your replies you chose what you knew would draw the most reaction rather than something innocuous. ETA: And now I am bickering on the internet. Glass houses on my part I suppose.
    Posted by lesalyric[/QUOTE]
    Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. You may find my comment low, but the fact that you say someone wouldn't want it brought up again and again yet they posted it for all to read on this forum, I feel just backs up my initial argument.

    Just to be clear, I'm not judging her for her actions. But, I was shocked to read that comment followed by "my husband will never find out."  Like I said, I guess people don't realize how malicious some can be.
  • lesalyriclesalyric member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:23a9453a-2903-43fc-acbe-b6fb19b51bba">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree<strong>.</strong> Posted by dtay1986[/QUOTE]

    Sounds good. Let's drop it.
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  • MissAngelMissAngel member
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    edited December 2011
    I think I might just lurk from now on and never post anything helpful, but only come on FFF to pick people apart for the sole reason of stirring things up...

    Sometimes even things pointed out are obvious.  I obviously know this is a public forum and I wouldn't post anything that I would worry too much about because people do "accidentally" come across it.  Hello, It's the internet.
  • juliebug1997juliebug1997 member
    5000 Comments Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:e5e64f39-748f-4c0e-83b9-6ecea2901f84">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]I've realized that it's time.  Goodbye everyone, and happy planning!  Thank you all for your support and encouragement throughout my planning and after.  I couldn't have done it without you ladies!   I hope that I was able to help you all in some way as well. I'm on FB if anyone wants to keep in touch that I am not already friends with just send me a PM and I will check them later and add you.
    Posted by Tiffany618[/QUOTE]
    I was actually thinking this when all this started.  I think I'll wait a couple of weeks though because there are some weddings I want to see. 
  • edited December 2011
    Tiffany, please say that's an April Fool's joke! You have to stay until my October wedding!
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  • fallbride1109fallbride1109 member
    5000 Comments Fifth Anniversary 5 Love Its Name Dropper
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local Wedding BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:637ac250-43cf-487c-9a02-3bdc85356c41">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I was actually thinking this when all this started.  I think I'll wait a couple of weeks though because there are some weddings I want to see. 
    Posted by juliebug1997[/QUOTE]

    Ditto.
  • edited December 2011
    PFFFFT.  I already told ya Stephie - April 2012 :(   Y'all have to hold out for me ;(
  • rcpm44rcpm44 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:e5e64f39-748f-4c0e-83b9-6ecea2901f84">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]I've realized that it's time.  Goodbye everyone, and happy planning!  Thank you all for your support and encouragement throughout my planning and after.  I couldn't have done it without you ladies!   I hope that I was able to help you all in some way as well. I'm on FB if anyone wants to keep in touch that I am not already friends with just send me a PM and I will check them later and add you.
    Posted by Tiffany618[/QUOTE]

    I've been think this too. That's sort of why I've been slowly becoming more of a lurker then a poster. I'm just done with people taking silly little nothing comments too seriously. Alas, it is what it is.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_texas-dallas-ft-worth_fff-53?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:102Discussion:675a2187-b722-45af-b292-03b58d34fb27Post:fb296226-4b31-47e0-972e-b616d3e6633f">Re: FFF</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I've been think this too. That's sort of why I've been slowly becoming more of a lurker then a poster. I'm just done with people taking silly little nothing comments too seriously. Alas, it is what it is.
    Posted by rcpm44[/QUOTE]

    Really? Y'all are going to let N&M & a newb run you off? This makes me sad. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-frown.gif" border="0" alt="Frown" title="Frown" />
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