In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:03c00b08-c2b4-4574-8845-ab514559c7fa">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Oh, I'm sorry that life isn't fair for you. Posted by AllAboutTheBenjamin[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry that it isn't fair for me, too.
Really, I have zero problem with government assistance for people who are doing what they can for their families and who are using the system as it is meant to be used.
However, 22 year old single mom working FT with minimal bills (she admits to living rent free, not having any childcare, only has her phone bill, etc.) who admits to partying 3-4 nights per week, having unprotected sex, etc. that "just likes the free money" that comes with being on government aid... I have issues with that. But I also think she's a horrible mom, so there's that too.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:db809f44-a992-432e-b598-6e6cb4a76534">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I'm not saying that having a purse is abusing the system. If I were in that situation I wouldn't keep things like that. I'd do whatever it took to get money for rent, groceries or whatever things I needed. <strong>It's just not OK for someone to have something of value like that and use food stamps.</strong> Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
<div>Wow. Seriously? Because you are on welfare you can't have anything with value?</div><div> </div><div>You are an idiot. I judge you. </div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:db809f44-a992-432e-b598-6e6cb4a76534">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I'm not saying that having a purse is abusing the system. If I were in that situation I wouldn't keep things like that. I'd do whatever it took to get money for rent, groceries or whatever things I needed. It's just not OK for someone to have something of value like that and use food stamps. Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
The thing is though, I live in a small town. I wouldn't even know where to sell a purse that would get a decent profit off of it. Maybe $20 from a random at a yard sale.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:f9ac78ef-f91d-4c25-b660-89181e127084">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Hahaha it's funny you say that, because I don't like it either. I think I just used it because that was the caption on the photo. I'm not saying we shouldn't give people gifts for Christmas (I said I'm glad I gave clothes, rather than toys). My issue is bragging about how spoiled your kids/you are, and telling all 600 of your FB friends. Not everyone is in the position to give thousands of dollars worth of gifts, or maybe people just don't want to. No one should ever EXPECT gifts either, but when I see stuff like that, it just puts a bad taste in my mouth. Posted by yaga13[/QUOTE]
So like, if one is in a position to give their kids an impressive Christmas worth thousands of dollars, they shouldn't be proud or excited about it? Because if I could get my (someday) kids a bunch of killer swag for Christmas I'd be thrilled. Really.
I get that you're annoyed with the whole AW thing but really, who cares.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:4243b617-53d4-4af3-9b76-8ea26e7a057a">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I never said selling the purse would get you off food stamps. Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
<div>So your argument really is that poor people don't deserve to have any nice things? Special.</div><div> </div><div>I mean yes, I agree that I don't want to fund someone who's making no effort to get herself out of poverty, so if you've got the whole Louis Vuitton store at home then maybe sell some, but one purse? I'm not so cold hearted as to deny you a purse.</div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:549faf71-a1fd-4b91-88a9-e1cabc0fe224">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : The thing is though, I live in a small town. I wouldn't even know where to sell a purse that would get a decent profit off of it. Maybe $20 from a random at a yard sale. Posted by whitsy[/QUOTE]
You make a valid point. What I'm trying to say is that if there's anything you can do to help your situation you should do it. I live in an area where you could sell something like that and make a decent profit. Of course every situation varies.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:db809f44-a992-432e-b598-6e6cb4a76534">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I'm not saying that having a purse is abusing the system. If I were in that situation I wouldn't keep things like that. I'd do whatever it took to get money for rent, groceries or whatever things I needed. <strong>It's just not OK for someone to have something of value like that and use food stamps. </strong>Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
Oh, come on. That's just a stupid thing to say. So poor people don't deserve nice things? What if it was a gift? Should they sell that nice purse or name-brand pair of jeans they got as a Christmas gift just because they are on food stamps?
H and I are pretty poor and could probably qualify for assistance. Every nice thing we have, has been a gift. If someone told me we needed to sell everything in order to have more money in the bank, I'll laugh in their face. Or tell them to fvck off.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:dd796964-8ff8-418a-bffe-244e1e831279">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Oh Midge. I <3 you. :) Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]
<3 back!
The best part is that it was FI's idea when we joined accounts. I had them before too, just a different "set" of them.
Ilovetorobot is being ridiculous. My BFF is on food stamps. She has some nice things because they were gifts. Get off your high horse.
I think the argument that poor people shouldn't have nice things is just as ridiculous as if someone were to say that really rich people should never bargain shop.
I really hate when people say things about money coming out of their paycheck to pay for someone to get their nails done or buy an expensive handbag. It's not like they direct deposit deductions from your check into someone elses who abuses the system.
Money will always be taken out of our paychecks, get over it. Or join the mafia.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:da2d33e8-2aeb-474d-a5e3-f12525f8fdac">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I'm sorry that it isn't fair for me, too. Really, I have zero problem with government assistance for people who are doing what they can for their families and who are using the system as it is meant to be used. However, 22 year old single mom working FT with minimal bills (she admits to living rent free, not having any childcare, only has her phone bill, etc.) who admits to partying 3-4 nights per week, having unprotected sex, etc. that "just likes the free money" that comes with being on government aid... I have issues with that. But I also think she's a horrible mom, so there's that too. Posted by KellyBrian2013[/QUOTE]
I feel like the problem here though isn't the system, it's that this particular person is a moron. That's not the system's fault, you know? And also, the existence of this particular moron doesn't mean anyone should judge <em>everyone else on public assistance</em> because one person is a moron. That's what we're all having issues with. Are some people scam artists? Sure. Is everyone with a halfway decent car or a Coach bag who is also on public assistance a scam artist? Absolutely not.
Not for nothing, even selling something substantial like a car or a house is only a temporary solution, and puts you in a worse-off position than you would've been in if you'd gone on public assistance before selling the house/car (since you'll not only be broke, you'll be broke and homeless and unable to transport yourself to a job), which means you'll probably spend more time on assistance to get back to where you were. Frankly, I'd rather the government pays for just your food stamps, instead of making you sell your house or car, then paying for your food stamps, your public transportation voucher, and your housing voucher three months down the road, KWIM?
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:cd569902-3dd2-48f1-986c-e5d2bf60b708">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : You make a valid point. <strong>What I'm trying to say is that if there's anything you can do to help your situation you should do it.</strong> I live in an area where you could sell something like that and make a decent profit. Of course every situation varies. Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, but I also think, it's a sad world if we think people who are on assistance should be denied maybe one nice thing in their life. That could be one thing that she seriously has pride in, we all have that one thing we couldn't stand to lose. And selling it might bring her $20 to help pay the rent, but then it's gone, she doesn't have the one thing she cherished, and her situation still sucks. I just think it lacks empathy to feel this way.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:ea24f969-3c0c-4d7a-918f-2ee8eef16e36">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : <3 back! The best part is that it was FI's idea when we joined accounts. I had them before too, just a different "set" of them. Ilovetorobot is being ridiculous. My BFF is on food stamps. She has some nice things because they were gifts. Get off your high horse. Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]
My BF's H was pretty crestfallen after he discovered that she picked out a Hello Kitty debit card for their joint account...and that he had to have a Hello Kitty debit card, too.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:a9a0052a-bfb9-4e27-87a3-0ad3fec381fe">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : H and I are pretty poor and could probably qualify for assistance. Every nice thing we have, has been a gift. If someone told me we needed to sell everything in order to have more money in the bank, I'll laugh in their face. Or tell them to fvck off. Posted by Seshat411[/QUOTE]
<div>This is how we are too. We are on a tight budget right now. I actually have some old expensive purses. I'm not selling them. They were gifts. One was a gift from my grandma. She gave it to me on my birthday a few months before she died. I am never selling that. </div><div> </div><div>I'll admit to selling other stuff I didn't need anymore but I'm still keeping the nice things I want. </div>
I find it amusing that people get all huffy about "don't tell me how to spend MY money"...but then want to obsessively control how people they perceive as having less than them spend theirs.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:2f9fabda-919d-4d4a-b21e-ff34f37491e1">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Seriously. So the lady has a nice handbag. BFD. I know wealthy women who never pay retail. It's probably how they stay wealthy, so good for them. I am not going to judge anyone for a handbag unless it's made of <strong>human skin</strong> or something. Posted by EaglesBride2012[/QUOTE]
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:9196c3aa-bbb1-4d2c-8301-1942e060f96f">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]I find it amusing that people get all huffy about "don't tell me how to spend MY money"...but then want to obsessively control how people they perceive as having less than them spend theirs. Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]
For real.
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In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:a9a0052a-bfb9-4e27-87a3-0ad3fec381fe">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Oh, come on. That's just a stupid thing to say. So poor people don't deserve nice things? What if it was a gift? Should they sell that nice purse or name-brand pair of jeans they got as a Christmas gift just because they are on food stamps? H and I are pretty poor and could probably qualify for assistance. Every nice thing we have, has been a gift. If someone told me we needed to sell everything in order to have more money in the bank, I'll laugh in their face. Or tell them to fvck off. Posted by Seshat411[/QUOTE]
All of this right here.
If my H or I lost our job, we would be seriously in trouble. And we have a family to support. Quite frankly ILTR, the very last thing on my mind would be to start selling off my belongings - I like to think I'd be busier trying to find a job, making sure my daughters had food on the table, etc. And what business is it of yours how I got my Coach bag? Who are you to say that because I'm poor I can't have something. Fvck you and your ridiculous line of logic.
Like LVB, I also grew up with my parents receiving assitance - I think you're talking out of your ass, and maybe if you had ever experienced being poor - not on a tight budget - but <strong>POOR</strong>, your argument might hold water. But you just sound like a snot right right now.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:9196c3aa-bbb1-4d2c-8301-1942e060f96f">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]I find it amusing that people get all huffy about "don't tell me how to spend MY money"...but then want to obsessively control how people they perceive as having less than them spend theirs. Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]
I agree. I don't give a crap how people spend their money. As long as they aren't hitting me up for money to pay their rent, buy food, etc, they can buy an entire LV luggage set for all I care.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:f9c45510-9d87-4932-9032-f3b4d3e3d5ef">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : My BF's H was pretty crestfallen after he discovered that she picked out a Hello Kitty debit card for their joint account...and that he had to have a Hello Kitty debit card, too. Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]
Interesting. FI and I got to pick out different designs for our debit cards, same account. One of my best friends dated this jerk once who <strong><u>loved</u></strong> Hello Kitty. <strong>He</strong> had a Hello Kitty debit card amongst other things.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:6860e33f-59c8-49bd-9d7a-6d5a2edb9d47">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]I judge people who resort to name calling when they don't agree with someone. Demonstrates a. High level of intelligence. Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
ILovetoRobot - I understand the vibe you're going for, I think... For me it has to do with wants vs. needs. I feel that many people (probably including myself) have a real problem identifying what we want vs what we need. You don't need much. You need food, shelter, clothing to sheild you from the elements, medical care, etc. You do not need name brand anything, to see a movie, to drink a beer, have cable tv, etc. So I understand how you could see someone doing these things as overspending on wants when they are on assistance for needs.
I had an acquaintance who ate lunch at Noodles every single day and then complained that she could not afford health insurance. Make a PB&J, eat a banana and save yourself $5/day. It hurt my brain.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:6860e33f-59c8-49bd-9d7a-6d5a2edb9d47">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]I judge people who resort to name calling when they don't agree with someone. Demonstrates a. High level of intelligence. Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
At least they're saying it to your "face" and not calling you unworthy of nice things behind your back like you are. Besides, sometimes the truth hurts. I also recall most people saying you were <strong><em>being</em></strong> "insert mean name here" not that you were one.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:d565ea16-e2e6-4de7-8373-f68b1f215a62">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : If I'm reading this right AATB I don't think there was supposed to be a b. Posted by edielaura[/QUOTE]
But you can't have an a. without a b.. It kind of negates having an a. in the first place.
Re: I judge..
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Oh, I'm sorry that life isn't fair for you.
Posted by AllAboutTheBenjamin[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry that it isn't fair for me, too.
Really, I have zero problem with government assistance for people who are doing what they can for their families and who are using the system as it is meant to be used.
However, 22 year old single mom working FT with minimal bills (she admits to living rent free, not having any childcare, only has her phone bill, etc.) who admits to partying 3-4 nights per week, having unprotected sex, etc. that "just likes the free money" that comes with being on government aid... I have issues with that. But I also think she's a horrible mom, so there's that too.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I'm not saying that having a purse is abusing the system. If I were in that situation I wouldn't keep things like that. I'd do whatever it took to get money for rent, groceries or whatever things I needed. <strong>It's just not OK for someone to have something of value like that and use food stamps.</strong>
Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
<div>Wow. Seriously? Because you are on welfare you can't have anything with value?</div><div>
</div><div>You are an idiot. I judge you. </div>
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I'm not saying that having a purse is abusing the system. If I were in that situation I wouldn't keep things like that. I'd do whatever it took to get money for rent, groceries or whatever things I needed. It's just not OK for someone to have something of value like that and use food stamps.
Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
The thing is though, I live in a small town. I wouldn't even know where to sell a purse that would get a decent profit off of it. Maybe $20 from a random at a yard sale.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Hahaha it's funny you say that, because I don't like it either. I think I just used it because that was the caption on the photo. I'm not saying we shouldn't give people gifts for Christmas (I said I'm glad I gave clothes, rather than toys). My issue is bragging about how spoiled your kids/you are, and telling all 600 of your FB friends. Not everyone is in the position to give thousands of dollars worth of gifts, or maybe people just don't want to. No one should ever EXPECT gifts either, but when I see stuff like that, it just puts a bad taste in my mouth.
Posted by yaga13[/QUOTE]
So like, if one is in a position to give their kids an impressive Christmas worth thousands of dollars, they shouldn't be proud or excited about it? Because if I could get my (someday) kids a bunch of killer swag for Christmas I'd be thrilled. Really.
I get that you're annoyed with the whole AW thing but really, who cares.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I never said selling the purse would get you off food stamps.
Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
<div>So your argument really is that poor people don't deserve to have any nice things? Special.</div><div>
</div><div>I mean yes, I agree that I don't want to fund someone who's making no effort to get herself out of poverty, so if you've got the whole Louis Vuitton store at home then maybe sell some, but one purse? I'm not so cold hearted as to deny you a purse.</div>
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : The thing is though, I live in a small town. I wouldn't even know where to sell a purse that would get a decent profit off of it. Maybe $20 from a random at a yard sale.
Posted by whitsy[/QUOTE]
You make a valid point. What I'm trying to say is that if there's anything you can do to help your situation you should do it. I live in an area where you could sell something like that and make a decent profit. Of course every situation varies.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I'm not saying that having a purse is abusing the system. If I were in that situation I wouldn't keep things like that. I'd do whatever it took to get money for rent, groceries or whatever things I needed. <strong>It's just not OK for someone to have something of value like that and use food stamps.
</strong>Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
Oh, come on. That's just a stupid thing to say. So poor people don't deserve nice things? What if it was a gift? Should they sell that nice purse or name-brand pair of jeans they got as a Christmas gift just because they are on food stamps?
H and I are pretty poor and could probably qualify for assistance. Every nice thing we have, has been a gift. If someone told me we needed to sell everything in order to have more money in the bank, I'll laugh in their face. Or tell them to fvck off.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Oh Midge. I <3 you. :)
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]
<3 back!
The best part is that it was FI's idea when we joined accounts. I had them before too, just a different "set" of them.
Ilovetorobot is being ridiculous. My BFF is on food stamps. She has some nice things because they were gifts. Get off your high horse.
I really hate when people say things about money coming out of their paycheck to pay for someone to get their nails done or buy an expensive handbag. It's not like they direct deposit deductions from your check into someone elses who abuses the system.
Money will always be taken out of our paychecks, get over it. Or join the mafia.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : I'm sorry that it isn't fair for me, too. Really, I have zero problem with government assistance for people who are doing what they can for their families and who are using the system as it is meant to be used. However, 22 year old single mom working FT with minimal bills (she admits to living rent free, not having any childcare, only has her phone bill, etc.) who admits to partying 3-4 nights per week, having unprotected sex, etc. that "just likes the free money" that comes with being on government aid... I have issues with that. But I also think she's a horrible mom, so there's that too.
Posted by KellyBrian2013[/QUOTE]
I feel like the problem here though isn't the system, it's that this particular person is a moron. That's not the system's fault, you know? And also, the existence of this particular moron doesn't mean anyone should judge <em>everyone else on public assistance</em> because one person is a moron. That's what we're all having issues with. Are some people scam artists? Sure. Is everyone with a halfway decent car or a Coach bag who is also on public assistance a scam artist? Absolutely not.
Not for nothing, even selling something substantial like a car or a house is only a temporary solution, and puts you in a worse-off position than you would've been in if you'd gone on public assistance before selling the house/car (since you'll not only be broke, you'll be broke and homeless and unable to transport yourself to a job), which means you'll probably spend more time on assistance to get back to where you were. Frankly, I'd rather the government pays for just your food stamps, instead of making you sell your house or car, then paying for your food stamps, your public transportation voucher, and your housing voucher three months down the road, KWIM?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : You make a valid point. <strong>What I'm trying to say is that if there's anything you can do to help your situation you should do it.</strong> I live in an area where you could sell something like that and make a decent profit. Of course every situation varies.
Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, but I also think, it's a sad world if we think people who are on assistance should be denied maybe one nice thing in their life. That could be one thing that she seriously has pride in, we all have that one thing we couldn't stand to lose. And selling it might bring her $20 to help pay the rent, but then it's gone, she doesn't have the one thing she cherished, and her situation still sucks. I just think it lacks empathy to feel this way.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : <3 back! The best part is that it was FI's idea when we joined accounts. I had them before too, just a different "set" of them. Ilovetorobot is being ridiculous. My BFF is on food stamps. She has some nice things because they were gifts. Get off your high horse.
Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]
My BF's H was pretty crestfallen after he discovered that she picked out a Hello Kitty debit card for their joint account...and that he had to have a Hello Kitty debit card, too.
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That condom is awesome.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : H and I are pretty poor and could probably qualify for assistance. Every nice thing we have, has been a gift. If someone told me we needed to sell everything in order to have more money in the bank, I'll laugh in their face. Or tell them to fvck off.
Posted by Seshat411[/QUOTE]
<div>This is how we are too. We are on a tight budget right now. I actually have some old expensive purses. I'm not selling them. They were gifts. One was a gift from my grandma. She gave it to me on my birthday a few months before she died. I am never selling that. </div><div>
</div><div>I'll admit to selling other stuff I didn't need anymore but I'm still keeping the nice things I want. </div>
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Seriously. So the lady has a nice handbag. BFD. I know wealthy women who never pay retail. It's probably how they stay wealthy, so good for them. I am not going to judge anyone for a handbag unless it's made of <strong>human skin</strong> or something.
Posted by EaglesBride2012[/QUOTE]
How exotic. I MUST be the first to own one.
[QUOTE]I find it amusing that people get all huffy about "don't tell me how to spend MY money"...but then want to obsessively control how people they perceive as having less than them spend theirs.
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]
For real.
"Halloween may have loose women scantily clad...
But Christmas has a pregnant virgin.
Way cooler." - anna.oskar
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Oh, come on. That's just a stupid thing to say. So poor people don't deserve nice things? What if it was a gift? Should they sell that nice purse or name-brand pair of jeans they got as a Christmas gift just because they are on food stamps? H and I are pretty poor and could probably qualify for assistance. Every nice thing we have, has been a gift. If someone told me we needed to sell everything in order to have more money in the bank, I'll laugh in their face. Or tell them to fvck off.
Posted by Seshat411[/QUOTE]
All of this right here.
If my H or I lost our job, we would be seriously in trouble. And we have a family to support. Quite frankly ILTR, the very last thing on my mind would be to start selling off my belongings - I like to think I'd be busier trying to find a job, making sure my daughters had food on the table, etc. And what business is it of yours how I got my Coach bag? Who are you to say that because I'm poor I can't have something. Fvck you and your ridiculous line of logic.
Like LVB, I also grew up with my parents receiving assitance - I think you're talking out of your ass, and maybe if you had ever experienced being poor - not on a tight budget - but <strong>POOR</strong>, your argument might hold water. But you just sound like a snot right right now.
[QUOTE]I find it amusing that people get all huffy about "don't tell me how to spend MY money"...but then want to obsessively control how people they perceive as having less than them spend theirs.
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]
I agree. I don't give a crap how people spend their money. As long as they aren't hitting me up for money to pay their rent, buy food, etc, they can buy an entire LV luggage set for all I care.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : My BF's H was pretty crestfallen after he discovered that she picked out a Hello Kitty debit card for their joint account...and that he had to have a Hello Kitty debit card, too.
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]
Interesting. FI and I got to pick out different designs for our debit cards, same account. One of my best friends dated this jerk once who <strong><u>loved</u></strong> Hello Kitty. <strong>He</strong> had a Hello Kitty debit card amongst other things.
[QUOTE]I judge people who resort to name calling when they don't agree with someone. Demonstrates a. High level of intelligence.
Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
Jerk.
Also, is there a b?
So I understand how you could see someone doing these things as overspending on wants when they are on assistance for needs.
I had an acquaintance who ate lunch at Noodles every single day and then complained that she could not afford health insurance. Make a PB&J, eat a banana and save yourself $5/day. It hurt my brain.
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[QUOTE]I judge people who resort to name calling when they don't agree with someone. Demonstrates a. High level of intelligence.
Posted by ILoveToRobot[/QUOTE]
At least they're saying it to your "face" and not calling you unworthy of nice things behind your back like you are. Besides, sometimes the truth hurts. I also recall most people saying you were <strong><em>being</em></strong> "insert mean name here" not that you were one.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : If I'm reading this right AATB I don't think there was supposed to be a b.
Posted by edielaura[/QUOTE]
But you can't have an a. without a b.. It kind of negates having an a. in the first place.