"Normal" hair comment...

peachykeen26

Is this really still going on?

//threadjack

Am I a hilibilly for being raised in Georgia?

Good thing I got out of there, huh?

paigejessica

What the hell. Gone for a day and things just explode around here. I only read up to page four so forgive me if this thread is on a completely different topic now.

I'm not at all surprised at the people who thought me being offended by the normal hair comment was dumb. And I'm not surprised at the people saying "why is it all about race." I've been hearing it all my life and only white people seem to say it and not recognize the world isn't so rosy for everyone else...white privilege anyone? Huh, what's that? Look it up.

It's about race in my opinion because the little girl in the hair thread is of mixed race. Her hair is more similar to black people so needs to be taken care of with that in mind. When I posted I was offended about the normal hair comment I didn't mean that that poster had done so maliciously. And reading nuances online is impossible. It was about an ingrained good hair/bad hair way of thinking that has existed in this country for hundreds of years. Her saying her little sister gets keratin treatments because her unmanageable kinky hair was too hard to work with was what I had to speak out about. No little girl should grow up thinking their hair is bad and only good when it's straighter. Of course if you haven't grown up getting your hair ripped out weekly because your mother has no idea what to do with nappy hair, being forced to get relaxers since you were four, being told your color and your hair was bad, and having activities revolve around what you can or can't do because if you hair gets wet all hell breaks loose, then no, you won't be able to understand anything I'm saying and have said and I'm just wasting my time.

There are a lot of immature, ignorant, and close minded people on this board. It's really sad and amusing how childish some of you are being.

CvilleClaire

To recap:
-Someone posted a comment.
-Some people said they found the comment offensive.
-The person apologized for the comment.

If we want this discussion to degenerate further, by all means, let's keep the comments coming.

chelseakopperud

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding Club BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:4f5c08ec-28ca-4c6b-bf9a-3d7ac32412b2">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]What the hell. Gone for a day and things just explode around here. I only read up to page four so forgive me if this thread is on a completely different topic now. I'm not at all surprised at the people who thought me being offended by the normal hair comment was dumb. And I'm not surprised at the people saying "why is it all about race." I've been hearing it all my life and only white people seem to say it and not recognize the world isn't so rosy for everyone else...white privilege anyone? Huh, what's that? Look it up. It's about race in my opinion because the little girl in the hair thread is of mixed race. Her hair is more similar to black people so needs to be taken care of with that in mind. When I posted I was offended about the normal hair comment I didn't mean that that poster had done so maliciously. And reading nuances online is impossible. It was about an ingrained good hair/bad hair way of thinking that has existed in this country for hundreds of years. Her saying her little sister gets keratin treatments because her unmanageable kinky hair was too hard to work with was what I had to speak out about. No little girl should grow up thinking their hair is bad and only good when it's straighter. Of course if you haven't grown up getting your hair ripped out weekly because your mother has no idea what to do with nappy hair, being forced to get relaxers since you were four, being told your color and your hair was bad, and having activities revolve around what you can or can't do because if you hair gets wet all hell breaks loose, then no, you won't be able to understand anything I'm saying and have said and I'm just wasting my time. There are a lot of immature, ignorant, and close minded people on this board. It's really sad and amusing how childish some of you are being.
Posted by paigejessica[/QUOTE]

Just for the record..... I think your hair is gorgeous.

aor9487

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:4f5c08ec-28ca-4c6b-bf9a-3d7ac32412b2">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]What the hell. Gone for a day and things just explode around here. I only read up to page four so forgive me if this thread is on a completely different topic now. I'm not at all surprised at the people who thought me being offended by the normal hair comment was dumb. And I'm not surprised at the people saying "why is it all about race." I've been hearing it all my life and only white people seem to say it and not recognize the world isn't so rosy for everyone else...white privilege anyone? Huh, what's that? Look it up. It's about race in my opinion because the little girl in the hair thread is of mixed race. Her hair is more similar to black people so needs to be taken care of with that in mind. When I posted I was offended about the normal hair comment I didn't mean that that poster had done so maliciously. And reading nuances online is impossible. It was about an ingrained good hair/bad hair way of thinking that has existed in this country for hundreds of years. Her saying her little sister gets keratin treatments because her unmanageable kinky hair was too hard to work with was what I had to speak out about. No little girl should grow up thinking their hair is bad and only good when it's straighter. Of course if you haven't grown up getting your hair ripped out weekly because your mother has no idea what to do with nappy hair, being forced to get relaxers since you were four, being told your color and your hair was bad, and having activities revolve around what you can or can't do because if you hair gets wet all hell breaks loose, then no, you won't be able to understand anything I'm saying and have said and I'm just wasting my time. There are a lot of immature, ignorant, and close minded people on this board. It's really sad and amusing how childish some of you are being.
Posted by paigejessica[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Well said, paige. It breaks mine and FI's hearts when we hear our daughter say that she wants beautiful hair the color of barbie or asks why she can't have lighter skin. We tell her everyday how beautiful she is but now that she's 4 she's starting to notice differences and I dunno, I don't mean to ramble but it really hurts that the other kids point out her differences like they're a bad thing, when they're what makes her so unique and beautiful. 

</div>

chelseakopperud

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding Club BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:8f0fc6c0-6a41-4829-8934-88abe63e0601">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: "Normal" hair comment... : Well said, paige. It breaks mine and FI's hearts when we hear our daughter say that she wants beautiful hair the color of barbie or asks why she can't have lighter skin. We tell her everyday how beautiful she is but now that she's 4 she's starting to notice differences and I dunno, I don't mean to ramble but it really hurts that the other kids point out her differences like they're a bad thing, when they're what makes her so unique and beautiful. 
Posted by aor9487[/QUOTE]

Kids will point out differences no matter what the differences are. It isnt a "race issue"... its kids being kids. Kids are mean... end of story.

Elizabeth80

Completely agree.

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding Club BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:4f5c08ec-28ca-4c6b-bf9a-3d7ac32412b2">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]What the hell. Gone for a day and things just explode around here. I only read up to page four so forgive me if this thread is on a completely different topic now. I'm not at all surprised at the people who thought me being offended by the normal hair comment was dumb. And I'm not surprised at the people saying "why is it all about race." I've been hearing it all my life and only white people seem to say it and not recognize the world isn't so rosy for everyone else...white privilege anyone? Huh, what's that? Look it up. It's about race in my opinion because the little girl in the hair thread is of mixed race. Her hair is more similar to black people so needs to be taken care of with that in mind. When I posted I was offended about the normal hair comment I didn't mean that that poster had done so maliciously. And reading nuances online is impossible. It was about an ingrained good hair/bad hair way of thinking that has existed in this country for hundreds of years. Her saying her little sister gets keratin treatments because her unmanageable kinky hair was too hard to work with was what I had to speak out about. No little girl should grow up thinking their hair is bad and only good when it's straighter. Of course if you haven't grown up getting your hair ripped out weekly because your mother has no idea what to do with nappy hair, being forced to get relaxers since you were four, being told your color and your hair was bad, and having activities revolve around what you can or can't do because if you hair gets wet all hell breaks loose, then no, you won't be able to understand anything I'm saying and have said and I'm just wasting my time. There are a lot of immature, ignorant, and close minded people on this board. It's really sad and amusing how childish some of you are being.
Posted by paigejessica[/QUOTE]

midgetthemighty

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding Club BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:c0e9a97c-d9ab-4034-8682-0c96d020cd0f">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: "Normal" hair comment... : Kids will point out differences no matter what the differences are. It isnt a "race issue"... its kids being kids. Kids are mean... end of story.
Posted by chelseakopperud[/QUOTE]

Exactly. And I'm not just agreeing with this because we're both white. It's true.

kelsey+brandon

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:c0e9a97c-d9ab-4034-8682-0c96d020cd0f">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: "Normal" hair comment... : Kids will point out differences no matter what the differences are. It isnt a "race issue"... its kids being kids. Kids are mean... end of story.
Posted by chelseakopperud[/QUOTE]

<div>I don't know if it's because kids are mean though. I think they're just learning and taking everything in. When my brother was younger he saw someone that had dyed their hair a super bright color red and pointed him out and asked my mom about it. He was 3, he certainly wasn't doing it to be mean. Kids are like sponges and I think it's the answer's they're given that develops their views on things. If as a parent, teacher, role model you just explain to children that everyone's different and that's what makes the world a wonderful place, they'll {hopefully} accept that. </div>

aor9487

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:c0e9a97c-d9ab-4034-8682-0c96d020cd0f">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: "Normal" hair comment... : Kids will point out differences no matter what the differences are. It isnt a "race issue"... its kids being kids. Kids are mean... end of story.
Posted by chelseakopperud[/QUOTE]

<div>I didn't mean it as a race issue. I was just agreeing with some of the points that paige made in her post. She just doesn't understand why she's the only mixed child in her preschool class so she notices that she's a bit different and because she can't verbally express her feelings that well, it gets bottled up inside. </div>

chelseakopperud

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding Club BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:44ff9a21-a152-4ff7-89cb-c5ff9b9ae68b">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: "Normal" hair comment... : I don't know if it's because kids are mean though. I think they're just learning and taking everything in. When my brother was younger he saw someone that had dyed their hair a super bright color red and pointed him out and asked my mom about it. He was 3, he certainly wasn't doing it to be mean. Kids are like sponges and I think it's the answer's they're given that develops their views on things. If as a parent, teacher, role model you just explain to children that everyone's different and that's what makes the world a wonderful place, they'll {hopefully} accept that. 
Posted by kelsey+brandon[/QUOTE]

Oh you are right.... thank you. Carter will see someone that is different from him and ask me about it... you are right, he is learning. But once kids get to be school-aged, they definately pick on each other for being different... I guess that is what I meant.

Danidawn20

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:c6c5dfc7-5eb0-4d0e-bb4f-38cb76bb674d">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: "Normal" hair comment... : Oh you are right.... thank you. Carter will see someone that is different from him and ask me about it... you are right, he is learning. But once kids get to be school-aged, they definately pick on each other for being different... I guess that is what I meant.
Posted by chelseakopperud[/QUOTE]
 Chelsea, I agree that kids are learning at younger ages and do tend to get meaner as they enter school. In fact,  kids have an "egocentric" view until they are about 12 or 13. It is hard for them to understand other peoples points of views and differences. That starts at around 6/7, when the start school. In one of my classes last year, we learned kids will first point out differences to learn, then once they learn, they point out differences for attention. (so a kid being mean,knows they are mean, they just want attention) <div>Done with my teaching stuff for the day.</div>

Megbo2012

Depends on the age, for sure. I wanted curly hair so badly when I was little. I wanted to be taller. I wanted siblings. Everything I didn't have, I wanted. Just like adults. Someone has stick straigh hair and they'd kill for curls, whilst a curly haired person wants straight hair. It's grass is always greener syndrome. For the record, I grew up in a town that was probably 95% white. My college is extremely diverse and I have friends who are Indian, Portuguese, , white, Haitian, black, whatever. I'm also on my schools track team which is obviously diverse. Oh and I'm kind of ethnically diverse myself. My aunt who was not born in this country gifted me two gorgeous black baby dolls when I was three and I loved them to pieces. Sasha and Peter were their names. They were my favorite and only dolls.

kelsey+brandon

I definitely agree that kids can be mean...middle school age is the WORST. I just meant that kids that are younger don't point out differences to be mean. It's just their way of figuring out the world. I think as long as they point out the difference and have someone else say that yes, everyone is different, but that's what makes you different and unique and special, then everyone will learn that what makes us different is what makes us beautiful. 

Danidawn20

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:3b497e9d-761c-40e2-a068-7da318407ffa">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]I definitely agree that kids can be mean...middle school age is the WORST. I just meant that kids that are younger don't point out differences to be mean. It's just their way of figuring out the world. I think as long as they point out the difference and have someone else say that yes, everyone is different, but that's what makes you different and unique and special, then everyone will learn that what makes us different is what makes us beautiful. 
Posted by kelsey+brandon[/QUOTE]
 <div>Like this! :)</div>

chelseakopperud

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_june-2012-weddings_normal-hair-comment?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding Club BoardsForum:3ae4d68d-f10a-4dec-8810-da13c14a7b86Discussion:4942b81b-b99a-45f6-9109-cb8fab25289dPost:3b497e9d-761c-40e2-a068-7da318407ffa">Re: "Normal" hair comment...</a>:
[QUOTE]I definitely agree that kids can be mean...middle school age is the WORST. I just meant that kids that are younger don't point out differences to be mean. It's just their way of figuring out the world. I think as long as they point out the difference and have someone else say that yes, everyone is different, but that's what makes you different and unique and special, then everyone will learn that what makes us different is what makes us beautiful. 
Posted by kelsey+brandon[/QUOTE]

I couldnt agree more!