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    [QUOTE]Sure, Blue, having a common language would make it easier for us all to get along. I believe that's the point of the whole Tower of Babel story in the Bible. However, the whole point of the thread the other night was talking about legislation. <u><strong>What are your ideas on legislation involving language?</strong></u> Anything that tries to mandate an official language would = more government intervention in our lives. If you don't think the government should have a role in mandating language, then why even complain about people not speaking English? I mean, I could go on and on about thinking that everyone in the United States should get a free puppy, but unless I have opinions on implementation of said puppy policy, I might as well not say anything.
    Posted by sarah0725[/QUOTE]

    I have already said that I dont think the government should tell any legal citizen what to do in their personal life.

    That includes mandating that police officers, hospital personnel, government agencies etc, require you to be bi-lingual to qualify for the job.

    I also do not think it is a bad thing for people to be bi-lingual.  My sister husband is first generation greek and her daughter will grow up speaking both.  But not because she has to.

    I do think English should be the "national language" just because for over 200 years it has been the most common language of its people and still is.  But only for the same purpose of having the national bird, or flag, or anthem.  For historical purposes.  I do not think a "mandate" of learning and speaking it has a place.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : Right, but I think it's being morphed into something a lot different then Bethrothed intended. I can't speak for her, but that's my impression anyway.  Kati was saying (or at least I got the impression that she was saying) that people left her because of cliques, only to become part of one, and I don't really see that to be the case.
    Posted by mag920[/QUOTE]

    Exactly. And IMO, it's like floating between a roomful of stoners and a roomful of jocks at a college party. It's different vibes, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy both.

    I'm also sick of the "SB is so pathetic" jabs because a bunch of E regs (whom people seem to like okay, if you believe the LFT thread) have been board hopping over there. Where's the rule that says E regs have to stay on E? Yeah, the whiny vents by newbs are annoying, but M&M, Betrothed, Cew, Bec, Kiki and a few others post over there to 1) correct false information and check 'zilla attitude and 2) just to have another place to post. Damn.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : That's not what I meant. I meant that you shouldn't use the "I'm hardly here anymore" line to get out of being a proactive part of what you'd like to change about this board, if you're only going to come here and complain a bunch about how you wished it would change.
    Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]


    THIS board, which is the one I've always hung out on, is NOT AFSB.  Nor is it the OLD AFSB.  They are two different boards.  I have no reason to solve it's problems, but I can be sad it's gone, much like I'm sad that my grocery store no longer sells apple fritters.  I can also comment that I'm sad my grocery store no longer sells apple fritters.  It doesn't mean that I have to go into the grocery store and bake the apple fritters for them.

    Your original post to me indicated I should solve the problems on AFSB.  If I'm not on E enough to make a difference, why should I change another board that IS NOT my regular board.

    I did not complain about the people on E.

    You know that.

    You're not stupid, even if you are playing the part right now.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : You know your dream is to live in Dodge City, KS in a trailer with my uncle so you can work at one of the two butcher plants that make up the entire town.  It's alright, you can admit it. 
    Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]


    No offense to your uncle.  <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : <strong> I made one post in this thread saying that I missed them.  Other posts included the ridiculousness of them complaining about cross board posting which really isn't me missing anyone. </strong>I'm pretty sure other people have said that some of the posters there aren't that bright as well.  <strong>Why, exactly, do I have to defend my opinion on this?</strong>  Why do I have to answer for what other people have said (since apparently my comments are the most recent in a long line of them)?  <strong>And,  more importantly, why do I have to do it in a FFF?</strong>
    Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

    - This is what I meant by <em>SB-related</em>

    - It is your choice to defend. Just as I am choosing to come back and defend my position now. I asked you no question in this last post. And your comments have stuck out more from being all clustered into FFF, and because you complain a lot about this board, so I'm probably primed to hear it from you.

    - Because we're always doing it wrong in FFF, so why not?



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  • you want english to be the official language for historical purposes? not for the "practicality" reasons you previously mentioned? are you high?
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    [QUOTE]Sure, Blue, having a common language would make it easier for us all to get along. I believe that's the point of the whole Tower of Babel story in the Bible. However, the whole point of the thread the other night was talking about legislation. What are your ideas on legislation involving language? Anything that tries to mandate an official language would = more government intervention in our lives. If you don't think the government should have a role in mandating language, then why even complain about people not speaking English? I mean, I could go on and on about thinking that everyone in the United States should get a free puppy, but unless I have opinions on implementation of said puppy policy, I might as well not say anything.
    Posted by sarah0725[/QUOTE]

    I was typing a long winded response but this is even better.

    I just don't understand why "they" have to assimilate to be like "us" to all get along.
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    Merymac - I think you're missing the point and misunderstanding what we're talking about here.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : I dunno Mag, to me, it looks like an obvious clique decided they wanted some "privacy" and moved their primary posting location to SB.  And then clearly stated that they wanted to be left alone.  That's my interpretation of what I've seen, which admittedly is only a few posts that have been linked somewhere. It's just sad, because I enjoyed talking with most of those knotties, and I thought they enjoyed the rest of E.  It's been clear for awhile that they enjoy each other MORE, but I'm kinda bummed that it seems like they're bailing.
    Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]

    Yep, this is exactly what I was saying, but you said it better than me.  But the "this is our new board, and we get to say who posts here" mentality irritates thefuck out of me, especially since the perpetrators continue to post here.  Either stay over on your new exclusive board or don't, ya know?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : No offense to your uncle. 
    Posted by goheels05[/QUOTE]

    LOL - actually he doesn't work at a plant - all the illegal immigrants do - he works at the laundry mat.  ;)  OH WAIT - he just moved to AZ.  I forgot.  Ha ha - you see how tight we are. 
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    [QUOTE]Mag and Heels - Betrothed and Cew both made a point to say that they moved to SB to get away from the cliques and drama of E and several other people made that the party line as well. <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_looks-familiar-here" rel="nofollow">http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_looks-familiar-here</a>
    Posted by danieliza1127[/QUOTE]

    I didn't say that I left to get away from the cliques. I said that I was tired of the accusations of cliques.

    <em>Yeah. It was more the accusatons that were driving me nuts. I would agree that Heels, Bec and I are cliquey, but I would never think of us as some sort of mean girls clique.</em>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : I dunno Mag, to me, it looks like an obvious clique decided they wanted some "privacy" and moved their primary posting location to SB.  And then clearly stated that they wanted to be left alone.  That's my interpretation of what I've seen, which admittedly is only a few posts that have been linked somewhere. It's just sad, because I enjoyed talking with most of those knotties, and I thought they enjoyed the rest of E.  It's been clear for awhile that they enjoy each other MORE, but I'm kinda bummed that it seems like they're bailing.
    Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]

    Why on earth would anyone who wanted privacy go to freakin SB to post? That makes no sense at all. I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, but I didn't bail. I got fucking sick and goddamned tired of stupid kid and invite posts. Look back over the past few weeks of posts on this board. There's tons of kid posts and then the inevitable "*head desk*", "read the FAQs!!!" and other comments that can be copied and pasted. Combined with the OB chatter and clique chatter, I stopped posting on TK at all. I also had a nightmarish week at work. When I came back, I saw people I like posting on SB, so I commented there. I checked Etiquette, saw the normal babies bullsh!t, and had nothing to comment on for a few days. There was no "migration" or "bailing", and it was pathetic for Dani to come over there asking about it. You're right; we can post whever thefuck we want to. So leave it at that.
  • the people who post on SB are the poor man's E anyways, so they are welcome to stay there.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : - This is what I meant by SB-related - It is your choice to defend. Just as I am choosing to come back and defend my position now. I asked you no question in this last post. And your comments have stuck out more from being all clustered into FFF, and because you complain a lot about this board, so I'm probably primed to hear it from you. - Because we're always doing it wrong in FFF, so why not?
    Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]


    I complain a lot about WHAT board? 

    I think you honestly have me confused with someone else.  I've read the posts on the new SB all of two times.    This thread is the second time I've commented on it.

    A few weeks ago, I commented on the fact that our FFF was filled with comments about SB.  That was a comment about FFF on THIS board, not about SB.

    I don't recall complaining about E at all in recent months.  Or, again, being here enough to be remembered as doing so.

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    [QUOTE]beatles, in this thread, she said exactly ONE time that she missed the regs from a different board. this began a conversation that included a few other people, like me and daff. if you have an issue with talking about the way things used to be, talk to me and daff as well.
    Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]
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    [QUOTE]beatles, in this thread, she said exactly ONE time that she missed the regs from a different board. this began a conversation that included a few other people, like me and daff. if you have an issue with talking about the way things used to be, talk to me and daff as well.<strong> btw, I think you're taking this way too personally. and I think it's just because you post on SB.</strong>
    Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

    I answered the first part of  this in my last post, but maybe I am taking it personally. I just tire of the generalizations, and I don't like myself or posters I like to be called morons because we post on a board in addition to E. You can't deny that there has been some judginess happening here because of people moving around. Why does it bother people so much? No one is doing it to hurt anyone. I don't see the point.



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  • Mag, I don't care if people post on every board.  I'm just sad to see some of them leave E, and I have a suspicion that's where this is headed.  It is what it is, and clearly I can't change that, but I can at least offer up my opinion on it.

    Andplusalso, what Dani said.  Some people really did say that they wanted to be away from the drama here.  I don't remember who, though. 

    It's cool though.  I'm going to be gone for a couple weeks, then moving, then starting a new job, so my knotting is going to be all sorts of disrupted for most of May and June, potentially.  Cry
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : I have already said that I dont think the government should tell any legal citizen what to do in their personal life.<strong> That includes mandating that police officers, hospital personnel, government agencies etc, require you to be bi-lingual to qualify for the job.</strong> I also do not think it is a bad thing for people to be bi-lingual.  My sister husband is first generation greek and her daughter will grow up speaking both.  But not because she has to. I do think English should be the "national language" just because for over 200 years it has been the most common language of its people and still is.  But only for the same purpose of having the national bird, or flag, or anthem.  For historical purposes.  I do not think a "mandate" of learning and speaking it has a place.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    The government does not mandate anything of the sort. For instance, FI is an RN in a major city with a large Spanish-speaking population, and yet, he was still hired somehow. A lot of these types of agencies are interested in bilingual employees because it is practical.

    If you're upset about not being qualified for a job because you're not multilingual, then you should get those qualifications. This is no different from improving your qualifications in any other sort of field. For instance, I want to teach art history at a major university, but I am not currently qualified. So I am in school, getting my Ph.D. so that I will be qualified.

    And what do you think would be the effects of a law declaring a "national language"? If you don't actually think the law should have a practical application, then why waste the time to pass it?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : Yep, this is exactly what I was saying, but you said it better than me.  But the "this is our new board, and we get to say who posts here" mentality irritates thefuck out of me, especially since the perpetrators continue to post here.  Either stay over on your new exclusive board or don't, ya know?
    Posted by Kati0105[/QUOTE]


    I have yet to see a single person over there say "you can't post here."  We requested that the Capri bullshit not be dragged over there, but that was the extent of it.
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  • I'm pathetic now?  Nice Bec.  Jesus, I was just asking why some of the regs where there and not here. I don't think that's pathetic.  Like I just said earlier though, post where ever you want.    I'm done with this conversation.  I stand by what I said a few posts back.

    Also, I don't even know why we're talking about this. Post where ever the frick you want.  Stop complaining that people talk about groups, cliques, and off-boards.  They all exist.  You know they do.  Some of you are on them.  Get over it.  Move on.


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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : I have already said that I dont think the government should tell any legal citizen what to do in their personal life. <strong>A lot of native Spanish speakers ARE legal citizens. Just because someone is Mexican and immigrated here doesn't mean they aren't legal or don't pay taxes.</strong> That includes mandating that police officers, hospital personnel, government agencies etc, require you to be bi-lingual to qualify for the job. <strong>If you need to be able to speak both languages to properly perform the job, you should be required to be bilingual. If the government wants bilingual police officers, how is that any different than the government wanting police officers who can complete training at a certain academy? Not everyone qualifies. Tough shiit. </strong>I also do not think it is a bad thing for people to be bi-lingual.  My sister husband is first generation greek and her daughter will grow up speaking both.  But not because she has to. I do think English should be the "national language" just because for over 200 years it has been the most common language of its people and still is.   But only for the same purpose of having the national bird, or flag, or anthem.  For historical purposes.  I do not think a "mandate" of learning and speaking it has a place. <strong>If we're talking historical purposes, we should remain without a national language. That was intentional by the lawmakers of our past (who were pretty much exclusively white English speakers).</strong>
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]
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    I want an apple fritter now. 

    I honestly wasn't flaming Moose.  I think (I hope!) you know that.   I wasn't around for the old AFSB.  I'm sure it was all kinds of awesome.

    What I was flaming was the phenomenon that Beatles and Ohwhynot described: old regs coming back for no other reason than to complain that their old boards are lame because they aren't on them anymore.  There's nothing wrong with missing what something used to be.  But insulting people because they aren't (gasp!) you?  C'mon.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : I have yet to see a single person over there say "you can't post here."  We requested that the Capri bullshit not be dragged over there, but that was the extent of it.
    Posted by betrothed123[/QUOTE]


    And see, that was MY original point in this thread.  It seems that people are more than happy to bring SB drama over here, but E drama is specifically requested to not be posted there.

    I don't care where you post.  I don't care why you post there.  No one does.  But you can't honestly think that you can tell people not to post whatever they want on that board.  Or this board.  Or any board.

    "You can take your etiquette and shove it!" ~misscarolb
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    [QUOTE]I'm pathetic now?  Nice Bec.  Jesus, I was just asking why some of the regs where there and not here. I don't think that's pathetic.  Like I just said earlier though, post where ever you want.    I'm done with this conversation.  I stand by what I said a few posts back. Also, I don't even know why we're talking about this. Post where ever the frick you want.  Stop complaining that people talk about groups, cliques, and off-boards.  They all exist.  You know they do.  Some of you are on them.  Get over it.  Move on.
    Posted by danieliza1127[/QUOTE]

    I didn't say you were pathetic. I said asking why we were all posting there instead of your board was pathetic. One action does not make an entire person pathetic.
  • I think going to SB and complaining about E, and continuing to post on E, is kinda like buying a season pass for the zoo even though you hate the smell.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : So because someone asked that drama be left on the board it originated on, that equates to a "we get to say who posts here" mentatlity?  That doesn't mesh with what I've picked up, but if that's what you're getting, than who am I to tell you that your thoughts are wrong?
    Posted by mag920[/QUOTE]

    How do you not find it hypocritical that the people who voiced the "leave the drama on E" sentiments are now contributing to FFF?  I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous. 

    And Beatles, I'm terribly sorry that you're sick of people talking about your not-at-all-secret offboard. 
  • On the E/SB conversation that I'm not participating in.... this is why I like LFT better. I don't know what's going on, and I like everybody who is yelling at each other, and it all makes me want to simultaneously rock in the corner and hug everyone.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-29?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:603b2f66-8619-4be5-bc12-ef6914c52c5aPost:914cd464-a463-43e8-a3f5-83d514423478">Re: FFF?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF? : I complain a lot about WHAT board?  I think you honestly have me confused with someone else.  I've read the posts on the new SB all of two times.    This thread is the second time I've commented on it. A few weeks ago, I commented on the fact that our FFF was filled with comments about SB.  That was a comment about FFF on THIS board, not about SB. I don't recall complaining about E at all in recent months.  Or, again, being here enough to be remembered as doing so.
    Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

    I recall several recent occasions where you come into threads and say something along the lines of "everyone wants to be first to congratulate each other on being snarky/telling off newbs," etc. Or you make statements that indicate you know how someone will respond because this board is SO predictable.

    I remember a few months ago, after the format change, someone said that you'd been doing an awful lot of sitting on your porch and whistling Dixie, lamenting about the old days. I guess that image has just stuck with me. I usually don't have anything against you personally, but it just got overwhelming in this thread.



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