EFF YOU!

[Deleted User]

wow, dude's got game.

mandapanda78

Customer is a jerk but maybe he was kidding and trying to inject levity.Who gives two shiits what he was trying to do?  It was an appalling thing to say.

Soon-to-be Mrs. Vogt

Wow, P2. Just wow. I'm feeling very stabby for you.I think your boss needs to pass on the account to a different company to deal with. Fat Dave and his ridiculously insensitive mouth aren't worth any amount of money.

bbyckes

wow... that's horrible. really horrible.

vallyhoo

Um actually when I was out of work and customers asked where I was, my stand-in DID tell them that I was out due to a serious illness in the family. People can become very close to clients in certain work environments so it isn't beyond the realm of possibility for a receptionist to tell a regular customer the news.

BecW2be

I think fffmaid is millimeters close to being knocked into the same disgusting pile of people in my head as Fat Dave and she needs to STFU really, really quickly. It's a company with obvious close customers, and P2 would have shared that info anyway, and there is NEVER a fuckingsituation suitable for that sort of joke. EVER. So, yeah. STFU with your defensive argument for a total scumbucket.

pumpkinpumpkin

1. Receptionist shoudl not be discussing your Fi's health issues with the customers. This is none of the customers buisness and makes the company look unproffessional and also makes it something that the people must feel compelled to comment on. Receptionist messed up big time her. 2. Customer is a jerk but maybe he was kidding and trying to inject levity. Honestly, Fat Dave was a jerk but that was private info he should never have known or been in a position to comment on. 1. I told the staff yesterday that it was okay if someone asked, it's a small town, and word gets out, and it's easier for others to talk about it than it is for me. I don't blame the receptionist one bit (as my OP suggested), not do I think it makes the company look unprofessional. But, you and I often have differing opinions.2. Customer IS a jerk. He was not kidding. I'm okay with him knowing, he's seriously commented on me becoming his wife in the past, especially because many colonies are looking for "new blood" to try to fight incest. If he was kidding, he wouldn't have phoned my boss to complain that I hung up.

gkb0910

Holy inappropriate, Batman!  I can't believe he said that.  I also think it's rude to (jokingly) ask if a person is in a good mood or bad mood today.  I'm glad you'll not have to deal with him again and I can only hope he gets what's coming to him-something terribly painful and unpleasant.

ffmaid

If I was your boss I would reassign the client and possibly fire the receptionist.

pumpkinpumpkin

I think your boss needs to pass on the account to a different company to deal with.You're absolutely right, in fact, my boss even made a comment about maybe ending our relationship with this client. I don't think the other account reps would mind either. I mean, they're good clients, but we have our products for sale in dealerships where he could continue to purchase our products but not have to deal with anyone here. The commission that myself, or any other rep would be out isn't enough to noticably make a difference.

vallyhoo

I don't see there is remote cause for firing the receptionist. So then the company could face a wrongful termination suit.In addition, what Fat Dave said, while incomprehensible to people with a brain... it was also sexual harassment. To talk to someone about 'becoming their wife' is beyond inappropriate.

lyndausvi

OMG --- who does that?  Who actually thinks that is funny?

kpeteley

What an awful person to have to deal with!  Vibes for your fiance-

pumpkinpumpkin

If I was your boss I would reassign the client and possibly fire the receptionist. 1. Thank God you're not my boss. I have a feeling you and I would clash horribly.2. Why should he fire her for something I said was okay, exactly? I know you can't spell, but can you read?? I told all my co-workers and bosses yesterday morning about Mark, I also said that because it's a small town everyone is going to be talking, and that it was okay to put rumours to rest if need-be, or confirm that Mark is in fact, sick. Maybe this scenario is a bit different, but I truly believe that she was trying to look out for me, especially with regards to this customer. I'm okay with it, if I'm okay with it, my boss is okay with it. GET OVER IT.

sarabellam

Complete threadjack here, but P^2, thanks for prompting me to learn something new today. I had never heard of a hutterite, and had to go look it up.

pumpkinpumpkin

I also think it's rude to (jokingly) ask if a person is in a good mood or bad mood today. I know what you mean, but I think every work place is different, every client is different, and my relationship with every client varies. Hutterites generally don't have a "filter". They're not socialized like the rest of us, they really don't know what is appropriate or not; however, they should know that joking about a death is NOT appropriate.

ring_pop

What an awful thing to say and awful human being. p2 I'm very sorry to hear about Mark - this is the first I heard about it as I was out of the office yesterday (observing a cancer clinic, actually). I hope that his care is in good hands and I'll keep you both in my thoughts.

pumpkinpumpkin

lol Sarah - I forget that Hutterites aren't that common in the US once you're out of North Dakota, and small areas of South Dakota and Western Minnesota. But they're all over Canada.

bbyckes

I had never heard of a hutterite, and had to go look it up. I did the same thing.

Bubbalub

For the love of Brian who the fuuck says stuff like that? I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. I am livid on your behalf.Also, for the ignorant, what is a hutterite? Is it like Amish or Menonite?

gkb0910

ffmaid-P2 said it's okay.  All the receptionist said was that it was cancer.  I don't think it's all that private and personal to mention that.  It's not like she got in depth about everything. P2-Thanks for following up about the joke about being in a good/bad mood.  I can see it not being rude based on your relationship with the client. I'm still amazed at how strong you are.  If you ever need to fall apart, we're here for you.  And as others mentioned, be sure you take care of yourself as well as Mark.

pumpkinpumpkin

I don't know what else to say, ffmaid. I guess it depends on your company, your profession, and your relationship with your customers and co-workers. Regardless of who made the statement, he was going to make the comment. This statement is not true: But that does not excuse the unproffessionalism of both you by telling the receptionist to spread your private woes and the receptionist to do so. Yah, I told our receptionist to just spread it out there, maybe she should answer the phone followed by, "oh, Jaime's fiance has cancer". I'd love to know what you do for a living and why you're such a stuck up snot.

georgia_bride09

I just assumed a Hutterite was the Canadian version of a Mennonite.

ffmaid

I'm sorry you find me to be a stuck up snot for keeping my private and proffessional lives seperate. Honestly even your coworkers do not need to know your FI has cancer unless they are part of your personal private social circle. It is none of their buisness. Yes it is a small town you live in but still it is Fi's buisness and the buisness of his medical proffessionals and his social circle. It is not your customers to know or deal with. P.s I know I am sounding harsh and I do not mean this is a mean way at all. P.P.S. I truly hope your FI gets great treatments and responds well to that great treatment and has the very best of outcomes.

ac_in_dc

I kind of want to deep fry Fat Dave right now to see if he crackles.

mynameskatie

FFmaid: In the past I worked in a sales office where it was a more relaxed atmosphere and clients considered themselves part of our "family". They would have been hurt if this kind of information wasn't passed on! Part of the reason they were our clients is because it wasn't a stuffy uber professional. Levels of professionalism are all based on the work environment you're in. Kinda seems like you can't get that past your closed mindset. Maybe you and Fat Dave can form an insensitive d-bags club.P2 I usually just lurk but I just wanted to mention I'm super sorry to hear about your situation. I hope that everything goes well with Mark's treatment and you guys get to go enjoy that vacation you deserve!

ac_in_dc

ffmaid, your advice isn't appropriate in this case. If you'd followed P2's work discussions in the past you'd remember that she, her customers & coworkers all go back a long way and have professional ties that veer into the personal. And even if you think it's true p2 doesn't need to hear that she's unprofessional right now.

pumpkinpumpkin

Bubba - they're kinda like a mix of amish and mennonite. But are really neither. Amish as they live in colonies, very religious, etc...and mennonite as in the strong German background. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HutteriteThere were 4 families that started a colony in Canada. Their last names were: Gross, Kleinsausser, Maendel, and Hofer. Today, those are still pretty well only the last names...

pumpkinpumpkin

ffmaid - how many people do you work with? Me? 9. Including the Janitors. NINE people. Yes, they need to know what's going on in my life. Not only do I spend about 45 hours/week with these people, I travel with them, socialize with them, and grew up with them. They need to know why I might be missing a lot of work, and why I'm crying in my office, and why I might need a shoulder to cry on.  Have you ever been to a small town? Things tend to work differently...

mandapanda78

See, this just adds an extra level of awful to it. This guy lives in a religious/spiritual community but still had the nads to say "hopefully it doesn't turn out well". Cause that's real Christian of you. Literally, between Fat Dave and ffmaid right now I am seeing spots.